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At Galwan India did well because it was the middle of the night and the Indian Army soldiers on the front lines took matters into their own hands. Their bosses and the politicians were fast asleep. When 16 Bihar needed help, other regiments pitched in without any formal orders. True. As soon as the...

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Throughout the world, most politicians, will shout and drown out their own people (called political opponents). But, will never be nasty to the opponents of their nation. China and her satellite nations are the only exceptions. China and they are dictatorial but focused. The rest are democratic and...

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nachiket wrote:Hopefully No. 18 Flying Bullets will take its place in Srinagar in the near future.

What aircraft does No. 18 have?

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Roop, GOI neither has the will nor the resources for an all out conflict. Specially a protracted one, which will favor the CCP anyway. Okay, but under your hypothetical scenario, it is not India but China who will start this war (to teach us a lesson etc.). Once it starts, we have very limited choi...

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arshyam wrote:
vijayk wrote:I have read that Chinese fighter jets spotted in POK. If they are opening a new front, how will we defend?

We can't. Let's go home onlee..

Good. This thread was overdue for a chuckle.

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Option 3. Initiate a border conflict, make it so the other side fires first and you are the “ defender “. Inflict visible and undeniable pain and immediately withdraw to pre April 2020 positions having demonstrated the will and might of the SHA. Simultaneously sue for peace with the withdrawal as a...

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This would have happened even if we were standing on the border feeding EN candy!!! Who / what is "EN"? I presume it's some kind of reference to Chinese troops, but I thought I should check. IAC, I agree with your thoughts -- this whole question of what India's response will be or should ...

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Why do we even need the heights? That is not a rhetorical q by the way. Okay, since it is not a rhetorical question, I'm going to hazard an answer. We need the heights for (presumably) : (a) observation and reporting back to senior commanders before the firing starts, and (b) shooting direct-fire s...

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Keep fighting the good fight y’all! And apologies for the long, very long, post. Don't apologise. Your post and RaviB's are among the most valuable we have seen here in quite a while. However, you'd better prepare yourself for a finger-wagging lecture soon, telling you not to "underestimate th...

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Brahma Chellany blames Modi's naivete in excessive engagement with Xi Xingping and over personalisation of foreign policy. He interestingly compares Modi's visit to China akin to Vajpayee's visit to Lahore as part of bus diplomacy. In general, I have several complaints about Chellany, but here he d...

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Indeed, if it comes through, it'll be the best way to end this MRCA saga. 80 is nearly 3/4th of the original 126 requirement and with Tejas Mk2 shaping up, the IAF has another MRCA that'll be entering service towards the second half of this decade. Agreed, I hope this rumor is accurate. If it is, i...

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symontk wrote:... they lost in 1979 with Vietnam, did it reduce their reputation?

It certainly did.

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Iyersan wrote:CCP and PLA will open the Indian front to check their military readiness for a greater conflict in SCS

Bluntly put, this is complete gibberish! What the hell does mountain warfare against India have to do with naval warfare against the US?

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This account by shiv aroor and Co. Is a very well put together sequence of events that explain all the fragments of news we have heard till date. Yes, it is very well written. Also, note that it confirms what India's MEA said in public a couple of days ago that (I am paraphrasing from memory here) ...

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Shiv Aroor keeps saying that the IA is focused on Pangong Lake fingers. IMO that is a side-show compared to what could happen in the Depsang plains ... I wouldn't worry about it. Shiv Aroor is saying what has been told to him by IA / GoI, i.e. it is a deliberate leak and SA himself is in on it. The...

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The following four YT links are remarks / assessments from four different IA generals (retd.) who have served in this theater and know what they are talking about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La0qngJWls0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6589rl-mTHQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPh_rRtVL2o http...

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https://theeasternlink.com/un-chief-urges-restraint-as-more-than-60-die-in-china-india-clash/ ... It seems the IA aren't babes in the woods after all. ... This was a stunningly ferocious action. The Chinese aren't braying about teaching India another lesson, unhinged and comical. Actually they stop...

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If PLA still has Indians as prisioners, why the hell did India allow chinese helicopters to evacuate their dead & wounded? Why this useless speculation about China holding Indian prisoners? GoI has made an official announcement that there are no Indians missing or held prisoner. Is that not goo...

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The thing we need to understand here is this firing is already gamed by chinese. We should see how GoI responds to this killing. There was no "firing" here. These deaths were caused by pushing/shoving on rocky mountain trails. Soldiers lost their balance and fell down the cliffs, causing ...

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I said all this during Doklam after looking up pure numbers -- distance and bases. The numbers advantages were even greater then. Yes you did. I remember it well, because what you said was so out of keeping with the general thinking on the forum (including my opinion). And the 101 to 122 ratio in 4...

