Bharat Rakshak

Misraji

This is U.S Army doctrine. Not necessary that we have to rely on the same. The LCH will also be hunting for tanks. Also pls mention the advantages of LCH. The ability to fight in high altitude areas is something that only LCH can do. :) (Taking a cue from the tank arguments, we cannot forget to men...

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^^^ Apache is a heavy duty gunship. It can survive hits from 23mm projectiles as opposed to 12.7mm of LCH It also has the Longbow radar while LCH does not have one (?? or I have not been able to find any). The longbow radar (pop up for attack then duck down behind cover) and the heavy armor should e...

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>> A-2-A opposition remains a problem for both PGMs vs Dumb-bombs true. but a lo-lo-lo bombing run will not need to climb to 10-15,000ft to drop the bombs assuming it ingressed through contested airspace at low level and intends to eggress that way again. one soln for PGM delivery from treetop leve...

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all the fancy PGM delivery we have seen on TV since desert storm has been against absolutely zero/minimal opposition from the ground other than AA gunnners and SAM operators firing away blindly at night after losing their radars and networks. looks cool. but cheen will throw a lot of J10 and Su27 i...

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Two very cool discussions on Paveway vs JDAM 1. Control Surfaces 2. JDAM general Salient points - JDAM has canards in front vs Fins in rear for Paveway - JDAM is primarily INS guided with GPS for correction (even without GPS it seems to reach its target effectively for 2000lb bomb) - Paveway was bui...

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chaanakya wrote: Well I have done the same. But not much online followers for me.

We do what we can. Military nut-jobs like us are hard to follow ....

--Ashish

Misraji

I have shared the amazon link to the book on my FB page with a recommendation.
If everybody does the same, that would be fairly effective.

--Ashish

Misraji

I was really stumped by the whole "narrative" bit on their email. I thought I had that bit covered, at least. Maybe they have other reasons for not picking up the book. They won't be the first one either. Others are calling it "controversial" as well. Point is, a British guy can...

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^^^
Whereas a Mk82 500 Lb bomb costs 267$ (circa 2000) according to Wiki.
There is something to be said about 2 orders of magnitude difference in cost.

--Ashish

Misraji

Kartik wrote:just 50 ?! What on earth is wrong with the IAF ?!

To play the devil's advocate, IAF bought roughly 100 Paveway 2's from LM in 2012.
Moreover, Paveway 2 has a cep of 3.6ft (1m) as opposed to Sudarshan which has cep of 30ft (10m).

In that light, 50 does not seem that small a number.

--Ashish

Misraji

vivek_ahuja wrote:Sent a ping. Pliss to check.
-Vivek

Responded. Appreciate that.

--Ashish

Misraji

You find them too wide? Why? Just going by the photos and relative dimensions, I suppose. It could be that they are not very tall and that gives them a stubby look. Speaking looks-wise (apologies, I am not an aerospace engineer) and relative dimension-wise, they seem like PAKFA's all moving tail + ...

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^^^
Awesome. Viva Amazon Prime !!! ..

@Vivek_Ahuja:

Vivek Saar, since you are an aerospace engineer, could you ping me a (hello dot misraji at gmail dot com).
I really needed some advice about aerospace engineering.

--Ashish

Misraji

Has the forum discussed anything about why the vertical stabilizers are so wide? -Ashish PS: As an aside, I needed some information from resident aerospace engineers. what branch of aerospace engineering deals with what we usually discuss with respect to fighter design? (Say) Discussions of aerodyna...

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Extremely educational posts, Karan_M and Kartik Saar. Thank you very much. It turns out that the IAF was fine with the F-404IN20 engine on the Mk1. They jumped on the IN’s requirement for a higher thrust engine and requested the IAF Mk2 variant. This line is a bit concerning. Is it that the choice o...

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Also, now would be a good time to tell me if you need additional resources at the end of the book so I can add what I can in there. Things such as nomenclature etc. Pretty pictures ... :mrgreen: I was only half joking actually. Pictures of weapon systems used (or weapon systems class : BMP/Pinaka r...

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Misraji HAL is doing its effing job. But they are not making mobile phones. Defense products takes its own time to develop and mature. Unfortunately IAF as no patience for it. Be it LCA, Kaveri, Dhruv, ALH, LCA, LUH, IJT, Basic HTT-40 etc etc all were started from scratch decades ago when the tech ...

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--SNIP-- If so, then why these bizarre claims of a "game which both sides must play"? --SNIP-- You may come up with glib statements about progress, about it being a game two sides can play and similar bizarre claims, but the fact of the matter is that the speech was clearly perceived by p...

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vivek_ahuja wrote:
Misraji wrote:I call that progress.
"We are not retreating! How absurd! We are simply advancing in the opposite direction with much gusto!" -Unknown.

