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- 18 Mar 2010 22:31
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
- Replies: 4208
- Views: 1110490
Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
Rayc, I read again to understand. You said nothing wrong. You cannot visualize. You are bang on target with that. So, what does Indian Army do? Wring its hands and give up? If you look at other relevant armies, they have scrambled up and brought out newer and newer weapons. US never visualised 9/11....
- 18 Mar 2010 22:03
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
- Replies: 4208
- Views: 1110490
Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
RayC,
Could you rephrase that. I have no idea what it means. I mean no disrespect. I "really', "actually' do not understand what is meant to be. why have you written that? What is the background?
Added Later....
Sir, allow me my Blonde moments...
Could you rephrase that. I have no idea what it means. I mean no disrespect. I "really', "actually' do not understand what is meant to be. why have you written that? What is the background?
Added Later....
Sir, allow me my Blonde moments...
- 18 Mar 2010 21:41
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
- Replies: 4208
- Views: 1110490
Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
ASPuar, CJ is the normal initials I use in my mails. Infact, its CJ or Chacko with most I know. You are welcome to call me that. Fundamentally, I have never denied DRDO's shortcomings. The bad blood between Army and DRDO is well known. I hve no issues with it. The issues with Army are also known and...
- 18 Mar 2010 21:01
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
- Replies: 4208
- Views: 1110490
Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
Chacko, Im afraid that your "real examples" with X's and Y's are all baloney as far as Im concerned. Are you unaware of an equivalence policy at DRDO? If so, Im afraid the rest of your post becomes irrelevant. Apusar, I considered your post as such. But, I refrained. But, the respect for ...
- 18 Mar 2010 20:57
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
- Replies: 4208
- Views: 1110490
Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
The change of GSQR repeatedly (sic!) has been mentioned many a time. Maybe you missed them in your excitement. I had replied this earlier but that too must have been missed! We have alleged that army changes GSQR to scuttle. If someone challenges the need to change GSQR, its not agreeable. I have b...
- 18 Mar 2010 19:03
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
- Replies: 4208
- Views: 1110490
Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
Nobody said GSQR should not change.
- 18 Mar 2010 18:52
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Aviation
- Replies: 3926
- Views: 1253569
Re: Indian Military Aviation
Its revealing. Any one not getting into IIT is dumb. Indian Air Force conducts selection process at Sharda University Sharda University, one of North India’s leading private university, hosted the annual selection of the Indian Air Force for their Fast track Selection program (flying branch) at thei...
- 18 Mar 2010 17:45
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
- Replies: 4208
- Views: 1110490
Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
ASP sahab, why do you continue to push the strawman that DRDO et al asks the services to induct things they make rather than what the services ask for ? please name these systems that DRDO designed on its own without consulting the forces and is now trying to force on them ? secondly, the forces th...
- 18 Mar 2010 17:26
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
- Replies: 4208
- Views: 1110490
Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
Sir, fyi, http://www.drdo.org/mission.shtml Vision: Make India prosperous by establishing world class science and technology base and provide our Defence Services decisive edge by equipping them with internationally competitive systems and solutions. And one of the mission: Develop infrastructure a...
- 18 Mar 2010 17:16
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
- Replies: 4208
- Views: 1110490
Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
Oh Really, is it personal opinion? x, Y i quotes as its a live example that happened and I don't want to give the names and forces name. rest of the stuff you mention, I have already addressed it with rank limitations in DRDO. They have certain quota of ranks and limitations they can place them. The...
- 18 Mar 2010 14:46
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
- Replies: 4208
- Views: 1110490
Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
It seems that to certain segments on BR, DRDO can do no wrong. So there is no point trying to explain anything to them. I understand that you feel that they are supermen, while the services are idiots. Just remember, the DRDO WAS created, to provide the services with the equipment they want and nee...
- 18 Mar 2010 07:06
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
- Replies: 4208
- Views: 1110490
Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
They are trying. The off sets, the technology transfers etc. It will take atleast 50 to 10 year period if the majority of PVT sector firms have to be primed for supply to forces.Craig Alpert wrote:Pvt Sector Has Big Role in Defence Equipment: Antony
ALL TALK AND NO ACTION on his part!!!
- 18 Mar 2010 06:59
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
- Replies: 4208
- Views: 1110490
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
I did not see this before or I would have replied. I have not followed your point. Can you please rephrase it?Craig Alpert wrote:Now you know why the Paki's are getting the Cobra!!! AND no reason for the IA to make noice about US arming Pak against India under the pretext of fighting the TALIBAAN!