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Our Nuclear posture espouses NFU anyways. Not any more. The original policy of unconditional NFU was announced in the early post-Pokhran years, mostly in a desperate attempt to stave off international pressure regarding nukes etc. Since then (i.e. in the roughly 20 years since that first announceme...

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I have to say, as a personal observation, I am very glad to see the level of pro-active anti-China aggression on these threads. Gone are the days when the majority of BRF members were shivering in their dhotis at the thought of a military clash with China, " arre bhai, the Chinese are ten feet ...

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Guys, ... the quadrilateral grouping is all fine , but how exactly is the US, Australia Japan etc going to help india if push comes to shove ? By bringing military pressure to bear on China from the east and south-east (South China Sea, East China Sea, their illegal artificial islands, etc.). This ...

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There is a school of thought that given the kind of equipping of SF and the Airforce and the collaboration with some nation states we can see a takeout of Pak nuke capability in the time period you mentioned as well as retake of PoK. Take it for what it is worth but came from the mouth of one of th...

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The problem is that 50 years of non alignment has inculcated a deeply held mindset in India that an "alliance" is somehow dirty and distasteful. And even the present GOI is tip toeing around it. Bingo! You have put your finger on one of the greatest psychological hangups of the country / ...

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You've zero Idea about how republicans/democrats function in US. Oh, I have a better idea than you think I do, and apparently a better idea than you. You're living in a dreamworld. No one will take sides with China anytime soon. Really? Check with Nancy Pelosi, the NYT, CNN and MSNBC to see if they...

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Frankly if Shri Modi had ordered F16s in 2016 instead of the Rafale, Lockheed would probably have delivered 36 or 48 by now. Maybe you are right, but it's a pure hypothetical now. The IAF was absolutely dead-set against buying an American plane (and so was most of BRF, BTW :) ), in fact against buy...

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Mort Walker wrote:Further, after the opposition in the US comes in power, they will sanction India severely taking sides with China and Pakistan.

You are only partly right: the Dems are a bunch of Commie-loving scumbags, but they are not going to win the Presidency in 2020. God knows what will happen in 2024.

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so, shukla is darbari and has strong longtime congi connections

Exactly. That is why I always assume that his articles/posts are lies and bullsh!t aimed at embarassing/attacking the BJP.

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They have the superior equipped military which doesn't amount to a whole of lot of beans when it comes to actual fighting. I agree with this statement, but it doesn't address the question of why they scuffle with Indian soldiers using only sticks & stones & fisticuffs -- why no firearms? Th...

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Let me first state that I don't care about Shukla's opinions and analysis. The guy is a thoroughly dishonest, biased Modi-hating hack. I would like to remind everyone that in circumstances such as these (an aggressive neighbour stealing your land a little bit at a time using salami-slicing tricks) t...

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Why do we respond in a predictive manner? Why don't Indian troops open other fronts and occupy five Chinese areas in response to one? I agree. I think the time has come for India to open up a different front, in an area where China is weaker/not expecting an Indian riposte -- say somewhere in Sikki...

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nam wrote:It was a letter from Lockheed Martin. They wanted to sell us F16 and still trying.

Yes, I remember the incident well, in fact it (the letter) was widely discussed/criticised on this forum in the early years of the millennium (i.e. following Tejas early flights).

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basant wrote:An RAF pilot on 114 HU.

Basant, that was a wonderful read. Thanks so much for posting it.

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In response to a question that came up on another thread:

Karan M wrote:The Rafale ISE's are not in public domain, but:

The following YT link claims to list the 13 ISEs in the Rafale deal. I don't know how reliable this is, but I offer it FWIW.

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Just money of 3 rafale can give us a new higher thrust engine and a jet far superior than f-22 You know, I'm all for optimism and all that good stuff, but this is not optimism, it's delusion. Kaveri is still not approved for fighter aircraft but India can pull some kind of magic trick and go stormi...

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Karan M wrote:Astra Mk1 and Mk2 on Mirage 2000 will be more than sufficient.

What are the best-guess dates for Astra Mk2 to undergo: (a) initial flight trials and (b) final clearance, i.e. entry into service ? Is middle of 2025 (over 5 yrs from now) too optimistic for (b) ?

Thanks.

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Aditya_V wrote:Many forget Pakis lost around 5-6 drones in Feb and Mar 2019. We shot some of them on the Paki side of the border.

Hmm, interesting! I didn't know this (i.e. the Paki side thing).

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nam wrote:So now Turkey will make Egypt & Israel... join up to dislodge Turkey from Libya!

India will be very glad to assist.

I strongly hope that you are wrong. India should be very glad to stay the hell out of all these stupid middle-Eastern wars.

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dineshchaturvedi wrote:I am reading about reports of IAF asking Boeing for F-15 Ex. What do you think the chances of it making into IAF are?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gKclNJaPLQ

IMO the chances are very low, but not zero.

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