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by manjgu
28 Sep 2020 08:32
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Remember that it is not WE who have to stay on those peeks for the winter, in those hellish conditions. Imagine living in a freezebox, where you have to boil water to drink it. A freezer "only" is -18. The chaps at the peeks could face -35 and strong winds. Without helicopters it will be ...
by manjgu
27 Sep 2020 07:40
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
Replies: 5318
Views: 2148250

Re: Indian Military Helicopters

So to sign a contract by MoD with a MoD owned company it is going to take 3 years. Another 1.5-2 years to start deliveries. While our pilots fly in outdated junk and numerous news articles screaming the need to replacement. What a joke. It is not as if IAF/IA didn't know it was coming. You come up ...
by manjgu
26 Sep 2020 10:30
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
Replies: 5318
Views: 2148250

Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Given that civil aircraft have more stringent safety requirements than military aircraft, including EASA and FAA certifications, it will require further funding and development. This is counterintuitive, at least for me. Was under the impression that Mil standards are higher in general. Unless LUH ...
by manjgu
24 Sep 2020 11:01
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

A strong economy will underpin all the scenarios painted above... there has to be big time reforms to kick start economy... desi MIC... more focus on AF/Army..the war will be won/lost on land ..not in the sea ..sea will only see a few battles.
by manjgu
22 Sep 2020 23:30
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

^^^^^ Conscripts Saar. 2 or 3 years of compulsry service. Seen it in CCCP. Added later There is an article in The Newyork Times with headline "Beijing faces rising anger in Europe". True to its reputation it avoided mentioning word "India". Half page article and no mentiong of L...
by manjgu
22 Sep 2020 22:30
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Video shows Chinese soldiers crying as they allegedly head to Sino-Indian border. See the video in the link. This is just trolling/Pys ops, the original video is something completely different, allegedly soldiers crying harder than rudalies because they are about to retire from the PLA. The clip is...
by manjgu
22 Sep 2020 22:10
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Video shows Chinese soldiers crying as they allegedly head to Sino-Indian border. See the video in the link. This is just trolling/Pys ops, the original video is something completely different, allegedly soldiers crying harder than rudalies because they are about to retire from the PLA. The clip is...
by manjgu
22 Sep 2020 08:20
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

BajKhedalwaji - amazing take on this tzutiyapanthi - will rephrase Sun Tzutiyapanti is a treatise towards cloaking Cowardice arising out of weak body, mind, and soul. Every single couplet reeks of desperation borne out of diminutive timidness of that ethnicity. "The great wall" is a testa...
by manjgu
22 Sep 2020 08:19
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

what do they discuss over 12 hr sessions and that too having about 8-10 iterations of these sessions. Isnt it clear, you vacate or not vacate, we vacate or do not vacate, heck even if they want to discuss the map in detail it wont take so many of these long sessions, in a sense this tires out the C...
by manjgu
21 Sep 2020 22:08
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Winch/ziplines operated by hand as well as electric motors are commonly used in such areas. There were a lot of them in most mountain areas few years back, not so many these days. Their use is limited by terrain. They're good enough if you just want to send something across a a gorge or up or down ...
by manjgu
20 Sep 2020 06:41
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

As some one suggested, we should broadcast message in Tibetan and Chinese that any Tibetan surrendering will be allowed in India as refugees and get darshan of Dalai Lama. Diamox taken twice daily ..2 to 3 days before going to heights allows u to goto heights and not have acclimatisation issues ...
by manjgu
19 Sep 2020 21:53
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

https://www.gunnersshot.com/2020/09/sino-indian-logjam-facts-risks-options.html Please read ,analysis of our actions in kailash range, all goosebumps, dhoti shiverers should read before going to bed sleep peacefully the good general says "Mountains offer great manoeuvre space " ..not so s...
by manjgu
16 Sep 2020 10:10
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Regarding Sun Tzu reference earlier, yes it’s true that book is mostly mental floss now. However, deceit - a term that in western and even Indian English usage - and decidedly non-warrior nature. There is this very famous proverb in China that is the epitomy of Cheen as a non-warrior civilization. ...
by manjgu
15 Sep 2020 21:48
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
Replies: 5318
Views: 2148250

Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Tsarkar ji, can you expand on why the military needs emergency purchases. Is it due to poor planning, poor MOD procurement process, or financial constraints? Does it mean that despite assurances by service chiefs that the military remains ready, there are gaps that make the military not battle read...
by manjgu
15 Sep 2020 21:33
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Artillery Corps: News & Discussion
Replies: 3219
Views: 2074777

Re: Artillery Corps: News & Discussion

Would like to know a few things: 1) How many shells were fired from the suspect gun? 2) What was the vinatge of the shell? Year of mfg and the fuze? 3) What are the bore dimension of the remaining intact barrel? 4) What wass the pedigree of the Charge? Was it a quick burn creating too much energy? ...
by manjgu
14 Sep 2020 19:30
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Post september cement does not set .... Sir ji, There are different types(combination) of cement. For the cost, we cannot use that for the entire bridge. But for repairing things, it is well within reach. There are specialized cement combinations that can even SET under water.[/quote Sirji ..u r ri...
by manjgu
14 Sep 2020 18:27
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

The reason why so much of the Qingzang (Qinghai-Zizang aka Tibet) Railway Is built on elevated viaducts is that it is not ground underneath but permafrost . Destruction of the pillars means rebuilding into the permafrost to achieve the stable support, not merely filling in holes and relaying track....
by manjgu
13 Sep 2020 16:00
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

https://www.theindianhawk.com/2020/09/s-jaishankar-set-bottomline-amid-heated-talks.html LAC face-off: Jaishankar set bottomline amid ‘heated’ talks with China This is just an excerpt. There's more at the link. In my opinion the Chinese got what they wanted. That is a photo with Jaishankar and a st...
by manjgu
13 Sep 2020 09:31
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

https://swarajyamag.com/insta/india-china-troops-within-shooting-range-at-spanggur-gap-near-pangong-tso-in-ladakh India, China Troops Within Shooting Range At Spanggur Gap Near Pangong Tso In Ladakh If this is true, it is telling that they (PLAGF) don't have the b**** to initiate an attack directly...
by manjgu
12 Sep 2020 22:40
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1334305/china-xi-jinping-step-down-coronavirus-pandemic-covid19-inquiry-who-australia-brexit-spt China bombshell: Xi Jinping tipped to STEP DOWN from presidency This is speculation. He doesn't provide any proof of something happening. i would post double guard +...
by manjgu
12 Sep 2020 08:33
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

if i was modi , i would have declared we have occupied some of our territory illegaly occupied by china post 1962 war.
by manjgu
11 Sep 2020 21:34
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Reading the " Garbage Times" is a sheer waste of life-time.It is nothing but toilet paper propaganda aimed at gullible barbarians, right now at our country in the hope that we will cower down and mew like scaredy cats. There are only two words that we must send to the shitworms of Zhongna...
by manjgu
11 Sep 2020 21:00
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014
Replies: 4118
Views: 1238052

Re: Su-30MKI: News and Discussion - August 9, 2014

The key difference in recent years giving the PAF much kmproved capability was the acquisition of Swedish Eriye AEW aircraft.This allowed the PAF to refine their tactics for snap strikes/ shots in large number to allow their inferior attacking force to escape execution by our MKIs,which were also n...
by manjgu
11 Sep 2020 16:05
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

what does Xi tler have to show in the October meeting of Party? can he sell the present situation as a victory?
by manjgu
11 Sep 2020 13:35
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

It was me who had posted that earlier. Both the Srinagar Leh route and the Manali Leh route are single lane roads for most part. Both the routes are closed for close to 6 months. So in Summer, there is a rush to induct new troops and weapons from peace areas / plains, de-induct troops having comple...
by manjgu
11 Sep 2020 10:31
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