- 17 Mar 2010 23:02
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
- Replies: 4208
- Views: 1110490
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
sir, Hired , fired? They will leave the company for an extra Rs 500/-. The DRDO scientists I know are very competent and they are very much in demand by the Pvt sector. Scientists are like that. We need an agency to liaise between the user and scientists. I don't expect scientists to be commercial ...
- 17 Mar 2010 22:45
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
- Replies: 4208
- Views: 1110490
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Chackojoseph, why cant we have a flexible model? Let every project evolve on its own. Let steering team be comprised of different stakeholders. That is the hallmark of all successful projects. We already have a flexible model. DRDO is already developing stuff with Israel, pvt co's PSU's, Univs etc....
- 17 Mar 2010 22:38
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
- Replies: 4208
- Views: 1110490
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
chackojoseph ji, Ditto for me saar. Banks, telephones, insurance, preferred airline and whatnot. All government owned. But DRDO is a very different story. We cannot afford idiosyncrasies in research. They have to understand that they form the tail and not the teeth. Long years they have claimed tha...
- 17 Mar 2010 22:26
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
- Replies: 4208
- Views: 1110490
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
1) DRDO existed when no one would give us Arms and we had "almost" single supply source. 2) DRDO has re positioned time after time. They have been moving with time. Even today, they have gone for JV's, partnered with Univ and private companies. 3) DRDO has navigated through its Hr issues a...
- 17 Mar 2010 22:12
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
- Replies: 4208
- Views: 1110490
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
No. Let private India company rise again which is the consuming fear of the DRDO. It's the old story of the emperor and his new clothes. When employees can be hired, fired and "bonused" easily, that usually brings out the best in a human being. Ambition and fear of failure should ride on ...
- 17 Mar 2010 22:08
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
- Replies: 4208
- Views: 1110490
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Thanks. I did not take it personal. Your point was correct.tsarkar wrote:Chackojoseph, my earlier post was harsh, I have edited it accordingly.
- 17 Mar 2010 21:56
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
- Replies: 4208
- Views: 1110490
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Let new British India company rise again.chetak wrote:Let the DRDO withdraw into the background, take as much and more money that it says it requires, take decades but finally deliver a relevant state of the art system.
- 17 Mar 2010 21:35
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
- Replies: 4208
- Views: 1110490
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Chackojoseph, you are misreading RayC. And the statements made by you are 100% false. RayC is referring to Battle Field Surveillance Radar (BFSR) while you are referring to Weapons Locating Radar (WLR). I agree, I misread on BSFR. Indian Army acquiring 28 indigenous Weapon Locating Radars It may be...
- 17 Mar 2010 20:59
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
- Replies: 4208
- Views: 1110490
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
The Battlefield Surveillance Radar was initially rejected. And it remained so till a very good one was produced. It was immediately accepted and is in service. I guess this is a partial truth. Army plumped for cobra from US or something like that. It failed to perform. Then it had no other option b...
- 17 Mar 2010 10:39
- Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
- Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
- Replies: 3520
- Views: 817276
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
In 996, when it performed, Army said that Arjuns cannot be made fast enough.
Then few years back, after AUCRT, Army said, its an old technology and FMB needed.
This time...... Lets wait.
Then few years back, after AUCRT, Army said, its an old technology and FMB needed.
This time...... Lets wait.
- 12 Mar 2010 14:18
- Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
- Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
- Replies: 3520
- Views: 817276
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
I must say that it is a quote of the lifetime. Bravo!nachiket wrote:The problem sir is that the T-90 which is basically a souped up T-72 is as much a piece of 1970s machinery as the Arjun. In fact it is more so. A T-90 facing a Chinese Type 99 is exactly like a Sherman facing an M-47 Patton.
- 12 Mar 2010 10:29
- Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
- Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
- Replies: 3520
- Views: 817276
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
^^^^^ you are right. Even samyukta was accepted by Army. Ironies remain. for example, Army accepts that the Tanks is good and a base for FMBT. I am not sure if lot many people know this. While inducting T-72, Arjun Tank was pushed into similar situation those days. The history is repeating itself if...
- 11 Mar 2010 21:56
- Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
- Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
- Replies: 3520
- Views: 817276
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
If you look carefully on the parliamentary defence committee's, they are very concerned about this project. Also 3 very competent politicians are behind this project. I won't be disappointed in either way. My perspective is that, a debate has been stimulated on the Arjun project. Once upon a time, i...
