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by nrshah
18 Nov 2010 21:35
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: MRCA Discussion - October 2, 2010
Replies: 3205
Views: 886672

Re: MRCA Discussion - October 2, 2010

Ya.... My mistake... Regretted...

Mods.- if you please delete the related unwanted posts...
by nrshah
18 Nov 2010 19:36
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
Replies: 3950
Views: 1294754

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

do you really need DG to use blackjack... the kind of range this bird has got with Air refueling available , it hardly matters where it is based...
by nrshah
18 Nov 2010 18:52
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: MRCA Discussion - October 2, 2010
Replies: 3205
Views: 886672

Re: MRCA Discussion - October 2, 2010

The link above says the cost of MMRCA is 10 billion pounds... Which going by current forex rate is 16 Bn USD...
by nrshah
18 Nov 2010 17:18
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
Replies: 3950
Views: 1294754

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

What additional benefits DG or Guam will give us that cannot be achieved from say Andaman and Lakshya deep chains.. Besides, we can have berthing and fueling arrangements with Maldives, Madagascar where we already have listening posts and other defense arrangements.. Also, we can look forward for Si...
by nrshah
18 Nov 2010 17:06
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: MRCA Discussion - October 2, 2010
Replies: 3205
Views: 886672

Re: MRCA Discussion - October 2, 2010

If the LCA was in production I would plump for more LCAs,but from all available info,govt. statements too,the max number that will be produced per year will be 8-10 at the very most and this only after the MK-2 is perfected,a task which now involves the redesign of the fuselage,etc.,making the airc...
by nrshah
18 Nov 2010 16:50
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: MRCA Discussion - October 2, 2010
Replies: 3205
Views: 886672

Re: MRCA Discussion - October 2, 2010

F 16 IN is not the end of F 16 but the start he says. I wonder what more they can put into that airframe :mrgreen: What else he would have said? The problem is no one questions, why US is not buying the rejuvenated and the very capable F16 with claimed generous sprinkle of 5th Gen technologies at h...
by nrshah
17 Nov 2010 17:56
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: MRCA Discussion - October 2, 2010
Replies: 3205
Views: 886672

Re: MRCA Discussion - October 2, 2010

Phillip, In case what you say are true (Cost of JF 17 is only 15 mn), then no MMRCA(Mig 35 and Gripen included) will help us match the number game if at all TSP starts playing....I personally dont believe they have economic capability to go beyond 200 in next decade... PRC is also acting smart and w...
by nrshah
16 Nov 2010 16:13
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: MRCA Discussion - October 2, 2010
Replies: 3205
Views: 886672

Re: MRCA Discussion - October 2, 2010

I posted earlier the fact that the JF-17 comes in at 1/3rd the cost of an F-16.This means that even if the IAF acquires an MMRCA of F-16 cost,the PAF can acquire 3 times the number for the cost of just one MMRCA! It is here where numbers matter.If we are to acquire an MMRCA costing $75-90m then the...
by nrshah
13 Nov 2010 19:25
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread
Replies: 4001
Views: 1024988

Re: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread

Austin, Thanks for the information.... We have been taking of use of L band radar in pak fa to detect VLO targets (read F22/35) on wing edges... Considering the location, the aperture will be very low. With limited TxRx module, will it be able to fulfill the purpose intended? Also, if you can guide ...
by nrshah
13 Nov 2010 13:51
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
Replies: 4208
Views: 1113011

Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector

Sorry for posting late...Was out of town and did not get the time and a proper connection Some of the pics of DRDO brochures from Raipur exihibition... (Sorry for poor resolution, wasnt carry my cam and was by chance in Raipur, hence had to take thru my mobile) As the pics were not visible, correct...
by nrshah
12 Nov 2010 18:34
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread
Replies: 4001
Views: 1024988

Re: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread

I am not ridiculing DAS. May be its IRSTs are excellent. However, as far as this video goes, it is nothing spectacular. Tracking a huge IR emmiter dual stage rocket (even from 1500kms away)....that is something that even the old OLS-27 may have done. Perhaps, Austin might be able to throw more ligh...
by nrshah
12 Nov 2010 10:02
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: MRCA Discussion - October 2, 2010
Replies: 3205
Views: 886672

Re: MRCA Discussion - October 2, 2010

Roy saaar...i am sorry if it came out TVC in F22 was a show off. I did not mean that. TVC in F22 may well have been a perfectly weighed option by USAF. It was meant to be Air superiority fighter designed to sunset Russian fighters ..and plus TVC had its own advantages in terms of maneuverability. H...
by nrshah
11 Nov 2010 23:06
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments
Replies: 3235
Views: 929679

Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

^^^A newbie question..

