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by Kanson
15 Sep 2017 19:00
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 5116
Views: 1901832

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions - May 2017

Don't aware of those things. Israelis rejected SM6 joint development offer in favour of Barak-8. They Know much about SM6.
by Kanson
15 Sep 2017 18:17
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 5116
Views: 1901832

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions - May 2017

You are unnecessarily creating a false proposition! DRDO only said it is developing 300 km SAM as well as 300 km AAM. When officials like Chander spoke the range was mentioned as 250 km for SAM. 150 km doesn't arise on the horizon. If you see in S400, bulk of their activity is carried out by 250 km...
by Kanson
11 Sep 2017 23:44
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Artillery: News & Discussion
Replies: 4811
Views: 1344408

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread

^ Don't have numbers on dispersion, but Danush is established as more consistent. Consistency is proved beyond doubt. Fired over 4000 rounds in trials, another first, and a record in terms of trials held so far. Regarding PGK, IA is listening/talking to various players including european, non-americ...
by Kanson
11 Sep 2017 23:08
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 5116
Views: 1901832

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions - May 2017

Apologies if posted earlier. Can we do it on our own when we needed Israeli help for MRSAM/LRSAM? Initial report was SAM System with range of 150km and later DRDO people said it is 250km SAM System . but Now Jha says it will be S-400 Class which means 400+ km ??? You are unnecessarily creating a fa...
by Kanson
24 Aug 2017 23:25
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Artillery: News & Discussion
Replies: 4811
Views: 1344408

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread

Those nos are for total towed artillery, i think. Not merely for ATAGS.

These nos reflect approved/sanctioned figures but actual requirement may go up a few times more, that's why Tata SED is in rejoicing mood.
Same goes for anti tank missile.
by Kanson
08 Aug 2017 21:37
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Artillery: News & Discussion
Replies: 4811
Views: 1344408

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread

Link Dated 2014 Chander said one of the biggest challenges before DRDO now was to make guided artillery shells . At present, the artillery has conventional shells. These needed repeated bombarding to ensure the target was hit. Guided shells are like smart bombs that can be pinpointed at the target....
by Kanson
03 Aug 2017 16:11
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
Replies: 10352
Views: 2271653

Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Brahma Chellaney @Chellaney · 2h China needs India's help to save face but India must ensure China comes out a loser from its Doklam aggression so as to stop more incursions https://mobile.twitter.com/Chellaney/status/892993245264789505 Brahma Chellaney sir, It mighty be hard for anyone to even app...
by Kanson
03 Aug 2017 15:50
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
Replies: 10352
Views: 2271653

Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

i do think that a limited war is coming,unless india reteats . Bring it on. We are waiting and have some scores to settle with. When a bully is keeping his silence even after hearing war drum from other side, it means he is weighing where to attach or what to attack. When a warrior of Arjuna's cali...
by Kanson
31 Jul 2017 12:46
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
Replies: 10352
Views: 2271653

Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Today morning me and my friend saw at least 20 Trucks and 5 - 6 Gypsy full of Paratroopers (non SF) ....
China can disrupt water bodies. Our action is not going to be only defensive.
River Brahmaputra (& area around Ladakh) is a concern. We must be planning to take actions as per the need.
by Kanson
26 Jul 2017 06:12
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
Replies: 10352
Views: 2271653

Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

During Parakram, all those beggars from IT-Vity type, media & others did what they did becoz, that NDA Gov allowed itself wider room for such lobbying. Present gov is not like that. But you can expect Congress to do that instead. Ofcourse you can count commies, didi and the likes. That why it is...
by Kanson
25 Jul 2017 11:51
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
Replies: 10352
Views: 2271653

Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

>>The main problem is a lack of allocation of funds for defence and also very very bad defence management.

that was due to *wilful* neglect of previous administration.
by Kanson
25 Jul 2017 11:45
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?
Replies: 1451
Views: 351111

Re: Latest Chinese boast: should we shiver or die laughing?

