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by sankum
17 Feb 2015 22:13
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013
Replies: 3967
Views: 202579

Re: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013

Thanks Indranilroy.

I just don't have the patience to go through the entire webcast
by sankum
17 Feb 2015 21:58
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 3963
Views: 228145

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

Rohitvats wrote Above does not makes sense. Battery - 4 x Launchers @ 3 missiles per launcher: 12 ready to fire missiles 4 x Batteries - 48 ready to fire missiles. Assuming 1 (ready)+3 reloads - 192 missiles. Similarly, 1 (ready)+2 reloads: 144 missiles. 160 number falls between the stools. For IA ...
by sankum
17 Feb 2015 16:53
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 3963
Views: 228145

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

Yes, based on news reports.

For IA it is 40 Akash sam per battery @4 battery/ regiment is 160 Akash sam per regiment.
by sankum
17 Feb 2015 13:21
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 3963
Views: 228145

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

125 nos Akash sam per squadron.

Total future order 24.5*125=3063 nos sam.
by sankum
15 Feb 2015 00:16
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: AMCA News and Discussions
Replies: 3315
Views: 504877

Re: AMCA News and Discussions

The non stealthy version external payload can be calculated @ 2*1200 litre ext.tanks (1T each)+2*1000kg JDAMs+ 2pods (2*200kg=400kg)+2*100Kg CCM+400 Kg for 8pylons=5000Kg.

MTOW is reported to be 24.2T in S Jha blog and maximum internal payload at 3T.
by sankum
14 Feb 2015 21:32
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA Tejas: News and Discussions
Replies: 3980
Views: 212826

Re: LCA Tejas: News and Discussions

My maximum estimate for NLCA mk2 is MTOW of 16T from ski jump of a aircraft carrier if emergency rating thrust of 12T can be provided by giving ede enhancement to GE414 engine. Empty weight 7T+ internal fuel 3.5T+ pilot/cannon ammo/chaff/flare/weapon pylon 0.5T+5t payload=16T MTOW. Can anyone get ex...
by sankum
14 Feb 2015 18:59
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA Tejas: News and Discussions
Replies: 3980
Views: 212826

Re: LCA Tejas: News and Discussions

NLCA mk2 has enhanced dimensions of L=14.56m W=8.9m and H=4.64m as compared to LCA mk2 dimensions of L=13.7m W=8.2m and H=4.4m. as given in brochures of AI15. Previous reports have given estimated empty weight of LCA mk2 as 6.21T with target of 6.06T and that of NLCA mk2 as 6.91T to 6.96T. Based on ...
by sankum
13 Feb 2015 22:44
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA Tejas: News and Discussions
Replies: 3980
Views: 212826

Re: LCA Tejas: News and Discussions

The number of jaguars are 123 nos in service in 6sq and will remain in service till 2035 with engine and avionics upgrade to all in 60 nos and 68 nos lot when last reported.

168 nos were inducted of which 45 nos have been lost.
by sankum
13 Feb 2015 22:36
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval News & Discussion - 12 Oct 2013
Replies: 4029
Views: 220828

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

IN retired 3 remaining Sea harrier trainers in 2012 according to CAG report and only 8 upgraded Sea harriers are in service which were to be retired along with INS Viraat. If IN has preponed the retirement it means it is not cost effective and it is for good as the money saved can be spent on other ...
by sankum
03 Feb 2015 22:01
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013
Replies: 3967
Views: 202579

Re: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013

Any confirmation link that replacement Dhruv was delivered to Ecuadorian air force to take the number to eight as several news reports are claiming that only 3 Dhruv are remaining
by sankum
03 Feb 2015 15:45
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013
Replies: 3967
Views: 202579

Re: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013

Updated info on confirmed 13 nos Dhruv exported.

Ecuadorian air force- 7 nos of which 4 crashes

Nepal- 3 nos

Maldives- 2 nos

Mauritius- 1 nos

More Dhruv may have been exported.
by sankum
03 Feb 2015 15:38
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013
Replies: 3967
Views: 202579

Re: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013

Updated info on 16 Dhruv supplied to Indian civil sector.

