Bharat Rakshak

Samir

Yeah, and I love the bit about the "virtually obsolescent F-86 Sabres" (yup, armed with Sidewinders!) - and how much trouble they had against Mig-19s, which didn't fly in in the Korean air war!

Samir

Wow, Qadir has been smoking some very good quality maal. Why he doesn't share, I don't know. Just have a dekko at what this illustrious man has to say about the war: "For fighter planes, relying almost exclusively on virtually obsolescent F-86s, which had been found wanting against MIG-19s by t...

Samir

September 6th, of course, will mark 40 years since the Indian Army crossed the border - sending Ayub Khan into a panic and opening a new front.

Samir

Prem wrote:
Both in '65 and '71, lots of civilians actually crossed the border into Puke Punjab to do some 'good' work by truck loads.

Prem, sorry for being dense, but could you elaborate on this please?

Samir

The request I made to Shiv above actually goes out to all readers. If you do find typos, errata etc, please send them on. We will need them for the second printing/edition.

Samir

Shiv, Thanks for the review - Jagan has pretty much said it all. While our electronic collaboration was unique, it did have this one downside of dumping all the last-stage work on the one author that was in India.

And yes please, do send us typos etc. We can make corrections in the second printing.

Samir

Folks, if there are people here who have read the book, and would like to contribute a review or something, consider entering it at the amazon.com page for the book. It would be much appreciated.

Cheers,
Samir

Link to the page: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/8173046417/

Samir

Krishna, Harry, Ghostrider:

Can you please send me email at samirchopra1 AT yahoo DOT com?

Thanks very much,

Samir

Samir

Harry, thanks for the review. All good points as Jagan notes. The maps issue will definitely be addressed in the second edition. We've already managed to get more info just in the past few months - too late to make it to this edition. if only we could get our hands on battle reports or station diari...

Samir

Harry,

Thanks very much for that review - very good points for improvement. Perhaps in the second edition (after this one sells out?)

Cheers,
Samir

Samir

Harry, I second Jagan - we would love to get a detailed review out the door! Perhaps you can post it on ACIG.org and other forums that you frequent.

Samir

Responding to propaganda claims is a full-time task and authors run the risk of getting distracted from the main story. In this book, we chose not to give the absurd claims made by the PAF much attention. We wanted to tell the story of the IAF men in this war. Its their story, and we saw no point in...

Samir

Harry,

Thanks for the preliminary review, and we'll look forward to the more detailed one. The exclusion of the Sargodha chapter was done because we felt that the refutation of the claims was taking up too much space and it was implicit in our accounts of the various battles.

Cheers,
Samir

Samir

Aha, sorry about that. The ACIG forum is restricted to registered members so you will have to register if you want to check out the forums. So, please register as the ACIG forums are very good value in any case, and worth checking out. It shouldn't take too long - I remember it being a simple page.

Samir

Vishnu,

Would it be possible for NDTV to provide some airtime/coverage/attention to the new Bharat Rakshak book on the 1965 air war (co-authored by the IAF site webmasters)?

www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Books

Please do let Jagan or myself know.

Thanks,
Samir

Samir

In my rush to provide informational links, I forgot to acknowledge those wishing us well above. Thanks very much. The work has been gratifying, and doing it with Jagan has been a treat. Heres to more books on the history of the IAF!

Cheers,
Samir

Samir

Here is the link to the older link on ACIG for discussion on the 1965 air-war (this includes a classic debunking of Ravi Rikhye by Jagan):

http://www.acig.org/forum/viewtopic.php ... sc&start=0

Samir

Jagan has posted an announcement on the ACIG forum as well. BRF members might be interested in discussions that develop here:

http://acig.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=68416#68416

Samir

And you missed this gem:

<Sorry girls, but this job is open to males only!>

Samir

Thanks for the book leads, Jack and Johann. I'll put them on my wish-list...

Samir

I should probably search the thread on Indian Army history for this, but I'm looking for recommended books on the Indian Army's role in Burma.

Samir

Sorry, couldn't resist:

BRadmins = Brahmins + Bradman?

Samir

Guys, can we move this discussion to the General Aerospace thread? When Cope-Thunder starts we can start a separate thread to collate news items.

Samir

The Jag pilots have been drawn from all squadrons. WingCO Rajiv Khera, CO of 14 Sqn, is the team leader. Sqn Ldr Pawan Kumar, senior flight commander of 16 Sqn, is the deputy. The remaining pilots are drawn from 5,14,16,27,6 Sqns. There is a wide variation in ranks in the pilots contingent.

Samir

AM Patney rebuts Army claims

Samir

AM Patney rebuts Army claims on Kargil:

http://in.rediff.com/news/2004/jun/08spec1.htm

Samir

Jagan,

Maybe you should post the COI report on Gadgil in the Gen Aerospace thread as well. Given the amount of discussion that takes place on MiG-21 crashes, I'm surprised there has not been more commentary on the report. I like the idea of making these reports public incidentally.

Samir

Make promotions tougher, GOI tells IAF

Samir

Originally posted by Arun A: India admits it bought used MiG-21 jets I love the tone of this headline. "Admitted", like they were caught committing a crime. Ji huzoor, hamse galti ho gayee, maaf kariye. On another note, I wish the IAF would publish in part or completely the results of the...

Samir

Changed role for Tezpur IAF base

Samir

This is completely off-topic (so sue me), but a comment in a recent writeup on the exercises with the French really hit home: "The French know more about Gwalior Air Base than Indians".

Samir

Thanks very much for the video, Shiv. I like the fact that I'm finally able to *listen* to the LCA. There is nothing quite like the sound of jet engines.

Samir

Jagan, Ashutosh, cy_baru, krishna_kss:

Thanks very much for your replies - seems like we are set.

Samir

Shiv - congratulations on getting Linuxed. May the force be with you. A side question related to CDs: I've been asked by folks in the IAF without high-speed Internet access whether it was possible to get a CD with the entire BR site dumped on to it so that they can peruse it at their leisure, pass i...

Samir

Between garbled press reports, wishful thinking, and wierd unconfirmed quotes, who knows whats happening in this exercise.

Other than the fact that we're tangling in with the French Air Force, and getting hands-on refuelling practice, I'm not believing anything else.

Samir

Waah, waah, what aggressive reporting. Talk about Tigers and all you can come up with is their plans in case they get shot down. Wonderful. Oh, yeah, that sounds really aggressive. Mian, yeh Tiger hai ki billi?

Samir

"Furthermore, unlike in India, military service in Pakistan is a prestigious career, where young men from well-to-do families join." While the rest of Sawhney's piece of inaccurate and bothersome in its own right, this little line gives the game away, and I hope we can save this piece as p...

Samir

And one true legend from that war, that of a Mystere pilot shooting down a Starfighter, didn't make it out till 1988!

Samir

Re: Jag crash at Ambala:

Quoth an IAF pilot:

"Rehani is safe....something must have gone badly wrong with it. I spoke to him, the ac kept rolling left after take off. He took a lot of steps to try and fix it before he ejected."

Samir

Rakesh, Al tbe best for the future. If it makes you feel good about BR, you should know that all the IAF boys I talked to on my latest trip home were very glad to hear about the site, its progress and so on. I sensed a certain pride that comes from knowing that someone is backing them up. I'm not su...

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