Bharat Rakshak

nirav

doval saars smirk is priceless

meanwhile the eleven led chicoms, sab ke muh pe baara baje hain

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Unlike Indian dhimmis, you can't put out your message easily to Chinese dhimmis and even if you could, those dhimmis can't do live randi rona on their national TVs like our dhimmis do 24x7. we forget, even way back there was that brave/foolish chinese guy who stood infront of tanks @ Tienanmen squa...

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JE Menon wrote:Guys, does Pakistan not have an English-language TV news and discussion channel? I've not been able to find a single one, and missing out on all the fun...

a big loss for you nazreen ..

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@managing the Chinese threat. We are severely lacking in the propagandu aspect. The Khan's are past masters of it and are very good at formenting trouble in hostile countries. We meanwhile have enough haramis in our own media who are excellent at such propagandu. We need to launch a large effort to ...

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What actual use will the Alliance be in case of a India China war? I do not see American and Japanese troops fighting the Chinese along with Indian troops on our borders. Nor do I see their navies attacking the PLAN on the high seas. Me too. That's not what I said either. Even the Modi government s...

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What actual use will the Alliance be in case of a India China war? I do not see American and Japanese troops fighting the Chinese along with Indian troops on our borders. Nor do I see their navies attacking the PLAN on the high seas. It's useful for posturing, but moment actual full scale war starts...

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There is no space. I actually wonder how they managed to squeeze the plumbing there. Also, the darn thing looks huuge for the size of the aircraft. It may not fit even in the empty shell it would seem. If anything, this should have been a good reason for ADA to accelerate work on Mark 2. Looks like...

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NRao wrote:Unless I missed it, what about the weight of the old radar?

The article Kartik posted seems to only trade the ballast for a radar + EW systems.

I believe it's from the time when the MMR wasn't ready and it was flying with ballast instead.

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Kartik Saar, The 1000Kg reduction was not a rumour when Mk1A was announced.. I remember making a post then that it could be a journo error in which they might have said 1000 pounds and not kgs, which seems plausible btw. If indeed that's not going to happen, then what's the difference between mk1 an...

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Simulating? Or Controversial? As long as it remains objective., it will be a worthwhile effort. I hope posters will simply ignore others' confrontational tone because overall a lot of useful and enlightening knowledge is being presented :) I just read about the Chinese launch failure . As I underst...

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Hence a souped up 1000 KG weight reduced MK!a with AESA and SPJ was proposed. since then, theyve sat in water wrt the 1000 KGs weight reduction. There is *no clarity* on how much weight reduction they will indeed go after and achieve. A 1000 Kg weight reduction involves significant change in stiffn...

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I disagree.
MP is solely responsible for keeping the LCA alive with the mk1a compromise.
Had that not been done, we would have ended up seeing the whole decades worth 'effort' into a technology demonstration project.

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The idea was no doubt developed during MP's term and is merely being followed by the current RM - http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/beyond-tejas-another-single-engine-fighter-to-be-made-in-india-says-parrikar/story-Srhjb1bGBxrrRFFOzroFeN.html Srin, Brar, MP's vision was to fund Mk1A, Mk2, Mk...

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Rakesh wrote:nirav: did you even bother reading the posts above?

I did Rakesh Saar. Went through the article too.

The single engined fighter competition evokes way too many reactions in all directions !

It's exasperating !

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If the F16 BLK 70 is "third" gen, what gen is our 'indigenous' effort ?

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Did MoD give the funds to HAL to setup the line? Quoting from the report. 4.3.1 Delay in creation of production facilities: Audit observed that HAL had been utilizing the existing facilities available with it for manufacture of LCA. Even though HAL initiated action in April 2006 to form a dedicated...

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Can't HAL keep on producing the MK1 planes on its own, I am sure it can bear with the carry cost, with nothing in sight IAF wont mind a plane. I am sure payments can be sorted out over time. For IAF an inferior plane should be preferable to no plane From a risk-mitigation point of view, the assembl...

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I mean as kids we do launch our own rockets but that is never a question in any of the physics paper I attempted. In fact, in std 7 itself the dynamics of rocket propulsion (bhu chakkar & rockets for eg) could be introduced with kids asked to only observe, contemplate and then apply what they h...

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Indranil wrote:1 year

Could you post a link please? A start to finish of 12 months on the production line is rocket speed !

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How long does the LCA take on the production line ?
iirc, 36 months was the figure for raffle and Solah too..

If that's the benchmark, Jan 18 - 36 months is Jan 21 ! For the first FOC mk1. This is assuming foc SoP is ready immediately post getting foc in Dec 17.

This doesn't look good.

