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by Karan M
03 Apr 2010 11:17
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
Replies: 3938
Views: 1470296

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

BHEL - total R&D expenses - 690 crores, or about 150 million dollars, out of which capital expenditue is 12 crores (!)...Translates to about 2.5% of turnover...Its BTW gone up from 2.17% of sales in the previous year! In any case, given the negligible capital expenditure, I can only make one co...
by Karan M
03 Apr 2010 10:36
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
Replies: 3938
Views: 1470296

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

I am not asking about the IP of DRDO, but of BEL. AND IP does not mean you need to invent every screw of the system. If you want to set this as the narrower limit, BEL has IP in several products, including in production items such as ESM systems, and of course systems programs for all tri-services ...
by Karan M
03 Apr 2010 10:07
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
Replies: 3938
Views: 1470296

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

No, I am not looking for arguements for arguments sake. I am interested in Intelectual property of BEL, period. It need not be in defence sector. Claiming that they are 'instumental' in the success of Samyukta or Rohini or Revathi will not add any credibility to your arguement nor will questioning ...
by Karan M
03 Apr 2010 09:52
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
Replies: 3938
Views: 1470296

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

I was doing an internship at BHEL 10 years back . Most babus and workers alike would just drink tea and eat paans. The designs were flowing in from their European partners (Siemens, Alstom etc.) and the engineers at BHEL (on which 100's of crore of R&D is spent) just signed at the bottom and ga...
by Karan M
03 Apr 2010 09:49
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
Replies: 3938
Views: 1470296

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

To say however, that BEL has no R&D to speak of....is just staggering .. Mrinal JI, Which of the above in your long list, is 100% BEL Intellectual Property. Please do not use qualifiers and adjectives. I am asking this question as I want to know, not to get in to arguement. Again, I am looking ...
by Karan M
03 Apr 2010 09:39
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
Replies: 3938
Views: 1470296

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

Re BHEL As posted above, BHEL for decades worked on sub critical boiler tech transferred from USSR/US/Czech, and then floundered heavily when the new generation super critical boilers became par for the course...Till a few years back, BHEL had a near "monopoly by diktat" on all supplies t...
by Karan M
03 Apr 2010 03:45
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
Replies: 3938
Views: 1470296

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

Sum-ji No fury only surprise, that such statements are made.. I picked BEL, as this forum is a defence focused one, and BEL operates primarily in the defence sector. Even the statement on BHEL was incorrect. There is a good reason why the Indian Navy and MOD chose BHEL to participate in naval gunner...
by Karan M
02 Apr 2010 19:26
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
Replies: 3938
Views: 1470296

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

"Well, BHEL has close to zero capabilities in in-house R&D..To expect them to have R&D on naval guns therefore is a bit stretched...Ditto BTW with BEL - never did anything beyond screw drivering, and sometimes simply stamping ("made in BEL, India") imported stuff..." Unf...
by Karan M
26 Mar 2010 06:07
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
Replies: 4208
Views: 1120268

Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector

The reference to US policies was with regard to security issues(which the Americans are notoriously twitchy about) not with regard to scale or composition of their defence industry. Penetrating the US market is obviously not a feasible idea today. Clearly you didnt get the point so let me restate. ...
by Karan M
26 Mar 2010 03:26
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 829185

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

Some gentlemen held that Arjun was copy of Leopard2A4. That simple chart shows there are differences between the two tanks with Arjun having edge in some areas. Another point is that Arjun is compared versus a tank whose mobility was better than those of later variants, which added armour but did no...
by Karan M
26 Mar 2010 02:44
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
Replies: 4208
Views: 1120268

Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector

Let us please stop comparing the US to India or applying the US experience to India. Unfortunately, we are nowhere close to where the US is. The US spends more than the rest of the world combined on defence, and its R&D capabilities are world leading. It makes penetration of the US market, very ...
by Karan M
26 Mar 2010 01:46
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
Replies: 4208
Views: 1120268

Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector

IMHO, 100% FDI is a grave mistake by the GOI, if allowed and is thanks to the lobbying by certain pressure groups. Even with 49% FDI, there were concerns by groups that: - Local Indian firms would reap huge windfall from aerospace and defence offsets (with over $ 5 Billion from the MMRCA itself) - F...
by Karan M
26 Mar 2010 01:40
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: MRCA News and Discussion
Replies: 3861
Views: 1256573

