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by surinder
17 Dec 2007 19:58
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India - 2
Replies: 319
Views: 65635

I read about Gandhi's philosophy and his behaviour. I now consider him a psycho or a man faking wisdom who did immense damage to our civlisation and cause. The more I read about him, the more disgusted I feel. His petty fads (goat's milk, bowel movements), his personal jealousies and favouratism (p...
by surinder
13 Dec 2007 04:22
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India - 2
Replies: 319
Views: 65635

op-Ed in Pioneer, 13 Dec., 2007 Is it not surprising that medieval Hindus never produced a single document that critically examines Islam ? It was done by Raja Rammohun Roy (who knew Arabic), Girish Chandra Sen of the Brahmo Samaj, Swami Dayanand -- all in British India; whereas Ram Swarup and Sita...
by surinder
13 Dec 2007 01:48
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India - 2
Replies: 319
Views: 65635

Bhima must have been fascist RSS member . Who enrolled him < Lord Krishna ? :oops: I hope Bhima's progeny learn that violence is bad, it only begets more violence, and that more could have achieved by love and use of satyagraha. I hope Bhima's progeny would purge all atrocities of Duryodhana from t...
by surinder
12 Dec 2007 19:53
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India - 2
Replies: 319
Views: 65635

Bhima after all proceeded to wash himself in Duryodhana's blood after breaking open Duryodhana's thigh - the lap that Duryodhana had forced Draupadi to sit on. How violent of Bhima. He should have declared satyagraha instead of resorting to violence. He should have gone for fast. Given that he was ...
by surinder
12 Dec 2007 19:49
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India - 2
Replies: 319
Views: 65635

shiv wrote:A lot of deaf people, and a lot of blind people miraculously received the gift of Allah - they got back their hearing and eyesight on that day. Truly the ways of Allah are mysterious and great! Praise be upon him!


:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Praise be to Alla.
by surinder
12 Dec 2007 19:47
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India - 2
Replies: 319
Views: 65635

Thank you Sumeet and Johann. I wll tabulate according to date so we have a "Lest we forget" for every one of those dates. It is funny that you proposed this list, I was thinking of it for the last few days. A couple of suggestions: (1) Post it in a searchable web page. (Googlepages are fr...
by surinder
11 Dec 2007 23:11
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India - 2
Replies: 319
Views: 65635

One method to do that is to appeal to their "good governance and fairness" side while reducing the fear they have that Musilms are about to be slaughtered by the "vast mass" ... This group, like I mentioned earlier, needs to be dealt with finesse. In fact, explaining to them tha...
by surinder
07 Dec 2007 20:57
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India - 2
Replies: 319
Views: 65635

indygill wrote:
What exactly is it that the Hindus are so apologetic about?

I think the role of "brahmo samaj" in creating this Hindu Character should be looked into more deeply.

Apologetic Attitude was literally started by “Brahmo Samajâ€
by surinder
07 Dec 2007 20:00
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India - 2
Replies: 319
Views: 65635

Shiv, Heartfelt post. While I grew up within a sea of Hinduism, I am not a Hindu. what confuses me to this day is the following questions: What exactly is it that the Hindus are so apologetic about? I can understand Germans & Japanese shame, but what is that the Hindus have done? I cannot unders...
by surinder
07 Dec 2007 02:33
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

To quote: "I dont understand Indian Muslims how they think...they will defend every idiot...Saddam, Khomeini, Osama it doesnt matter...dont they realise that all three of them hated each other? At least pick just one." This just shows that even the Iranians don't respect or hold the IM's ...
by surinder
07 Dec 2007 02:31
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

54 out of the 75 regiments from 'Bengal' (which then included much of Ganjetic India) in the EIC's Bengal Army mutinied, and most of the remainder were disarmed and disbanded before they could mutiny. Disarming meant that at the very least they werent available for military duties. Without the 16,0...
by surinder
06 Dec 2007 20:59
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

I specifically referred to the conduct of Sikh troops during 1857. They refused to go over to the other side despite *enormous* pressures, inducements and opportunities to do so, and thus constituted the bulk of reliable troops available to the British at the time. Had the Sikhs revolted in 1857, t...
by surinder
06 Dec 2007 20:19
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

