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- 15 Sep 2019 10:47
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
- Replies: 4649
- Views: 1807475
Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
1.The recent (under) performance of the KLJ-7/SD-10 combo in the Balakote event apart... 2.We also know the PAF went for more Erieyes to bolster its inventory and has deployed ZDK-03s away from the conflict. Again, these are CETC units, China's premier radar designer & this also speaks for itse...
- 06 Sep 2019 22:59
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Pakistan Armed Forces: News & Discussion
- Replies: 2343
- Views: 1023050
Re: Pakistan Armed Forces: News & Discussion Thread
Yes, that would be a good use for them.nam wrote:These Mirages could be for their "other war". Bombing mud houses in Baluchistan and NWFP. Reduce air-frame time of their crown jewels.
- 06 Sep 2019 22:58
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
- Replies: 5318
- Views: 2139094
Re: Indian Military Helicopters
Development apart, they then need to be price negotiated. As we have seen so far with the LCA, and Akash, that process can take up to 3 years for domestic systems. Pinaka Mk2, Akash Mk1S, Nag, Arjun Mk2, Arudhra radars are all in the "pipeline" as they are being price negotiated. No clear...
- 06 Sep 2019 21:12
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Pakistan Armed Forces: News & Discussion
- Replies: 2343
- Views: 1023050
Re: Pakistan Armed Forces: News & Discussion Thread
From internet, these are air worthy and will be quite a handful in attack role. Despite the advanced air defenses now available to the Indian Army formations? Don't you think that's an overstatement about the attack capabilities of these old Mirages? What equipment do they have that would allow the...
- 06 Sep 2019 21:08
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016
- Replies: 5322
- Views: 1836651
Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016
Let me pose a question here that, to my knowledge, does not get enough discussion, but which bothers me to no end: I get the distinct feeling that the IAF likes to concentrate its crown jewels (especially those limited by numbers) to key locations during peacetime. Some examples: 1. Apaches being co...
- 06 Sep 2019 20:39
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
- Replies: 4649
- Views: 1807475
Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
Looks like the Copy Hawk is in service. ... It took them 30 years to clone the S-70C but they finally did it. lol I don't think this is a LOL moment. 30 years to catch up to near-current chopper tech is not bad. 30 years is what it took us to catch up to fighter tech as well. Besides, if no war has...
- 06 Sep 2019 20:14
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Indian Naval Aviation
- Replies: 2818
- Views: 886200
Re: Indian Naval Aviation
Send the natives shivering! This is a classic " my d*ck is bigger than yours" syndrome! We can field dozens of land- based MKIs , Rafales and perhaps SU-57s apart from whatever carrier aviation we also possess. A network of sats will provide real- time data of enemy CBGs. for our platform...
- 06 Sep 2019 20:05
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
- Replies: 5318
- Views: 2139094
Re: Indian Military Helicopters
if we are in a shooting match with the chinese, trust the apaches will be busy on the western sector. I hope u know what i mean. I do know what you mean, but I reject this implicit assumption that a Chinese match will automatically include their Paki pets. The Pakis are known for being backstabbers...
- 06 Sep 2019 20:02
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
- Replies: 5318
- Views: 2139094
Re: Indian Military Helicopters
LCH will have thousands of its missiles in the warehouse Can you point me to some sources showing what purchases we have made or have planned to make for these missiles? What numbers have been purchased or earmarked for purchase? Which model of missile has been selected? We have exact numbers for t...
- 06 Sep 2019 09:11
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Russian Weapons & Military Technology
- Replies: 2093
- Views: 638515
Re: Russian Weapons & Military Technology
I recently saw the new Mi-38 being offered by the Mil folks. Pretty bird: https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_xYAmjaa0Wk/XAanZE8Om9I/AAAAAAAAdnE/gjKAzFYmEYE0RmJlyjYwbKNR09bsfpGlwCLcBGAs/s1600/mi-38%2B2.jpg Its a nice replacement (and more) for the Mi-17. And perhaps even the usual phoregn competitor for the...
- 06 Sep 2019 08:43
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
- Replies: 5318
- Views: 2139094
Re: Indian Military Helicopters
The one image that answers the questions about the LoooongBow Radar. yes we did get but not all have it nor do all need it. Would love a word about this from Vivek_Ahuja about right now. Khalsa: I think the original discussion we have had in the previous pages is still valid here. Unless these Long...
- 06 Sep 2019 08:39
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
- Replies: 5318
- Views: 2139094
Re: Indian Military Helicopters
The Ka-226 is another one of the geopolitical buys from Russia in the same way that the Apache is from the USA. I wonder if the armed forces also push for these sales as a way of applying pressure on homegrown projects to speed up their programs or lose out. Can't blame them if that is the motive. I...
- 06 Sep 2019 08:34
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
- Replies: 5318
- Views: 2139094
Re: Indian Military Helicopters
https://twitter.com/HALHQBLR/status/1169519371263201280 ---> Light Utility Helicopter Clears High Weather Tests at Himalayas. How cool is the visualization of the engine exhaust being bent vertically down after leaving the engine by the rotor downwash ? 8) Probably cooling and dissipating the exhau...
