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by manjgu
22 Mar 2021 09:52
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Terroristan - November 11, 2019
Replies: 2848
Views: 949687

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

PA is not interested in Kashmir issue settlement... the raison d'etre of PA will be over
by manjgu
22 Mar 2021 09:36
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Terroristan - November 11, 2019
Replies: 2848
Views: 949687

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

why thru a common frnd in dubai !!!! there is enough backchannel going on...
by manjgu
20 Mar 2021 20:30
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread
Replies: 14441
Views: 2831292

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Personally I don't support making it open for all at this moment. The most at risk are 60+ and comorbidities. Once you make it open for all, it becomes difficult for older people to get vaccinated. They cannot stay at these centers for long period waiting for their turns. Chances are these centers ...
by manjgu
20 Mar 2021 13:55
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Terroristan - November 11, 2019
Replies: 2848
Views: 949687

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Amb cameron munter made some imp points in the isloo conference 1. USA focus is now on area between Wagah and wellington ( ie indo pacific). the so called geo strategic location of pak is a thing of the past 2. USA is taking its eyes off Afghanistan and Middle east as well with the arabs and israel ...
by manjgu
20 Mar 2021 13:43
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread
Replies: 14441
Views: 2831292

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

still v slow pace of vax... idk whats holding the govt back from making it free for all ?? and utilise almost 40& unused capacity
by manjgu
19 Mar 2021 15:20
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Terroristan - November 11, 2019
Replies: 2848
Views: 949687

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

in one of his vids MY said ..pakistan must also encourage pipeline to India thru Pak. this way indian energy security to some extent will be dependent on Pak and we can squeeze them on kashmir. the underlying theme is how to extract kashmir from india by these little games. With the formation of qua...
by manjgu
19 Mar 2021 07:41
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Terroristan - November 11, 2019
Replies: 2848
Views: 949687

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

the current moves of "immy the dimmy" and "shaking bajwa" have moeed yusuf MY written all over it. MY for years has been advising building trade/economic relations with india which will give them leverage over India. right now as per MY ,Pak has no leverage of any kind wrt india....
by manjgu
13 Mar 2021 21:13
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread
Replies: 14441
Views: 2831292

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

I think they should cut observation period from 30 min to 15-20 min which should double the numbers without much risk ? as per a relative... the doctor gives jabs to10 people then waits for 30 min observing ..and then the next round.
by manjgu
02 Mar 2021 22:03
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 4234
Views: 1239664

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

sameer joshi on twitter says "It is to the credit of the ‘Tigers’ that the CCS/ 14 Sqn ac cud never threaten them, with the young IAF M2K pilots never falling for the shooter/drags deployed by the Thunders. " what is referred to as shooter/drags?
by manjgu
02 Mar 2021 13:27
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread
Replies: 14441
Views: 2831292

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

1) u have to register from cowin website and not cowin app !! trust the babus to F... up everything. 2) for some reason once u book ..choose a hospital it does not show how to book a particular time slot !! no time slots given. Lol . 3) I think govt should have just opened it for all without any con...
by manjgu
22 Feb 2021 18:01
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800741

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Cyrano .. u need to study the maps once again... I have spent some time in Chushul. Spangur lake is behind
Moldo ..moldo practically is on the lake..spangur gap is in front of Moldo...
by manjgu
22 Feb 2021 13:57
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800741

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

not for a moment i am doubting the Generals. i am trying to understand the why of it. Was it something which was politically expeditious and/or militarily sound . why we insisted only on PTso. anyway we will await the result of talks.
by manjgu
22 Feb 2021 09:51
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800741

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Ankit ...1) all rounds till 7th IIRC failed as per YKJ ...its only when we got Han tail under our boots that the issue was resolved ! all i am trying to understand what presure points we have against PLA for further rounds to succeed or what will motivate PLA to resolve the impasse. 2) when were IA ...
by manjgu
22 Feb 2021 07:08
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800741