From Managing Chinese threat[https://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewtopic.php?p=2189944#p2189944] Ofcourse with needed disclaimers. Here are the reasons for China for doing what it is doing currently: Indian is managing a PoK attack & retake of strategic areas or total PoK, that could stop CPEC i...
by Kanson
25 Jul 2017 11:38
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
Replies: 10352
Views: 2271653

Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

http://www.firstpost.com/india/india-china-border-row-state-run-global-times-calls-for-war-second-lesson-for-forgetful-india-3852629.html?google_editors_picks=true China's state-run media yet again fired a fresh salvo at India on Monday. An editorial in the English language daily Global Timesurged ...
by Kanson
25 Jul 2017 11:33
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)
Replies: 10352
Views: 2271653

Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Here are the reasons for China for doing what it is doing currently: Indian is managing a PoK attack & retake of strategic areas or total PoK, that could stop CPEC in its tracks, checkmate Chinese influence around IR and also could stop OBOR totally. All these heightened low warfare which is ter...
by Kanson
17 Jul 2017 22:07
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 5116
Views: 1901832

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions-May 2017

The flare out is because the missile is not moving fast enough when it is just being launched. AADs thrust vectoring mechanism is different. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5DyiqBYdxtc/VSKikmKcf4I/AAAAAAAAFtc/EFhumLlNDbU/s1600/AAD.jpg I think there are 4 movable exhaust nozzles on the QRSAM. Of course, w...
by Kanson
17 Jul 2017 21:50
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 5116
Views: 1901832

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions-May 2017

Surprise. Surprise. Surprise. Rudra M-II has been reported as an ASM till now everywhere. It is actually a SAM. Assistance is required for assembly and testing of Rudra M-II SAM units for PF warhead and PCB warhead. Total quantity of SAM units is 100 Nos. (50 each for PF and PCB Warhead) As the qua...
by Kanson
15 Jul 2017 23:19
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 5116
Views: 1901832

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions-May 2017

As i said,
QRSAM = AAD + ASTRA
by Kanson
15 Jul 2017 23:12
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 5116
Views: 1901832

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions-May 2017

negi wrote:I also saw that with QRSAM the only similar in fact a bit more flared out motor I saw was in 1st gen Nag missile.
Have you not noticed the ballooning exhaust plume of AAD missile, the way you described QRSAM exhaust?
Check this:
Image
by Kanson
15 Jul 2017 23:06
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 5116
Views: 1901832

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions-May 2017

Although the shape of QRSAM has remained as that shown in DRDO tender, I am completely taken aback by the propulsion system. Obviously, it is a dual-thrust propulsion system. The lower part of the missile (like in Trishul) seems to be made of maraging steel, while the upper part is composite. But, ...
by Kanson
11 Jul 2017 02:50
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 5116
Views: 1901832

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions-May 2017

arun wrote:Hi Res Picture (390kb) of the QR SAM launch from PIB:

Clicky
QRSAM = AAD + Astra (of course, that of Trishul).

So it is indeed tri shul.

Has moustache/canard , TVC (not yet confirmed) of AAD.
Midbody wings & core tech of Astra. I think.
by Kanson
11 Jul 2017 02:27
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 5116
Views: 1901832

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions-May 2017

Curiosity question - why is it that Nirbhay is seeing so many technical challenges inspite of being subsonic 1000 KM range missile while the more complex hypersonic, 2000 KM range Shaurya is already is production? Nirbhay proj is headed by ADE lab. Relatively inexperienced. Ex Sudharshan proj belon...
by Kanson
11 Jun 2017 23:35
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 5116
Views: 1901832

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions-May 2017

Ra nana, knkurs is a wire guided missile, so as long as the shooter is able to discriminate the target from surrounding environment it should hit the target. Though no clue if the firing post is capable of such discrimination. So the decision was to get retro version of ATGM ATGM retro version is t...
by Kanson
11 Jun 2017 23:21
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 5116
Views: 1901832

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions-May 2017

Spike missile (family) comes in variants that allows both vehicle & man portable. Same goes with Javelin.
They do not, by their mere presence means man-portable.
by Kanson
05 Jun 2017 22:57
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Space Program: News & Discussion - Sept 2016
Replies: 4447
Views: 1540877

Re: Indian Space Programme Discussion - Sept 2016

The discussion in ISP and lugging dead weight keeps coming up regularly in this thread. I'd just like to say, if ordinary jingoes like us know about the advantages/disadvantages of them,it's beyond doubt that the people@ ISRO who design and build and launch these rockets are aware of them. As per I...
by Kanson
05 Jun 2017 20:36
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 5116
Views: 1901832

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions-May 2017

Amogha & its variants are locally developed equivalents of Milan-3 & Milan-ER.
by Kanson
05 Jun 2017 20:34
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 5116
Views: 1901832

