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by member_20317
30 May 2012 23:37
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 992883

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

I wonder if Narmada Man spoke PIE :rotfl:
by member_20317
30 May 2012 23:35
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 992883

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

^^^ LOL. This goes deeper The project was (taken from CV of Veena Mushrif-Tripathy). As a collaborator in the project titled "Palaeopathology and the Indus Civilization". This project is funded with a Fulbright‐Nehru Senior Research Fellowship with United States India Educational Foundatio...
by member_20317
29 May 2012 20:46
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 992883

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

Manishji. PIE is completely hypothetical. NONE of its words exist. There is no existing candidate language with all the words that "should be there" in PIE. And you forgot this Shiv ji, Them of the superior scholarship kind admit they dont need a 'Why' to explain the PIE in the sky. Quote...
by member_20317
29 May 2012 20:32
Forum: History & Current Affairs Archive
Topic: Distorted history- Causes, consequences, remedies
Replies: 4186
Views: 65176

Re: Distorted history- Causes, consequences, remedies

Fukuyama, Francis. The Origins of Political Order: From Prehuman Times to the French Revolution Macmillan. THE INDIAN DETOUR How India’s early development diverged from China’s due to the rise of Brahmanic religion; varnas and jatis; tribal society in early India; peculiarities of Indian kinship; t...
by member_20317
29 May 2012 11:34
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 992883

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

My god, Jhujar ji the link you have provided is a real eye opener. The comments bazi is worth collecting for future generations. Our children must be shown the effect of the ‘Scholars’ on these countries. These new age ‘Buddhu’ want recognition equivalent to ‘Bhagwaan Budh’ for their ordinary drivel...
by member_20317
28 May 2012 20:32
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 992883

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

The first two paras say it all When it comes to accounts of ancient history, there is no chapter as fascinating as the one on India. When Europe began looking at India's enormous literature in the early nineteenth century, it came across material that was very old. Much older than the epoch of 4004...
by member_20317
28 May 2012 20:29
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 992883

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

In the absence of insight of what a vedic ritual might possibly entail it is easy to reach an inane conclusion of the type which says: From D. Anthony "Horse, Wheel and Language". Poets occupied another respected social category. Spoken words, whether poems or oaths, were thought to have ...
by member_20317
28 May 2012 16:05
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 992883

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

@Shivji, Looks like the Linguists by now have exceeded even the Greek Philosophers. They used to draw epicycles to explain every single retrograde movement they saw and virtually the whole of west is to this day caught up in these epicycles. What is there that has not been done by ideas that engende...
by member_20317
27 May 2012 10:31
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 992883

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

I think the situation of languages like Greek is probably analogous to Malayalam. Malayalam, even though having 80% Sanskrit vocabulary, has roots which are independent of Sanskrit. This is a really important observation. Pranav I hope you know Malayalam well. If 80% of the words in Malayalam are r...
by member_20317
26 May 2012 23:15
Forum: History & Current Affairs Archive
Topic: Distorted history- Causes, consequences, remedies
Replies: 4186
Views: 65176

Re: Distorted history- Causes, consequences, remedies

"Buddha's birth and archaeological data (Giovanni Verardi, 2004)" http://www.docstoc.com/docs/121305094/Buddhas-birth-and-archaeological-data-(Giovanni-Verardi-2004) A discussion on the above paper at Rajiv's group. *************************************************************************...
by member_20317
26 May 2012 22:46
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 992883

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

Bhai log, please excuse my articulation in bringing to your kind attention my own ideas. So here it goes. Following is how Brhaspatiji elsewhere has explained the idea of awareness. B ji - Jnana is awareness, but more complicated than how it is ordinarily understood as. One example : I "see&quo...
by member_20317
26 May 2012 13:08
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 992883

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

Most of us Indics are not too terribly concerned with things Christian. But apparently there is a lot of debate on Bible itself. On what it means, what it could have meant, a comma here, a bindi there. Even page foldings. If you begin to read this debate, in about half an hour you will get a strong ...
by member_20317
25 May 2012 22:50
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 992883

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

:rotfl: I knew it Shivji you have fallen into a trap. If ever I ask you whether you know a reasonable way out of deemed dividend taxation troubles would you be hitting the books? What is being given does not allow you to reverse calculate what you dont know then why would it allow you to calculate t...
by member_20317
25 May 2012 15:53
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 992883