BSF- 7 nos of which 2 crashes

ONGC- 2 nos

Jharkhand- 1 nos

HAL- 4 nos

Geological survey of India- 1 nos

ROTARY WING ACADEMY - 1 nos
by sankum
02 Feb 2015 22:20
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013
Replies: 3967
Views: 202579

Re: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013

Cant make out from the above format about which service has how many Dhruv in service

Can you kindly condense it in the format I have used.

Thanks

Any corrections are welcome.
by sankum
30 Jan 2015 15:03
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013
Replies: 3967
Views: 202579

Re: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013

Of 31/32 nos delivered to other than Indian def forces BSF-7nos Ecuadorian air force-8nos Nepal-3nos Maldives-3nos Mauritius-1/2nos Jharkhand- 2nos ONGC- 6nos Geological survey of India-1nos The production for IA @16/year and IAF @8/year. IN @4/year and CG@4/year for a total of @32/year should be ai...
by sankum
30 Jan 2015 00:08
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013
Replies: 3967
Views: 202579

Re: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013

It can be very well that 201-204 AAS(UH) are equipped with 40nos mk1/mk2 @ 10nos/unit and 205 AAS(UH) onward mk3 equipped and there should be at least 4 units and may be a couple of unit from 301 AAS (Spl Ops) onward with the Rudra (Mk 4). IAF 2sq with 22nos mk1/2 @11nos/sq. and 2sq more with mk3. M...
by sankum
29 Jan 2015 23:42
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013
Replies: 3967
Views: 202579

Re: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013

At present rate of 24/year it will take upto 2018 to fulfill the 159nos order. It was a CAG report which criticized the low production rate of Dhruv @ 24/year which was last reported for FY13. and there was a news report that 30nos can be produced/ year only when 40/year capacity is built and HAL bu...
by sankum
29 Jan 2015 23:07
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013
Replies: 3967
Views: 202579

Re: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013

By FY 2009 90nos Dhruv in mk1/mk2 configuration were delivered of which 74nos went to indian defence forces and 16 to others. IA got 40nos+IAF got 22nos +IN got 8nos + CG got 4 nos=74nos Production was halted to begin production of mk3 version of 159nos order of which 105nos was for army(of which 60...
by sankum
29 Jan 2015 22:55
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013
Replies: 3967
Views: 202579

Re: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013

Well I can only hazard a guess based on records of news paper and internet reports I have kept for several years and projected production rates. January 2015 Total no of deliveries approx. 192nos with 11 crashes. IA- Approx 100 nos with 3 crashes IAF- Approx 50 nos with 2 crashes IN- 8 nos CG-4 nos ...
by sankum
29 Jan 2015 00:12
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013
Replies: 3967
Views: 202579

Re: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013

No need to subsidies Dhruv export. Hal has 350 nos on order/delivered to Indian defence forces with more orders to follow.

Better privatize HAL and let it compete in International market.

Given the work culture in a PSU you just cant compete.
by sankum
27 Jan 2015 23:17
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013
Replies: 3964
Views: 210265

Re: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013

It seems GE 414 engine for LCA mk2 will have ede enhancement and if NLCA mk2 engine has emergency take off thrust of 10.7 T than take off weight from ski jump ramp of aircraft carrier will rise to 14.5T which I estimate to be the minimum MTOW of LCA mk2 air force version. LCA MK2 empty wt 6.1T + 3T ...
by sankum
26 Jan 2015 16:15
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: IAF Re-Equipment Schedule
Replies: 60
Views: 5837

Re: IAF Re-Equipment Schedule

No of squadrons and fighters will matter as in future if china has 2000 fighter and Pakistan has 400 fighter air force India will need to have minimum 50% of the combined 2400 fighter enemy fleet in a two front war scenario. IAF can have 1000 fighters(50sq) and IN 200 fighters(10sq) for a total of 1...
by sankum
15 Jan 2015 23:50
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013
Replies: 3964
Views: 210265

