Bharat Rakshak

johneeG

But, what I would like to know is,"how do they differentiate between 'correct' & 'wrong' deciphering of an undeciphered script? What is the critical test to know if its correct or wrong deciphering?" Susan Sullivan has said that if using her deciphering, any Indus inscriptions start p...

johneeG

>>So, saying that all literature must be human made, is 'religious engineering'? :lol: I thought it was common sense. How is this Dogma different from believing in divine origins of Quran or some other literature? The difference is that none of what we now call Hinduism is dogma. Fundamental differ...

johneeG

Batori saar, That Indus script decoding surely sounds fishy to put it mildly. I mean they see a fish sign and conclude that it refers to syllable 'ma' and then say that its the starting of name 'mani'. Fish to mani is a huge jump. But, what I would like to know is,"how do they differentiate bet...

johneeG

We do not hear much of Allitrochades or Amitrochades, the son of Sandrokottos. Deimachos was the Greek ambassador to Allitrochades. Exactly. Because, Allitrochades or Amitrochades does not sound like Bindusara from any angle. Indian texts mention no title for Bindusara which is similar to those wor...

johneeG

Caste was mainly based on birth, atleast from 1000 CE. Cleanliness, education, food, money, power,...etc. were results of caste system, not causes. Untouchability was/is not limited to some small ritual or one's private kitchen. It was/is an oppressive social apartheid. Blaming foreign invaders for ...

johneeG

JEM saar, thanks for checking and pointing the mistakes. MB is a long work and different works have different numerals. I made mistake in converting Roman numerals. Anyway, I am posting corrections: Noah's flood story is similar to the story of universal flood from Mahabharatha, Vana Parva, Section ...

johneeG

Shiv, That was a cheap shot to accuse me of being a crypto-christian. I could turn around and accuse you of the same. For the record, I am not a christian...neither by birth nor choice. I don't believe in historical jesus or jesus of faith. If Abrahamic religions are more history centric and Indic r...

johneeG

How can you prove out of India without showing similarities? And only west can do the digestion? It seems that fear of western digestion is interfering with clear thinking. Its possible that west might try to digest Indian culture. In that case, one should be on offensive. I don't think defense work...

johneeG

So, saying that all literature must be human made, is 'religious engineering'?

I thought it was common sense. How is this Dogma different from believing in divine origins of Quran or some other literature?

johneeG

Batori saar, distance between Amritsar and Chennai is 2135 KM. Distance between Karachi and Kolkatta is 2185 KM. These distances are manageable. Lets say a bullock cart with a speed of around 2.5 KM per hour travels for 12 hrs per day. That would be 30 KM per day. In 90 days (3 months), it can cover...

johneeG

How are Hammurabi or Moses different from Manu, Baudhayana, Apasthambha,...etc? Except very fine details, they all seem similar to me in terms of basic principle.

johneeG

Pulikeshi, Every religion & sect has its share of dogmas. The onus is on you to prove that Vedhas or whatever other literature is not made by man. By default, all literature is assumed to be human made. Your meanings for Sanskruth words are mostly wrong. I am talking of precise meanings. You are...

johneeG

Maitya & Maityasya may be a reference to an ancient kingdom called Mathsya. Maadhri ( step-mother of Arjuna) was a princess of Mathsya. Sathi Saavithri is also a princess of Mathsya. Thanks. Matsya or Mathsya however refers to the Matsya Janapada (Northeastern Rajasthan), also from the time of ...

johneeG

Pulikeshi saar, - I was talking of basic principles, you are talking some exceptions. Exceptions exist for all rules. - Vedhas are man made. Vedhas having non-human origin is a nonsensical dogma of Mimamsa school. - Dharma is law. Shruthi implies revelation. Vedha means knowledge. Smruthi means memo...

johneeG

Best solution is endless negotiations stretching forever but always on the brink of closure.

johneeG

I want to show the similarities between Old Testament and Hindhu scriptures. My theory is that OT stories are copies. Mahabharatha, Vana Parva, Section 188 talks about creation which is remarkably similar to Genesis 1 creation( except garden of eden which is based on Greek stories). Noah's flood sto...

johneeG

Published on Jan 04, 2001 Inscription throws light on Afghan Hindu ruler : PTI PRESS TRUST OF INDIA Kolkata, Jan 4: A stone inscription in Sanskrit, recovered from the city of Mazar-i-Sharif of northern Afghanistan a few years ago, has thrown new light on the reign of the Hindu Shahi ruler `Veka' i...

johneeG

An interesting article: http://indiafacts.org/flawed-sheet-anchors-of-indian-history/ "Flawed Sheet Anchors of Indian History" Is it possible to devise any litmus tests to nail this forever? What would be wrong if we date the material used to build delhi iron pillar? Any idea why we are n...

