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Sanku

It's just that the bait for India to join the grand alliance was investment plus the withdrawal of the high tech sanctions regime. And you've got to understand this sanctions regime is much bigger than just nuclear components. So we go into the alliance without our quid pro quo. What KS and others ...

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To all those waiting to jump on my and pour vitroil and personal attacks instead of discussing points:: I am still waiting for someone to tell me how the deal helps us (pro-deal faction); in a macroscopic picture; quite willing to learn you see provided some one speaks politely. After a hunderd odd ...

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But who's going to protect us from China? The CPI-M? I don't think so. You need to come up with an alternative defense against China, if you want India to be able to turn down offers like 123. Can you give your alternative, please? **** Warning: I apologize for the graphic nature of the post this i...

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Amit; to do what you are asking me; I would need a lawyer on my team which I dont have (despite N^3 repeated assertion that I am BJPs spokesman here; hence have the Arun Jaitely with me or something :lol: ) I have already made a post with the ideas that I thought that J18 (by which I refer to Messer...

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...... A good long post; but if may say so; you fall in the same trap that most people who have managed to support the deal have; you have the same fait accompli mindset + you highlight the WRONG ISSUES in the ANTI-DEAL camp. Allow me to go out once again; but before that: AS and other have fallen ...

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A investigation needs to be done to find out whether China is using its influence and money to derail the Indo - US nuclear deal. As it was revealed that KGB had spies in the Congress and Left during 70's and 80's, it may be a strong possibility that the chinese has done the same in some indian pol...

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And left is taking the battle to UPA camp before UPA can try and think of making the deal a poll issue New-clear fission: Left plays aam aadmi card [quote]New Delhi: The CPI-M on Monday released pamphlets targetting the UPA Government and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh in particular. The CPI-M litera...

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I take issue with those who say that we are in an international "doghouse" at the moment and UNLESS we proceed with the nuclear deal we will remain in the international cesspool of failing/ failed nations.............. Bhow bhow bowww ooooooooooooooooo :eek: :shock: :lol: :rotfl: Meanwhil...

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Time to put some canards to rest International Agreements and U.S. Law s a matter of domestic law within the United States, Congress may override a pre-existing treaty or Congressional-Executive agreement of the United States. To do so, however, would place the United States in breach of the obligat...

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Target: caging the dragon India should sign the 123 Agreement to avoid Chinese hegemony in Asia By K. Subrahmanyam Shorn of the hype; what KS is advocating is we move into the US camp; to contain China (BTW this article has a new date but I remember having read the exact same piece before; it seems...

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Yes I agree that nuke power is 3% and at best will give <10%. But the deal is needed to bring India from the 'doghouse' it was sent to since 1947. Knwoing that the US policy is not allow any challenger ot develop India needs to chart a new course. Ramana; this is the aspect I have the most serious ...

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ROFLMAO.. Riiiiight. Here comes every Tom Dick and Rama to re write the constitution! :eek: :D And we need "Tom,Dick" and Manny ??, to show the light.. 8) Please.. what has been posted is how democracy ~functions.. [this has nothing to with the deal..]. So please stop distorting things to...

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ShauryaT has already given exteremly suitable answers to your points; but since some of them were to me; let me reply again: Sanku, just curious though OT, r u anyway Saty-lite or Saty in new form ? Huh!! Why? Nopes; I am a different beast. On the same count I have not heard from anyone why we must ...

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ABM treaty is enacted becoz Russia/USSR had the clout to counter and it was scrapped unilateraly becoz Russia lost that clout. On the same count I have not heard from anyone why we must sign the deal or die; for the price we pay!! OTOH NRao has detailed the process of deal making as it was playing ...

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So to get that clout, what to do...go to starting point of the story...this what repeated everywhere again & again in different ways so far...so the saga will continue for ever like trying to get the answer to the question: which comes first, chicken or egg ? No Kanson that is not the correct s...

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Ah well; I wish Dr Singh did not have to give a clean chit them on such weak grounds then. After all though Oxford is his alma mater; India is his mater; he has literally grown up on Indian milk has he not? To whom would his loyalties be expected to be stronger too? There is certainly no point in hi...

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Basically the article states how the British deliberately kept India intellectually dumb, ruined her urban and agricultural development, virtually stopped India from experiencing her Industrial Revolution, while in turn accelerating its own with India and other colonized nations acting as a direct ...

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Vivek Zindabad......

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Dr Singh is a politician? New to be NRao

, but then you always erred on the side of civility didnt you

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On the question of politics; we have seen in the past that govts. have kept aside the "typical" political behavior in intrests of forgein policy. This deal is a important enough marker in Indian affairs such that non-typical behavior is needed from current political powers.