- 06 Sep 2019 08:27
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Indian Naval Aviation
- Replies: 2818
- Views: 886200
Re: Indian Naval Aviation
I admire how the posters on this thread are discussing the navy's needs in defeating the upcoming Chinese carriers using P-8I, UAVs, anti-ship missiles etc. In other words: countermeasures. And to pay for these countermeasures, we are willing to give up our own carriers. However, remember that the I...
- 20 Aug 2019 02:47
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
- Replies: 5318
- Views: 2139094
Re: Indian Military Helicopters
I also hope that they qualify the LCH to fire the Hellfire missiles being procured in bulk for the Apaches. We should never be in a situation where the LCH has run out of stores for its ATGMs up in the mountains, but a pile of Hellfires is sitting around in warehouses for parked Apaches that cannot ...
- 20 Aug 2019 02:45
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
- Replies: 5318
- Views: 2139094
Re: Indian Military Helicopters
Its not just the aerodynamic shaping that is the issue. It matters if they changed that circular pole underneath that aerodynamic fairing. If not, then that shaping would not benefit the structural limits. On the other hand, if they removed the circular pole altogether, and replaced it with, say, a...
- 20 Aug 2019 02:44
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
- Replies: 5318
- Views: 2139094
Re: Indian Military Helicopters
Will a heavier payload if the spar can accommodate extra ordnance impose significant penalties with respect to the helo's performance? Range, speed, endurance, etc.? Perhaps why the "L" is in the name. Yes. An LCH carrying 16 ATGMs is not going to be flying nearly as high in the mountains...
- 20 Aug 2019 00:27
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
- Replies: 5318
- Views: 2139094
Re: Indian Military Helicopters
...a Mk-2 LCH ( we seriously need to drop "Light" from the name ) will be a perfect candidate... Agree. The "Light" in the name always seems to start off innocently in Indian R&D activities and then always, without fail, bites us in the ass down the line when that moniker se...
- 20 Aug 2019 00:25
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
- Replies: 5318
- Views: 2139094
Re: Indian Military Helicopters
LCH boom went through iterations. Initially it was designed to maximize stealth. The drag was found to be too high. So, they went to an aerofoil design to reduce drag. Around 2011, it was revealed that it won't add any lift. But, the current design has been optimized to generate lift. So, this shou...
- 15 Aug 2019 09:18
- Forum: Military Issues Archive
- Topic: Modi Appoints Chief of Defence Staff (CDS): News and Discussions
- Replies: 216
- Views: 110826
- 15 Aug 2019 09:14
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
- Replies: 5318
- Views: 2139094
Re: Indian Military Helicopters
HAL video from Aero-India states that the pylons ("armament boom")for the LCH are " very different" from the ALH and that the weapons restrictions are only a function of the weight capacity of these structures (i.e. the electronics/LIU etc. are scale-able). Also states that the L...
- 15 Aug 2019 08:49
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
- Replies: 5318
- Views: 2139094
Re: Indian Military Helicopters
Who is a structural designer here? I think the principal parts of Helina quad launcher can be made out of aluminum or graphite epoxy and only the tubes which can be replaced made out of steel. The attach pylon can be machined from Aluminum plate. @Ramana: It is not just a structural issue, as I fou...
- 15 Aug 2019 02:44
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
- Replies: 5318
- Views: 2139094
Re: Indian Military Helicopters
A couple of Apache, one with longbow radar guiding 6 LCH will be a deadly combo while in highly contested battlefield only Apache are used. This would be ideal, but as Indranil has said: there is skepticism on the efficacy of this, given that no information exists that the Apaches are going to be n...
- 15 Aug 2019 02:38
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
- Replies: 5318
- Views: 2139094
Re: Indian Military Helicopters
Rudra carry only twin launcher due to low ground clearance. Yes. I think quad launchers on the Rudra is not feasible. And not necessary either, IMO. It does not need to act as a full-up attack helo. The max combat wing load for LCH is 800 kg and apache is 1400 kg. Higher load may be carried at the ...
- 14 Aug 2019 23:47
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
- Replies: 5318
- Views: 2139094
Re: Indian Military Helicopters
CH has not been flown with quad launchers. There has been some discussion but no firm push as the user has not provided that requirement. The problem is not structural strength. AFAIK each hardpoint is rated at 250 kgs. It should be noted that not only are we talking about quad-launcher capacity pe...
- 14 Aug 2019 21:58
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
- Replies: 5318
- Views: 2139094
Re: Indian Military Helicopters
BTW, it seems pretty clear to me that the IAF is deploying the Apaches at Pathankot quite literally opposite the Pak armor forces at Shakargarh bulge under 1 Corps (as Rohitvats has said): https://i.ibb.co/Ctj4Cqw/Pathankot.png The geographical distance between the border and Pathankot is about ~40 ...
- 14 Aug 2019 21:31
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
- Replies: 5318
- Views: 2139094
Re: Indian Military Helicopters
I don't think it is correct to say that a souped-up LCH is good enough to match Apache. A souped-up LCH with all the bells and whistles as Apache is no longer LCH but a dedicated medium/heavy category helicopter gunship. We should keep comparison between as-is LCH and Apaches. Plus, what other incr...
