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by manjgu
25 Dec 2020 09:34
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Replies: 7956
Views: 2254711

Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch

if Reko Diq is indeed the promised 'gold pot' then 6B USD is small change for Chinis to shell out for a 100 yr lease..no questions asked ! ? distress sale
by manjgu
10 Dec 2020 20:27
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Pakistan Armed Forces: News & Discussion
Replies: 2343
Views: 1026236

Re: Pakistan Armed Forces: News & Discussion Thread

https://twitter.com/TheWolfpackIN/status/1336214147994972166?s=20 ---> Report: US wants PAF F-16ADFs to move out of PAF Base Bholari and not to participate in ongoing Pak China air force exercises. The jets can return only after exercises are over and Chinese leave. someone posted a pic of the part...
by manjgu
07 Dec 2020 19:01
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Military Flight Safety
Replies: 3363
Views: 893842

Re: Military Flight Safety

I hope he died the moment the plane crashed... struggling in the sea is terrible. Shocked the beacon, locator is not activated automatically on contact with water? any gyan on this aspect?
by manjgu
07 Dec 2020 18:54
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: CT & COIN Operations in India: News, Images and Discussion
Replies: 2896
Views: 834085

Re: CT & COIN Operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

my reading is people coming from rural/smaller towns tend to have more conservative values/ more sanskari !!! anyway a matter of debate.
by manjgu
07 Dec 2020 14:04
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: CT & COIN Operations in India: News, Images and Discussion
Replies: 2896
Views: 834085

Re: CT & COIN Operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Let me add that this inherited mindset disappeared progressively with each war fought by the army of Independent India Yes. You put it better than I would have in describing the Imperial mindset and its change over time. IA pre independence, was sheltered from the civilian population and encouraged...
by manjgu
04 Dec 2020 21:11
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: CT & COIN Operations in India: News, Images and Discussion
Replies: 2896
Views: 834085

Re: CT & COIN Operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

IIRC , initially RAF went for daylight raids with horrendous losses ...the ops were stalled and night ops started. accuracy was sacrificed for safety , the argument being RAF will do area bombing so accuracy is not important
by manjgu
04 Dec 2020 20:41
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: CT & COIN Operations in India: News, Images and Discussion
Replies: 2896
Views: 834085

Re: CT & COIN Operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

1) thank you for the correction. .steeped. the reasoning as explained to me by someone long ago is that British army was reluctant to take casualties and material losses being a smaller nation( low population) / horrendous casualties during WW1 and previous wars and other societal reasons and was t...
by manjgu
04 Dec 2020 09:28
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: CT & COIN Operations in India: News, Images and Discussion
Replies: 2896
Views: 834085

Re: CT & COIN Operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

1) thank you for the correction. .steeped. the reasoning as explained to me by someone long ago is that British army was reluctant to take casualties and material losses being a smaller nation( low population) / horrendous casualties during WW1 and previous wars and other societal reasons and was th...
by manjgu
03 Dec 2020 15:15
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: CT & COIN Operations in India: News, Images and Discussion
Replies: 2896
Views: 834085

Re: CT & COIN Operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

To add to what Sachin posted: We have traditionally been risk averse, at the strategy / top leadership level. That was not a bad thing, when we had nothing to fall back on if the risk did not work out. Our armored division advancing into the Sakargarh bulge in both 65 & 71, was risk averse. In ...
by manjgu
02 Dec 2020 21:52
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: CT & COIN Operations in India: News, Images and Discussion
Replies: 2896
Views: 834085

Re: CT & COIN Operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Deans ... long deployment in CI duties makes an army risk averse as there is tendency to avoid civilian casualties and self casualties as well. any collateral damage brings -ve publicity. the need to win hearts and minds is at the cornerstone of CI ...which is a risk averse strategy. normal cycles o...
by manjgu
02 Dec 2020 10:08
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Replies: 10196
Views: 2183895

Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

but when Punjab Govt has made its own laws to counter the centres farm bill , why is there a dispute? 1) its clearly politically motivated. Capt amrinder is saying please dont do ur agitation in Punjab... go and embarras BJP in delhi. but to say its khalistani motivated will be stretching it too far...
by manjgu
02 Dec 2020 09:54
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: CT & COIN Operations in India: News, Images and Discussion
Replies: 2896
Views: 834085

Re: CT & COIN Operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Army's role is to defend and fight all threats. With terrorism being our constant war, it does not make sense to keep the army away from it. There are arguments to the contrary, with warfare evolving, you need the army to evolve to meet those needs. We have a million man professional army and there...
by manjgu
02 Nov 2020 19:33
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019
Replies: 3885
Views: 1875516

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

I dont think tsarkar meant ICY stuff is a deal breaker.. i think he was explaining modern manufacturing processes wrt planes.
by manjgu
02 Nov 2020 14:02
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019
Replies: 3885
Views: 1875516

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

And conformity to designed tolerances can be there in parts built to different standards and specifications. TRUE !! OT ... I was reading somewhere that engines of japanese cars built in USA were not as smooth as original japanese engines. as long the parts machined in USA were within the specified...
by manjgu
02 Nov 2020 10:04
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1802093

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

phillip...there are igloo type lightweight habitat which is the most often used habitat. i guess with sudden influx of so many troops finding enough igloos is not easy so the tents. but igloos will replace tents if deployment continues.
by manjgu
31 Oct 2020 21:34
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019
Replies: 3885
Views: 1875516

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

so the non ICY are used for training and testing?? because if they are non ICY they need to be based near the factory or else they are a maintenance nightmare?
by manjgu
31 Oct 2020 20:55
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019
Replies: 3885
Views: 1875516

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

So what happens to non ICY airframes ( non standardized) when standardized production starts?
by manjgu
31 Oct 2020 14:17
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Armenia Azerbaijan Conflict - 2020
Replies: 163
Views: 46079

Re: Armenia Azerbaijan Conflict - 2020

if chinis were so super duper with drones they would have used them by now.. unfortunately war is not so antiseptic that u can sit in the comfort of a/c command bunkers and win wars with drones without suffering own casualties. drones though promising tech ( and should be adopted) will not prevent ...
by manjgu
31 Oct 2020 12:31
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Armenia Azerbaijan Conflict - 2020
Replies: 163
Views: 46079

Re: Armenia Azerbaijan Conflict - 2020

if chinis were so super duper with drones they would have used them by now.. unfortunately war is not so antiseptic that u can sit in the comfort of a/c command bunkers and win wars with drones without suffering own casualties. drones though promising tech ( and should be adopted) will not prevent o...
by manjgu
29 Oct 2020 13:45
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 5960
Views: 2333999

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

there will be drones and there will anti drone systems, CIWS, Lasers yada yada ... with limited resources , the issue is at what cost can u down drones?
by manjgu
29 Oct 2020 09:50
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Terroristan - November 11, 2019
Replies: 2848
Views: 950145

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

reminds me of kargil..mushy laid the blame of retreat on Nawaz Sharifs doorstep ... now Bajwa ji will leave the blame on Quershis doorstep. ofc pakistan is a functioning democracy with civilain oversight on Pak Fauj..
by manjgu
29 Oct 2020 09:28
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Terroristan - November 11, 2019
Replies: 2848
Views: 950145

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

hahahahhaa... no one has balls to say bajwas legs were shaking !! .... now ISPR will clarify it was Qureshis legs that were shaking...
by manjgu
28 Oct 2020 13:45
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1802093

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Saar, Now, if we try exports, how many countries fight at the altitudes we do - other than US? And if such solutions are available much cheaper elsewhere with minimal threat of sanctions etc, why not ? Swiss manufacturer will be whingeing because the days of those guys charging an arm and a leg for...
by manjgu
24 Oct 2020 12:38
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Terroristan - November 11, 2019
Replies: 2848
Views: 950145