Will we need US permission to dust of the cushion by virtue of all the restrictive covenants?
by nrshah
11 Nov 2010 23:01
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: MRCA Discussion - October 2, 2010
Replies: 3205
Views: 886672

Re: MRCA Discussion - October 2, 2010

30 KMs?? Nope saaar. If PAKFA and F22 are what they are advertised to be then detection of each other will be in WVR range. It would be akin to putting two cowboys in a small rectangular room for a duel resulting in a MAD (Mutually assured destruction) situation . I think the fight between these tw...
by nrshah
11 Nov 2010 22:09
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: MRCA Discussion - October 2, 2010
Replies: 3205
Views: 886672

Re: MRCA Discussion - October 2, 2010

To continue where Gaur left, We continue to hear that the days of WVR are over (Specially after JSF was felt to be less agile and maneuverable) on one side, whereas on the other side, we claim with stealth technology, detection range will be reduced drastically... Now, I dont understand which of the...
by nrshah
11 Nov 2010 17:41
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
Replies: 4208
Views: 1113011

Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector

Sorry for posting late...Was out of town and did not get the time and a proper connection Some of the pics of DRDO brochures from Raipur exihibition... (Sorry for poor resolution, wasnt carry my cam and was by chance in Raipur, hence had to take thru my mobile) http://img573.imageshack.us/i/89516683...
by nrshah
05 Nov 2010 21:23
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: International Aerospace Discussion
Replies: 4918
Views: 1167234

Re: International Aerospace Discussion

http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/11/hunt-for-6th-generation-fighter-begins.html From the above link, The CRFI [doc] puts down that the primary mission in the future Next Gen TACAIR definition is Offensive and Defensive Counterair to include subset missions including Integrated Air and Missile Defe...
by nrshah
05 Nov 2010 15:21
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation
Replies: 4004
Views: 1184055

Re: Indian Military Aviation

http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/11/indian-stealth-ucav-design-phase.html From the above, ........As you might expect, the AURA team has been consuming as much information as it possible can about existing stealth UCAVs in development globally now, including the European Neuron, the British Tarani...
by nrshah
04 Nov 2010 13:52
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments
Replies: 3235
Views: 929679

Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

India Likely to Ease Offset Norms to Include Aviation, Internal Security The Indian Express From the link Indian Ambassador to the US Meera Shankar on Wednesday said while it might be a bit early to raise the FDI cap on the defence sector, the government is more likely to bring about changes in the...
by nrshah
04 Nov 2010 09:19
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!
Replies: 206
Views: 56146

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Great news... Finally a word of congrats to GTRE and thanks to all those associated for making this nation stronger....

Adds a new option to BR JINGO VIMAN
by nrshah
01 Nov 2010 17:58
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
Replies: 4208
Views: 1113011

Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector

Sorry for being late... Got some pics of DRDO brochures during DRDO exihibition at Raipur... Can some one guide how to upload same?
by nrshah
01 Nov 2010 16:16
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
Replies: 3950
Views: 1294754

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

Any news (Paanwala/ Chaiwala/ Vodkawala) how much extra money is being asked by the Russians for the latest delays for the Chakra. How much do you think a SSBN of its caliber cost if at all you find a supplier? Please dont bash Russians for and with everything we got... the cost escalation was in o...
by nrshah
26 Oct 2010 19:43
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA News and Discussions
Replies: 3890
Views: 1340418

Re: LCA News and Discussions

After the Tejas experience and MMRCA saga what the IAF most certainly done is delinked its 5th Gen program/requirement from AMCA and co-opted for FGFA on a risk/fund sharing basis , so they are certain that they will get a 5th gen fighter within a certain time frame. They may continue with AMCA fun...
by nrshah
25 Oct 2010 19:58
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation
Replies: 4004
Views: 1184055

Re: Indian Military Aviation

What can Indian industry give the Air Force in 5 years with technology that we have right now which is completely sanction proof? Perhaps nothing...But should that be a hurdle to develop what we can... Our weakness in engines should also stop our R & D in say composites or avionics or stealth a...
by nrshah
25 Oct 2010 18:17
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA News and Discussions
Replies: 3890
Views: 1340418

Re: LCA News and Discussions

Kanson,

I think the point Austin is trying to put is that inspite of being single engined fighter, uptime was only 70%...
by nrshah
25 Oct 2010 17:54
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation
Replies: 4004
Views: 1184055