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The"discussion" I'm afraid is going in circles.it doesn't make sense to me anymore.

It's one thing to back our own programs but not by being oblivious to what capacity it affords.

Edited as per request.

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^Exactly we should immediately place an order of 450 Tejas Fighters and 90 Tejas trainers. So 3 lines can be invested in which can churn out jets for next 15 years. Then these 3 lines can start mfrg AMCAs. Sir, In your world delivery in a time bound manner is not important. In the real world, it ve...

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The bakis reportedly used the Bandar to down an Iranian UAV. We meanwhile used a MKI , 93 gasha rounds to down a Paki balloon over Jaipur earlier this year. It was the job of a point defense fighter, not our air dominance fighter. For kind folks talking about understanding orbat, this is a glaring h...

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What guarantee that Imported fighter production wont face any production glitches/delays since the production line is going to be setup only after signing of agreement & confirmed orders and production lines cannot be setup over night If the US is going to stop supply of F404/F414 and pressures...

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Sharma ji, Have you taken into account slippages in the testing of the LCA and possible production glitches/delays ? If going by what you say the single engined fighter is cancelled and orders given to LCA for 223 jets, who should be held accountable for further delays slippages ? I'm sure you are a...

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. Rohit Saar, Quite some time has passed since you started the thread on IAF re organisation/re equipment. I think that thread should be made into a sticky for posters to reference it and get a better understanding of IAFs squadron situation. The prime opposition for the 'single engined fighter' re...

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Noob pooch to knowledgeable saars. Can we retake Mansarovar militarily and defend it ? The Chinese are displaying their A1 harami within. No amount of border talks will yield in a peaceful handover of Mansarovar.im not even sure if previous govts even mentioned it in talks. Today's toilet has it on ...

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^ About that IAF afsar remark - I believe the former ACM Raha himself has said the same in so many words - deliver on time and quality, and we will be happy to buy more! I recall him saying - we will take as many as they(HAL) give.. The ball has been firmly in ADA/HAL court from quite a while. This...

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My bad, I should have posted the link to be clearer.. http://armynews.in/indian-defence-news/hal-plans-to-convert-20-foc-lca-tejas-mk1a/ This is where I picked it up from. Spent the last hour trying to find the same quote from a news organisation, couldn't find it though. It is big news and if TSR S...

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The Frenchie's did boast of a Kaveri powered flight at next aero India, 2019. Let's see how they deliver on it. There has been no noise on the engine front for Mk1A. 99 f414s were needed for the mk2. A similar contract needs to be signed for 404IN S6. If HAL can pull a rabbit out of their Musharraf...

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There was tremendous dhoti shivering before the meet. Bharat Karnad was talking about Trump using hand sanitizers often and wondering how abmodi hug would be dealt with by him. Even trump administration sees India in a way more positive light than our desi think thanks and some diggajs. There was st...

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The Frenchie's did boast of a Kaveri powered flight at next aero India, 2019. Let's see how they deliver on it. There has been no noise on the engine front for Mk1A. 99 f414s were needed for the mk2. A similar contract needs to be signed for 404IN S6. If HAL can pull a rabbit out of their Musharraf'...

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Lungi dance moment if the above comes through. FOC was slated for June. 4 days to go. Or 369 days to go. It was definitely slated for June but which year., sir - which year? This year ! Check tarmak reports.. The Mk1A is supposed to be ready in 2018. Read a report which quoted HAL chairman, that th...

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Have they mounted the gun on a Hummvee !?
Looks like it!

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I see the F16 proposal being criticized on this thread. The more we debate that, the more it becomes clear to me that almost all of that criticism is equally applicable to the LCA. They are not applicable from angle of nationalits, as they see making more LCA's will free us from: -going to foreigne...

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If our F16 line doesn't have export orders and hence he deems it unviable, going by Mk1A numbers, the chances of bagging an export order look nil to me. Please clarify if you intend this for the F-16 exports or MK1a? I take it you (finally?) agree the costs of MK1a are lower than comparative progra...

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It will likely be more but that is the case for practically all of its peer competitors as well. Unit fly-away cost is an important metric to track and plays the biggest role in determining affordability unless one is planning to acquire an extremely small number of units where significant differen...

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How can anyone answer that without first knowing what the parameters of the deal are, how many aircraft and what non-recurring products and services are on offer, or on order? Well, We aren't aware of the specifics of the 50,000 crs even for the IAF. So for a theoretical exercise, assuming the fore...

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Stating flyaway costs doesn't do anything except window dressing @ the cost bit."look platform is cheap price wise". It absolutely does since it reflects the recurring cost of buying the hardware. You will incur non recurring costs regardless of what you recapitalize your aircraft invento...

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