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Pakistan will be on black list only if USA wants ... !
by manjgu
23 Oct 2020 19:32
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 5960
Views: 2333999

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

so what the publicly advertised range on nag??
by manjgu
16 Oct 2020 11:46
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Terroristan - November 11, 2019
Replies: 2848
Views: 950145

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

https://thewire.in/south-asia/imran-khans-nsa-says-india-expressed-desire-for-conversation-pak-to-insist-kashmiris-be-a-party Paxtan NSA giving interview to WIRE and speaking to Thappad!!! :roll: Says he has studied Uyghurs n Chini's are treating them fairly . :rotfl: :rotfl: Wants India to send wi...
by manjgu
16 Oct 2020 11:42
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Terroristan - November 11, 2019
Replies: 2848
Views: 950145

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

saip wrote:20 pigs meet their maker and not a peep on this board? What am I missing?

13 security personnel, 7 private guards martyred in two attacks in Ormara, North Waziristan
thoda routine ho gaya hai...thats why not a peep...
by manjgu
11 Oct 2020 22:54
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1802093

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

JTull wrote:Can someone explain why Black Top is so important? I see lot of obsession about it.

Highest feature south of pangong. ... 3 to 4 km across 'LAC'
by manjgu
08 Oct 2020 21:21
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016
Replies: 5322
Views: 1838451

Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

what was ACM Bhadurias take on drones? could not watch the parade telecast..
by manjgu
06 Oct 2020 18:33
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016
Replies: 5322
Views: 1838451

Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

MBDAs mistral integrated on Lch. .luh! !
by manjgu
06 Oct 2020 16:43
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019
Replies: 3885
Views: 1875516

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A: News & Discussions: 23 February 2019

tsarkar wrote:....
The reason for non standard parts is evolving design??
by manjgu
03 Oct 2020 21:20
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1802093

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

A question for those who are better informed, is there anything stopping us from digging sideways in the Atal Tunnel to create silos for critical storage? Any silos will have to be in the other side of the all the mountains ranges/passes (which is our logistics bottle neck) on route to frontline lo...
by manjgu
03 Oct 2020 14:05
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1802093

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Need multi-spectral analysis to be able to distinguish between dummys and real... It adds to the Intelligence workload. pushkar.bhat Remember that this is perfectly valid deception. Remember a balloon with the same dimensions as a launcher can cause a incorrect estimation of your strength or worst ...
by manjgu
03 Oct 2020 11:55
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1802093

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Not 100% sure ..but if bro completes nimmu. .neyraks road along zanskar (parallel to cheddar trek) travelling time to Leh will be reduced further by at least 5 to 6 hrs... right now its from neyraks via photoksar via wan la ... to khaltse to Leh is quite long
by manjgu
03 Oct 2020 11:48
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1802093

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

The road kind of forks ahead of Atal tunnel ...rohtang la is avoided with Atal. .. rohang gets substantial snow
by manjgu
03 Oct 2020 11:47
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1802093

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

manjgu Are you saying Atal Tunnel helps access to Leh through Shinku La which can be kept open during winters with minimal snow clearing effort and in that sense the Leh access via Manali is all 12 months? Not minimal effort but sustained effort .... depends on amount of snow as well. ...but like k...
by manjgu
03 Oct 2020 06:59
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1802093

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Need some clarifiaction: What will be teh impact of Atal tunnel. Some places it says there will be year around connectivity to Leh other places it says that the road will be open 7-8 month of the year., other places it says that the road will only be closed a few weeks. Anyone know what the scene i...
by manjgu
30 Sep 2020 17:33
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1802093

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Has there ever been an analysis of the PLA performance and tactics and how they managed the logistics in 1962? The 1962 war was also fought between Oct to December timeframe and even the Chinese infra at the time was very poor. Maybe slightly better than ours, but still very poor as compared to wha...