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by member_23455
04 Dec 2013 19:40
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1604
Views: 289949

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

A US Naval War College grad, in charge of a decent sized aircraft carrier. Nice! :)
by member_23455
04 Dec 2013 19:33
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: CDS, Tri-Services Issues & Integration Debate
Replies: 330
Views: 164766

Re: CDS, Tri-Services Issues & Integration Debate

Army watch out! http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-army-recruitment-done-on-caste-region-religion-lines-supreme-court-told-1929545 I am sure the Mods will have a view on this but how is this relevant to this thread? Adm Arun Prakash quotes the Task Force on Reforms (which submitted their report t...
by member_23455
04 Dec 2013 14:22
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1604
Views: 289949

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

don't unkil's assets pass through the suez canal on a regular basis too? All the time. As do most of the world's navies'. I am assuming Sindhurakshak too transited through the Suez when it had an unfortunate incident in bad weather that needed Egyptian help. :rotfl: So, Nuke power is free...got it!...
by member_23455
03 Dec 2013 19:49
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1604
Views: 289949

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

Vikramaditya voyage update

Possibly the first confirmation of the route, this source might be dodgy though...
After this they will head to Lisbon, and then to the Indian port of Karwar via Gibraltar and the Suez Canal.
by member_23455
03 Dec 2013 08:21
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011
Replies: 6593
Views: 1253987

Re: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011

Far East -No longer ADIZ
South Korea, Japan and the United States have flown surveillance aircraft through China's ADIZ without notifying Beijing in advance.
I have a feeling we are going to find out if Chinese pilot skills have improved since the days of a certain Mr. Wang Wei.
by member_23455
03 Dec 2013 07:55
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1604
Views: 289949

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

All I can tell you is who did press releases at my squadron. Sure. And wouldn't that come under the definition of what the USN calls "Collateral Duty"? Or even an IA slot based on "the needs of the service"? So that's Pranay and you now that we have from a US military background...
by member_23455
02 Dec 2013 22:52
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1604
Views: 289949

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

Speaking of publicising one's good work, here is a gem about Hindustan Shipyard and Vikramaditya :D : HSL Tugs When the $2.3 billion aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya eventually makes its way to the naval base on the Arabian Sea, the Port City located on the Bay of Bengal will have plenty of reason ...
by member_23455
02 Dec 2013 22:42
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1604
Views: 289949

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

Every air squadron, battalion, and navy ship has a recruiting and retention person, usually a senior nco. They also do press releases. The press keeps track of these releases for official announcements. Home town newspapers even get a release when lance corporal snuffy gets promoted to corporal. It...
by member_23455
02 Dec 2013 19:44
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1604
Views: 289949

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

Well, since this is the carrier thread after all... Folks should google DV visit + aircraft carrier and see the money and effort the US spends on getting the good publicity.
by member_23455
02 Dec 2013 18:20
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: CDS, Tri-Services Issues & Integration Debate
Replies: 330
Views: 164766

Re: CDS, Tri-Services Issues & Integration Debate

:) The IAF is happy to let Army have the CoSC as long as it is largely toothless. They too will get a chance at it soon under this new "permanent" rotation basis. Meanwhile, as mentioned in another context in another thread, every day the ground slips beneath the IAF's feet on their instit...
by member_23455
02 Dec 2013 18:01
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: CDS, Tri-Services Issues & Integration Debate
Replies: 330
Views: 164766

Re: CDS, Tri-Services Issues & Integration Debate

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Best known as the "Uttarakhand General. Question is whether we will fall into the same situation where the 4-star officer has no real powers. To start with, we must immediately handover the direct command of the SFC, ANC, 50 Para Bde to thi...
by member_23455
02 Dec 2013 16:39
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: CDS, Tri-Services Issues & Integration Debate
Replies: 330
Views: 164766

Re: CDS, Tri-Services Issues & Integration Debate

If the Permanent Chairman, COSC is still a 3-star officer, it remains to be seen if the Service Chiefs will agree by his decisions and not contradict his advice to the Govt. Otherwise, we could be looking at a still-born child like the IDS. Wish they had put in the three newly formed Joint Commands...
by member_23455
30 Nov 2013 18:15
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion
Replies: 4019
Views: 681047