It is always a problem if you elevate someone to the level of God and then try to anoint him with human like weaknesses. Gandhi had strengths and weaknesses and it is best to view him that way. We may accuse "other people" of elevating Gandhi to a God like status, but when people say &quo...
by surinder
06 Dec 2007 20:09
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

1857 was an absolute cataclysm for the Muslims of Ganjetic India. They launched a divisive and savage jihad against the Nazrani/Angrezi in the name of Deen-e-Islam and the Padishah, failed, and were paid back with only slightly less savagery in the same currency they had attempted to use. They suff...
by surinder
06 Dec 2007 08:22
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

Re: The Great Hindu debate

The Great Hindu debate Sharia or Islamic law allows the application of collective guilt and punishment of a group for the crime of an individual from that group. Such crimes are described in sharia as qesas crimes. I am wondering anyone could provide me some idea about collective punishments in Isl...
by surinder
06 Dec 2007 08:18
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

I want to make a contribution on the Islamism topic with a acronym:

PBUH = Permanent Bile Upon Hindusm,
PBUH = Permanent Bile Upon Humanity

(I read the second one somewhere ... first one is my creation).

Another one is:

Britain = United Thiefdom
by surinder
06 Dec 2007 08:14
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

I posted a reply to this online: Shiv, I noticed that in your response to the article on the outlook site, you seemed tame and held-back. I saw none of the pointed and sharp arguments which you use here on BRF with devastating accuracy. I hope you do not mind my opinion, for I just thought I'd shar...
by surinder
06 Dec 2007 03:48
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

Take a look at Punjab , e Dhimmi problem is so minute , almost extinct. Prem, you have cited the example of Punjab as a model for success but do not explain the costs of the genocidal like civil war, the loss of hundreds of thousands on both sides of Pubjab, the loss of over 60% of the territory of...
by surinder
06 Dec 2007 01:39
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

For society to update itself require mobility . PSec are hinderance as they keep creating fault lines and false groupings with no historical roots or relevance. Unless there is understanding organic whole among Dharmic followers, we will keep wasting enegry without achieving anything permanent . Is...
by surinder
05 Dec 2007 22:55
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

I read in a book on management an experiment tried on monkeys. They put a few monkeys in an enclosed space with one pole which had bananas on the top. The monkeys clamor to climb up the pole to get the bananas, but are discouraged by some strong tactic (like a strong water fountain or electric shock...
by surinder
05 Dec 2007 22:49
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

I posted a reply to this online: Shiv, I noticed that in your response to the article on the outlook site, you seemed tame and held-back. I saw none of the pointed and sharp arguments which you use here on BRF with devastating accuracy. I hope you do not mind my opinion, for I just thought I'd shar...
by surinder
05 Dec 2007 08:12
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

I see a lot of confusion on this forum (and outside) on questions like "Who is a dhimmi?", "Who is not?", "Who is a Hindu fundamentalist?", "Who is not?", "Who is a Hindu revivalist?""Who is not?" etc. .... A hurried change in dhimmi minds...
by surinder
03 Dec 2007 02:03
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

While thinking about the India being Islamic, a thought occured to me. It is more accurate to describe India as not Islamic, but as being Dhimmic. But being a Dhimmi has a very special meaning in Islam. Theoretically it is how Islam sets down some clear rules for non-Muslims to live and breath in a ...
by surinder
03 Dec 2007 01:54
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

At a national and international level India allows islamists to gain space and points. India is a giant that acts like a dwarf. When it is treated as a dwarf by others, India does not like it. Germany & Japan are also two countries that act as dwarfs while being giants. But they are that way be...
by surinder
03 Dec 2007 01:50
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

Let me quote from memory one of IG's more underhanded foreign policy actions. She had India apply for OIC membership early in the group's formation as a (get this) 'semi-izlamic state'. Her arguments mirror many you made - that we allow (limited) sharia, that muzlim rights (including jizya, perhaps...
by surinder
30 Nov 2007 22:18
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

I am glad someone is countering Shiv. Here are my responses in Red/Bold inside: people seem to have accepted Shiv's contention that India is dar-ul-islam light. So here is a questionnaire for you: Name the Islamic countries where muslims have been killed by non-muslims because they were muslims (nev...
by surinder
30 Nov 2007 19:32
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

