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by JCage
23 Jan 2001 22:47
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Production of Arjun tank to start soon
Replies: 82
Views: 41550

Re: Production of Arjun tank to start soon

Hitesh,<BR>Got any more info on the Arjun?Does that mean the army IS kinda happy with the Arjun but for the logistics part?
by JCage
23 Jan 2001 22:38
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Production of Arjun tank to start soon
Replies: 82
Views: 41550

Re: Production of Arjun tank to start soon

GD,<BR>You'll be dead by then or are you planning on doing a Rip wan vinkle?
by JCage
23 Jan 2001 18:32
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Production of Arjun tank to start soon
Replies: 82
Views: 41550

Re: Production of Arjun tank to start soon

And i forgot...<BR>The t90 has the shtora 1 Self protection system for use against being targetted by atgms...both laser guided AND wire guided.So the allusion to vulnerability to air launched atgm's is a bit off the mark.<P>The arena goes even one step further...but that is not part of the indian d...
by JCage
23 Jan 2001 18:19
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Production of Arjun tank to start soon
Replies: 82
Views: 41550

Re: Production of Arjun tank to start soon

Somnath,<BR>The Refleks (successors of the svir) arelaser beam guided rounds are atgms with tandem warheads...they are meant to engage far targets~5 kms.The svir was meant to engage till ~4kms.Upto 6 may be carried...cost considerations will vary the loadout too.When the IA originally wanted to upgr...
by JCage
23 Jan 2001 18:04
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Production of Arjun tank to start soon
Replies: 82
Views: 41550

Re: Production of Arjun tank to start soon

Repeat post.....deleted.<p>[This message has been edited by nitin (edited 23-01-2001).]
by JCage
23 Jan 2001 07:16
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Production of Arjun tank to start soon
Replies: 82
Views: 41550

Re: Production of Arjun tank to start soon

Hope they fixed the fcs and the armour holds up...Paul Lakowski had reported that it appeared to be steltextolite fiber composite which doesnt hold up in front of long rod penetrators.<p>[This message has been edited by nitin (edited 22-01-2001).]
by JCage
16 Jan 2001 13:54
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: News, Reports and Analysis: LCA
Replies: 153
Views: 58638

Re: News, Reports and Analysis: LCA

Bobj,<BR>Rest assured!!
by JCage
14 Jan 2001 21:58
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: News, Reports and Analysis: LCA
Replies: 153
Views: 58638

Re: News, Reports and Analysis: LCA

Hi,<BR>Some good news.A day or so back,i,karthik and satish (another BR Lurker http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/ubb/wink.gif )got a chance to converse with a guy in the know about the lca.....<BR>Nandkarni be bloody damned!<P><B>They have done a miracle!!</B>Kota Harinarayana is speaking the truth when...
by JCage
09 Jan 2001 05:43
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: News, Reports and Analysis: LCA
Replies: 153
Views: 58638

Re: News, Reports and Analysis: LCA

Rama,<BR>"In any case, exporting more than this limited number may not be desirable given that HAL will have to fill a hungry IAF too, which may want upto 200 if the LCA lives up to it's promise."<P>I concur..the production capacity of both the alh and the lca will be stretched to its limi...
by JCage
06 Jan 2001 08:05
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: LCA ground run & some other questions
Replies: 101
Views: 59257

Re: LCA ground run & some other questions

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rupak:<BR><B> It's being done on a Tu-16 in Russia.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I thought it was already done.<P>
by JCage
05 Jan 2001 16:46
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: LCA ground run & some other questions
Replies: 101
Views: 59257

Re: LCA ground run & some other questions

Hi,<BR>Austin...at the end of that lamented thread;-),my conclusion was the same...that the phased array for the su30mki~zhuk27.<BR>BTW,the no11m was supposed to be the standard fit for the su27m=su35 which went on to be the su37 with tvc...<BR>The no11m has had a troubled history and one wonders wh...
by JCage
05 Jan 2001 04:16
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: News, Reports and Analysis: LCA
Replies: 153
Views: 58638

Re: News, Reports and Analysis: LCA

Rajeev Kothiyal....<BR>in some reports he's a mirage pilot..in others he's a mig29 pilot. <A HREF="http://www.timesofindia.com/today/05lcap3.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://www.timesofindia.com/today/05lcap3.htm</A>
by JCage
05 Jan 2001 02:54
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: News, Reports and Analysis: LCA
Replies: 153
Views: 58638