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

I don't understand why folks are touchy about deployed word wrt Dhanush. After all it is the first and current part of our nuke triad, until k-15 is online. Because it means different things to different people - else we would not be having this discussion, right? We have gone forward in this discu...
by member_23455
30 Nov 2013 14:12
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion
Replies: 4019
Views: 681047

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

So if you have a difference of opinion on word 'deployment,' its ok with me. But, its definitely not a 'developmental trial.' Fair enough. Since we are all trying to establish "the objective truth" here despite being restricted to open source and as usual loosely written reports in the me...
by member_23455
30 Nov 2013 12:35
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion
Replies: 4019
Views: 681047

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

The use of certain words is normally a good benchmark that a weapon system is not yet "deployed." But then I don't have TS clearance and have to reply on open source info. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-11-23/india/44389007_1_dhanush-prithvi-missile-chandipur "The tr...
by member_23455
30 Nov 2013 12:19
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion
Replies: 4019
Views: 681047

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

indranilroy wrote:
chackojoseph wrote:
See, Dhanush cannot be replaced at this point and not in next decade or till the ship is retired. It is a tested and deployed weapon.
I did not know that Dhanush is a deployed weapon.
It's not...unless the services have changed their usage of the term "deployed".
by member_23455
30 Nov 2013 11:28
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
Replies: 4208
Views: 1118772

Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector

So, what happened post ADEX-2013 after all the fanfare? Expressions of interest? Are we participating in any RFI/RFPs of third countries? Marketing JV Tie-ups?
by member_23455
30 Nov 2013 08:06
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1604
Views: 289949

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

vasu raya wrote: and EMALS can work for ski jumps?
Theoretically, yes it can. But as Shalav's post earlier in this thread brings out, those are two different approaches to solve a problem.

Seems to be a more expensive solution and violative of the KISS principle, so may end up going nowhere in the end.
by member_23455
29 Nov 2013 23:24
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1604
Views: 289949

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

While one should never underestimate any adversary, especially one with the determination and resources to play the long game, the Chinese are a fair way from a credible CBG capability. A look at the time it has taken them to gain confidence to let their SSNs on blue-water patrols is a good benchmar...
by member_23455
29 Nov 2013 12:53
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013
Replies: 3929
Views: 548373

Re: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013

A major tanking effort has always needed the Air Force, even for the USN at the height of the Cold War. The Nicobar base now with ANC becoming a Navy command is also poised tantalizingly. So, essentially from an IN aviation assets strike planning PoV either: 1. We get to US like levels of joint oper...
by member_23455
29 Nov 2013 09:02
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Army: News and Discussions 15 Apr 2012
Replies: 3969
Views: 518125

Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 15 Apr 2012

Talking about Generals may I take the liberty of listing a few of my favourites. - Hanut Singh, PS Bhagat, Harwant Singh, Shankar Roychaudhari, BC Joshi, PC Katoch. Would be nice to hear who other's favourites are. Keeping it to just the COAS - Thimayya, Maneckshaw, Vaidya, Sundarji, VN Sharma, VK ...
by member_23455
29 Nov 2013 08:43
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1604
Views: 289949

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

To provide the complete picture they are currently operating with 10 carriers under a Congress waiver, to tide over the gap between Enterprise's exit and Gerald Ford's commissioning which is expected 2015/16.
by member_23455
29 Nov 2013 08:25
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013
Replies: 3929
Views: 548373

Re: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013

C-2 could barely refuel 1-2 planes while still keeping enough fuel to get itself back ..so useful for emergency mode only. no wonder land based fleet of refuelers are needed to sustain navy ops , or the F-18E carries huge drop tanks. You are confusing the C-2 with the S-3. The C-2 does not do AAR, ...
by member_23455
29 Nov 2013 07:53
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1604
Views: 289949

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

EMALS for a ship to see operational service in 2025-2030 is a no-brainer IMO - the advantages over existing tech is substantial. EMALS being developed by DRDO might end in them seeking foreign ToT/consultancy like in many other projects we have seen. If the objection to an American imported EMALS is...
by member_23455
28 Nov 2013 20:26
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1604
Views: 289949

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

watching old videos of the falklands attacks , most of the argentine pilots were really good .... operating at limits of their range , at low level ..even with obsolete ac like the A4 skyhawk were quite a handful.... speaks well of their training system. their side of the story is unknown in the in...
by member_23455
28 Nov 2013 10:02
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1604
Views: 289949

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

Homeward Bound (apologies to Simon&Garfunkel) Just had to laugh out aloud when reading this...bureaucracy the great leveler. :D Commanded by Captain Suraj Berry, Vikramaditya is at the outer anchorage at the time of filing this report, completing customs clearance formalities and This is a real...
by member_23455
28 Nov 2013 01:27
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1604
Views: 289949

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

Shalav wrote:Please enlighten - I am a good student. Always happy to add knowledge.

