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by ShauryaT
06 Jul 2007 22:55
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: 1962 Sino-Indian War: Declassified CIA Documents
Replies: 206
Views: 110198

Do not write him off yet. What he did 30 years ago is what you see everywhere now. Mujahids are running around the world now. Oh, come on now. As if he had the bloody foresight that the support to the Mujahideen will follow him all the way to his a** on the 94th floor of the WTC North Tower at 8.38...
by ShauryaT
06 Jul 2007 22:49
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: 1962 Sino-Indian War: Declassified CIA Documents
Replies: 206
Views: 110198

What plan? The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives (Paperback) by Zbigniew Brzezinski # Paperback: 240 pages # Publisher: Basic Books; Reissue edition (October 1998) # Language: English # ISBN-10: 0465027261 # ISBN-13: 978-0465027262 You cannot be serious. This guy f...
by ShauryaT
06 Jul 2007 21:58
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: 1962 Sino-Indian War: Declassified CIA Documents
Replies: 206
Views: 110198

Acharya wrote:Creation of failed states is part of the long term plan. E.g. Afghanistan
What plan?
by ShauryaT
06 Jul 2007 04:37
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: 1962 Sino-Indian War: Declassified CIA Documents
Replies: 206
Views: 110198

These deep desire is exploited by the US from 1972 for its own strategic interest. Between 1962 to 1972 US was exploring the real desire of China and its fears. It is a very pragmatic view the chinese have and, I commend them for it. At the end of the day, India and China are competitors more than ...
by ShauryaT
04 Jul 2007 20:33
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: 1962 Sino-Indian War: Declassified CIA Documents
Replies: 206
Views: 110198

What is not really told in the open source history books is the links between US and PRC top officials, US and Soviet leaders. The links are through international power brokers. There are enough material in the internet. IOW: Opinions from sources with no authority. Although there is value to such ...
by ShauryaT
04 Jul 2007 05:58
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: 1962 Sino-Indian War: Declassified CIA Documents
Replies: 206
Views: 110198

Soviets wanted the support of PRC during the Cuban Missile crisis and US wanted to make sure that PRC does not support the SU. Mao extracted a price for not supporting SU during the missile crisis. Mao, certainly took advantage of the prevailing geo-political situation. Kruschev supported Mao in hi...
by ShauryaT
02 Jul 2007 20:24
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion - June 26-2007
Replies: 322
Views: 120701

The Hindu (English) 02 July 2007 New Delhi: The United Nations' Conference on Disarmament ended its second session of the year in Geneva on Friday with all 65 members barring Pakistan, China and Iran indicating their willingness to begin immediate negotiations towards the conclusion of a treaty ban...
by ShauryaT
02 Jul 2007 09:51
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: 1962 Sino-Indian War: Declassified CIA Documents
Replies: 206
Views: 110198

Sure we export. Just ask Infosys, Wipro, TCS, etc. Although we clearly need to expand our manufacturing of goods, but even that's starting to show signs of life. India exports auto parts too, now. Sanjay, My words were clear - India is not an export driven economy. It does not mean, India does not ...
by ShauryaT
02 Jul 2007 09:13
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: 1962 Sino-Indian War: Declassified CIA Documents
Replies: 206
Views: 110198

Clinton got it for Bosnia, Bush got it for Iraq. Both were "wars of choice". In India's case, we're talking about our own home territory, and not somewhere on the other side of the world. When Kargil was attacked, everyone got very hyped up. You are simply making my case here. i.e: War ta...
by ShauryaT
02 Jul 2007 08:00
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: 1962 Sino-Indian War: Declassified CIA Documents
Replies: 206
Views: 110198

Regarding Kargil. We are not talking of individual acts of valor. I am sure there were many many. When a nation 1/7th the size surreptitiously takes territory of the larger nations, what kind of a military response would be considered robust and strong and dare-devil and brave? I am afraid that lar...
by ShauryaT
02 Jul 2007 06:22
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: 1962 Sino-Indian War: Declassified CIA Documents
Replies: 206
Views: 110198

Bide our time?? How -- by ceding land to their active encroachment ?? What do you call this -- the PLO strategy? By the time you've finished biding your time, there will be no land left to us for pursuing a claim on. Sanjay M: First, you will have to concede that your broad statements that India ha...
by ShauryaT
01 Jul 2007 18:49
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: 1962 Sino-Indian War: Declassified CIA Documents
Replies: 206
Views: 110198

Sanjay M wrote: But have we ever shown that we have that resolve? I don't think so.
Kargil.
by ShauryaT
01 Jul 2007 03:01
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion - June 26-2007
Replies: 322
Views: 120701

Shaurya, the NAM is useful. The NAM era ties with African and other nations are allowing India to continue to remain in the negotiating space, otherwise the PRCs economy driven handouts and US etcs powerplays would have limited Indias options by far. The last i caught the news, it was China hosting...
by ShauryaT
01 Jul 2007 02:18
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion - June 26-2007
Replies: 322
Views: 120701

Yes...I demand the same. Give a clear statement that NAM IS DEAD.