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I do however, believe that nuclear isolation is something we've got to get out of -- how we do that and when we do that is off course an entirely different question. I agree that we need to get out of nuclear isolation; however the question is how; and what price are we willing to pay. Very early o...

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Hello Amit; Welcome to BRF; yes it is not for the faint of heart indeed and many thanks for your rather kind words (where exactly is the little red dot though; whether on somebodys forehead I wonder :wink: ). Okay jokes apart; a "good" deal would can come about in a number of ways; in term...

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If you are asking why doesn't MMS behave like PVNR. Its because he is not PVNR :). . There are some things best done by PVNR type people is it not :-); another thought: who is congress can take over the mantle of PVNR and replace MMS and guide the deal to safety? That would be another good way to g...

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I agree, thats a reasonable argument. But again as I have said, my perspective is different. In a democracy like India, every possible movement will be contested. . Indeed; and that is why it is incumbent for a Govt to either have clear majority; or through open negotiations with the primary stateh...

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^^^^^ And if there is a compelling reason; we are willing to hear it and debate it; but the approach of the Pro-deal faction of the congress (MMS-Sonia-Sibal?) seems to be: >>>> "Shut up you fool; how dare you ask" Till the left told them exactly what their "aukat" was. Well as n...

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So once we take away the fear of red-lines, we are just arguing ACTION vs INACTION are we not. No we are not arguing action vs inaction; we are arguging one set of action vs the other. When have I (or most people with concerns) been saying abrogate the deal and do nothing? I have been saying; follo...

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Sanku, that was to KGoan, but may I add a few cents. IMHO No, to your question above. And let me add another "No" to whether India goes down the drain if it goes ahead with the 123 deal. And heres the kicker - the reason would be the same for both. Lets think about that. Thanks for the re...

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^^^^^
Amen Philip!!

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alokgupt: Could you please modify that url. It's wrecking the horizontal formating of the page. Sorry Samuel. No can do. Nothing mysterious involved. Its just that it's an open forum etc, and I obviously can't add real names etc. That's all. The comments and discussion savaging the article are also...

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Indian Express has been running a series of articles saying that how low uraninum stocks will kill our plants and how the thorium cycle will take 30 years to start working. Given that Arun_S (during the time deal was being made); and others later had posted a lot of data to the contary; can we safel...

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kgoan wrote:It appears that Enqyoobs Energizer Bunnies current tactics focus on a mish-mash of political fear and some amazingly vacuous rubbish on energy.

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As are YBs tactics " 123 deal the best now; at any cost; before India goes down the drain" -- do you agree with this position KG?

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Why should any future PM expect anything different if he negotiates a different deal? All this talk of "renegotiating a different deal" is a farce, a fantasy, a fairy tale. It is this deal or nothing. Birathar; there are some things we hope the next govt. will have: 1) An ELECTED PM!! 2) ...

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5 years from now: North Korea's nuclear program capped, rolled back, eliminated. Iran's reactors in ruins after an Israeli-American-British strike approved by the UN. etc.. Ah N^3 you let the mask slip: Your real views are now obvious--- CAPTIUALTE NOW!! SAVE CAPTILULATION AND SHAME LATER. World is...

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I thought you would come up with that line too, but you know quite well that this is not the situation at all. The US-India agreement is the 123, NOT the Hyde Act. What the Hyde tells the US President, is no more relevant to the international agreement than what the Indian Parliament tells the Indi...

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Chinese torture as policy

Late-term abortions are routine to enforce single-child law, reports Alexa Olesen

Extremely horrible state of affairs.

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Joey you didnt understand sraj's post:: what he is saying is lack of perpetual supply of fuel may easily create conditions where a) we have to divert strategic assests to safeguarded civilian side thus depriving the strat program. or b) we have to put strat reactors under safegaurds because the stoc...

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But this is precisely the point I'm making - the GSLV fiasco clearly showed the true worth of written contracts. At the time India was facing a BOP crisis recovery, a TSP sponsored terrorism movement in Kashmir, babri masjid related internal strife and the collapse of USSR. And Robin Raphael was qu...

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So clearly - you can sign all the legal treatise you want, but they are not worth a flying fig when you do not have the economic clout to back it up. . You still dont understand anything do you; sigh... Economic clout? Nopes; Japan has plenty of economic clout which unequal treaties has it backed o...

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Excellent editorials here: Mr Advani, go for amendment even the most casual scrutiny of what the BJP's key speakers, Mr Arun Shourie and Mr Yashwant Sinha (we need not be distracted by loudmouths and gadflies eager to comment on each and every issue in the hope of making it to prime time news) durin...

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