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nashCS wrote:Saw two f 18E/F and a KC 135 tanker/ support aircraft land at HAL airport at 5.30 PM. Is this the beginning of the tests?

Has to be. There is no other reason for F-18s to be at HAL airport I guess.

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As far as the MKI is concerned we replaced many of the key avionics with French/Israeli/Indian ones. So except for the radar the IAF did not seem too impressed with Russian avionics then. What makes you think they are any better now?? Even the radar has a big question mark on it. And I don't think ...

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Technically Bankrupt ? Well PAK-FA or no PAK-FA , if you look at their other aviation project like MKI , 34 , Su-35 , Air Defence system etc the list is long ....... What makes you feel they are technically bankrupt , what did you read that made you say that ....can you share with us. If they are t...

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Actually the report states a contradiction between the MoD and the IAF statements. The MoD assured EADS that extra performance would result in more brownie points while the IAF reportedly denies it. Just hoping there might be some Chankian thinking here. If some of the high priced western jets star...

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Raja Bose wrote:
Rahul M wrote: ...
Those yellow visors posted by shameekg look similar to the GSG9 ones - do they offer protection against 9mm rounds (if so, at what distance)?

The NIJ Level IIIA rated face Masks posted by Drevin and rkhanna earlier seem to be better than the visors worn by the GIGN in that video.

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Now thats a billion dollar question , faith works when science fails :wink: :lol: Austin ji, what you said is applicable for western countries. In India, before every Agni launch, coconuts are broken, missile replica was taken to temple, lending the name of Buddha and all these things happens. Here...

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The Sad part is that we dont even need to buy Phoren maal. We have companies in India that make bulletproof Visors/Helmets/ Shields ,etc Would those shields be tactical shields like this http://www.vastacademy.com.au/images/Armour/Intruder_Shield_1.jpg Never seen NSG with this even in 26/11 pics. T...

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Frankly, I'd rather pay an extra premium for a Rafale/tiffy than go for an uber expensive shornet even if its a tad less. My 2 cents - if any country other than the US brings a fully functional AESA to our doorstep within the stipulated date then I too would be inclined to support the newer platfor...

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I still did not get what you are trying to say. Are you referring to IAF test pilots being involved in MRCA trials and hence being unavailable for testing the LCA? I do not know if that is the case. Haven't come across any news claiming as such. Yes, that is what I want to say. Please check news re...

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And who is this 'everyone' you talk about(in bold). LCA project is handled by ADA and HAL and they are definitely not interested in the MRCA right now. LCA test flights are continuing and RFPs have already been isuued for the GE-F414 and EJ-200 engines for the LCA mk2. everyone means means GoI, MoD...

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I agree that Rafale/Typhoon/SH would be less expensive to maintain than the Rambha based on anecdoctal evidence. However, the question is , by how much? Does it justify paying double the cost of rambha for each one of these aircraft? As regards to the reduced RCS, AESA etc, it depends on who our po...

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IAF won't get MRCA for the next 5 years at least. The earliest that the GoI will finalize the agreement is an year or so before the next elections, and that is four years down the line. The IAF will start getting the aircraft 12-15 months after the agreement is signed. Which means not before 2014-2...

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we can buy the 40 Su-30MKI off the self from russia ... we are also in discussion upgrading Mig-29, Jagaurs and so on. If more efforts from IAF, GoI, MoD, HAL, ADA are put ... things can move faster then current rate, With this rate, I dont think we will ever see LCA/MCA ... since more than one mon...

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Sorry for my ignorance ... but still I see no point in having a new kind of AC plane. Especially when it offer not much on top of Su-30MKI. If we are buying only to get AESA, it is not good investment. I will put $10b bet on LCA/MCA/Engine development. Even pumping in $10bil into the MCA program wo...

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OK. People are as if not more important than rupees. Never said that. I was correcting what appeared to me a factual error. Besides its not as if the GOI is pulling money out of budgetary allocations for Social welfare or Farm sector schemes to finance the MRCA acquisition. Further as NRao pointed ...

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ramana wrote:
Agriculture is still 70% of the economy.

Slight nitpick, 65% of the populace may be engaged in agriculture but its by no means 70% of the economy. Share of agriculture in GDP is closer to 17%.

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Cohen says a strange thing which I probably missed the first time. His last list of agenda for India, appears to me to include a most surprising demand - about global non-proliferation. Is Cohen looking or asking for Indian leadership in the matter? If Cohen indeed represents the forces that I susp...

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I am not talking about BP vest and other life saving equipment , $10 billion for a phoren aircraft is not a small price for a single deal , we are discussing MMRCA here. Well I was just highlighting a few instances of what the fight with whatever u get line of thinking leads to. It has been overuse...