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions-May 2017

Is there any guess how long will it take this missile to finish testing and be inducted ? To be honest, it's the first time I noticed any Indian QRSAM. Did armed forces really ask for it or is it an "independent" project from DRDO fated to be another Nag ? It is indeed a specific req from...
by Kanson
05 Jun 2017 20:15
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: GSLV-Mk III launch program/post-launch analysis
Replies: 424
Views: 119020

Re: GSLV-Mk III launch program/post-launch analysis

Kakarat wrote:GSLV MkIII D1 in flight seen from Chennai


S200 Booster separation from GSLV MkIII D1 seen from Chennai
Good one sir ji. Nice effort!
by Kanson
05 Jun 2017 20:10
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 5116
Views: 1901832

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions-May 2017

It is infact desi Milan-3.
by Kanson
14 Mar 2017 04:24
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 4679
Views: 1314537

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

Ah! Want to believe that(MTCR part) and whatever is happening i believe it is good. Rather than having another missile named as A5prime down the line after 5 yrs....it is good.
by Kanson
14 Mar 2017 04:10
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 4679
Views: 1314537

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

Gyan Reg Pianaka: even say it attain high terminal velocity, every turn and bank consumes energy so reduces speed. So to maintain speed while doing such loops and manoeuvres it needs to be powered. Reg AAM: to fly like AAM the body needs to generate lift. Take Astra, check the size of wings, chech t...
by Kanson
14 Mar 2017 03:44
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 4679
Views: 1314537

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

Sir, general observation in such scenario is either the missile is faulty if not then there is most likely modifications for which more trials could be needed. My views! So for the Agni-5, is it the modifications that are causing the extra trials ? If it were faulty, something would come out. Hope ...
by Kanson
12 Mar 2017 18:54
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 4679
Views: 1314537

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

Kanson, If Brahmos continues to have powered flight even at terminal stage then its range may be (only) 600km but if the fuel is expended at high altitude (say 20km ceiling) and the missile glides down rest of the way, will the range not increase further to say 800-1200km? If only the missile is de...
by Kanson
12 Mar 2017 15:24
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 4679
Views: 1314537

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

When we started developing Brahmos from Onyx, Onyx only had hi-lo & lo-lo version and that too only against Ships. Onyx added land attack variant latter, latter than Brahmos land variant. To compare, it is similar to Brahmos Block I land attack variant. We developed Brahmos further to vertical s...
by Kanson
12 Mar 2017 15:12
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 4679
Views: 1314537

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

^ Cybaru, tested was land attack variant.

Austin, thanks for the input. Just want to clarify, do Onyx perform Steep vertical dive (70 to 90 deg)as that of Brahmos block III land attack variant?
by Kanson
12 Mar 2017 11:01
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 4679
Views: 1314537

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

Shall i give out a small secret: even that is solved.
by Kanson
12 Mar 2017 08:26
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 4679
Views: 1314537

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

Wow! Cat is out of the bag.
Now all those suspecting Nag's & its design team performance should take a dip in Ganges.
As i said, Nag when ready will be the best missile in its category.
by Kanson
12 Mar 2017 08:15
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 4679
Views: 1314537

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

From February 2017 interview of Dr. S. Christopher What is the update on Nag anti-tank missile? Nag will only have the infrared guid- ance system. There won’t be any mil- limetric wave because the diameter of the missile is small. If we go for an X-band or a Ku-band system, the size has to be reason...
by Kanson
12 Mar 2017 08:08
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 4679
Views: 1314537

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

I really liked the concept of LRCM. I dont know any other such missile. Does anyone else has the same concept CM with subsonic cruise and supersonic terminal phase...?? It is exactly similar to AShm version of Kalibr missile whose range is 1000+ km and whose export ver is known as klub missile with...
by Kanson
12 Mar 2017 07:47
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 4679
Views: 1314537

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

If they are 'user trials' or 'pre-induction trials', then one can understand that so long as they are not DRDO's trials. Normally, the missile is declared 'operational' after three DRDO trials. The user trials begin after that and are inducted into service later. I agree with you on the missiles be...
by Kanson
12 Mar 2017 07:32
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14
Replies: 4679
Views: 1314537

Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

Does it mean that we can increase the range of Brahmos missiles in our inventory with a software change? Yes, by default all missiles in our inventory have that extended range. Restriction in range arise due to software lock. As i mentioned few pages back, @hi-lo mode range is 400+ km, @ hi-hi mode...