johneeG

Every society had a lawgiver. Indians were one of earliest (if not the earliest) to invent law (Dharma). Obviously, it was not perfect, but it had one important idea. The law is based on culture of society. And every society and sub-society had the freedom to come up with their own laws. Basic princ...

johneeG

SSridhar saar,
in terms of Islamic doctrine, what are the new contributions of Sirhindi & Waliuulah?

johneeG

China is simply following in the footsteps of the west. China is a better student of west compared to India. You are overstating what China is doing and underestimating their autism... ironically playing into US arms... The west never had and will perhaps never have ghost cities, slave camps, harmo...

johneeG

RD saar, I am not quite convinced that China wants to drive India into US arms. I think the behaviour of these big global powers can be decoded by understanding Machiavelli's teachings. China also seems to have learnt these. Even Pakistan follows these to some extent. Only India (land of Chaanakya) ...

johneeG

Vivek saar,
great post.

johneeG

It seems to me that China would not want a war with India just as India tends to avoid a war against pak. Because a) stronger country has more to lose. b) four fathers from around the world can help the weaker country with money, weapons and diplomatic support. Four fathers can also put sanctions on...

johneeG

US is playing balance of power. Its as clear as it can be. They need China because of economy. China was initially developed as a counter to Soviets. India counters China. India is also needed for economy. Pakistan counters India. India(until Modi) seems to have no gameplan. Its clearly seen in comp...

johneeG

Akshay saar,
forget pak for a moment, I have another question: how should Indian state deal with Kashmir valley (reference NIT)?

johneeG

I was just going through Nellore inscriptions. One inscription says that Krishnaddva Raya was ruling in Shakha 1444. If Shakha era starts from 583 BCE, then Krishnadeva Raya would be ruling around 861 CE!

johneeG

The best and easiest solution to pak is balochistan freedom. I hope doval & modi are working on it. It might take some time to fructify. Shooting match across the border and infiltration is a distraction. Pakistan is using these cheap tricks to tie down much larger indian army. Thats why only de...

johneeG

There is some kind of gotala going on about Ptolemy. Islamic middle ages arabic writers thought Ptolemy as the King of Egypt from Ptolemy dynasty. That dynasty ended with Roman conquest around 30 BCE. So, this Ptolemy has to be atleast 50 BCE according middle ages arabic writers.

johneeG

True. I agree. ...particularly Tiastani bit. I noticed it just after posting that earlier post. Tiastani does not sound like Castana from any angle.

johneeG

Having meal with Indian workers in Saudi was a nice gesture by Modiji. I hope he sends a message to middle east, not to exploit Indian workers.

johneeG

As per Vedveer Arya, Śātavāhana dynasty had 32 kings and ruled from 830 BCE -338 BCE, a total of 493 years. As per Kota Venkatachalam, Śātavāhana dynasty had 32 kings and ruled from 833 BCE -327 BCE, a total of 506 years. Even if we say, Śātavāhanas started ruling around 915 BCE, after the Śuṅgas a...

johneeG

Peter saar, http://www.theosophy-nw.org/theosnw/reincar/re-imo.htm RajeshA saar & A Gupta saar, Fascinating discussion. Also, since Shakha era is at the center of it all, why not also focus its origins. It seems that some inscriptions claim that Shakha era started by Rudrsdaman around the time ...

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Peter saar, http://www.theosophy-nw.org/theosnw/reincar/re-imo.htm RajeshA saar & A Gupta saar, Fascinating discussion. Also, since Shakha era is at the center of it all, why not also focus its origins. It seems that some inscriptions claim that Shakha era started by Rudrsdaman around the time o...

johneeG

JEM saar, Why pick on me, saar. :) I didnt bring creationism into the thread. Atmost, I may have written 4-5 lines on it on this thread. Other posters have contributed more lines on the topic. I was just reacting to some other posts. I thought mutually exclusive and mutually contradictory are synony...

johneeG

Also, vedveer is searching for a narrow location of northern karnataka. Chalukyas(particularly Pulikeshin 2 & vikramidtya) ruled a vast territory including karnataka, maha, Telangana and parts of AP.

johneeG

RajeshA saar,
if possible, please post the actual text of those 2 inscriptions...maybe in Towards a new history thread. I am unable to find the text of those inscriptions.

johneeG

Ok.

I just thought you might know, so asked. I am assuming that Vedveer is making an assumption of 'total eclipse' whenever eclipse is mentioned in inscriptions.

johneeG

RajeshA saar, do the inscriptions mention eclipse or total eclipse? ...particularly kurtaketi and hyd inscriptions? Primus saar, all religions preach some form of creationism. Many people regardless of religion believe in creationism. And finally, evolution and creationism are not mutually contradic...

johneeG

More goodies for Pakistan after gratuitously advising India on its strategies & weapons. After F-16 fighter jets, US to sell nine AH-1Z Viper helicopters to Pakistan - PTI The US is poised to sell nine AH-1Z Viper attack helicopters worth $170 million to Pakistan, weeks after Obama administrati...

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