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--Ashish

Misraji

If you disagree with that assessment, then I welcome you to pull that stunt in any professional industry, in a public setting. Be very aware then, that many of your partners will & can show their displeasure by various means. You wish to settle issues, do so privately. Its a rare thing for anyo...

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It doesn't work like that Misraji. Arre bhai if the system is not working I would sort it out in one-to-one dialogue with the supplier not ranting about it in public. IMHO IAF is being a crybaby here. Sagarji, What was not working was the way things were. This is a nice way to shake things up and g...

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It is a hit job & a stupid one at that. By attacking local industry in this manner, this man has directly impacted the export success of the very programs which if they scale up, will support the IAF's objectives as well. Further, if the case is that he had to use this international event to ma...

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But I will concede that this was a very well planned hit job by the IAF, so you may very well be correct in that there were no other avenues left for the IAF to air its voice internally within the system. And if true, is even more disturbing than this incident. I agree. That is THE disturbing part....

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What we don't get is the below-the-belt type attack that this ugly event was and I think that is where the IAF has really lost support from people such as myself. If this had come through media, everyone would have used the words, hit-job, paid-journalism, unnamed sources etc. The message would hav...

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PratikDas wrote:Where is the budget for after sales support?
Can you show me any references to CAG reports for after sales support budgets?

HUH? ...

I have no more points to make. Thanks.

--Ashish

Misraji

The problem is overstated, amplified, because the product doesn't come on time or with a cupholder. It is another matter that as far as India is concerned, the product had to be invented, not stolen. The talk has examples after examples of problems with a system AFTER induction. What exactly is bei...

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Misraji, yes the South American customers are having issues, so they thought the best way of expressing that would be to help HAL with photo ops of models packing the HAL built helicopter. My earlier disclaimer Of course, I am merely presenting a hypothesis. It may well not be true. Anyway. Thik ha...

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Misraji, do you think think South American companies don't have standards? I've worked in Mexico [Central America] on assignment for a very large and respected national company for 8 months. I was on my best behaviour because I thought they deserved it. Please don't detract from HAL's export succes...

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Because this is Aero India and other countries might just have been interested in buying HAL's products. More international orders for an Indian organisation would have meant streamlining of manufacturing methods, better manuals, support hotlines etc. If I was a customer willing to buy from HAL, th...

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What will HAL do with your respect ? They are more hurt by the disrespectful attitude of the presenter. The HAL guy rebutting the presenter with counter facts and guys clapping. The lady LCA R&D scientist saying they are being demotivated by the last 3-4 presentations. What IAF got by by making...

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An organisation with any sense of etiquette, since ethics would be too much to ask, would have chosen Antony's office for the blow by blow. Not meaning to dis-respectful, Pratik Saar. But one wonders how many times IAF must have raised this issue with MOD before they went public with this. And why ...

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Me agreeing with Austin on BRF.... :shock: :shock: :shock: :mrgreen: Vivek I am quite fine with IAF criticising the DPSU/R&D as long as they apply the same bench mark for phoren systems as well and looking at the criteria that IAF applied for its recent big ticket purchase it seems IAF wont tak...

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Misraji then I am afraid the situation will not improve. Till the time IAF doesn't realize how much hardship and time R&D takes place with the facilities and budget available in our country they will not connect with the product being developed indigenously.It is evident from the fact of variou...

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In literal sense they are but they need to be involved in every stage of development of a system . This is the added responsibility they need to take apart from being a customer. I am afraid I completely disagree. IAF needs to concentrate on war-fighting, not product development. Just because DPSUs...

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There is research and there is engineering. Research is proving results/features FEASIBILITY in strict test conditions. Research eliminates all the variables to just prove/disprove the existence of a particular result. Engineering on the other hand makes all such PROVEN results/features work togethe...

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I see. So the key points are loss of surprise (ingress/egress routes), less flexibility in types of missions and attrition reserves.
Awesome. Thanks for answer, Vivek + Singha sir.

--Ashish

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more awacs means better early warning of indian movements and plugging of all gaps where we could sneak through earlier. in parallel I am sure they are working on GMTI sensor on same an12 platform - everyone is . Are these "gaps" pre-planned or easily extra-polatable? Given that the borde...

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Vivek Saar, What exactly is it about the AWACS numbers that is concerning? What is the highest impact that the increasing numbers of AWACs would have on the battlefield? 1. Better surveillance that prevents tactics like - nap-of-earth flying. - Cruise missile 2. Better management of fighter packages...

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PLAAF 26th Air Division now is steadily increasing its asset holdings within the 76th ACCR, going by this picture. -Vivek Actually the link says that they belong to 2nd Specialized Division, PLANAF. Above. Wouldn't that make a difference in their roles/areas of responsibilities? There is some discu...

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