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by rohitvats
31 May 2017 10:28
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 5116
Views: 1072084

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions-May 2017

What was IA's SR-SAM requirement? Which missile was in competition?
by rohitvats
28 May 2017 21:11
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014
Replies: 3027
Views: 428819

Re: Su-30: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014

A MiG 29 had simply vanished over the Himalayas - discussed on here in 2011 - found after 8 days http://www.hindustantimes.com/india/iaf-task-force-locates-mig-29-wreckage-after-8-days/story-ADlvXgRtO8bXAZTGtaDuZO.html Slightly OT - Crashed into a mountain side at 15,000+ feet. I happened to bump i...
by rohitvats
28 May 2017 21:03
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014
Replies: 3840
Views: 545906

Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

<SNIP>Actually more importantly the major Rose up through the other ranks and became an officer . Could be a primary reason he doesn't give 2 hoots about political correctness and was able yet take this decision . That is no reason or even a conjecture. It depends purely on the officer in question.
by rohitvats
25 May 2017 12:43
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Artillery: News & Discussion
Replies: 4827
Views: 697959

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread

Parallel production order for Dhanush, Mounted Gun System and ATAGS will ensure we can re-equip the army in about 5 years. Same should go for ammunition production.
by rohitvats
25 May 2017 11:16
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA: News & Discussions - October 2016
Replies: 4125
Views: 736082

Re: LCA: News & Discussions - October 2016

I'm actually surprised people on BRF are not aware about Operational Readiness Point (ORP). Every front-line airbase maintains about 2 fighters on 24 x 7 ORP; these scramble under 2-minutes from the word go. Take a look at any IAF airfield in western sector - you'll see aircraft shelters right under...
by rohitvats
25 May 2017 11:01
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Artillery: News & Discussion
Replies: 4827
Views: 697959

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread

^^^I didn't mention army at all. Simply that we've a convoluted system which works for its own benefit. Not the country.
by rohitvats
25 May 2017 11:00
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 5116
Views: 1072084

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions-May 2017

What is the status on HELINA? There were supposed to be tests in August 2016 with new Sofradir FPA?
by rohitvats
25 May 2017 10:36
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Artillery: News & Discussion
Replies: 4827
Views: 697959

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread

M777 took a cool 10 years to come, in less than half that time we have the first prototypes of the ATAGS ready. If we started the development of an ULH instead of just putting out tenders we might have had our own in service already. Half that time was possible because someone like BF went and boug...
by rohitvats
25 May 2017 10:34
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Artillery: News & Discussion
Replies: 4827
Views: 697959

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread

Sad that Kalyani's Bharat52 was shot down in its infancy itself (and Tata Power SED's gun as well). GOI should have supported such companies like Bharat Forge or L&T extensively. Why the **** they want to give freebies to Ambanis or Adanis..?? <SNIP> You seem to forget a minor episode of GCF Ja...
by rohitvats
24 May 2017 11:34
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014
Replies: 3840
Views: 545906

Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

Is it lost on the people here that officer is from north-east? That's a bigger middle finger to every d1ck-head out there.
by rohitvats
22 May 2017 21:16
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: MBT Arjun - News and Discussions
Replies: 1820
Views: 274497

Re: MBT Arjun - News and Discussions

Pratyush wrote:I am amazed by some of the arguments against arjun. CVRDE can't build arjun but it can build T 90. A tank is a tank. If one can be built another can be built as well. No


That comment about Arjun and CVRDE is not an argument against Arjun. But about IA's lack of faith in CVRDE.
by rohitvats
22 May 2017 19:56
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4036
Views: 680249

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

There was a time when Para SF chaps were not seconded to NSG. The practice has stopped. Maybe, it has resumed again.
by rohitvats
22 May 2017 19:48
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
Replies: 3211
Views: 474658

Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Only time it Israelis faced a professionally trained army with good leadership and clarity of objective, it almost lost the war. Remember the 1973 Yom-Kippur War? Israelis lost a staggering amount of aircraft and whole of Sinai.
by rohitvats
22 May 2017 19:41
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: MBT Arjun - News and Discussions
Replies: 1820
Views: 274497

Re: MBT Arjun - News and Discussions

jamwal wrote:Oh yes, i am childish, but this is not immature fanboyism which defends the indefensible with covoluted arguements and shifting goalposts , just like IA. Lol


My mistake. You comment was on the line of famous pat-on-the-back 'BRF ahead of curve' argument.
by rohitvats
22 May 2017 19:39
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: MBT Arjun - News and Discussions
Replies: 1820
Views: 274497

