Bharat Rakshak

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vishnu - there are so many double entendres in your signorina description that i must blush and refrain from obvious comment

, except that if you toucha da signorina, da bishop smasha yorafaice!

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Originally posted by Jai: Hi, Vishnu, thanks for the pictures. RS, in my knowledge there has not been a NIIP-news release which indicates development of a Bars for transport aircrafts. why would there be? take a standard bars, mechanically fit it, wire it up and plug in teh requisite computers and ...

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three cheers for vishnu! hip hip hurrah!
any res pic is welcome boss!
we salute you!

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are the jags routinely flying with ferry tanks as well as top ups from gajrani?

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Originally posted by Vishnu Som: No good will tour as such ... They have a long complicated route ... which goes something like this ... Ambala-Jamnagar-Qatar-Egypt-Italy-Portugal-the Azores-Canada East (forget name of base)- Northbay (Canada)-Edmonton-Alaska ... azores to newfoundland/labrador is ...

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Have reclassified the issues from RayC and generally put down what is obvious from the various discussions to date. I would see three levels of thinking: Strategic (geopolitical), Sub-strategic (politico-military) and Tactical/Operationally Strategic (military execution). In the light of which, the ...

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japanese are not so bad at air defence, good kit and lots of training with usaf. would be good for iaf to learn how to work with others - if only to expose or reinforce issues in their own competence and training

are the jags doing a goodwill fly by through europe? what is their schedule?

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the trouble with advanced targeting - unless its army hq, is that when the bombs hit it will be like the sudanese toothpaste factory... i.e. nothing illicit going on onlee the thing that tsp cannot handle will be uncertainty, confusion, and a threat of counter attack that will force them to maintain...

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Originally posted by wyu: To give you gentlemen an example, the 79 Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan is just as every bit as impressive as the American Invasion of Iraq and the Soveits were no where near as technically advance as the Americans are today. did they not have all major nodes in control wi...

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A naval cold start seems to me to be much more feasible for us. we have surplus capacity w.r.t. TSPN so that maintaining a sizable fleet in the arabian sea at all times is doable. anyway, we have to patrol the western sea quite aggressively these days. its a short step from there to be able to quick...

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rudra saar, cost of being more on alert with my limited aging resources in case the IN/IAF combo hit me at short notice is going to strain my bank balance. I'd like to hit the yindu's hard on their H&D but the strain will be high. I worry about maintenance on my equipment and crew fatigue. Witho...

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Naval Cold Start - starter for 10 1. ASW assets out at sea permanently (deliberately TSP centric) 2. Aerial recon out at sea permanently (increased in times of tension) 3. first sign of trouble, 1 destroyer and 1 AA ship move into zone cleared by ASW/Air and prepare to catch any TSP ships out in the...

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there is no case for action unless PLA forces have occupied Nepal or Bhutan. Myanmar/Burma is a more formidable opponent and atleast in the border areas it is not tank country. Normally there are few scenarios where war would be contemplated with Burma - depends once again on Chinese interference in...

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Originally posted by Calvin: As of now, doesn't it seem that CS is an exclusively Pak-focused doctrine? IOW, India has no offensive intentions around any of its other neighbours. as stated boldly in our foreign policy. indeed India has no aggressive intent beyond her borders with anyone. just that ...

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seems obvious that CS will be differently positioned vis a vis TSP and China. with TSP we play a battle of annihilation in their space, with China we play a hold the line and blunt the big spear and deny them a political victory game. it seems to me that a Phase II attack by China, particularly in t...

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leonard you are describing zulu tactics! also very effective in their time - albeit at a different scale!

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Originally posted by Johann: As for Phase II, I think Hitesh has encapsulated things nicely - a lot will depend on how quickly the IA grasps the intentions of Phase II forces and moves to defeat it. Remember that Phase II is meant to fix a given IA (Phase I found it) force while Phase III destroys ...

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Johann - i see what you mean, however it seems to me that Phase I troops are most likely to run out of supplies (assuming they are still warm) and will need to get out. ofcourse, the front should have passed them by that time, so they might automatically find themselves in the rear! Phase II units w...

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phase III can also be pinned and then subjected to arty/air/missile assault to break it up wyu - i believe you stated that phase I and II make way for III. would that leave a large number of exhausted, spent PLA units 'milling around' the combat zone waiting to go home, or do they still continue to ...

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ehsmang - RayC is pointing out a fact that most of us who have never been in the deep mountains do not appreciate. the terrain is very very difficult and plays a massive part in everything, absolutely everything, even to the extent of challenging the maintainance of your sanity. As i said previously...

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ah the beauty of conversations at cross purposes!!! air dominance by IAF presence and intent kept PAF from interference following the first attempt with the F16's (Pak radars and posts would have picked up our CAPs and transmissions and understood what was out there - and what not to tangle with). t...

