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The Sunday Guardian article - very well written overall, but it is the details that sent a thrill down my spine: First, it was a brigade level assault (let's now call it what it actually was). This was known though from previous articles. Now it gets exciting The assault brigade (which contained SFF...

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Thanks Ankit. Phurchuk La offers pretty good + protected access to the ridge line. It will permit a sustainable presence on that ridge for Indian forces; I suspect protecting access to that pass must have been the major priority of the preemptive operation. Yula La is a bit to the east of the zig za...

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Ankit Desai wrote:
You sure Rezang La's coordinates are correct ? Right of international boundary ! and too far from Requin La.

-Ankit

Yes, I must have gotten a wrong set of coordinates for Rezang La. Here's the correct set, right to the east of Rechin La: 33°24'50"N 78°52'29"E

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Wikimapia is a goldmine -coordinates of important passes in the Spangur Tso area copied below. Kind of makes sense, but note that in this case Requin La is to the left of Rezang La - when looking eastwards. Rezang La: 33°24'50"N 78°52'29"E <-- corrected later Requin La: 33°25'6"N 78°5...

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But my confusion is because GE puts Reqin La on the Western side of the ridge line. I can understand it if it were on the Eastern side. If we don't already have control over the entire Tsaka La road that connects Chushul and Dungti (which Reqin La abuts), we have bigger problems! So I assume that t...

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OMG - that operational map, notice a yellow circle with 27 in it. Looks like location of Patrol Point 27!

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@anoop - Well, it does not hurt to underscore every signal domestically as well as internationally. Indian media are going to be very closely monitored by everyone, and this piece on ITBP is clearly being played up by multiple media outlets. Some like Nitin Gokhle are upset that ToI released what is...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrZ6bLUAzF0 That interview underlines the sorely lacking need for a host who is even remotely listening to what his guests are saying, instead of probably what his producer is saying in his ear or his voices are saying in his head! 4 times his guests said that there ...

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IIRC I read somewhere that there are 65 odd Patrol Points from KKP to Chumur... the article below from print mentions that PP 27 to 31 are in the Spangur Gap area... IA holds 30 dominating heights in the Spangur Gap area I like how cleanly the LAC is depicted in the above article - Kala Top is just ...

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In this image, the yellow and orange markings are very significant . The markings are noticeable even on the north bank of Pangong Tso, and the colors correspond to known Indian and Chinese positions. Given the markings, note what no one in media is talking about - the markings to the northeast of K...

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TOI reporting that ITBP has now reinforced SFF in the Kala Top area https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/itbp-men-now-hold-key-positions-near-black-top/articleshow/77941669.cms Let's add a couple of passes to our knowledge - Phurchuk La pass is the one from where our soldiers seem to be getting...

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Rezang La was a defeat seared into our collective memory. The Chinese too lost 100s in capturing it. History was overturned overnight, apparently without a shot being fired. So we need to think deeply about why such a monumental achievement is being underplayed. I believe that there is a larger purp...

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^^^ Kadi Ninda doing what he does best.

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There are many good reasons to doubt the reliability of US support for India, and many good reasons to not doubt it. But only one reason matters: China has asked US to butt out of this dispute. So now US is forced to take India's side, because if it does not the whole world will say that it is frigh...

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@manjgu - I have a post several weeks ago on Ane La, Piu La and Tratsang La. Rolling down Ane La or the other two passes would enable IA to threaten Fort Khurnak, which is way to the east of Sirijap (Finger 8 ) and on the AJ line aka India’s border with Tibet

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Per Telegraph India, IA has "occupied" a Chinese camp. Now, towards the east of Black Top there is a pass that connect the Pangang Tso with the Spanggur Tso. There is a track across this pass that connects the southern bank of Pangang Tso with the Chinese base at Spanggur gap general area...

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Appointment as CAG speaks to the level of trust Modiji has in GC Murmu - this is no demotion, unlike how The Print is spinning it. Murmu will now be in the vital position till after the next elections. Yet another major institution recovered from the Lutyens Mafia

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Jai Siya Ram!

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https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/india-moves-squadron-of-missile-firing-t-90-tanks-to-last-post-near-karakoram-pass/story-h4LtB6PZXtiYpMadupySlK.html India moves squadron of missile-firing T-90 tanks to last outpost near Karakoram Pass The remarkable thing about this article is the detail ...

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... my frnd climbed apsarasas complex as part of army mountaineering expedition ( when i am back in delhi will try to post pics which he had shared) ... he said from the top looking towards shaksagam pass is a sea of snow and is totally glaciated..vvv hard terrain... for any kind of movement... whi...

