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by Bade
19 Jul 2017 09:02
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

It is raining in the mountains for the next 10 days. Expect no action at least for two weeks.
by Bade
19 Jul 2017 08:51
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

^^ they can use their Mi17 helis to airlift troops into doklam after the long sword missile attack. would the Chumbi valley be spared then by India ? So getting to Doklam via airlift gives them not much. Why cannot they be targeted subsequently by India at Doklam by standoff missiles ? This could b...
by Bade
19 Jul 2017 08:40
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Bhutan was getting friendlier with China, and still China attacked Bhutan...well there was not much to attack, just grab their land. So if Nepal is getting friendlier with China like Bhutan then it can also expect at least a land grab, to preempt any Indian moves there. Chumbi valley is the way for ...
by Bade
19 Jul 2017 08:06
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

So they are amassing all those forces in North Tibet to attack Nepal. :eek: Coming to think of it, this might be their ploy, while India is distracted by Doklam standoff. This is the best time for them to make for Nepal and grab some territory which they specialize in. In any case they are also givi...
by Bade
19 Jul 2017 07:11
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Can anyone explain Mamta's flip flop. Is she on Chinese rolls ? Earlier it was China threat to Gorkhaland movement, now she is saying something different. At least the communists have not changed their story line. Or is that their meeting with Rahul did not gain dividends, so they are trying Mamata ...
by Bade
18 Jul 2017 17:50
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Of course in a war scenario, we would use both Nepal and Bangladesh for access. No doubts about it, even if you do not read it in the press.

Even when Tibetans were air dropped (?) or sent to Bangladesh in '71 in Chittagong, Myanmar was used I believe.
by Bade
18 Jul 2017 08:05
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Was watching a video of a Chinese tv interview of MD Nalapat and two other Chinese Profs, the Chinese academics were complete hawks when compared to Nalapat. If they want war, then as Chola says we should give them war. The entire Chinese society is so steeped in their own bile, that they believe an...
by Bade
18 Jul 2017 06:47
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

It is ok to believe one should not go to war, because a decisive win is uncertain always. But I do not understand why people who are not sure of a win now, want to whine about previous governments for not doing the same. They must have also come to the same conclusion during their time, not to escal...
by Bade
16 Jul 2017 23:39
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Gorkhaland has to expand further to the west to Nepal, to make it an effective strategy. One of the issues is that west Sikkim has significant Nepali population, so Sikkim may not go with the idea as it might impact them too.
by Bade
16 Jul 2017 23:18
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Like I said, Bhutan has to cede to India just the tri-junction area adjoining the tip of the dagger on its side of the valley till the Doklam plateau where they are willing to cede land to China, and perhaps we can all call it a day for now at least. This way the Siliguri corridor gains some more wi...
by Bade
16 Jul 2017 22:43
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Also Global Times cannot make up its mind. Too many heads talking at odds with each other ? http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/china-should-keep-calm-about-indias-rise-global-times/articleshow/59621523.cms "China should be calm seeing India's rise. To cope with competition from India, Chi...
by Bade
16 Jul 2017 22:27
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Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

At best it can be classified as a testing the waters mission, perhaps....but they put it on their website. So all official only from what one can tell. I am sure such visits are common to such destinations.
by Bade
16 Jul 2017 22:20
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

So this was before the current unrest.

That looks like a perfect tourist picture with everyone smiling, with no signs of tension.
by Bade
16 Jul 2017 22:07
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
Replies: 10352
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Can't we demolish the roads they built while they retreat in the winter? We can occupy the entire disputed area and prevent them from returning. Why not use the same roads to enter Chumbi valley and cut them off entirely (from Haa valley) at first sign of Spring if they do that instead. Will have a...
by Bade
16 Jul 2017 22:03
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

So why would the Chinese ambassador be given permission to visit the Darjeeling DM and Mamata when Mamata is at loggerheads with the Gorkhaland movement ? This sounds more like a cock and bull story to me. If he went to Darjeeling post June 9th, then he had to be escorted by Bengal Police all the wa...
by Bade
16 Jul 2017 17:42
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

We are there all year round controlling DoKa La and Batang La We are just next door in Sikkim, but if it snows in the plateau, then the Chinese have no place to go except the steep slopes toward Yadong to retreat to for safety. So we can supply Doka La all year long, not so for them. I predict they...
by Bade
16 Jul 2017 07:16
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

As I said much earlier, if India does not take control of the valley to the south of the tri-junction point, it will become disastrous in the long run. The fight is for the valley from the Chinese point of view, the ridges are just temporary points to capture and claim rights further downstream late...
by Bade
16 Jul 2017 06:58
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

If one follows the river valley south to Bhutan from Yadong, it is headed straight to India across Bhutan. That is where the Chinese are headed. It is time to ask Bhutan to give us two districts around the tri-junction point till the Doklam plateau ( on the east side of Chumbi valley) which is shown...
by Bade
16 Jul 2017 06:01
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

That is a plausible argument to explain their anger. After all the roads took some time to build and India was quiet then. But when it came to inking the deal, and Bhutan having informed India of its intention things went awry for the Chinese. This might also explain the confusion regarding the loca...
by Bade
16 Jul 2017 03:17
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Borders are not agreed upon solely based on past history, but also current threat perceptions. So the fact that Doklam may have been technically even Tibetan territory is meaningless as it now does not exist as a country. What should get priority is Indian security concerns, which are even greater t...
by Bade
16 Jul 2017 01:47
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

