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GeorgeWelch

The access to western technology was/is a figleaf. MMRCA TOT level was at 60% with 50% offset - it wouldn't even match Su-30 (at 73% as of last year). But the west had different tech that you couldn't get from Russia. The decrease reliance on Russia was plain & simple tied to serviceability iss...

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Karan M wrote:Maitya, the reason for MMRCA was to hedge against Su-30 and basically compensate for lack of serviceability

I thought it was to get access to Western technology, decrease reliance on Russia and boost falling squadron numbers

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Snehesh Alex Philip ‏@sneheshphilip 3 hours ago India does not have adequate numbers to fully execute an air campaign in two front scenario, admits IAF #IAF says it is concerned with the low service ratio of #Sukhoi fighter aircraft #IAF says it needs much more MMRCA type aircraft than the 36 #Rafal...

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why further two myths in one post? each has been debated to death countless times. A hundred craft of all vintage have been operating a hundred plus sorties a day on average for nearly six months. Not with EMALS The US version is a massive development project that's been going on for over 20 years ...

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Really Philip you need to stop digging up old news that is irrelevant.

The F-35C landing problem that you keep highlighting was already fixed over two years ago and fully verified over a year ago

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When the much touted US assistance on an N-powered EMALS CV was first reported Again, reactors for a carrier were never on offer. cats adding enormously to the cost Cat operations are more expensive, both for the cat itself and the planes (F-35C costs more than F-35B) and additional training and ce...

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but honestly, do you think it makes sense to consider EMALS without n-power? As you say, it is the natural follow-on, so what's the point of offering to talk about EMALS without nuke propulsion? Are we supposed to be such idiots to want to build such an energy intensive tech powered by gas turbines...

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vishvak wrote:If we want to just increase numbers, why not build brand new Mig 21s? One aim must be to increase production rate to 32/year as someone has suggested earlier.

Because they aren't being made any more, so you'd have to create an entire supply chain from scratch

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ragupta wrote:Wishing that the current imported strategy ends with the limited purchase of Rafale and Pakfa.

What good is a limited purchase of Rafale?

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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-b ... RW?rpc=401

Boeing would receive well over $1 billion in new aircraft orders as it seeks to extend production at the company's St. Louis facility.

2 SH FY17
12 SH FY17 'unfunded priority list'
14 SH FY18

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Everything, including the 29K, is limited by the ski jump Not the F-35B. 850 km combat radius on internal fuel. It depends on how long your flight deck is. F-35B needs about 800ft + ski jump + wind to take off at max weight. Anything less and it will be limited and weight (fuel and/or ordnance) wil...

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Austin wrote:Also I think the carrier with ski jump means you cant fully exploit the Rafale , so options are limited to what IN has purchased

Everything, including the 29K, is limited by the ski jump

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http://www.livemint.com/Politics/Xak3Zj4G7S4GgLoldRHk8M/Govt-said-to-expand-Rafale-warplane-deal-before-Francois-Hol.html The nations have also resolved what equipment, systems and weapons would go into the jet http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/why-indias-deal-for-36-rafale-fighter-jets-is-still-being-...

GeorgeWelch · Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015 what ToT is included?

what ToT is included?

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of course the ultimate reason the u-boats were never going to win the war is that even if the UK was knocked out, the Soviets still would have steam-rolled over them . . . With the western & southern flanks secured and no Allied strategic bombing campaign to contend with? Doubtful. you see the ...

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Warning from the past.Hitler ignored his navy and neglected the role of his subs,and sealed his fate. Indian Navy,take note please. first of all it would be wrong to say Hitler neglected subs. From the outbreak of war, when he wanted new naval construction to be the highest priority, to the end, wh...

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Base cost of the SH is $50 million. Base cost is useless for follow on orders. It is calculated by the total capital expenditure divided by the number of units. At the moment the USN is not paying $50 Million for each Super Hornet (the last ones they bought). The 2013 F-18E/F order adjusted up to 2...

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Pentagon Asks Congress to Reverse Decision to Add 12 Super Hornets for Navy That's the Secretary of Defense (ie the Obama administration), not the Navy. The Navy's request hasn't changed, and the Navy has lots of friends in Congress (as does Boeing). Meanwhile every country that had the option of t...

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Fortunately for us, it won't be 50% cheaper. [RAAF:- SH: A$150 mil, F-35A: A$190 mil (both figures at 2015 prices - excl. A$1.4bn in base upgrades not relevant to India)] Those numbers are comparing different things. Base cost of the SH is $50 million. Base cost of the F-35A is still over $130 mill...

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For 36 that is not a major concern. No one is placing a 126 aircraft order or even a follow on order anytime soon Exactly why the Rafale is unsuitable for the IAF and the SH is the right choice. If you want to attribute the Australian Indian Purchase of the Super Hornet Rafale to Boeing's Dassault'...