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The wisdom of appointing a seasoned bureaucrat as the LG of JK is now becoming clear - the way to eradicating terrorism is through regulatory and administrative reforms, not through enhanced CT ops. Those are already as good as they can get, but are only firefighting at best. The solution to permane...

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Thank you for pointing that out! I started noticing the correlation between positioning of newly raised IA divisions in the NE and major lines of communication, and I was hoping to see something similar for 39 Div based in Yol which is going to need as rapid a deployment as possible from now on The ...

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... 1) Which retd. generals said that YIP? any links 2) I checked your theory with someone from IA ( retd)..he said no LARGE body of troops on foot can make it into siachen from north ( its a heavily glaciated area ) Till which point is the motorable road as per u?? as per him u can enter siachen t...

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^^^ If the balloon does go up, my fondest wish is that IN does a number on Djibouti. They can keep pitching tents on Finger 4 till kingdom come Aren't the Chinese perched on Coco islands? A quiet operation to clear that area would be better. The naval strike should be as loud and public as possible...

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^^^ If the balloon does go up, my fondest wish is that IN does a number on Djibouti. They can keep pitching tents on Finger 4 till kingdom come

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How do such morons become professors?

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Here's a historical tidbit that give a lot of insight into the geographic connections: In 1965, the legendary Chewang Rinchen was tasked to protect KKP in case the Chinese tried anything funny during India-Pak hostilities. At that time, Turtuk and Chalunka were with Pak (Rinchen captured them for In...

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Why do retired IA Generals keep saying capture of DBO would fatally weaken India's control over Siachen Glacier? One of the optical illusions of geography is that we think of Siachen Glacier as being at the source of the Nubra River, and we think of Karakoram Pass as that huge triangle away from it...

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In the statement by the chairman of the railway board, he mentions 2025 as the deadline for the line up to Bilaspur. He then states that sanction has not been given for the line beyond that point. Regarding this line, I am hoping that at least the line from Bilaspur gets extended to Mandi and then t...

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I left out the biggest timing consideration of them all - the Covid crisis. India is only now entering the most dangerous phase of community outbreak. Not the best time to get into a panga with a country that does not display the same level of concern for ordinary citizens

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There is more to timing a response than just weather. There are huge additional considerations, including preparing the country for the economic aspect of worsening India-China relationship and making sure that the current cultivation season passes off without a hitch. Right now, a bountiful harvest...

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I hope people here appreciate the deep symbolism behind the Raksha Mantri's visit to Ladakh. Among other things, he was right there on Pangong Tso, probably where his line of sight included Chinese incursions. Anti Modi posters like Rs_singh are making fun of it. Calling it "politicians doing ...

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I hope people here appreciate the deep symbolism behind the Raksha Mantri's visit to Ladakh. Among other things, he was right there on Pangong Tso, probably where his line of sight included Chinese incursions.

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^^^ An interesting question to ask is, when would it be most advantageous to be aggressive? May, or a few/several months later?

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I believe Gen Narasimhan is a member of NSAB in charge of China. CSG is different and he might also be part of it. Not sure

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Were we caught napping? Gen Narasimhan mentions in the interview with Mr Gokhle and Gen Anbu that “we picked up Chinese formations but could not match their speed of movement towards Finger 4”. Given that the Chinese have a metaled road while we have a precarious foot track, this is not surprising. ...

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I am reading Tanvi Madan’s “The Fateful Triangle”. Very interesting book overall, and I came across a startling revealation - USA blocked the sale of Viggen aircraft to India. This was from a memo of a conversation between US Secretary Cyrus Vance and Chinese FM Huang Hua, so this is as official as ...

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Here's another map which predates the 1962 war. One can see where the original border was. Also, note the origin of the map. Draw your own conclusions. http://legacy.lib.utexas.edu/maps/ams/india/ni-44-09.jpg Thank you! Close to intersection of lines LM2 and 9 is Sajum Camping Ground. Mt Sajum is o...

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However, you haven't addressed my concern about the existing Chinese ability to concentrate forces, even armor along the Indus River valley. To prevent them from over-runing Demchok, we have no option but to fight them with armor there. As far as getting the armor there, I notice some roads and int...

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YIP, Thank you again for providing food for thought. Here are some of my own: Why are those two passes (marked as Na-La Shan Kou and Dumchele La on the map) critical for the Chinese when they have a black top road passing along the Indus river valley on the West Bank of the river @Anoop To understa...

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