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Nuclear deterrent helped in de-escalation of Kargil , the war was limited , or so the Paki want to believe. For rouge state who does not understand N deterrence and crosses the threshold , the only option is to exercise the nuclear option. No amount of conventional or technology superiority will de...

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Austin wrote:
Rahul M wrote:
The IAF should do with what they get and fight with what they have.

Because of that philosophy the IAF ended up fighting Sabres with Gnats in 65.

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Lets say if we buy a US aircraft and get loads of AMRAAM , JDAM ,AIM-9x , HARM . will they allow integration of such weapons with IAF existing fleet of MKI , 29upg , M2k upg , BISON ? Or will it remain exclusive F-18/16 weapon ? Exactly, that's the big question here. Buying a full range of munition...

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So we are back to who is Sita? Please see top of this page! Whether we reclaim TSP or not the entitiy in its present form shouldnt be allowed to exist. We can argue later what to do with the fallout. Sita is not material nor what has been written. My contention is simple - why should we add to our ...

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ramana wrote:SU-30MKI is not an MRCA?

Sure it is. But why are you asking this here?

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India is not doing America a favor by choosing to build stronger ties with America or trusting America and giving American companies a fair chance without prejudice. Yes it is, in todays world its Indian money which is going to keep so many millions from starving in which ever country India chooses...

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edited: Gagan posted corrected info

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How come there were two instructors in the HPT-32? Shouldn't one of them be a trainee pilot? Case of DDM?

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Some of the most "militant" and "persistent" users of violence and military coercion successfully as leaders were themselves academics and intellectuals - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Yossif Vissarionovitch Jugashvili (less of an academic than the first two...

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Igorr,
Prasun sengupta is easily the most hated Indian defence writer on this forum. Mostly because of his habit of lying through his teeth in practically every article.

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This is a very significant move, at once promising and dangerous. If pakis thin their troops and SDREs dont attack, fire, conduct artillery duels or provoke the pakis at the LOC, then it deflates the argument of the Paki army that India is enemy no 1. Ceasefire violations and Artillery duels can be...

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Our "Great" western neighbour has been ruled by Military minded people (half the time by army generals) for the past 60 years. How has it helped them? ... nachiket-ji, Our "Great" western rulers are not militaristic. They are yet to win a war, even against a rag-tag jihadi group...

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^^^ I observed that this tendency is prevalent in the current generation of youngsters who are making easy money without producing anything tangible :shock: . Hopefully the current economic doom will reset some realities in Indian middleclass. Could you please clarify the part in bold? What did peo...

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sanjaychoudhryji, Our "Great" western neighbour has been ruled by Military minded people (half the time by army generals) for the past 60 years. How has it helped them? You don't have to be 'military minded' not to be a buffoon. The restrictive socialistic economic policies followed by our...

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Hain jee and how do you think the PMO can handle the US pressure? With what? All alpha squirrels around. The MOD officials are forever on take and delay procurements. The Army takes for ever to mobilize and wants to fight WWI Battle of Somme all over again. The scientists give duds. The economists ...

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nachiketji, I appreciate your reservations. Ramanaji has already answered for me to a great extent. But in many pages of this thread in the earlier part we had thrashed out reasons and arguments for what I have stated above. May I request you to go over these earlier posts and give me your opinion ...

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nachiket, What brihaspatiji is saying is a goal. What you are saying are the practical impediments to achieving the goal. What is needed is to take a wholistic view and work around the impediments. ...If all we say is neti, neti, how can we bring about vasudeva kutumbam? Through out the ages there ...

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India should reclaim Pakistan not only because Pakistan has failed in all its justifications for its existence. But because the entire idea of Pakistan was an imagination based on an alien and imported ideology that was imposed on the land at the point of military coercion, and that still holds its...

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No, we already know what string comes attached , we have plenty of experience as well as experience of others to learn from. This is not a new thing. If that is the case then why is the IAF even considering american jets for the MMRCA order? It can be one of two cases- 1. The attached strings are a...

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Absolutely, what the hurry to wrap up the EUMA (from Indian perspective) let those who give us the best conditions take the MRCA contracts, why first accept a condition and tie our hands behind our back. You can look at it from another angle. Now that we have signed the EUMA (if indeed we have done...

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The key issues are,whether the US wil support these systems with spares,etc.,during a conflict,say with Pak? Whether it will impose sanctions durind such a conflict? Whether India can make modifications to such eqpt. found to be needed from our requirements and in our environment? How and where wil...

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Quite frankly, EUM is a very small mole in the mountain of challenges with the Indian MIC - the bigger challenges are there, and foreign collaboration, especially with, but not restricted to, the US will go a long way in gettign us where we really "deserve" to be.. Actually that spin is n...

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