But, it ain't happening.
by ShauryaT
30 Jun 2007 19:56
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: 1962 Sino-Indian War: Declassified CIA Documents
Replies: 206
Views: 110198

A We were food defciant as late as 1970s remember that and the shortage of cooking oil to whest to rice etc. It was not easy at all, so in fairness if Nehru had 'Not even a blade of grass grows over there, should be understood in that light' but could it have been better done yes, People could have...
by ShauryaT
29 Jun 2007 09:13
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion - June 26-2007
Replies: 322
Views: 120701

1. The all powerful Soviets. Sure. The statistics of who killed how many on each side and how many aircrafts and tanks were downed on each side, really shows the power of the the all powerful and mighty. 2. Technological capabilities of Soviets were at par with Uncle then. You actually still believ...
by ShauryaT
29 Jun 2007 05:18
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: 1962 Sino-Indian War: Declassified CIA Documents
Replies: 206
Views: 110198

Sanjay: Once the knowledge was out of the tight confines of Nehru's PMO and a few select FM officials - reporting to Nehru, The outcry was from the power influencers, first. That is MP's, Military, Career Officers - so the Dilli Billi crowd. The larger nation was in the dark - till very late. The In...
by ShauryaT
29 Jun 2007 04:40
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: 1962 Sino-Indian War: Declassified CIA Documents
Replies: 206
Views: 110198

No, really, the quotes I'm seeing above cite a reluctant Nehru being dragged to war by some "hawks" -- so I want to know who were the hawks dragging Nehru to war. As you've said, Swatantra didn't amount to a hill of beans, so who had the power to drag Nehru towards war? Don't tell me Nehr...
by ShauryaT
29 Jun 2007 04:33
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion - June 26-2007
Replies: 322
Views: 120701

Uncle view point is don't say Uncle is BSing etc... Either join the BSitters club or shut up, is what it is all about. Re: Arming TSP. Do you have to power to arm my enemies. Can you play with me at intl politics as I play? Do you have the stuffs I have to talk equality.. If I catch your shirt, do ...
by ShauryaT
29 Jun 2007 04:28
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion - June 26-2007
Replies: 322
Views: 120701

John Snow wrote:Nobody is finding fault with uncle for doing what is right for its people dont just BS and arm adversaries of democracies if it doesnt hurt that all. If you have trouble understanding the obvious. I leave it you.
My view is it is not BS, it is a dichotomy.
by ShauryaT
29 Jun 2007 04:21
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: 1962 Sino-Indian War: Declassified CIA Documents
Replies: 206
Views: 110198

Well, that last line sounds like the Chinese were already maneuvering to settle the dispute through force of arms. Did they play a Gulf of Tonkin on us? Our intent did not matter. They had a read of our capabilities and knew that they had the upper hand. Who was the Musharraf on our side? The guy w...
by ShauryaT
29 Jun 2007 04:10
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: 1962 Sino-Indian War: Declassified CIA Documents
Replies: 206
Views: 110198

Acharya, your theory of the Americans encouraging the Chinese takeover of Tibet and wanting to keep the Soviets out of there makes perfect sense Sure it does, While in Korea the US was getting its Musharraf kicked by the Chinese, they were busy supporting the take over of Tibet by China - in the sa...
by ShauryaT
29 Jun 2007 03:52
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: 1962 Sino-Indian War: Declassified CIA Documents
Replies: 206
Views: 110198

ShauryaT: I thought this would be the assessment. But to me it's one thing to misread the enemy's capabilities, and another thing to misread the enemy's intent. So I'm not disputing that we underestimated PLA capabilities, No, no. My read is more than an under estimation of material capabilities of...
by ShauryaT
29 Jun 2007 03:39
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion - June 26-2007
Replies: 322
Views: 120701

Does NAM serve Indian interests? IIRC they were not too helpful after the 98 nuclear tests. Granted, a forum where the US gets bashed by most of the world is useful for psyops purposes NAM doesn't directly serve Indian interests but it is effectively a tool that can be used as a leverage. Otherwise...
by ShauryaT
29 Jun 2007 03:30
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: 1962 Sino-Indian War: Declassified CIA Documents
Replies: 206
Views: 110198

Sanjay M: The naiveness of Nehru in FP needs no further elaboration. My read of the belligerent part is a Nehru, who pursued the policy of forward deployments, without making the necessary sacrifices and investments to prepare and sustain and anticipate the chinese reactions, to such an adventure.
by ShauryaT
29 Jun 2007 03:25
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: 1962 Sino-Indian War: Declassified CIA Documents
Replies: 206
Views: 110198

Read the connection of Divinity school, Mao and George Marshall visit to China before the communist CPC victory in China. Also read the history of CPC and Chaing Kai Shek relationship with US. Read Kissinger book - My WHite House years . His contact with China before 1972 is recorded clearly. Dont ...
by ShauryaT
29 Jun 2007 02:57
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: 1962 Sino-Indian War: Declassified CIA Documents
Replies: 206
Views: 110198

