Bharat Rakshak

TonyMontana

I see only three reasons for this behavior of CPC, 1. Either its hiding something from its own population under the cloak of preserving unity and stability. I don't know what they're hiding. So we're both guessing at this point. 2. CPC does not trusts the intelligence of average Chinese and feels t...

TonyMontana

I also don't think, we should be in the business of trying to convert others to liberal democracy. That's their problem, their issue. This is also the GoI policy. Be it CPC or KMT, they both would have gone about in a similar way if the national interests were involved. A Mao or Deng could have bel...

TonyMontana

I could jot down a few, but if you are all prisoners of CCP and love your prisons, nothing I say would stay long in the air, before it is shot down. But here is an idea. What you need is a bigger and better Bhagat Singh with Chinese efficiency! Any interesting question is: Why does Indians want any...

TonyMontana

Now that's funny! First, don't let any alternative to CCP build up. So even as no alternative exists, because they never let them exist, that alternative is not simply incomprehensible due to the lack of Chinese vision and imagination, the object of that incomprehensibility, which does not exist, h...

TonyMontana

^^ Montana Ji, if the Chinese population really wants stability and unity then why so many protests, why is government so afraid of freedom of speech and free information, why does the CPC needs to use force to suppress them. Its the higher echelons of the society which want peace and stability so ...

TonyMontana

Anyone who does not see this is either very naive or is in deliberate denial for an ulterior purpose. No one said that is not the case. All I was trying to do was point out to some posters that there's no 100,000 visible protests against the central leadership. Which implies, as you said, that the ...

TonyMontana

Tonyji, For all your gyan and bluster on China, I have a small question. When will CPC stop creating these myths about chinese empire? There was no such thing as empire. The so called empire existed behind that wall onlee. The current regime has extended the boundaries some thousands of miles ahead...

TonyMontana

In short, something nasty is brewing up across the river and we can all... Sure. But if you dig a bit further you'll find that these demonstrations are mostly aimed at the local level corruption/wrong doing. In fact, a lot of these demostrations are asking the central government(CCP) for interventi...

TonyMontana

If you are as knowledgeable about China as you claim, you must be aware that the CPC and the PLA was a very small and negligible fraction of the Chinese population for a long long time before it could capture power due to specific circumstantial vacuum. It may seem as if China now no longer has a v...

TonyMontana

Are you that sure about the level of dissidence being only confined to a "few" Tibetans, Uyghurs and hardcore FLG (I was expecting that coming from such illustrious "revolutionary" heritage and experience as that of the CPC overwhelmed Chinese society - you would be more worried...

TonyMontana

This was part of other material forwarded to me by a "dissident" and I am not quoting the other parts to protect the source. This footnote is for TonyMontana ji - who appears to talk of the homogeneous Han/Chinese identity that solidly desires the CPC and PLA to continue. Maybe you would ...

TonyMontana

That attempt at dilution will be one sure fire way of inviting that very consequence supposedly sought to be avoided. I don't get this. Are you using the Islamic example? Where having muslim population within your society causes terror attacks? How does diluting the Tibetan population within China ...

TonyMontana

I waiting and watching with fascination. Gives me something to do while I wait to kick the bucket within 50 years. :D Interesting analysis. I can't help but agree with you. I now have the opinion that it is indeed hard to try to "out-populate" Tibetans with Chinese. So you are correct, Ti...

TonyMontana

Maybe Mongolia today. Russian Far East tomorrow. Next week Taiwan/Korea. Next month some south east Asian countries. And so on. Oh my gosh, sounds like some of the Nippon crazies of 1930-40s. They also wanted a complaint Manchurian. You know just for raw material and good business. But since the ya...

TonyMontana

If you look back at history - just "draw a line" 200 years ago - you find that a small Island off Europe went and occupied most of the world including all the warm and fertile parts. Are you telling me that all that the Chinese managed to do in these 5000 years was occupy Xinjiang? That i...

TonyMontana

shiv wrote:I draw the line at where there is water and oxygen. And that too only as long as I am alive. I plan to be dead within 50 years.

I don't get the reference. Is it a "earth and water" reference from 300?

TonyMontana

Unfortunately, democracy in our country has been misinterpreted to mean that anti-nationals like Dhoti Roy, Geelani etc can bray aloud. We must emulate China when it comes to dealing with such traitors. If the law does not allow the govt. to do this through legal channels, the security agencies mus...

TonyMontana

What this implies is that Chinese regimes have to constantly be engaged in a war against its own people to maintain the pretension of "unity" - another kind of example of waging war not for geopolitical gains but survival. This is the angle that Indian leadership so far have not used agai...

TonyMontana

The posts on "Peaceful Consolidation of Indian Subcontinent" still have some way to go. I also think, you may be reading the above in isolation, ignoring the context in which the proposal is being made. My only question at this stage is this. Are you trying to justify this "peaceful ...

TonyMontana

Tibet, by nature of it's geography is vital to the security of India. Water, highground, resources..etc Tibetans are culturally close to Indians. But people might use tibet as a launching pad for attack on India. Better safe then sorry. China by the nature of her size and historical regional influe...