Re: MRCA News and Discussion

IMHO, 100% FDI is a grave mistake by the GOI, if allowed and is thanks to the lobbying by certain pressure groups. Even with 49% FDI, there were concerns by groups that - Local Indian firms would reap huge windfall from aerospace and defence offsets - Firms would have to share critical technology wi...
by Karan M
26 Mar 2010 01:35
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 829185

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

Fidel, The chart is not wrong. They are referring to the Leopard 2A4, combat weight 55.15 tons exactly as in the chart. http://www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/mindef_websites/topics/Weapons/leopard/techspecs.html If you would have looked more, you would have found it. 2A4 model is somewhat visually simila...
by Karan M
24 Mar 2010 02:04
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
Replies: 4208
Views: 1120268

Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector

In the first place, pointing out the documented shortcomings of an organisation does not translate to "ranting". Exactly - so hopefully you will not have any issues with those of us raising pertinent questions about the Army procurement system and its documented shortcomings. If the CAG s...
by Karan M
24 Mar 2010 01:35
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
Replies: 4208
Views: 1120268

Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector

I wonder why DRDO did not change guidance methods with Trishul when it was facing so much difficulty with 3 beam guidance. How has Israel got barak and Russians/Soviets got SA-8 to work? From open sources it seems that Maitri is another Brahmos or Dhruv in which everything is foreign except the lab...
by Karan M
24 Mar 2010 01:26
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
Replies: 4208
Views: 1120268

Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector

This is the DRDO and R&D thread. If that R&D goes awry, and is subverted in a manner which undermines the safety of jawans through an act of commission of a DRDO employee, I think that that news is important enough as a stand alone to be here. My contention is that the DRDO requires greater...
by Karan M
23 Mar 2010 02:32
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
Replies: 4208
Views: 1120268

Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector

^^ Nowhere have I called the Army names and nor do I do ad hominum (?) attacks on the Army or condone them. I support the Indian Army (who wouldnt). I replied here, because it is one thread I visited on doing a quick scan of all the topics and there was a IGMDP discussion about which I knew somethin...
by Karan M
23 Mar 2010 02:22
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: MRCA News and Discussion
Replies: 3861
Views: 1256573

Re: MRCA News and Discussion

L1 is a bane in defence procurement. I hope AC RK Dhir & team select the best of the lot, any one of which can meet all our needs.
by Karan M
23 Mar 2010 02:13
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: C-17s for the IAF?
Replies: 3924
Views: 744132

Re: C-17s for the IAF?

Gilles, very interesting story about the Airbus and Cuba. Would you have any links?
by Karan M
23 Mar 2010 02:11
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion
Replies: 2936
Views: 1026499

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

Gentlemen, If I may, I believe all this talk of "flying in swarm, having artifical intelligence and choosing which target to attack" is just a big myth, which came about due to some speculative text, and is then reported by everyone including Janes and the authoritative naval weapons guide...
by Karan M
23 Mar 2010 02:03
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
Replies: 4208
Views: 1120268

Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector

^^^ Mrinal Sir, You have been posting awesome stuff here. My respects. Regards, Ashish. Thank you! As a newbie, if I stepped on any toes, my apologies. But lack of time and some other matters force me to be type as fast as possible. Please also excuse my occasionally poor English and grammar, I do ...
by Karan M
23 Mar 2010 01:39
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
Replies: 4208
Views: 1120268

Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector

Mrinal, thank you for your reply. I will begin by saying, that to say that something doesnt deserve a reply, and then to proceed to give one, while enshrouding us in a warm cocoon of self awarded moral superiority, is, if I may say so with the greatest respect, disingenuous, and also illogical. Wit...
by Karan M
22 Mar 2010 21:35
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
Replies: 4208
Views: 1120268

Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector

Secondly, It is a significant achievement that three beam guidance has been perfected. I will definitely try to access and read the paper referred by you. I do share your point of view that if development was continued 2005 onwards, when command guidance was perfected, we could have possibly master...
by Karan M
22 Mar 2010 21:23
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
Replies: 4208
Views: 1120268

Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector

Posting a person to another establishment is done to avoid him influencing the outcome of investigations in the establishment under question. Further action is taken under GOI rules and procedures. Judging an entire organization by the actions of one rogue element is also without merit. Lets take fo...
by Karan M
22 Mar 2010 00:31
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 829185