^^^ what is intriguing about the CPM official stand (if true) on this issue is that among their foot soldiers at least ( a few I had conversations with) do not share this camaraderie with China, as they see China in the same light at the US. These are not people in power but long term local leaders....
by Bade
16 Jul 2017 00:00
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

On Sikkim they played in '62, '67 and '86 and lost, so they settled the borders except the tri-junction. It should have been settled then for that junction point too.
by Bade
15 Jul 2017 23:13
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
Replies: 10352
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

The ugly truth is that to a fight a war, the strength of the economy does not scale linearly forever in your favor and China knows this. At lower levels like in the 1962 era, it mattered perhaps more though both countries were at similar levels then. Now for the last decade or so both have reached a...
by Bade
15 Jul 2017 22:16
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

^^ They do not care about their own citizens well being in the pursuit of larger strategic goals. Even the USA cannot do all it wishes to do like them with no holds barred. But the Chinese veiled threat to creating trouble in Kashmir via their media spokespeople is rather bewildering. It gives the p...
by Bade
15 Jul 2017 20:36
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

By mid June India had restricted all access to Nathu La and even Tsongo lake (approx 15 miles from Gangtok) for tourists. No way any information on actual troop locations is shared with the public. Everything around the Corp HQ in the city looked normal...was even close to one location at the highes...
by Bade
15 Jul 2017 20:31
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Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

There is no way to verify it unless you are willing to spend money in buying publicly available land imagery from the west. You cannot get that in India for sure. A time series of such ones over the year will yield some information. You are asking for classified information.
by Bade
15 Jul 2017 20:24
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Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Why not put up Free Tibetan flags at all border locations with China. :-) It must be set high enough to be visible to their soldiers as a constant reminder. That sort of propaganda should not cost much at all.
by Bade
15 Jul 2017 19:47
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Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

The standoff in Sikkim (Doklam) will have its counter reaction in J&K via Chinese proxies. So the action has shifted to the western front as it is a stalemate on the eastern front for the time being.
by Bade
15 Jul 2017 19:22
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Chinese potential interference is a given with their presence in PoK and the CPEC dreams through it. I am sure the center is aware of it and now the state of J&K is allowed to air the concerns. This also gives Mufti some breathing space.
by Bade
15 Jul 2017 18:53
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Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

There will be no war, till we want one. Chola is right of course, but Indians are not ready for war for sure, unless imposed upon them by China. The media in China is toning down a bit, but it means like in Siachen will have to dig in and stay put for both sides, which both do in any case so nothing...
by Bade
11 Jul 2017 17:46
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Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

It is amazing to see how political affiliation has clouded analysis and a major reading is perhaps missed due to it. The fact that the Chinese ambassador met with someone outside of the govt, tells me that they are in de-escalation from a war that their media is ranting for the last three weeks. Why...
by Bade
10 Jul 2017 06:07
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Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Bangladesh case is peculiar, and I find it quite odd the reluctance in Bengal to part with the hills, but at the same time not wanting to get back Bangladesh, which is more closer ethnically and linguistically with the rest of Bengal. It is religious bigotry driving the divide there which again coul...
by Bade
10 Jul 2017 05:56
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Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

In one of the blogs from Bhutan, they seem to be willing to let go of the Doklam plateau area at least, just as they forfeited their rights to the peaks in the Northern borders, to either India or China. This is the crux of the issue and China wants it now. Either way Bhutan will lose its sovereignt...
by Bade
10 Jul 2017 05:12
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Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

On the pak front India already engages its enemy forces with firepower in encounters, Chinese PLA is welcome to become targets if they volunteer as mercenaries.
by Bade
10 Jul 2017 03:55
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Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Beijing cannot find support even among its diaspora in the western media on its ranting and raving. No one seems to view the issue from their point of view alone. They must feel isolated, so sad. https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonchang/2017/07/09/chinese-troops-probe-india-this-could-be-chinas-next...
by Bade
10 Jul 2017 02:54
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Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

The population of Bhutan is almost half of that of Dharavi in Mumbai. So by taking it over not much of poverty addition to what exists in India already. If India is already spending in providing for security and integrity of Bhutan the additional expenses are minor compared to strategic gains. Nepal...
by Bade
10 Jul 2017 02:38
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Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Bhutan may be ready for such a tighter arrangement, similar to Sikkim. It is just a function of the threat level they perceive from China. It still needs to be remembered that they did send out Nepalis living in Bhutan out of their country. So it may not be as smooth as Sikkim. West Sikkim has a sub...
by Bade
09 Jul 2017 00:12
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Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Its an attacking posture when there's no chance of being attacked (as the PLA assume), I'd like to see how convoys in the valley deal with for e.g. air strikes. Yes, you are right partly and it works perfectly when you do this against a weaker adversary. But even otherwise it is easier to stay in t...
by Bade
08 Jul 2017 23:42
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Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Reading up on the Bhutan-China border disputes (from the link in Rvats blog) , it seems the Chinese always go for the valleys (two of them even in North Bhutan for future inroads to be made if needed), whereas India seems happy to keep the ridges. Keeping the ridges is a defensive posture, whereas m...