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If it were this simply your Next Generation jammer would not be carrying humongous pods but just 10 of these lugged around using a cable. The ALE-55 is a self-protection jammer, the NGJ is a stand-off jammer, they serve very different roles. A towed decoy no matter how advanced it is is still limit...

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A lot of emphases on EW can be countered because equally agile nodes are available to air-defense makers and you cannot not be agile as a jammer because that leaves you vulnerable to HOJ seekers ... That is a very curious argument you make. Basically you're saying that all those integrated jammers ...

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http://www.baesystems.com/cs/groups/public/documents/document/mdaw/mdm5/~edisp/baes_019923.pdf You act like the SH doesn't have built-in jamming capability, which again is nonsense. It does not. The Super Hornet has Electronic warfare protection as a countermeasure against a launched weapon. The Spe...

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brar_w wrote:
Incorrect.

I suggest you read up on it. It does precisely what you say it doesn't.
From the developers website

That is the ALE-50. I said the ALE-55.

Completely different product from a different company despite the similar name.

Try again.

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Incorrect. ALE-55 Go back and read up on it and the difference between an acquisition radar jammer and a towed decoy. The Towed decoy is a matter of last resort against an incoming SAM, while the Spectra and the Falcon Edge like systems are designed to confuse the larger acquisition radars on the g...

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IJT The IJT has gone through weight gain at clean weight 4250Kg and MTOW of 5400Kg from HAL website. Sankum all planes show a weight increase between "clean" configuration and fully loaded (MTOW= Max Take Off Weight) configuration. That is no more weight gain that a schoolboy gains weight...

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Nobody in their right mind would opt for the SH over the F-35. http://breakingdefense.com/2015/03/ew-fighter-trends-could-save-boeing-growlerhornet-line/ Pentagon leaders are pushing hard to keep up the momentum of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. Many in the Navy, though, still look longingly back a...

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Incorrect. Those ranges are idealized and nothing close to reality , especially with Growler support. Also there is JASSM. And you base that (Bold portion) on what exactly? Reality. Ranges are always given in idealized conditions and the real world is never ideal. It also makes certain assumptions ...

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- the USN has only the JSOW for stand off land attack, they did not procure any JASSM after walking out of the program I didn't say they did. But it is an option that is available if they feel the need. They don't feel the need. Which should tell you something about their level of comfort with thei...

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The SH and JSOW cannot get to a fight against a near peer especially when the engagement ranges of larger S300+ and S400 radars are in the 400 km region and the SAM ranges are pushing to the 200+ Km as well. Incorrect. Those ranges are idealized and nothing close to reality, especially with Growler...

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It'll only be marginally cheaper than F-35 I wouldn't call 50% cheaper 'marginally'. No 'the same' can not be said about the Rafale & Tejas because the requirements for two in their home markets are nowhere near complete, unlike the USN which wants no more new SHs. New orders don't matter. If y...

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And yet you said nothing about the USN relying on the USAF, which is nonsense. The writing is on the wall. The USN has no kick down the door or first day attack platform until they get the Joint Strike Figther towards the end of this decade. Incorrect. That is in fact what the SH + JSOW + Growler d...

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incorrect I can debate this all day. And yet you said nothing about the USN relying on the USAF, which is nonsense. In fact, that's why they created the Growler program, so they could handle it by themselves. No one is going to buy the Rhino now unless they can't afford 5th generation capability Li...

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Incorrect. The F-35 replaces the original Hornet, the F-35 and SH are supposed to serve side-by-side for years to come. Irrelevant as far as its Indian prospects and further production in general, is concerned*. I would have thought that was obvious from the context. It's perfectly relevant because...

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Successive CNO's have driven the Naval aviation doctrine away from first attack to being strike platforms that come in once the USAF has sanitized the area for them to operate in through its Air Superiority figthers incorrect The USN built an aircraft in the Super Hornet that works ONLY for them an...

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SH of course. A type that's been rendered utterly irrelevant by the F-35. Incorrect. The F-35 replaces the original Hornet, the F-35 and SH are supposed to serve side-by-side for years to come. The only feasible replacement is the Tejas Mk1. A type that's been rendered utterly irrelevant by the F-3...

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Philip wrote:So what will fill the yawning gap of 160+ aircraft for which we've small change in the pocket?

SH of course.

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http://www.financialexpress.com/article/economy/iaf-keen-on-us-scorpion-aircraft-offer/130244/ IAF keen on US Scorpion aircraft offer After asking state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL) to stop work on the intermediate jet trainers (IJT), the Indian Air Force (IAF) is now keen on the US offer of Te...

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In contrast, where is the Rafale going to fly "low and fast and penetrate", to Yunan provnce or Guizhou province at the most. What is Yunan province in the overall scheme of things for China, its something like Agartala being wiped out for India or maybe Dibrugarh. To hurt China and to be...

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Rafale: Costly today - but is the future supply of spares and immunity from sanctions built into the cost? I don't have the data to answer this question Let us be honest, sanctions would only matter if they happened during a war with China, and if there's one country that would be willing to bend o...

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