- 14 Aug 2019 19:38
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
- Replies: 5318
- Views: 2139094
Re: Indian Military Helicopters
- In both of the above areas, we will see massive concentration of armor. Between the two armies, each sector could witness ~1,000 tanks deployed. - So, long story short, don't underestimate the importance of a heavy attack helicopter in plains. I think your point about the heavy hitter requirement...
- 14 Aug 2019 19:18
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
- Replies: 5318
- Views: 2139094
Re: Indian Military Helicopters
Hi Vivek do you still have those analyses you did on LCA and LCH on your blog ? The old blog seems to have gone down. I just looked it up online and all those articles are collated here: http://thebetacoefficient.blogspot.com For this thread, the specific LCH article is here: http://thebetacoeffici...
- 14 Aug 2019 07:40
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
- Replies: 5318
- Views: 2139094
Re: Indian Military Helicopters
Since everyone here was raving about one Apache being more than the sum of two LCHs, I thought to myself: "boy, I must be completely missing something!" So I went back and redid some calculations from the old articles I had written on this stuff. One of the earlier plots I had made include...
- 14 Aug 2019 07:07
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
- Replies: 5318
- Views: 2139094
Re: Indian Military Helicopters
Has there been any information about the networking connectivity between the Longbow system and the equipment carried by the rest of the Indian military (UAVs, Netra, Phalcon, etc.)? In other words, do we know whether the Apache will be team player within the Indian military setup or whether it will...
- 14 Aug 2019 06:39
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
- Replies: 5318
- Views: 2139094
Re: Indian Military Helicopters
Looking deeper into the Apache sale for the army (6 helos) and IAF (22 helos), you get the following info on the web: Included in the package for the 6 IA Apaches: 14 T700-GE-701D engines, 4 AN/APG-78 fire control radars (Longbow) 4 Block III radar electronic units (REU) 4 AN/APR-48B modernized rada...
- 14 Aug 2019 06:23
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
- Replies: 5318
- Views: 2139094
Re: Indian Military Helicopters
Fair enough on the Longbow. Rotor-mast stabilization for radar systems is indeed one of the measure of system maturity in rotorcraft. And the Longbow is the result of decades of Apache development activities. But it still leads to some awkward questions in the Indian context (reiterating some of the...
- 14 Aug 2019 04:07
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
- Replies: 5318
- Views: 2139094
Re: Indian Military Helicopters
It is utterly fascinating to see the levels of contortion that posters here will resort to try and defend the Apache purchase. Empirically speaking, there are following factors when comparing these helos: 1. Operating altitudes : can the helo operate with sufficient payloads in the Himalayas? If not...
- 20 Mar 2019 23:09
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Possible Indian Military Scenarios - XIV
- Replies: 157
- Views: 63698
Re: Possible Indian Military Scenarios - XIV
I would urge you to continue with that scenario and if you still think no, then lets have another scenario that revolves around calling the Pak Nuclear Bluff. I think there is much to be said for the scenario that I was pursuing with Cerberus. Since its already 150+ pages in, lets take it further t...
- 20 Mar 2019 23:06
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Possible Indian Military Scenarios - XIV
- Replies: 157
- Views: 63698
Re: Possible Indian Military Scenarios - XIV
Doklam was so close. It would have been an overwhelming victory for us of it had kicked off, Vivek ji. Please write what could have been. At the time of Doklam we had 10 divisions and 250K men to their three brigades (around 7K each.) And the PLAAF had only 8 fighters on the plateau at the time. (O...
- 20 Mar 2019 23:01
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Possible Indian Military Scenarios - XIV
- Replies: 157
- Views: 63698
Re: Possible Indian Military Scenarios - XIV
I've just written my first book - in a similar genre as Vivek ji (see my separate thread). I've been a big fan and Vivek's work was one of the reasons I was inspired to quit my day job and do the things I've always wanted to . Good to see him back on BRF ! :shock: Well then! The work done here has ...
- 15 Mar 2019 11:29
- Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
- Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
- Replies: 4649
- Views: 1807475
Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
Chola: I just wanted to add my two cents to the work you do in keeping tabs on the Chinese military enhancements. Keep up the good work. It has made this thread the one-stop shop for the latest tid-bits of information coming out of China for those of us who lack the time to scour the net forums and ...
- 15 Mar 2019 11:21
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
- Replies: 4234
- Views: 1238184
Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
The PAF F-16s fired AMRAAM missiles that the IAF was able to dodge without losses. Mig-21s were able to close to R-73 ranges and bring one down. I think this should put the mythology of the AMRAAM to rest for the dhoti-shiverers on our side, no? I can only wonder about the morale impact of this one ...
- 15 Mar 2019 11:11
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Possible Indian Military Scenarios - XIV
- Replies: 157
- Views: 63698
Re: Possible Indian Military Scenarios - XIV
Khalsa-saar: Thanks for kicking this to the top. These post-Balakot days are interesting times where the scenarios of this thread are superseded by the events of the real world! Gone are the days of authors like myself writing cathartic military scenarios in the reign of spineless national leaders. ...