Bharat Rakshak

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Please revise your figures. Our contract was for license assembly of 140 aircraft (augmented by a later order of 40 more). Of those almost half (Phase I-III) have been built from SKD and CKD kits. It wasn't until Phase IV that the production was indigenized. Even assuming a more aggressive effort f...

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It is imho, because the threat isn't just from the J-31, its from a combination of J-31's, J-20's at the upper end, Flanker clones and the emerging Su-35's and the Super Flanker Clone that will naturally follow from it on the lower end. Given the fact that they spend so much more then India on Nati...

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I am going to merge some of your comments before replying as we are saying the same thing two three times in same post Of course we did that 14 years ago. I'm not assuming anything. That's how licensed production has always proceeded. We got 50 of an order of 300, does not mean we will also get 50 o...

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The F-35/JSF was designed from the outset to be a joint program. That adds time. They reached a commonality threshold below which they would not go, as a result even though the three PDR's and CDR's were spread out over years, essentially the earliest reviews could not be completed until a large po...

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Su-30MKI plus Tejas. There's no improvement over the existing setup that the Rafale confers, that can't be obtained far cheaper through consultancy on contract. And you determined this how? Can you tell me what features of the Tejas are a spin-off from the Su-30MKI? The experience of manufacturing ...

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And we'll be importing components for the Rafale as well. In fact, the first few dozen Rafales delivered by will be mere assemblies of SKDs and CKDs. The first 18 yes, you are assuming for the rest. We didn't even do that 14 years ago and our industry has improved with Su30MKI experience. Doesn't c...

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We already do that. Before Su30MKI? We didn't come out with our version of the Su-35S. So its not the 'same thing'. Super Sukhoi upgrade features are also spin offs of Su35 and PAKFA. 'Our learnings' will be be applied on 'our fighters'. Are you claiming the LCA manufacturing has received zero bene...

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OSF and PIRATE both have ability to track targets 50km out. That's hardly WVR.

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The MKI still imports ingots of some alloys from Russia. India can do it. Russia just does it more cheaply. Simple. I have already stated that an Indian expensive alternative > Foreign cheaper dependence. If we have the raw material we should look to have the whole part made in India. Expensive at ...

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Here is my take on Sunni Islamic problem in the world today Most nations which have a Sunni population of over 5%, have instances where they start demanding for their religious rights. You see instances like 1. People praying publicly in parking lots, office conference rooms etc... with no regard to...

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NO ToT will ensure a 100% made in India. It cannot. There is bound to be a few things that are cheaper to get from the native nation. Cheaper yes, but w.r.t defense a local, bit more expensive, component is better than dependence on another nation. On supply chain, the complexity comes in when a su...

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1. What did we 'learn' from the Su-30MKI? Local manufacturing for 4th gen aircraft. 2. The Russians designed the Su-30MKI, why didn't they 'learn' the same thing? Su-35BM. They has already learned the remaining things. 3. Assuming they 'learnt' the same thing, why didn't they incorporate it into th...

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NRao wrote:So, the FGFA can rely on the MKI and the F-35 has nothing to lean on? (Please keep this to yourself, the US has had 3-4 full-fledged "stealth" efforts prior to the F-35, Russia has had .......... none.)

Erm .. Mig 1.44 ... prototype flew in 2000.

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We already have a supply chain servicing two 4th gen aircraft - Su-30MKI & Tejas. The 'generation' of an aircraft is not dependent on its weight class. No we don't ... several components of both are still imported. Both are fully assembled in India. - HAL is producing more Sukhois annually, tha...

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I am surprised to see so many posts on ToT not mentioning the below 1. ToT will not be useful just for Rafale. It is not limited to designing Rafale's production line in HAL. It will allow us to develop local supply chain and jump from 0 to 4.5 generation in medium aircraft category 2. Rafale ToT is...

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MANNY K wrote:Sloppy journalism they showed a Sukhoi and called it a J31 Chinese stealth fighter. LOL this journalis does not know what he is talking about...

Did you stop watching after the first few seconds?

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My wishlist 1. Develop local supply chain at all levels. With exception of engine, everything for combat aircraft should be through a local supply chain 2. Engine tech should develop with a target such that All 4th gen post 2025 should have Kaveri when they are either produced 3. IAC-2 nuclear propu...

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you still think so even when Chinese now is marketing J31 in Zhuhai aircraft show now? I would not call J31 an original plane. And it is completely unproven. It is impossible to believe the Chinese overcame all the problems which a 5th gen plane like JSF faced when they have zero originality in 3rd...