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

Manish ji, elsewhere you have concluded that a itinerant bard is going to be a more cost effective image consultant compared to a sedentary bard. Perhaps you want to say that an itinerant bard implies travel to more places implying meetings with many people. Both implications I am afraid I find hard...
by member_20317
25 May 2012 15:16
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 992883

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

venug garu: If you have doubt on chariot's use for warfare, please read the Rgveda sūkta 06.075 which is specifically a war ballad and among other prayers, mentions the warrior standing on the chariot 'rathe tiṣṭhan'. There are numerous other references to warriors on the chariot - but I'm mentioni...
by member_20317
24 May 2012 22:52
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 992883

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

Kaksivan gets a 100 necklets, 100 horses & 60000 cows :eek: and a stick for this dog :evil: . Is there any song in RV for, "envy of the gifts". The donor of 60000 cows should have many more in his goshala. I never donated more than 1% of my yearly earnings. Of my family wealth it must ...
by member_20317
24 May 2012 17:37
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: PRC Economy - New Reflections : Dec 15 2011
Replies: 3942
Views: 529410

Re: PRC Economy - New Reflections : Dec 15 2011

It all boils down to the one decade head start China has in its liberalisation drive. And note the time lines hold despite the lack of proper governance in India. This is actually why I sometimes am afraid that we may be just too much like the people we claim we dont like. We could be loosing our i...
by member_20317
24 May 2012 10:19
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion
Replies: 4358
Views: 515947

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

The standard size of a shipping container is 40 feet or approx 12 meter and can technically carry 40~50 tonnes. With some adjustments can we actually fit Agni 6 inside similar containers and make them road mobile across our country? mango indians may not know what is inside, what looks like a stand...
by member_20317
23 May 2012 23:27
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 992883

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

First this: Yes, techniques of oral preservation - including permutational recitations (jaṭāpāṭha, ghanapāṭha) were developed; but these techniques were much later than the composition of Rg. If they were older, than at least some of the hypothetical migrants would have remembered the oral tradition...
by member_20317
22 May 2012 23:41
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 780009

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread

Mods I am posting the following in full since I could not find it on this thread. Needless to say your prerogative to keep it else... http://www.claws.in/print_article.php?recNo=1055&u_id=7 The Centre for Land Warfare Studies (CLAWS) Article No.: 2054 Date: 21/01/2012 Indian Artillery: The arm o...
by member_20317
21 May 2012 20:52
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Bakistan: Emirate of New-clear Inquilabi States-Bojitiv Newj
Replies: 2847
Views: 327212

Re: Bakistan: Emirate of New-clear Inquilabi States-Bojitiv

Jhujar wrote:Image
Hoor sighted
Mujahid taraste rehte hai, iss Hoor ka Rass peene ke liye

Hoor! are you out of your mind. Thats Quaid e azam. Fatwa against you, you Kaffir. suggesting unnatural sex for Bakistanis. Hajar laanat on you.
by member_20317
21 May 2012 20:38
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 780009

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread

And one such gun destroyed would mean Sharad ceremony for all. :)
by member_20317
21 May 2012 20:25
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 992883

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

Now that you mention Brihaspati ji could it be that the 26 R1A1 cases in sudoor siberia (that Manish ji is talking about) be a burial place.

Also how many times do I need to read your post at 19:53 before i get what it means. Or is it just time for me to give up. :)
by member_20317
21 May 2012 20:17
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 780009

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread

schowdhuri ji, I am really unaware of the western model. In fact I have only seen artillery in pictures and vedios. But I have seen and been in the mountains. The Paki scene is something that I believe is already understood across the board quite well. Reasonable armour country. 155 is a logical gro...
by member_20317
20 May 2012 23:48
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 992883

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

:rotfl: the intermediate people who took them to Europe [these cannot be Nordic R1A1's since they originated in Europe onlee] either did not survive their journey to Europe and all died off immediately after handing over their cows to the natives at this point New Delhi Virus can be brought in somew...
by member_20317
20 May 2012 23:37
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 780009

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread

120 mm tank gun would throw about a 22 kg HEAT shell 30% bigger then a 105mm, with a better range too. So in the plains it sure doesnt make sense to rely on 105 mm. Mountains are a different thing altogether. 105 mm can do a quick switch from direct fire to indirect role and would cost perhaps a fra...
by member_20317
20 May 2012 23:21
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 780009