TonyMontana

Vow -- such specious Logic !! 1. Japan attacked China during WW2 -- Yet China has not attacked and Occupied Japan .. :oops: China was weakened by a declining empire. We did not have the capability, then. 2. Mongols over-ran China --- But But Mongolia is Independent ... :oops: Again. Historically, C...

TonyMontana

Exactly! because the world does not revolve around the interests of the Hans only. Other people have rights to exist and to flourish, and until they have not done anything wrong to you, you don't have the right to touch them. You touch them today, enforce your culture onto them, occupy them, and to...

TonyMontana

the chinese light pattern neatly marks out the isohyet - the boundary between wet china and dry china, ie where there is food, and where there is none - and therefore the boundaries of the han civilisation . not to mention the brightly lit coast and the dark interior marking the income fault lines ...

TonyMontana

I am not laughing. I am skeptical for the long term. It will be a tougher job to colonize Tibet than it was to colonize North America. Look how much Australia has been colonized. No shortage of oxygen in Australia. See the degree of colonization of the Atacama desert in Chile. China's huge populati...

TonyMontana

My suggestions were merely directed at neighbors whose elites have shown a consistent tendency to try to undermine Indian territorial integrity, Indian sovereignty and India's security interests by inviting outside powers who threaten India . India's attitude towards neighbors is pretty much reacti...

TonyMontana

Wow. Very, very heartening. Jai bhaarath. The problem is holding control over these area. By the nature of the Maoist, they will shy away from any direct comfrontation. Would the 60,000 extra security forces stay in the area? What happenes when they leave? More importantly. Where did the Maoists go?

TonyMontana

If fact this is one good reason why India need not invade Tibet. China is "fighting nature" even more then Western civilization. Nature is a good fighter. It is fascinating to watch China fighting nature. For some people it is an indication of China's greatness and they fear China. For ot...

TonyMontana

The CPC is in the business of giving all Chinese "jobs" to do. Tibet is a "job" for the Chinese. The only question to what level India needs to ramp up the CPCs paranoia about Tibet without frittering away men and material in actually trying to occupy Tibet. China will likely bu...

TonyMontana

There has been considerable influence of concepts which happened to evolve in India on cultural and ideological sphere of China. There is nothing inferior about taking up certain ideological memes from some other place and adapt it to one's environment. My thoughts exactly. It shows apparent lack o...

TonyMontana

...Though the firing lasted for more than an hour , yet the Indian troops did not retaliate and remained restrained... ...They said that Pakistan troops opened heavy fire using RPG at Indian forward post Nangi Tekri at around 5.30 pm on Sunday and one army jawan identified as Mourya Sachdev of 17 M...

TonyMontana

I guess you dont know Chinese mythology. The concept of dragon by the Chinese is quite different from the one in West where Saints get to become one by slaying them. If you have time go see Mulan to get an understanding! I'm quite aware of the Chinese Dragon Mythos. But with all BRF's talk of lizar...

TonyMontana

Well the Tibetan example does not support any claims of "promises" of "freedom as tributary state". Touche! But I contest that the annexation of Tibet is from a era long since gone. Too difficult in today's geopolitical environment to legitamately obsorb another country. A puppe...

TonyMontana

If India is trying anything to make my scenario happen, should she at all reveal what she is doing? Maybe I am relying partly on the Chinese to make it happen, may be not entirely! Maybe the idea is to help the Chinese to make it happen! Let's see! By the way, if China is making it so apparent as t...

TonyMontana

In summary: 1) Indians are not trying to expand their territory 2) Others are trying to expand into India 3) Guerilla war is the easiest and safest route to take for expansion into India given that peaceful migration and hot war are least likely to work. Conclusion: We are going to have to fight ca...

TonyMontana

So the proposal is to integrate India, Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan, Sri Lanka and Maldives as well as Sindh and Baluchistan into a singular political union. As another poster has mentioned. There isn't currently any internal drives that favour such a union in these countries. So in order to integrate...

TonyMontana

India would have to change how it is perceived in the neighborhood. Every transgression by a neighbor should be forcefully punished . Every politician in the neighboring countries, who goes against India's interests should be mercilessly brought down, politically or otherwise , and those politician...

TonyMontana

ramana wrote:Here is oneliner to understand the new PRC.

"PRC has morphed into an allidragon!"

Everyone is fixated in thinking that its still the old benign dragon.

Can a dragon truely be benign? A dragon by its nature is gonna ruffle some feathers around his roost.

TonyMontana

Tony, Your posts are heavy on opinion, and thin on facts and analysis of those facts. About the only thing they have going for them is the way they draw attention to your Chinese-ness as a distinct quality in contrast to (almost) everyone else's Indian-ness. It doesn't matter how often you say &quo...

TonyMontana

If you don't want to be treated as a troll please do not openly or tacitly give the impression that you can somehow act as spokesman for a billion Chinese Mainlanders, or for the CPC. I take particular offense to this. How many "in my humble opinion" do you need in one of my posts? When d...

TonyMontana

"Thoughts?" Troll.... Stop trolling me then. Please try to add a higher level of value to the discussion if you are going to insist on posting quite so much. If you can do that people will take you much more seriously even they dislike or disagree with elements of what you say. If that me...

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