Re: News, Reports and Analysis: LCA

Quadraplex fbw is ,iirc,nothing more than quadraplex redundancy....one set of channels/controllers fail,the other(2nd) takes over.if that fails then the 3rd takes over and so on...<P>Note that the above is more sophisticated then our rivals' fc1...it has a single<I> analogue </I> fbw system with a h...
by JCage
05 Jan 2001 01:52
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: LCA ground run & some other questions
Replies: 101
Views: 59257

Re: LCA ground run & some other questions

Austin,<BR>Are you sure that we are going in for the Zhuk-27 Phased array radar?I thought we were acquiring the NIIR NO11m radar.I had started a thraed on this sometime back,but it died a graceful death.<BR>Was it in Vayu or some mag?<BR>BTW,BR states it to be the no11m...other sites claim the zhuk....
by JCage
28 Dec 2000 05:00
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: LCA ground run & some other questions
Replies: 101
Views: 59257

Re: LCA ground run & some other questions

..."Or is it possible that the LCA will have coventional FCS instead of (a more complex) FBW system?"<P>No chance ,as the a/c is "unstable"...it can fly only when the fbw is validated.A conventional electro-hydraulic system cant do nuts for the lca.<BR>
by JCage
24 Dec 2000 22:11
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Samba Spy Case - Justice at Last
Replies: 14
Views: 12588

Re: Samba Spy Case - Justice at Last

Abhishek,<BR>when legal means are resorted,imho they should hold weight...when the evidence itself leaks like a sieve....what then??<BR>The nation is above the individual...true,these gentlemen wouldnt have joined the army otherwise...but,it is often used as a means to cover up the truth.<BR>In all ...
by JCage
24 Dec 2000 22:11
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Samba Spy Case - Justice at Last
Replies: 14
Views: 10468

Re: Samba Spy Case - Justice at Last

Abhishek,<BR>when legal means are resorted,imho they should hold weight...when the evidence itself leaks like a sieve....what then??<BR>The nation is above the individual...true,these gentlemen wouldnt have joined the army otherwise...but,it is often used as a means to cover up the truth.<BR>In all ...
by JCage
24 Dec 2000 18:29
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Samba Spy Case - Justice at Last
Replies: 14
Views: 12588

Re: Samba Spy Case - Justice at Last

These are further links about the subbarao case:<BR>This link even elaborates on how the courts were a witness to the charade carried out by the GOI in the name of the official secrets act:<BR>Justice Ahmadi,one of the judges who repeatedly denied subbarao his rights later on became the CJI.<P>QUOTE...
by JCage
24 Dec 2000 18:29
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Samba Spy Case - Justice at Last
Replies: 14
Views: 10468

Re: Samba Spy Case - Justice at Last

These are further links about the subbarao case:<BR>This link even elaborates on how the courts were a witness to the charade carried out by the GOI in the name of the official secrets act:<BR>Justice Ahmadi,one of the judges who repeatedly denied subbarao his rights later on became the CJI.<P>QUOTE...
by JCage
24 Dec 2000 18:17
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Samba Spy Case - Justice at Last
Replies: 14
Views: 12588

Re: Samba Spy Case - Justice at Last

The Subbarao case is also an example of the vast power wielded by the "security personnel" read intelligence-bureucrat nexus when it comes to protecting their turf and their interests. The SAMBA case and this one are very similar,people being accused of spying and no evidence being put for...
by JCage
24 Dec 2000 18:17
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Samba Spy Case - Justice at Last
Replies: 14
Views: 10468

Re: Samba Spy Case - Justice at Last

The Subbarao case is also an example of the vast power wielded by the "security personnel" read intelligence-bureucrat nexus when it comes to protecting their turf and their interests. The SAMBA case and this one are very similar,people being accused of spying and no evidence being put for...
by JCage
23 Dec 2000 22:23
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Samba Spy Case - Justice at Last
Replies: 14
Views: 12588

Re: Samba Spy Case - Justice at Last

"But once the cover was blown, it was every man for himself. MI officers and other officers as well , were trying to hide that fact that they knew about what was going on."<P>These 2 sentences tell everything...common all over the world especially in india.<P>The samba spying case is a sto...
by JCage
23 Dec 2000 22:23
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Samba Spy Case - Justice at Last
Replies: 14
Views: 10468