Not just survived, but truimphed. Spain was a 200% Muslim country for 500 years. Spanish recovered that land and denuded it of Islam. And Chickend out when 200 were sent to Heaven! Israel and other eurpeon countries are having backing of uncle. Here everyone is against us! One fine day unkil send i...
by surinder
30 Nov 2007 19:28
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

Maybe I should rename this thread "Learning to love the Islamic Republic of India" I believe it is shameful and insulting to be forced to swallow the idea that the behavior of India as a nation is similar to that of any Islamic nation in accepting without murmur bias against non Muslims a...
by surinder
30 Nov 2007 19:24
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

Not all is lost, however. Political Islam is, by far, America's greatest geopolitical, financial and civilizational threat. America has little or no leverage over Pakistan or Saudi Arabia. But without neutralizing the powerful political Islamic movements there, America will bleed down from a great ...
by surinder
30 Nov 2007 19:17
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

Re: Muslim extremism in India

Jihad in India: An Interview with Moorthy Muthuswamy http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=33ADCAA3-1E36-4665-881D-8E6C4F6C8D7B I did not realize that the poster himself was the author. First and foremost, my deepest thanks for writing this book. I note that you are a Nuclear Physicts...
by surinder
30 Nov 2007 19:14
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

Of all the civilizations ravaged by Islam guess which one survived? Pulikeshi, You intend your question as a rhetorical question. Your implied answer is Hinduism/India. But I am sorry to burst your bubble, and also that of many others on this forum, many other faiths and many other societies and ma...
by surinder
30 Nov 2007 00:05
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

SBakwa makes an interesting point - that pseudo swecularism in India is due to vote bak politics. And that is because the Hindu vote is divided dramatically due to caste. An eminent BRFite gave us the equation describing power in India: MyCaste + Muslims = Power 80% Jews in Israel are not burnt by ...
by surinder
29 Nov 2007 22:07
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

Surinder, a quick note, afaik, no Islamic country offers Haj subsidy simply because it is un-Islamic. Even Pakistan had to stop it after ruling from Lahore High Court. Regarding destruction of non-Muslim place of worship, I don't know whether any major place of worship was destroyed post-1947 and a...
by surinder
29 Nov 2007 19:37
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

⋅ Make a list of countries in the world in which non Muslims are regularly killed by Muslims in the name of Islam. You will find many Islamic countries' names on that list. And India of course. If you arrange this list in order according to number of non-muslims killed, India comes out at...
by surinder
28 Nov 2007 22:05
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

The discussion of caste is not irrelevant to Islamism. It is relevant because it relates directly to the level of Islamism seen in India. I don't thnk we need to have multiple threads and we should not stop it here. That is my request to the admins.
by surinder
28 Nov 2007 22:03
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Tackling Islamic Extremism in India
Replies: 320
Views: 58670

There may be many reasons why invaders overran India Among these are: 1) Insularity, cultural innocence and naivete of a highly evolved Hindu society when faced with an existential threat as eloquently described by Jwalamukhi on page 5 of this thread 2) Fractionation and specialization of duties to...
by surinder
31 Oct 2007 10:13
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Historical Battles in Ancient & Medieval Bharat
Replies: 360
Views: 135558

This is the Historical Battles thread...for discussions on history please go to India Forum.
by surinder
11 Oct 2007 09:38
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Pashtun Civil War
Replies: 505
Views: 79118

Where the Fcukk is Amnesty International and HR watch? Villages being bombed and not a squeak from them? Amnesty International is a prostitute of USA/UK/Europe: a useful dog that can be leashed on civil and dhimmi society. This is not an area that tends to be unsafe sometime, instead it is an area ...
by surinder
10 Oct 2007 22:13
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Pashtun Civil War
Replies: 505
Views: 79118

Baitullu may be Gandu but we have to make sure that onlee Bakis are the recipient of his Gandugiri. The british thought of all Indians as useless garbage. They supported the weaker one to counter the stronger one. Uncle, also does the same---it probably likes neither India nor TSP, but supports TSP...
by surinder
10 Oct 2007 20:05
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Pashtun Civil War
Replies: 505
Views: 79118

Let me ask a question: How difficult is it to hop onto a train or a bus and take a ride to Lahore or Rawalpindindi from all the tribal places?

If it is not too difficult, then why are the tribals not taking short trip to do what they do best?

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