Re: MBT Arjun - News and Discussions

Can you assure that Russian suppliers are being handed contracts that are unbiased and clean? (No!) Can your Arjun component suppliers ensure ASRs are to their benefit? (No!) You know very well how the process works. Not much more can be said here since you will ask for proof next, which you also k...
by rohitvats
22 May 2017 19:30
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: MBT Arjun - News and Discussions
Replies: 1820
Views: 274497

Re: MBT Arjun - News and Discussions

<SNIP>Only a naive babe in woods will attribute preference for t90 and disdain for Arjun as something not related to corruption and \or incompetence in army and maybe to some extent in mod. And only prejudiced and lazy minds on BRF, who cannot see beyond their rhetoric, see corruption as the only r...
by rohitvats
22 May 2017 11:53
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: MBT Arjun - News and Discussions
Replies: 1820
Views: 274497

Re: MBT Arjun - News and Discussions

Ramana saar, some of us are far closer to users than the engineers around. And being part of the ecosystem or seeing it up close, can safely say corruption is the main cause for the Arjun saga. Anyone who supplies to the IA will know. We know folks who do and I cannot tell you how badly off things ...
by rohitvats
22 May 2017 11:44
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: 'Make in India' Single engined fighter
Replies: 5425
Views: 604469

Re: 'Make in India' Single engined fighter

Reading Shivshankar Menon's book "Choices" right now and he says that it is only in the last 10 years that the Indian army has achieved frorce levels on the border with China sufficient to check Chinese creeping infiltration. In the last confrontation - China poured in hundreds of troops ...
by rohitvats
19 May 2017 20:37
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4036
Views: 680249

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

NSG First & third are good photo ops but bunched up without cover is asking for trouble, unless its a very momentary pause during sprint that the camera happened to capture. <SNIP> IMO, this bunching up of men (single file formation) is part of CQB drill and not exactly to be followed when you'...
by rohitvats
18 May 2017 14:52
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Artillery: News & Discussion
Replies: 4827
Views: 697959

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread

....and I thought such nonsense was restricted to only LCA thread!

Completely off-topic - may be, M777 is actually being inducted and Dhanush is undergoing user trials from first batch of 3+3 guns? Though technically, it has been inducted because IA took them on its TOE.
by rohitvats
16 May 2017 11:15
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Analyzing CPEC
Replies: 1363
Views: 223173

Re: Analyzing CPEC

^^^I'm going to Tweet a part of the above.
by rohitvats
15 May 2017 11:54
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: CT & COIN Operations in India: News, Images and Discussion
Replies: 2406
Views: 364681

Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

<SNIP>fellow soldiers in an unit massacring or abetting killing of non-KMs since 1947. It's tragic but true. You've any example of fellow soldiers being massacred by Kashmiri Muslims soldiers ever since J&K became part of India? And examples of Dogra rulers Muslims troops mutiny and desertion t...
by rohitvats
15 May 2017 11:41
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Artillery: News & Discussion
Replies: 4827
Views: 697959

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread

Pakistan does not have 72 of those Turkish guns. Nor have any been produced in-house. Pakistan does not produce any artillery piece; does some mods to their older M-109. As for tracked arty, it is about mobility through a terrain which wheeled vehicles might not be able to cope. Secondly, it carries...
by rohitvats
14 May 2017 08:44
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: PAK-FA and FGFA: News & Discussion - June 2014
Replies: 2665
Views: 293602

Re: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread - June 2014

Karan M wrote:Literally no aft quarter stealth at all.


Layman question alert - What advantage does this a/c offer over Su-30 with upgrades? And how relevant are those in terms of emerging threats? What is longevity of its sub-systems?
by rohitvats
11 May 2017 08:38
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles: News & Discussion
Replies: 3547
Views: 415457

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - August 9, 2014

and backup by loads and loads of Rudras and LCH needed - infact all our armed gunships should be deployed in the mountains. the plains formations have lot of other assets and chances of a major war with TSP very low. Interestingly, first of the newly conceived Combat Aviation Brigade was raised und...
by rohitvats
11 May 2017 08:24
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles: News & Discussion
Replies: 3547
Views: 415457

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - August 9, 2014

So, no tank battles on China front, is it? Do tell that to the army which raised an independent armored brigade for Eastern Ladakh. And someone like Lt Gen Panag, who literally wrote SOP for fighting mechanized warfare in this sector, feels we need more such assets. At least one more armored brigade...
by rohitvats
11 May 2017 08:00
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
Replies: 3211
Views: 474658

Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

At one point in time, IA had dedicated ATGM battalions under Brigade of Guards. But most, all may be, have converted to Recce & Support (R&S) role. Some are tracked (with BMP-2) and others are wheeled (Jeep mounted ATGM). There is a Rocky and Mayur show with 17 Guards which is a R&S batt...
by rohitvats
09 May 2017 09:42
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
Replies: 3211
Views: 474658

Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Well, the said missile has to be Milan rather than Konkur. For a simple reason that Konkur is used on BMP-2 by Mech Inf while Milan is the standard ATGM with the infantry.
by rohitvats
08 May 2017 14:34
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
Replies: 4047
Views: 632830

Re: Indian Military Helicopters

<SNIP>In mid 80s six MBB BO-15 with 6 Anti tank missiles wrecked havoc in a NATO exercise. ALH is BO-105 ka baap. But handicapped with lack of weaponry is my worry. Rudra is BO-105P. Secondly, pilots need to be trained for anti-tank roles - pilots doing utility roles cannot simply switch to AT role...
by rohitvats
07 May 2017 01:35
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Artillery: News & Discussion
Replies: 4827
Views: 697959

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread

Shiv - 105mm is a single piece round like western tank guns.
by rohitvats
04 May 2017 19:12
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 4681
Views: 705101

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

The army has some interesting views on what is light and not light. 120 mm mortar is pretty devastating on its own... Classification is based on diameter of the barrel. 105mm IFG and 120mm are Light; 130mm M-46 and 155mm Bofors/Dhanush is Medium; 160mm Tempella M-58 Mortar is the only heavy caliber...
by rohitvats
04 May 2017 14:05
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 4681
Views: 705101

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

Toi article had some numbers. Seems we have 4 regiments with 67 missiles each and 5 telars each with 3 tubes ready to unload pain.<SNIP> The Brahmos Regiment with 42nd Artillery Div of 1 Strike Corps is the 3rd regiment. 2 and 21 Strike Corps arty divs got them first. And must have been inducted pr...
by rohitvats
03 May 2017 22:11
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 4681
Views: 705101

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

malushahi wrote:
rohitvats wrote:Sapta Shakti Comd & Strike 1 Corps #IndianArmy launches #Brahmos Block- III M


block3 and I-corps?


:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Wonderful, isn't it? 42 Artillery Division of 1 Strike Corps would be holding these beauties. Great capability addition to the Army.
by rohitvats
03 May 2017 17:21
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 4681
Views: 705101

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

From Twitter:

ADG PI - INDIAN ARMY‏Verified account @adgpi 3h3 hours ago
Sapta Shakti Comd & Strike 1 Corps #IndianArmy launches #Brahmos Block- III Msl in operational configuration from A&N Islands.#BrahmosIndia


https://twitter.com/adgpi/status/859689476863528960
by rohitvats
26 Apr 2017 14:11
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Internal Security Watch
Replies: 4306
Views: 433458

Re: Internal Security Watch

Sachin, difference between BSF and CRPF is in the role and orientation of the force and its troops. BSF mans the border and does not under policing tasks. While not termed as a Para-military, they're the closest we've to one after Assam Rifles. ITBP is also in the same league. Tough men who undergo ...
by rohitvats
20 Apr 2017 19:03
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: J&K News and Discussion - 2016
Replies: 2554
Views: 475993

Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

http://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/kashmirvalleys-lost-middle-ground-as-voter-turnout-was-lowst-in-srinagar-since-insurgency-4620129/ Very good article by Lt General Hooda, ex-Northern Army Commander. Shows very clear appreciation of the situation and ground realities. Excerpt: In any...
by rohitvats
17 Apr 2017 00:54
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: J&K News and Discussion - 2016
Replies: 2554
Views: 475993

Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Stone pelters viewed from inside the MPV. Remarkable restraint and self control showed the army personnel inside the vehicle. https://vimeo.com/213427902 Can we make this viral. Post it in Facebook and other SM Should come up on CNN and major TV channels worldwide if possible. Needs at least 10M vi...
by rohitvats
16 Apr 2017 21:15
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 187577

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

Link to doc version of the book - CIA's Secret War in Tibet. https://tinyurl.com/m36ejpm You can read about the book here: https://www.amazon.com/CIAs-Secret-Tibet-Modern-Studies/dp/0700617884/ref=pd_sim_14_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0700617884&pd_rd_r=MYC3FT29J0NP720VSZ89&pd_rd_w=dhPoi&am...
by rohitvats
16 Apr 2017 20:58
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 187577

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

This was posted earlier as well. Re-posting it in light of discussion about the UK-Tibet border.

The case of Barahoti, the first Himalyan blunder

http://claudearpi.blogspot.in/2017/01/the-case-of-barahoti-first-himalyan.html

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