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

once we disengage from PTso what lever do we have to force PLA to comply is beyond me..( atleast from what is available on public fora)? from what i understood ..depsang is one end of the chain..PTso in the middle..demchok is the other end. i think the biggest loss of patrolling rights was in depsa...
by manjgu
21 Feb 2021 21:18
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014
Replies: 4440
Views: 1303457

Re: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014

A heavily insulated green house !!
by manjgu
21 Feb 2021 19:52
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800741

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

1) with the facts available in public fora.. if i were a chinese ( PLA) i would prefer a sector by sector approach to resolution with the sector where I ( PLA) is at the weakest to be resolved first. I heard Gen Joshi say depsang, demchok are legacy issues. Right.. but are not the political/military...
by manjgu
21 Feb 2021 09:08
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800741

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

once we disengage from PTso what lever do we have to force PLA to comply is beyond me..( atleast from what is available on public fora)? from what i understood ..depsang is one end of the chain..PTso in the middle..demchok is the other end. i think the biggest loss of patrolling rights was in depsan...
by manjgu
20 Feb 2021 21:11
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800741

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

even if we killled 1000000 hans in galwan they will manipulate the narrative... so we should just enjoy their antics. maybe after few months they will give medals to a few more and so on..
by manjgu
20 Feb 2021 09:12
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Terroristan - November 11, 2019
Replies: 2848
Views: 949687

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjFVPDbYSwY

a v interesting vid..Pervez hoodboy on Amjad Shoaib/ AQ Khan. AQ Khan calls PA a rouge army

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmXOws2okUk
by manjgu
20 Feb 2021 09:04
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800741

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

thats nice/interesting. it would be interesting to see where the PLA 'heavies' are moving to. From where did they come in Apr 2020? If i was negotiating , i would have focussed on areas other than Pangong first and come to pangong ( north/south) last. anyway lets see how the negotiations proceed fro...
by manjgu
19 Feb 2021 14:01
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800741

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

1) actually i am surprised to hear tanks at Rechin /Rezang la... is the gradient gentle enough for tanks to drive upto those heights or what? or is it flat ground around spanggur gap? 2) on the think on our feet aspect (eg kargil), that comes with huge loss of life. we must choose options which prev...
by manjgu
19 Feb 2021 08:14
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800741

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

what if tomorrow PLA in a quick move occupies heights on (Kailash range + top of F4) and comes in till f4... what will be indian response? though the Commanders on ground know best, i still feel we had some solid cards and gave it away for little.
by manjgu
18 Feb 2021 14:42
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800741

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

while the disengagement is welcome... i dont think we will get such an opportunity once again as right now...when we have our feet on their face/tail. my only grouse is that a more substantive disengagement/resolution should have been negotiated. anyway ...lets trust our political/mil leadership. Le...
by manjgu
16 Feb 2021 20:13
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Artillery Corps: News & Discussion
Replies: 3219
Views: 2078385

Re: Artillery Corps: News & Discussion

its not about IA.. if MOD babus want, even the gun i have in my backyard will be inducted !!
by manjgu
16 Feb 2021 20:11
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800741

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

i am wondering will the road track between f4 ..f8 also been demolished. or its pre Apr 2020? road track is of 1999 vintage. IA may have a reliable mechanism for keeping an eye on 4-8 area but its of no use really. they have a motorable track ..so it takes just 10 minutes to reach 4 from 8. what is ...
by manjgu
15 Feb 2021 08:37
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Replies: 7956
Views: 2252531

Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch

Pakis are special case. Their Military would be soon completely dependent on Chinese to maintain their edge against India and would be total hostage to Chinese. Plus its a country of sellouts. Sellouts everywhere who can be bought cheap. Its easy for Chinese to run the country like a puppet. Chines...
by manjgu
14 Feb 2021 20:29
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800741

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

vishnusom is free to work anywhere ... i thought he posted as vishnu ... quite clear that he was posting as vishnu.
by manjgu
13 Feb 2021 20:26
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Replies: 7956
Views: 2252531

Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch

Lisa good question. how a default would play out. That would depend on lot of factors : physical proximity of defaulting country to china, amount of default, kind of interest/pressure point available to china wrt country ( financial, strategic, political). SL .. they paid the debt with lease of 100 ...
by manjgu
13 Feb 2021 10:03
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Replies: 7956
Views: 2252531

Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch

the chinese ways are subtle not the slam bang all guns blazing US way.. chinese rely on bribing/honey trapping/working silently and influencing key people in political circles /academia /media /industry/ military / insurgent groups and working thru them to expand their footprint across the world. th...
by manjgu
13 Feb 2021 09:57
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Replies: 7956
Views: 2252531

Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch

The chinese surely knew that the SL port/airport cant generate so much revenue when they invested or even the nigerian railway ( and yet they bribed the politicians of the day ? a double whammy ... do u think the chinese are so dumb) ... the motives were not purely financial. First trap corrupt coun...
by manjgu
12 Feb 2021 21:54
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Replies: 7956
Views: 2252531

Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch

CPEC is the crown jewel of BRI..in terms of magnitude of investments / strategic physical location of pakistan.. with it China seeks to co opt India ( which failed)..subdue ( which also failed) .. gain a foothold in pakistan ( which it has)... slowly control pakistan ( which it will sooner or later)...
by manjgu
12 Feb 2021 21:38
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Replies: 7956
Views: 2252531

Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch

Bart S.. true.. to think that chinese script will go as planned will also be not be correct. there will be hiccups and provide us with moments / oppurtunities. the chinese script was the india will join CPEC and open a trade route ..but did not happen.
by manjgu
12 Feb 2021 21:36
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Replies: 7956
Views: 2252531

Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch

i dont buy the story that CPEC is answer to the Malacca dilemma.. the amount of trade one can carry on a road which is open 6 months a year in a area which is far away from their economic centres is piddly compared to what can be carried by sea. THe chinese have purposely put their footprint in coun...
by manjgu
12 Feb 2021 21:29
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Replies: 7956
Views: 2252531

Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch

how did chini gain control of SL port? How did the British control the resources/infra of India? it has already deployed quite a bit of monetary, human resources in pakistan ..CPEC is the crown jewel of the BRI ... in years to come they will extract their pound of flesh. and some of the moves are fo...
by manjgu
12 Feb 2021 20:40
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Replies: 7956
Views: 2252531

Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch

@Lisa..i think u r barking up the wrong tree. I dont think chini are interested in recovering money. they want ownership of pakistani resources/infra in lieu of debt. Dont the chini know about Paki economic condition and yet they are investing/lending. the kind of control now chini have over Paki is...
by manjgu
11 Feb 2021 12:47
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 5266
Views: 1800741

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

IF South bank is referred then its about kailash range...
by manjgu
07 Feb 2021 09:58
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
Replies: 5318
Views: 2150506

Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Russian political jaziya !! i think there is space for 1000+ LUH ( civil+military)... India shold be looking to export and investing profits in further R&D ... if we just think of our requirements then we are doing great injustice to ourselves..
by manjgu
05 Feb 2021 14:18
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Pakistan Armed Forces: News & Discussion
Replies: 2343
Views: 1024996

Re: Pakistan Armed Forces: News & Discussion Thread

Going by Kaiser tufail blog on kargil PAF ran out of gas very quickly without any real air fighting.. dont know what's the situation today
by manjgu
05 Feb 2021 14:14
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Pakistan Armed Forces: News & Discussion
Replies: 2343
Views: 1024996

Re: Pakistan Armed Forces: News & Discussion Thread

1. IAF has to cater to PAF ..PLAAF Singly or jointly fighting.2..PAF will be essentially fighting a defensive battle mostly under their radar cover over their territory with its plus minuses. 3. On paper SAM like s400 can be an offensive weapon if the advertised ranges really work. The paki military...