Re: Indian Military Aviation

P Chitkara, I assume you are talking of radars, engines and like...But why do we want to make our development of 5th gen planes hostage to all this? This is was the problem we have/had with LCA... Had we delinked Radar and Engines program with LCA in 2005, it would have been flying in combat role to...
by nrshah
25 Oct 2010 17:51
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation
Replies: 4004
Views: 1184055

Re: Indian Military Aviation

^^^ I even argue what technology will it fill that LCA Mk2 cannot?
by nrshah
25 Oct 2010 17:20
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation
Replies: 4004
Views: 1184055

Re: Indian Military Aviation

NRS, Just one quible, PAK FA shoiuld be single seat and not single engine. Thanks for pointing out.. I actually meant single seat...Typo error... will correct the same Now consider, AMCA is also delayed.. .it is not available till say 2030(fair enough?). .. Still we have a competent force of over 6...
by nrshah
25 Oct 2010 15:04
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation
Replies: 4004
Views: 1184055

Re: Indian Military Aviation

Austin, I will put the following perspective with reference to your evolution/revolution theory... While have to agree to you on we should be evolving LCA into formidable EF/Rafale kind of plane, we also need to consider other side... We are already having a look on them and we might get something o...
by nrshah
24 Oct 2010 20:51
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation
Replies: 4004
Views: 1184055

Re: Indian Military Aviation

I seem to recall reading about a comment by the current ACM that deliver a first rate 4th gen jet. Before you get on the task of 5th gen. I think the statement ( quoted in Live fist ) is not interpreted correctly...The statement in the report was "Give the air force a bloody first-rate fourth ...
by nrshah
23 Oct 2010 16:21
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: MRCA Discussion - October 2, 2010
Replies: 3205
Views: 886672

Re: MRCA Discussion - October 2, 2010

No F-35 for India

That brings end to all the discussion about cancelling MMRCA and go for F 35...
by nrshah
23 Oct 2010 12:15
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA News and Discussions
Replies: 3890
Views: 1340418

Re: LCA News and Discussions

I feel the problem with professor's article is wrong time... majority of his points might have been relevant in mid 70 to late 80's. Had we done some work on variants of say HF 24, Ajeet or Mig 21, we would have been in better position to start LCA by early nineties (Anyways, it practically started ...
by nrshah
22 Oct 2010 19:44
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation
Replies: 4004
Views: 1184055

Re: Indian Military Aviation

India to induct Northrop Grumman developed MQ-8 Fire Scout

What happened to our JV with Israel for NRUAV?
by nrshah
22 Oct 2010 16:40
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
Replies: 4208
Views: 1113011

Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector

^^^ coming from the police ground here in raipur...the rain spoiled the day here after which the exhibition was closed for the day, however still got a chance to get in As predicted it was more of "know your army" short of thing with Infantry weapons (assault rifles /LMH /HMG / Mortars), t...
by nrshah
21 Oct 2010 18:26
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
Replies: 4208
Views: 1113011

Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector

Any of BR members in Raipur can attend this. DRDO to display its technologies at Police Grounds, Raipur, 22-23 October Every dog has his day... Seems like it is my chance... I am in Raipur for some days and will visit the same... Don't know whether there will be any DRDO representative or not, but ...
by nrshah
21 Oct 2010 14:12
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Su-30: News and Discussion
Replies: 3952
Views: 1210153

Re: Su-30: News and Discussion

Indian Air Force Stations Su-30 Fighters at Gwalior Air Base This hints of nuke role taken by MKIs in addition to Mirages...Gwalior has always been in center of Indian nuke delivery mechanism with Mirages and Agni squadrons and regiments based there... Now with addition of MKI, looks load will be s...
by nrshah
20 Oct 2010 15:57
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: MRCA Discussion - October 2, 2010
Replies: 3205
Views: 886672

Re: MRCA Discussion - October 2, 2010

^^^ I agree... Just read your original post again... Sorry mate..
by nrshah
20 Oct 2010 15:42
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: MRCA Discussion - October 2, 2010
Replies: 3205
Views: 886672

Re: MRCA Discussion - October 2, 2010

Viv S wrote:
At close ranges, HMS and all-aspect high off-boresight LOAL missiles ensure that superior maneuverability does not necessarily guarantee a kill either.
Guarantee? Does F 22 guarantee a kill everytime? So it should be thrown away?
by nrshah
20 Oct 2010 15:40
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: MRCA Discussion - October 2, 2010
Replies: 3205
Views: 886672

Re: MRCA Discussion - October 2, 2010

'Out-manuever' is meaningless with modern missiles. As long as you are in range, you can be targeted no matter which direction you're coming from. And whatever the state of your EW suite, the ability to shoot first is always going to be a decisive advantage Again, Why aerodyamics? Why they looked a...