- 11 Mar 2010 18:35
- Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
- Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
- Replies: 3520
- Views: 817276
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
chocolate will be fantastic. There is a lot of good news that is going to flow. I am working on confirmations. After that more chocolates can flow. :D So what's the credibility of the news in Arroor's blog. Has the army really capped the Arjun at 124? [/quote] let everybody say what they want. Just...
- 10 Mar 2010 20:24
- Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
- Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
- Replies: 3520
- Views: 817276
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
You can home make AK-47 and mot M-16. hence AK-47 proliferates.
- 10 Mar 2010 17:24
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Corruption in Arms Deals - News and Analysis
- Replies: 768
- Views: 122948
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
^^^ I have reported things as I know them. Thank you for telling me that Army never purchases anything. Army Supply Corps are relevant outfits are doing nothing. Also, please google for Indian Army golf cart purchases, egg purchases, wheat purchases etc. You still have many relevant points to make. ...
- 10 Mar 2010 12:55
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Corruption in Arms Deals - News and Analysis
- Replies: 768
- Views: 122948
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
500 kgs - half a ton(!) sir. Absolutely no vehicle of any reasonable kind could survive that amount of explosive. And yet, out of a crew of four, we have 2 survivors, of which one was not wounded seriously enough to warrant a mention! That is some measure of the levels of protection that the M1(pos...
- 10 Mar 2010 12:44
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Corruption in Arms Deals - News and Analysis
- Replies: 768
- Views: 122948
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Everybody leans towards money, even army men. Hence, on Arjun Tank project, everyone is apprehensive about every possibility. Hence the project is in news.
- 10 Mar 2010 11:00
- Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
- Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
- Replies: 3520
- Views: 817276
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Lastly, an ex COAS, an Armoured Corps officer, who I met at an Army gathering, was asked a ponted question by me since this debate was on. What is his opinion about T 90 vs Arjun. He said that T 90 is a good tank and Arjun was a Mark I. Whatever that means! I think, you should have really asked him...
- 10 Mar 2010 06:48
- Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
- Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
- Replies: 3520
- Views: 817276
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
is this very unheard of ? and undesirable ? armed forces of all important nations routinely fund projects and in many cases even pure academic projects that have no direct bearing on deployable systems. in our own country we have had the IAF allocate certain amount of funds for the LCH project, eve...
- 09 Mar 2010 21:45
- Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
- Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
- Replies: 3520
- Views: 817276
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Well DRDO has learned its side - Read the Saraswat interview http://tinyurl.com/y8wh8wy Q. There has been criticism of the DRDO-military relationship. A. Look, as I said, DRDO’s technology development plan is now dovetailed to the military’s LTIPP. Two, there is now increasing coordination between ...
- 09 Mar 2010 21:05
- Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
- Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
- Replies: 3520
- Views: 817276
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
That is the whole problem ... Army should have involved in design as well as development. Production is over kill, know how of non-critical stuff and final assembly should be give to private sector. 2 very prominent Army personnel, the VCOA's etc were very much involved. It is wrong to say that Arm...
- 09 Mar 2010 17:29
- Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
- Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
- Replies: 3520
- Views: 817276
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
^^^^^ Arjun Tank is a Army product. There is no question "we are making, you take it."
- 09 Mar 2010 16:43
- Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
- Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
- Replies: 3520
- Views: 817276
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
The trouble is, that the DRDO is not taking the army into confidence at any turn, and I think that that is the army's main beef with them. Theyre taking the attitude of "We're making this, and you have to use it". Like so many things in India's arcane governmental mentalities, I think at ...
- 08 Mar 2010 18:07
- Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
- Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
- Replies: 3520
- Views: 817276
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Buying issues crop up in Imports. Its then the Babu machinery kicks in. In Arjuns case, the resistance is not from babus.
- 08 Mar 2010 12:47
- Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
- Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
- Replies: 3520
- Views: 817276
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
I'm not questioning the authenticity of the information. I want to learn/read more about it. If you can help with any additional information, it would be great. Added later: Sir, just saw your message. I uderstand the concern. I have just backed up the fact. I understand that you have not questione...
- 08 Mar 2010 11:41
- Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
- Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
- Replies: 3520
- Views: 817276
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
^^^^^^ rayC has given the correct information on the BMS.