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

Many thanks Rohit.
by Karan M
22 Mar 2010 00:08
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion
Replies: 2936
Views: 1026499

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

"^^^ Yes the Russians do advertise about the product when it is part of export list , We even found specs of PAD RF head which was published by DRDO in some exhibition. Journals like DRDO DSJ provides more information and specs are released , thankfully they do not find its way on mainstream m...
by Karan M
21 Mar 2010 22:40
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread
Replies: 4001
Views: 1031937

Re: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread

Why dont you read the articles posted before crying? Also, apply your own common sense. You have two eyes and the post tells you what to look for. The engines are not in line with the inlet, so those cannot be fan blades. They are displaced horizontally and vertically from the line of sight of the i...
by Karan M
21 Mar 2010 22:08
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 829185

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

..... I was not aware of the cost cutting thing wrt tank holding per regiment. I guess, that is why the number of Arjun/Regiment is 62. @62 tanks per regiment, the number of MBT required will easily jump the 4,000 mark. Hello Rohit, can you give a look at the questions I asked about the light tank....
by Karan M
21 Mar 2010 22:06
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread
Replies: 4001
Views: 1031937

Re: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread

Radar Blockers: Aviation Week & Space Technology Stealth Engine Advances Revealed in JSF Designs, 03/19/2001 DAVID A. FULGHUM/ORLANDO, FLA. and WASHINGTON "Radar blockers" or "stealth intake devices"have been developed for Boeing's F/A-18E/F and F-22 and are even being improv...
by Karan M
21 Mar 2010 21:54
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread
Replies: 4001
Views: 1031937

Re: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread

"But looks like This is Fan blade indeed. Its a real heart broker." Again, how do you know this is a fan blade and not a radar blocker? What visual differences can you find between a radar blocker and a fan blade? Apply some logic to this issue as well. 1. The engine is not directly aligne...
by Karan M
21 Mar 2010 21:01
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion
Replies: 2936
Views: 1026499

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

The Russians publicize details about their systems far more than India, but in Russian language publications, to a level of far more sensitive details. Pillai does not mention system details but Russians even advertise seeker performance, lock on details. The reason Pillai talks about Brahmos is bec...
by Karan M
21 Mar 2010 20:03
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread
Replies: 4001
Views: 1031937

Re: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread

F/A-18 E/F Radar Blocker

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by Karan M
21 Mar 2010 19:57
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread
Replies: 4001
Views: 1031937

Re: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread

They appear to the the F/A-18 E/F approach. The F/A-18 E/F has radar blockers (appear similar to the form of inlet blades) placed well ahead of the intakes. The F/A-18 E/F (clean) RCS is stated to be superior to the E/F Typhoon and other European aircraft. PAK FA has edge alignment as well, which sh...
by Karan M
21 Mar 2010 08:14
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 829185

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

quote:Somnath "Mrinalji, There are vast gaps in force levels in lots of other areas as well - starting with not having enough BPJs! Thats not the point..The point simply is that the IA (at least to me) seems to favour rapidly building up numbers of a known platform so that they can ensure a sor...
by Karan M
21 Mar 2010 07:09
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 829185

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

quote: "somnath": The biggest reason probably though is the fact that neither the govt, nor the Indian Army really thinks that a large scale armour battle is redundant in the threat scenario faced by India...The Cold Start literature is reasonably unanimous on the following axioms: 1. Quic...
by Karan M
21 Mar 2010 05:52
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 829185

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

Rohitvats, Interesting points raised by you in this thread. Would like to hear your insight on - - Why the Indian Army is going for light tanks now - What would they be used for and by whom - Their likely area of operations - Any personal comments/insights that you may have vis a vis what they shoul...
by Karan M
21 Mar 2010 00:40
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 829185

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

Austin quote:"Nuclear environment" A key fact of nuclear environment is operating in closed tanks, where ergonomics, crew comfort are of critical importaance. Arjun interior was designed for Indian crews, and on youtube you have a tank crewman of Arjun from Army saying "this tank is g...
by Karan M
21 Mar 2010 00:16
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 829185

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

Austin quote: "But better tactics , training , logistics and over all anti-armour superiority ( not just tank vs tank ) will win the day for IA , if we ever see a great Tank vs Tank battle in a nuclear environment" How will Indian have drastically different tactics to drastically affect co...