Re: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013

Aircraft taking of from ski jump on a carrier say a 200m run not only depends on TWR but also say approach speed of the aircraft i.e, wing design or say take of speed of aircraft on full load. If my memory serves right for earlier version of mig 29 take of speed was 125knots, Su27 take of speed was ...
by sankum
15 Jan 2015 10:47
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013
Replies: 3964
Views: 210265

Re: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013

NLCA mk1 empty weight over air force version will be reduced to 600kg from 1600kg present according to reports. NLCA MK1 empty weight of 7.2 T can be expected and maximum take of weight from carrier will be restricted to 12.5T according to ADA website which reduces the payload to 2.3T as 3T goes to ...
by sankum
10 Jan 2015 18:58
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014
Replies: 3615
Views: 661806

Re: Su-30: News and Discussion - August 9 , 2014

Only first 18nos were of Su 30 K/MK standard which were replaced by new build aircraft and rest 32nos were of Su 30mki standard tough of different incremental standard which were later upgraded to final configuration.
by sankum
04 Jan 2015 23:34
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: IAF Re-Equipment Schedule
Replies: 60
Views: 5837

Re: IAF Re-Equipment Schedule

If RAFALE deal falls through than IAF can go for direct purchase of 50 Su30mki + enhanced induction of Tejas mk2 @25 /year to maintain numbers. By 2030 IAF will be FGFA- 4sq (80nos) Su30mki- 18sq (340nos) Tejas mk2- 10sq (195nos) Tejas mk1- 2sq (50 nos) Mirage 2000-2sq (40 nos) Jaguar upg- 5sq (100 ...
by sankum
04 Jan 2015 23:10
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: IAF Re-Equipment Schedule
Replies: 60
Views: 5837

Re: IAF Re-Equipment Schedule

If IAF goes in for increased induction of Tejas mk2 and production is enhanced to @32/year with the second production line of @16/year going to private sector from 2022 onwards. IAF induction plan will be @25/year with rest @7/year to IN. By 2030 200nos(10sq) to IAF and 56nos (3sq) to IN. By 2027 12...
by sankum
04 Jan 2015 23:02
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: IAF Re-Equipment Schedule
Replies: 60
Views: 5837

Re: IAF Re-Equipment Schedule

My estimate that to maintain minimum 36sq by 2024 IAF will require addition of; 94 Rafale(5sq) 40 Sukhoi mki (2sq) 56 Tejas mk1 (3sq) [40mk1+16 trainer mk1] 20 Tejas mk2 (1sq) 210 fighters (11sq) for a total of 680 fighters (36sq) - 56 Tejas mk1 by 2022( I am giving a delay of one year over present ...
by sankum
04 Jan 2015 06:36
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: IAF Re-Equipment Schedule
Replies: 60
Views: 5837

Re: IAF Re-Equipment Schedule

My estimate that IAF projection of 25 squadron taking attrition into account in 2024 is as follows. Su30 mki- 14sq (260nos of 272nos inducted) Mirage 2000- 2sq( 45nos of present 49nos) Mig 29 upg- 3sq (55nos of present 60 nos) Jaguar upg- 6sq (110nos of present 123nos) Total- 25sq (470 fighters) Thi...
by sankum
04 Jan 2015 00:57
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: IAF Re-Equipment Schedule
Replies: 60
Views: 5837

Re: IAF Re-Equipment Schedule

MIG 21 Bison have upgraded calendar life of 40 years or 4000hrs according to reports.