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NRao wrote:Just when you think you have run out of ideas:

Pentagon wants ideas for flying aircraft carrier

How about something like Avengers1

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^^^ Agree with your numbers, which is why I see us short in destroyer department. Current design looks to be 64 LRSAMs per destroyer, we need 4 of these to give effective primary SAM missile screen for the carrier, with the frigates providing the secondary.

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What next for Natasha are they going to sell Mig 35 or Su 35 too ? :roll: .....but I would not be to worried the Porkis are broke. Russians are shooting themselves in the foot. The Chinese will stop buying from them within next decade and the TSPians can only barter in food or terrorists. Downgradi...

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if we want to go beyond 60k+ tons, then we need nuclear. Its even more costly to afford such a huge ship with conventional stuff. We should have good number of nuclear boats operational before Vishal is commissioned, which should drive down cost and also give us valuable experience.

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Copying was a phase through which China passed in the last century. They are now designing their own systems. J20/31 and the Y series transport aircrafts seems to be original designs. They are also progressing in naval designs. 1. They essentially copied 4G aircraft Russian Sukhoi tech 2. Majority ...

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^^^^ You would still need multiple production lines to produce so many copies Bandar: Mig21 upgrade J-10: Lavi (either steal or sold from Israelis) J-11: Su-27 copy J-15: Su33 copy J-16: Su30MKK copy The J-16 is suppossed to be the most advanced of these and it lags considerably behind the Super Suk...

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@srin
+1
Also adds the possibility of future Kolkatta class carrying more than 64 for single salvo.

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Cosmo_R wrote:This would bring it line with the QE Class @ ~$4 billion but which are 25K tonnes heavier.
DO the numbers make sense?

First time for us vs nth time for them?

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This is what the production rate plan is: 4 -> 2014-15 6 -> 2015-16 9 -> 2016-17 12 -> 2017-18 12 per year capacity -> post 2017-18 You can add a few months after production complete for delivery to the IAF since quality/validation testings need to occur prior to handover. Thanks This schedule make...

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The current line is 'rated' for 12 aircraft per year IIRC. It can probably be increased further if the backing for the same were to come from the MoD and IAF. Yes, but the projected delivery from public sources is being slated at 8, max 10. If IAF increases Mk1 orders post FOC then I am all for tak...

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Can anybody tell me how many Destroyers, Frigates, Minesweepers, Subs & other ships are required as minimum operational requirement. and Are we nearer to it or just like IAF required 45sq and having 32sq IMHO 1. Numbers depend on how many CSG are fielded. We need 3-4 destroyers for air defence,...

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Suraj wrote:1. Functional defence minister.

Addressed

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2014-15: 2 2015-16: 6 2016-17: 12 2017-18: 12 2018-19: 8 2019-20: 0 2020-21: 0 Where are you getting 12 from? The rate is projected to being 8-10 through the Mk1 production. The fact that Mirage and Jaguars are going through upgrades for next few years may also contribute to this. If Mk2 is develop...

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As far as the US goes there are two constants: 1) Slide into authoritarianism and facism. Regardless of which side of the political spectrum each parties fall. --> Internal and external impact 2) Anti Indic/Anti-Pagan stance and subtle but pervasive racism. --> External impact These two will remain...

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They may go for building trainers in the intermediate ....

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Will wrote:Now which part of the barak-8 does DRDO make? Heard it was the propulsion. Anything else from DRDO?

This makes the speed part even stranger since we already have a faster Akash missile ...

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How come speed is only Mach 2 for an interceptor?
ESSM is Mach 4+

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It's a slippery slope here - Any changes we want on Rafale - compatibility with other desi,russian missiles means paying in EUROs to OEM. They will obviously do their best to dissuade us from using anything other than thier own Euro built i.e. jack up any change cost to account for lost profits and...

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Don't know where you got your info on the CM-400AKG being a 400 kg missile..it weighs 940 kgs as per Janes, but not sure what the warhead weight is. JF-17 flying with CM-400AKG ASM That was just a joke on the info on Wiki And even with 910 kg, a 100-240km range hypersonic missile is impossible to b...

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^^^ I think the critics want to see a good 5 squadron commitment from IAF on LCA1 also

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Totally agree on cost part, but I believe in 40 year life cycle, its better to have them fire desi weapons even though we have to spend some extra moolah for it ...

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