He is also believed to have told Wang that the Indian Army never tried to transgress the LAC, refuting a frequent Chinese allegation. This bullshit has not stopped? The Chinese never apologize when they enter any area what they consider is their territory, this side of LAC or that side. Then why is...
by manjgu
11 Sep 2020 06:20
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

The Chinis have not committed their airforce in 62, Vietnam war, nor with Soviets. I wonder if they would apply the same tactics to "contain" escalation. PLA might try the 62 tactics but will larger amount of artillery & MBRL. Along with tanks & ATGM. Publicly declare PLAAF will n...
by manjgu
10 Sep 2020 21:14
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

1) occupying more heights gives us additional bargaining chips in the event of a negotiated settlement.. apart from obvious mil advantage if the ballon goes up. 2) if the quad and other EU countries together can impose significant economic costs on chini..not enough to bring them down on their knees...
by manjgu
10 Sep 2020 08:56
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

the one good thing to come out of all this IMHO is both sides are carrying firearms now..no more lathi charges and stone pelting.
by manjgu
08 Sep 2020 23:43
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

is it possible to target these tops with their artillery? Yes hill top positions can be targeted but difficult, India did it in Kargil and have experience the best option is direct fire but chinese dont have space for that in many spots In1962 our arty could not crest the ridge line at rezang.la th...
by manjgu
08 Sep 2020 21:22
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

the guy 2nd from left looks to be out of kindergarten !! this pic is definitely of recent vintage..till last time we never saw this advanced weaponry in PLA hands
by manjgu
07 Sep 2020 18:13
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020- Part 2

One point on logistics problem for the Great Hans in general area of Spanggur : - Almost all lakes there are brackish, being endorheic. - This means they have to tap into some fresh water sources which are not easy to come by. - This means even drinking water needs to be hauled across fairly large ...
by manjgu
07 Sep 2020 09:52
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020- Part 2

and isnt the indus also there albeit a bit far away
by manjgu
07 Sep 2020 09:49
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800373

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020- Part 2

sanjaykumar wrote:Membrane filtration technology is available to turn brackish water into potable water. Further stills at that attitude are more effecticient as the boiling point of water is lower.

There should be no need to transport water.
Plus the snow?? can be melted as well ...
by manjgu
06 Sep 2020 22:04
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 1606450

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

From where/how do the chinese front line troops on LAC get their supplies of food, fuel, ammunition from? Is it from Ngari? How about us? I am assuming since our population centres are closer to LAC and spread across the Ladakh region, we have a more distributed supply of food, ammunition and weapo...
by manjgu
06 Sep 2020 21:57
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 1606450

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

From where/how do the chinese front line troops on LAC get their supplies of food, fuel, ammunition from? Is it from Ngari? How about us? I am assuming since our population centres are closer to LAC and spread across the Ladakh region, we have a more distributed supply of food, ammunition and weapo...
by manjgu
06 Sep 2020 09:27
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 1606450

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

Why do you wan't to push for status quo ante when they are on the back foot. Chinese being chinese will do this again, probably better planned and better trained next time. Losing some ground is temporary. We can't let the chinese go without punishing for their misadventures. Please read those five...
by manjgu
05 Sep 2020 21:26
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 1606450

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

Many tops/heights through out the LAC is with IA (and ITBF...). How many, cannot be disclosed, but the numbers and sectors in the news are a miniscule number. When the COAS said that we are ready for the campaign season, we had completed all our moves. Chinese have nothing left to move to. If they ...
by manjgu
05 Sep 2020 21:00
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020
Replies: 8042
Views: 1606450

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020

I believe the BT top is with IA ..if we go by stmts by ex rgens who are saying PLA cant look into chushul bowl ..if BT top is with PLA they can look into chushul bowl?