Is there a realistic apparisal of the ---------------- I think the timing of the release of the Indian related parts is psy-ops. It looks like Zhou made deep study of Nehru, Indian political system and tendency of Nehru to ask for help from US during crisis. And looks like he got instruction from o...
by ShauryaT
29 Jun 2007 02:40
Forum: Science, Economics & Technology Forum
Topic: Indian Urban Development and Public Policy Discussion
Replies: 523
Views: 157409

A little radical for Dear Mumbai, I would say. The trick is to let real local governance to kick in. So let Mumbai, charge property taxes and collect other indirect revenue such as sales tax. Let the councillors get some real power and the Mayor the same with a way for the electorate to keep them ac...
by ShauryaT
29 Jun 2007 02:22
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion - June 26-2007
Replies: 322
Views: 120701

There can never be equal partnership between unequals. ..... Forgrt India US equal partnership. This is what the US has to learn, that a big D*** does not automatically give them mating rights with everyone - especially the other big one's such as India, Russia and China. If it wants to lead, then ...
by ShauryaT
29 Jun 2007 01:07
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion - June 26-2007
Replies: 322
Views: 120701

This new hype about 'fellow democracies' is getting to be too much. Wonder what have the democrates to say about this - bet they also subscribe to this strange thinking. Strategic thinking or not, there is nothing wrong in principle with the idea of a liberal democracy based partnerships of governe...
by ShauryaT
26 Jun 2007 06:19
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion - June 9th
Replies: 284
Views: 116993

We have the impending IPI talks, Nuclear Deal is on life-support. To top it the proverbial "Narad" sends the Nimitz which is due to be deployed in the Persian Gulf [the 3rd]. Got to love the timing.. Unkil ki Jai Ho !! 8) Wow, so it really is the 3rd and not a replacement. If true, someth...
by ShauryaT
26 Jun 2007 05:32
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion - June 9th
Replies: 284
Views: 116993

How about declaring an intent to sign in say, five years ? Unkil, ain't biting on that one. Oldest game the Indians have played...our intentions are good but we will not act now....we will sit....sit....sit...sit....till the next treaty for cessation of production of new nuclear weapons has come in...
by ShauryaT
25 Jun 2007 06:15
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion - June 9th
Replies: 284
Views: 116993

The possibility of a new coordinator pushing through an end to fissile material production is creating nightmares in New Delhi and in Trombay, the high table of the country’s nuclear establishment. I am waiting to find the god damn fricking truth, is Arun_S right in his analysis or is India's fis...
by ShauryaT
24 Jun 2007 21:32
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Army History Thread
Replies: 1020
Views: 530565

I am for all threads to be archived - permanently. I am sure admins would have an idea of the cost constraints and if cost is a constraint then let the forum members chip in. Cannot think of any other reason, for threads not to be archived.
by ShauryaT
24 Jun 2007 21:17
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion - June 9th
Replies: 284
Views: 116993

All this until India is accepted as a NWS. In fact, I would encourage other nations to toss China out of those organizations (a job for the NRIs, not the GoI). What purpose has China served within them anyways? It is in relation to this point that such articles need to be collated. There is an easy...
by ShauryaT
20 Jun 2007 08:08
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion - June 9th
Replies: 284
Views: 116993

Acharya wrote:On what condition should India employ first use policy?
Only against Pakistan ! Call their fricking bluff...
by ShauryaT
20 Jun 2007 04:24
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Historical Battles in Ancient & Medieval Bharat
Replies: 360
Views: 212221

Chandragupta maintained a vast standing army of 600,000.
Was the maintenance of large standing armies the exception or the rule for a majority of the early and medieval era Hindu Kingdoms?
by ShauryaT
14 Jun 2007 20:36
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion - June 9th
Replies: 284
Views: 116993

Raju wrote:It's re-run is playing now at the same channel.
Thanks for the info, Raju. I am not fortunate enough to live in motherland and choose to be a geek and not own a TV, here, in the US.
by ShauryaT
13 Jun 2007 19:58
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion - June 9th
Replies: 284
Views: 116993

Also, IF so, then why would MMS bargain for this deal knowing this? Just curious. It is the color of the lens. Nothing less, Nothing more. The general world views form a basis to pursue certain paths. MMS believes in the following: 1. Expansion of the sources of energy is vital to India's future gr...
by ShauryaT
12 Jun 2007 06:49
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News and Discussion - June 9th
Replies: 284
Views: 116993

Today Lok Sabha TV aired an hour long solid discussion on the Nuclear deal and Nuclear affairs featuring Paranjoy Guha Thakurta, K. Subrahmanyam, Brahma Chellaney and Achin Vanaik (DU Prof). I guess it is the most authoritative discussion to be featured on Doordarshan on the Nuclear debate. Anyone ...