Re: Samba Spy Case - Justice at Last

"But once the cover was blown, it was every man for himself. MI officers and other officers as well , were trying to hide that fact that they knew about what was going on."<P>These 2 sentences tell everything...common all over the world especially in india.<P>The samba spying case is a sto...
by JCage
22 Dec 2000 21:53
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Samba Spy Case - Justice at Last
Replies: 14
Views: 12588

Re: Samba Spy Case - Justice at Last

Abhishek,<BR>I suggest that you go through the entire "history" of the case instead of just asking around.The samba spy case is indeed a travesty of justice.IMHO,this case and that of the gentleman who was accused of "leaking" the atv secrets is the same...power without safeguard...
by JCage
22 Dec 2000 21:53
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Samba Spy Case - Justice at Last
Replies: 14
Views: 10468

Re: Samba Spy Case - Justice at Last

Abhishek,<BR>I suggest that you go through the entire "history" of the case instead of just asking around.The samba spy case is indeed a travesty of justice.IMHO,this case and that of the gentleman who was accused of "leaking" the atv secrets is the same...power without safeguard...
by JCage
22 Dec 2000 15:24
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Samba Spy Case - Justice at Last
Replies: 14
Views: 12588

Re: Samba Spy Case - Justice at Last

I salute their courage and determination against all odds.<BR>Such a travesty of justice should never be allowed to occur again.<P>cheers,<BR>nitin
by JCage
22 Dec 2000 15:24
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Samba Spy Case - Justice at Last
Replies: 14
Views: 10468

Re: Samba Spy Case - Justice at Last

I salute their courage and determination against all odds.<BR>Such a travesty of justice should never be allowed to occur again.<P>cheers,<BR>nitin
by JCage
15 Dec 2000 03:53
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Modern Torpedoes and Countermeasures
Replies: 14
Views: 11795

Re: Modern Torpedoes and Countermeasures

Austin,<BR>GREAT ARTICLE.A lot of effort i'd guess!well worth it.<P>Nandai,<BR>"Prahri, nice Haiku, those japanese sure knows how to put it, simple, yet elegant"<P>they did start it off, it didnt they. http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/ubb/smile.gif <P>"In Blossom Today,Then Scattered,<BR...
by JCage
14 Dec 2000 21:54
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armour Technology Thread
Replies: 22
Views: 12822

Re: Armour Technology Thread

Guru,<BR>The al khalid unfortunately for us,is not a *paper* tank!It has a significant component opf ukrainian stuff..plus tsp(!?)+ chinese..'<BR>Anyway,so as not to hijack this thread http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/ubb/smile.gif <BR>....i am still "going through"...the earlier posts..<BR>w...
by JCage
14 Dec 2000 06:16
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armour Technology Thread
Replies: 22
Views: 12822

Re: Armour Technology Thread

up!Guru,Nandai where are u chaps? Image<BR>cheers,<BR>nitin<BR><p>[This message has been edited by nitin (edited 13-12-2000).]
by JCage
10 Dec 2000 02:07
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armour Technology Thread
Replies: 22
Views: 12822

Re: Armour Technology Thread

Hi,<BR>thx for the pdf file!I downloaded it just a coupla minutes back..sure,its great.I just hope to sit down with them once i get a bit of time.<P>"nitin the original T-90 has a cast armor turret , this reduces the effectiveness compared to RHA to ~ 90% while using a layered rolled plates all...
by JCage
10 Dec 2000 00:36
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armour Technology Thread
Replies: 22
Views: 12822

Re: Armour Technology Thread

Hi Paul,<BR>The vlad has 90 cm ke?the t90s has65-71cm including k5,right?This is for the front turret?<BR>..methinks, i am way off the figures here.. <P>nitin <p>[This message has been edited by nitin (edited 09-12-2000).]
by JCage
09 Dec 2000 18:55
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armour Technology Thread
Replies: 22
Views: 12822

Re: Armour Technology Thread

Hi,<BR>I will be going off on a tangent here so bear with me http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/ubb/smile.gif <P>A heat projectile literally burns its way through armour,a jet from the tip of the projectile is focused on the armour...and the tank is toast,right?<P>so,the xcd standoff basically refers to ...
by JCage
08 Dec 2000 22:37
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armour Technology Thread
Replies: 22
Views: 12822

Re: Armour Technology Thread

Paul,<BR>THANKS!!!I was away from br for a coupla days..and wow Image<BR>This thread should get us some real hard knowledge!<BR>nitin