50 Mig 21 bis were direct purchase in 1977-78 while 245nos were manufactured in 1980-88 timeframe @30/year.

By 2022 only 70 to 80 nos will be below 40years say forming 4 squadrons.
by sankum
04 Jan 2015 00:32
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: IAF Re-Equipment Schedule
Replies: 60
Views: 5837

Re: IAF Re-Equipment Schedule

Rafale timeline for induction according to reports is 11 years for 126 aircraft of which first 18 is direct purchase and 108 manufactured by HAL. First 6 Rafale manufactured by HAL will roll out in the 4th year and the production will then be raised to peak 16/year. If Rafale deal is signed by 31 Ma...
by sankum
03 Jan 2015 21:55
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: IAF Re-Equipment Schedule
Replies: 60
Views: 5837

Re: IAF Re-Equipment Schedule

Another 71 aircraft can come of HAL production line @16/year in 4.5 years i.e by 2019 and if 40 more Su30mki are ordered to take total to 312nos(16sq) than they can come by 2022 when the production line can shift to FGFA.
by sankum
03 Jan 2015 21:47
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: IAF Re-Equipment Schedule
Replies: 60
Views: 5837

Re: IAF Re-Equipment Schedule

Su 30mki reports say 81 were delivered by 2013(I am taking by March 31,2013). In next 2 years 30 more would have come from HAL production line @15/year. That takes the total to 81+30=111. Plus 50 initial direct import from Russia for a total of 161. Another 40 were direct import from Russia which we...
by sankum
29 Dec 2014 13:55
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: AMCA News and Discussions
Replies: 3315
Views: 504877

Re: AMCA News and Discussions

I expect AMCA empty weight to be 11T, internal fuel to be 6.5T to give comparable range of Pak fa and F35. Clean stealthy air to air mission weight of 19T with 6 BVR AAM and 2 CCM. Clean stealthy air to ground mission weight of 21T with 3T internal payload. As MTOW has increased to 24.2T dimensions ...
by sankum
28 Dec 2014 01:25
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: AMCA News and Discussions
Replies: 3315
Views: 504877

Re: AMCA News and Discussions

My estimate of earlier internal weapon bay was of 4m by 1.8m capable of carrying 5 BVR AAM or 2 air to ground weapon plus 2 BVR AAM as in CGI video released of earlier version. Now to carry 3T of internal weapon which is a pleasant surprise my estimate will be 4.3m by 2.15m so as to carry 6 BVR AAM ...
by sankum
27 Dec 2014 14:04
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: AMCA News and Discussions
Replies: 3315
Views: 504877

Re: AMCA News and Discussions

AMCA
MTOW of 24.2 T
Internal weapon load of 3T.
Requirement of 105 KN engine. 5% margin therefore RFP of 110 KN.
Rs 4000 Cr for 3-4 flying prototypes.
First flight by 2020-21.
Rs 100 Cr spent so far.
by sankum
21 Dec 2014 05:07
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013
Replies: 3964
Views: 210265

Re: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013

As per Saurav Jha's article IAF Lca mk1 order is likely to be upped by 16 trainer version after first 40 mk1 and other reports IN will get 8mk1+latter 10mki=18 for a total of 74 nos which will keep production line open till 2022 @max 16/year. More LCA mk1 can be expected as IAF and IN can use it as ...
by sankum
09 Dec 2014 06:38
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013
Replies: 3964
Views: 210265

Re: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013

It is 32 single seat+ 8 trainers for IAF=40 LCA mk1 and 4 single seat and 4 trainers=8 LCA mk1 for IN.
by sankum
05 Dec 2014 16:49
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval News & Discussion - 12 Oct 2013
Replies: 4029
Views: 220828

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

16 Sea Hawk MRH and 16 ALH by 2018 should boost the IN Helo ASW assets. 140 MRH of 10-12T are required for which sea hawk/S 92 combination will be the best. S 92 indigenous production can be taken up if it wins and is likely to win 124nos make in India Helo RFP. NLUH requirement of 100nos RFI can be...
by sankum
04 Dec 2014 09:11
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval News & Discussion - 12 Oct 2013
Replies: 4029
Views: 220828

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

white shit or shirt ha ha ha

please don't mind I got surprised

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