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread

The truck mounted one. The one that was rejected by quite a few at BRF.
by member_20317
20 May 2012 23:19
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 992883

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

ManishH wrote: So even though the geographic distribution of lactose intolerance (figure above) actually supports AIT, I'm skeptical about using actuall occurrences of lactose intolerance.
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ManishH wrote:I'm skeptical about using actuall occurrences of lactose intolerance.
:-?
by member_20317
20 May 2012 23:07
Forum: Science, Economics & Technology Forum
Topic: Indian Economy: News and Discussion (Apr 1 2011)
Replies: 3372
Views: 419502

Re: Indian Economy: News and Discussion (Apr 1 2011)

South and Western India has taken us as far as we can go. With bigger GDP's these states will naturally slow to 5%-6% growth. We need the Bihars & UP's & MP's & NE & WB's of India to start growing at 10%, to start increasing their GDP size. Even Bihar needs to bulk up before it crow...
by member_20317
20 May 2012 20:40
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 780009

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread

Bah the net ate my post. Austin ji, LGF with manual load does 5-6 rounds per minute for upto 10 minutes in intense fire mode, I wonder if auto loader can improve too much upon this. And I am asking for a view not telling mine. Sarabpal.s ji, 1) One of the reason adduced for IFG/LFG usage in Mountain...
by member_20317
20 May 2012 15:02
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 780009

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread

I didnt notice that at first. May be they are very confident of the recoil-damping mechanism. Bad decision i guess, Muzzle brake may help in this case but what about the low rate of firing high cost of the system that this design will come with. Also sarabpal ji direct fire videos of the system are ...
by member_20317
20 May 2012 14:43
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Military Multimedia - Indian Armed Forces
Replies: 2238
Views: 578228

Re: Military Multimedia Content

Shivji, but for your recommendation, I was going to avoid that video. I ended up downloading it :)

The sound level has to be lower to really enjoy it.

Also did you notice how Su-30MKI looks much more menacing then even the T-50, as both jump up to the camera level.
by member_20317
20 May 2012 13:17
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 992883

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

>but latest archeological trends indicate that the more likely origin - pre-early urbanization moved from the eastern sector to the Sindhu-Saraswati western sector It may be so but the evidence is not strong enough so we must wait for more evidence. Please provide link to the document you base your...
by member_20317
20 May 2012 12:37
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 780009

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread

Hawkeye caught my attention as being a great idea untill i noticed the way the whole vehicle shook with every firing. This thing will spend most of its time in the works for suspension repairs. Besides such a small vehicle would hardly be able to deploy some sturdy struts. Again unlike the mortar th...
by member_20317
19 May 2012 22:54
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Artillery Discussion Thread
Replies: 3882
Views: 780009

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread

What is the installed capacity for dumb shells 155 mm & 130 mm?
by member_20317
19 May 2012 00:01
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 992883

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

RamaY ji these are just musings. The following link, perhaps posted earlier in BRF is much more well rounded in its argumentation. While the whole paper is making an effort to do justice to the available evidence and is worth reading, but if you really want to turn fast the Conclusions section itsel...
by member_20317
18 May 2012 23:32
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 992883

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

Theo ji, in the Zebu map you have posted, the darker parts are India, Yemen, South of Saudi Arabia and Horn of Africa. These are also the parts that are greener compared to their respective surroundings. But then again these are also the parts that are separated by the narrowest of straits. Could it...
by member_20317
18 May 2012 10:12
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 992883

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

Note that even these genetic lines far predate Kurgan peoples who leave Archeological evidence only from 4000 BC with classical migration as late as 2000 BC. Per AIT, Kurgans from 2000BC to about 500BC completely replaced entire European lineages, swamped North India and also produced completely di...
by member_20317
18 May 2012 01:02
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 992883

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

And a declining diversity of R1A1 lineage should indicate movement north westwards in a period well before 10.6 kya right? In which case it means genetic movement is before the dates of written Indic Philosophical texts as accepted by RajeshA ji. Implying thereby that genetic migration was independe...
by member_20317
17 May 2012 10:25
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 992883

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

RajeshA ji, while I am with you on every thing but I believe we should seriously consider the request put up by ManishH ji. I also want Itihaas, Genetics, Astrology, Astronomy, Zoology, Botany, Studies of Ancient Technology & Military, Grammer, Geography, Earth Sciences, Darshan, Demographics as...