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sribabu, whilst i agree that pre-emptive strike could be a scenario, they did it in the past when they had equipment parity or superiority. now they have significant disadvantages in air-air, which would lead me to conclude that they would focus on defensive usage where they still have some advantag...

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I think we can split the spool up time issues between India-TSP and India-China, i.e. managing the transition to war, issuing the order to go, and being ready to go - and then going with TSP there is a quicker faster cycle: with China there needs to be more thought before we can postulate: and anywa...

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one of the issues for offensive defence will be the extensive fortifications in the punjab and jammu on both sides within the canal-river complex. either this is being done by heliborne, or with massive engineering support

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Originally posted by Sribabu: With the cold start, what is the guarantee that TSP will not launch pre-emptive attacks(as it has done before) on the assembly areas of CSBGs as these can be easily identified. For the PAF, this might be the only chance for them to play a role in the war anyway as they...

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Rudra, whilst I agree with you re UAVs and 155mm, I think wyu's example is pertinent. There are modern equivalents of hiding behind hills, etc. I am reminded of how well the Serbs managed to preserve their armour all through the NATO bombardment. Any NATO ground force going in would still have run u...

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RayC - This will possibly eliminate concentration areas, assembly areas and the like and hence the time penalty for launch would be much less. I think it will be something like 'attacking from the line of march'. Such an idea had been practised long,long back when I was a junior but it requires tre...

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the air lessons from kargil are mixed 1. IAF displayed air dominance, kept PAF out of the picture 2. conventional attack in mountains is a waste of time and expensive (3 a/c 5 men lost) 3. PGM's can succeed if... given many conditions... however are also very expensive - where's the value added targ...

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Originally posted by Rudra Singha: So in effect you are declaring that US will declare war on india for the sake of saving Munna. one of many scenarios. we were discussing what intervention there could be for desi-WZC to end. as discussed previously on the situation room thread, unkil agreed to thr...

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anurag - given the way unkil has behaved some form of extreme pressure will be applied to save MuNNA's tushy - as long as MuNNA is valuable to Unkil. the threat of b52 strikes is no different to 7th fleet sailing up the bay of bengal - which has happened. Now if war on terror were to finish, Unkil w...

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Originally posted by Anurag: Originally posted by Daulat: wyu - Indian disengagement occurs when POTUS calls on the hotline and orders IA to stop or face B52 strikes on logistics nodes - a la 'BBC Situation Room' analysis..... It's only TV! B52's, hmmm..do the math now! never woz no gud at maths......

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wyu - Indian disengagement occurs when POTUS calls on the hotline and orders IA to stop or face B52 strikes on logistics nodes - a la 'BBC Situation Room' analysis. This is preceded by Generalissimo in Pindi calling POTUS and screaming like hell that his finger's on the nuke button and is starting t...

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having reread the above analyses, i remain convinced taht cold start is a variant on WZC, but with more integrated air and naval force usage, and the all important red line issue the aim is to gain a poltically favourable ground situation before the great powers intervene the role of the navy and ai...

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Originally posted by Ravi: I still think the UPA govt leaked it to gain advantage over NDA as a counter to tainted ministers issue, but later had to backtrack realizing the seriousness of the issue. bofors and tehelka my friends, nothing else. RayC - jasjit singh's book on kargil has a lot of info/...

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computer stress modelling also allows components to be designed with more shavings and holes built in than before, the forces do not flow through the whole of the shape, allowing quite a bit to be cut out. now days quite complex shapes can be machined or cast at a reasonable price, unlike the old da...

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Originally posted by Surya: strange that this is not finding its way to Indian sites yet http://in.news.yahoo.com/040609/139/2djr5.html kaka and dada doing deal on tehelka and bofors keeping quiet onlee. report leakage was done by others in party to discredit someone. bjp could have been preparing ...

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steel is generally a no-no on a/c due to weight for most purposes alu is good, particularly new al-li or al-mg alloys. v high speed a/c use titanium alloys. generally pure metals are never used, always in alloy form. the strongest part is generally the wingbox which is usually somewhere around the p...

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patnay's rebuttal is also the first time i have seen anything on casualties due to pak interdiction of the highway... we were always told it was serious, but never knew how bad...

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is pt. 5353 too high for air insertion? assuming there is any flat spot in the first place, even for hover and drop. and will PA fire upon any heli attempting to do so?

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the IAF letting IA know where it is sounds better fixed by datalink than by radio comms - the more talk, the more likely to be listened to agreed on the 'flight plan' issue - most likely that spotters reported takeoffs from the airfields with no real knowledge of where they were headed. with the adv...

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