:)
Shalav, I think I may be one who'll be doing the learning as you seem to have a good handle on the USN side of the house:-). Is there an email ID I can reach you at and we can exchange thoughts?
by member_23455
28 Nov 2013 01:21
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1604
Views: 289949

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

Indranil,

Absolutely, but i would request you to put Mihir in touch with Pranay who has served on a USN Carrier. His sticks and stones comments aside it is an opportunity to learn and not put misleading stuff on the thread.

Feel free to delete as felt suitable.
by member_23455
28 Nov 2013 00:55
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1604
Views: 289949

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

While a big thing has been made of this ability by naval designers and commanders, they really don't like to discuss their sortie rates, where a simultaneous launch/recovery capability provides no advantage and was never used, even during the highest per day sortie rates ever to date. There are man...
by member_23455
28 Nov 2013 00:40
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1604
Views: 289949

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

Mihir, Ever heard the phrase "bookish knowledge". That is why I had asked you for video of "real-life carrier operations", because that would illustrate the gulf in what you think you know from books and what happens out there. Picture speaks a thousand words and a moving picture...
by member_23455
27 Nov 2013 23:32
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1604
Views: 289949

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

Here's a suggestion to address that: leave. At the very least, we'll be spared the misery of wading through the snark and superciliousness to see if you actually have a point every time you hit the submit button. Ah, the good ol' personal attack. When called out, there's always that option to fall ...
by member_23455
27 Nov 2013 23:23
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1604
Views: 289949

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

While the different aircraft inventory mixes will become clearer over time for the Vikramaditya (personally am intrigued by INAS 300 crest featuring prominently in pics), in times of combat a few more airframes can be squeezed in with a fair bit of improvisation. The logistics tail though becomes mo...
by member_23455
27 Nov 2013 22:41
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1604
Views: 289949

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

Here's a suggestion to address that: leave. At the very least, we'll be spared the misery of wading through the snark and superciliousness to see if you actually have a point every time you hit the submit button. You and the gent after you with the "cats for recovery" gem clearly live in ...
by member_23455
27 Nov 2013 14:03
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013
Replies: 2841
Views: 284520

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Raheel Sharif is brother of Shabbir Sharif who was awarded Nishaan-e-Haider posthomously in Suleimanki sector in 1971. He was commanding 6FF, Sam Bahadur's first regiment pre-Independence.

The Indian unit that took him on was 4 Jat, Saurabh Kalia's paltan.
by member_23455
27 Nov 2013 12:58
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval News & Discussion - 12 Oct 2013
Replies: 4026
Views: 561277

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

Yep. I will not pretend to understand the gory details of SCOMET, but Japan and Australia have military treaties with the US. A lot gets "waived" as happened to us with the "123 Deal." The pressing question for us in the next 5-10 years will be whether we want to put our eggs in ...
by member_23455
27 Nov 2013 12:30
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval News & Discussion - 12 Oct 2013
Replies: 4026
Views: 561277

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

With the ANC now formally being assigned to the Navy the INS Baaz upgrade is a matter of time, not just in terms of runway length but fuel and stores. P-8Is, US-2s, and hopefully a detachment of Mig 29Ks operating from there is going to be a major headache for Chinese strategic planners. I just hop...
by member_23455
27 Nov 2013 10:23
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval News & Discussion - 12 Oct 2013
Replies: 4026
Views: 561277

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

Well given we "let" the Chinese in to Hambantota and now into Maldives I am sure our realpolitik goals of letting these countries know that they should not be pissing us off have worked spectacularly. Ironically, after these own goals, having a strong ANC is even more necessary so maybe th...
by member_23455
27 Nov 2013 09:42
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval News & Discussion - 12 Oct 2013
Replies: 4026
Views: 561277

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

With the ANC now formally being assigned to the Navy the INS Baaz upgrade is a matter of time, not just in terms of runway length but fuel and stores. P-8Is, US-2s, and hopefully a detachment of Mig 29Ks operating from there is going to be a major headache for Chinese strategic planners. I just hope...