Bharat Rakshak

kgoan

Re: Sunil's thesis on the nuclear aspect of the Conflict Economy. Guess who joins in? Yes the Good General Beg of Pakistan. BTW, note that the Iran-Pak link, is virtually a creation of Beg and his role on Pakistan's response during Desert Storm a decade plus ago. So Beg was fileted out of his job by...

kgoan

>> It appears that Washington's problem is essentially one of getting over the predisposition that a country with nukes will automatically behave irresponsibly. LOL! Reminds me of that old saying about a thief who could never believe that others could be honest or the one about a liar not being able...

kgoan

>> US deliberately keeping oil prices high ? Quite possibly, although I doubt whether they have that degree of fine control. Rather their policies (not political ones, economic) seem to help do precisely that. IMO, this is probably becasue they need to re-capitalise the Saudi economy. Recall that ju...

kgoan

Ramana, I'm not sure a new thread would help. The above post was written in the context of GD's PM sending photos to the Chinese and paks on our nuke preparations. The good Shri Ram of the JNU would keel over with heart failure - or get the heck out of Delhi ASAP - if he ever heard of that. (But see...

kgoan

Dear, X: Thank you for the kind thoughts expressed in your recent note. I do appreciate them. Yes, my family's fine and I hope yours are as well. And let me congratulate you on your appointment to the PMO. I hope the work isn't to stressful. I must say, I'm rather intrigued at this academic exercise...

kgoan

Paul Wolf's site is quite well known. The section on Psychological warfare (OSS Morale bit especially) is legendary. BTW: Folks on a modem should not even *think* of downloading the site. The Central Asia section, which includes Pakistan and Afghanistan is 72 plus Mb by itself. The whole site, inclu...

kgoan

From Acharya's link, the Paks apparently named the Kargil intrusion as "Operation Bader".

I wonder if there's any significance to that name.

kgoan

No. I have a copy of Bose's original paper (in one of those "classics of physics compendium"), and the corrections made by Einstein to it. Einstein deserved to have his name on it. Little trivia: Bose also deduced the "spin" of particles. However Einstein, at the time, said it wa...

kgoan

When I first got on - I had a text based internet connection

Shiv, since you use Linux, you can still get a blast from the past and bring back all those halcyon memories of yesteryear.

Simply open up a terminal window and type "lynx" (without the quotation marks) in it.

kgoan

get rid of the damp squib forum.

Why are you prejudiced against damp squids?

Try them pan fried with masala and a nice beer. You'll soon change your mind.

kgoan

And a happy BR-ing to all.

kgoan

Ashutosh, I don't think Kuldip of wagah fame is the same as K P above?

kgoan

>> My apologies but I would have to decline your questions. That is a bit too much insight for the admins to allow, especially when I had acquire inside information. Come again? An officer of a foreign force gets inside info on Indian ops which can't be discussed on *this* forum among Indians ? And ...

kgoan

Any idea of what a Battle Group will actually consist of? The composition and size will impact on the speed and reaction rate of it's manueverability. A 100 plus guns seems to imply that the entire group, with all the other elements added, could well be division size, (Strike Divisions instead of St...

kgoan

>>either we are the most incompetent nation in the world (or) we are in control of everything. Which is it?

Both. Which is what scares the spit outta us.

kgoan

Abhijit, in the madness of the first few hours after a nuke goes off, they can do whatever they want. And what they want, as Brer Fox tells us, will be to blame India as having "started" it. They have no choice. Either they blame someone else or they admit that *everything* they did post 9...

kgoan

Folks, you seemed to have missed the point Brer Fox and friends are making:

Whether it's deliberate or not, what Brer Fox has just told us is that if a nuke goes of in the CONUS, the US isn't going to blame Pak Land. They're going to blame India.

Get used to it. And plan for that.

kgoan

Pitafi's article is interesting.

Clearly a warning shot. No, I'm not saying that Cheney or the CIA were involved, but the Paks are letting folk know that they do have cards to play. i.e. It sounds as if they're making an ambit claim.

Sunil, good points. But scary.

kgoan

Sunil, How do the Paks ensure that it is "Make peace with Pakistanis" and not "kill all Pakistanis"? The US could, without much effort, burn the place down to bedrock and, incidentally, bury any inconvenient stuff that may otherwise come up at a future date. So why wouldn't they?...

kgoan

Originally posted by shiv:
. . . but I have been suspecting for some time that the Pakistani oligarchy and parts of the USG have a lot more in common that one would like to believe.

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Google search terms for the interested:

BCCI, Peter Dale Scott, Ralph McGehee and CIABASE (CIABASE is one word).

kgoan

Farruh Saleem: Paks Terror economy What I found most interesting-and the most painful-was Pakistan's calculation regarding our Gross Terror-economy Product (GTP). Pakistan has been at war on many fronts, as a consequence "Pakistan's conflict with India, Iran and the Shia community within the c...

kgoan

That was Kim Myong Chol, the Dear Leaders eyes, ears, mouth and most importantly, *wallet*, in the Land of the Rising Sun.

kgoan

You know folks, reading these threads again, and Sunils last post, something struck me. And I think we need a change. Because if there's one thing this thing has done, it's to bring out as clearly as possible the NP folk as state instruments of the west/US. The esence of psy-war is to manage peoples...

kgoan

Posting in full, because it will be necessary when this thread is saved and the Dawn link is dead. http://www.dawn.com/2004/02/23/fea.htm#3 Story of the clandestine billions: The cost of our N-deterrence-II By M. Ziauddin During the 1980s, Pakistan received about $25 billion (a conservative estimate...

kgoan

There's an interview with of Najam Sethi here in SAT, http://www.satribune.com/archives/feb22_28_04/P1_sethi.htm I think he gives away more than he intended to, but at any rate this quote is worth noting: Q: Are the Americans safeguarding Pakistani nuclear installations to ensure that nuclear arms d...

kgoan

N, so we're in agreement . . . except for one crucial area where you've made a fundamental error. try this link, you'll see what I mean. Now that link actually introduces another interesting question: US constraints on India is a given (or any potential peer competitor for that matter). So is US use...

kgoan

N, No disagreement there. That was why I used the Sakharov analogy - with apologies to Sakharov. The only way Hoodbhoy can do what he does is if he's right up the top of the Pak world. His ability to waltz around the world also indicates a certain degree of "insider" privileges that may in...

kgoan

Calvin, R:

Hoodbhoy may be syndicated, in which case he may not have a say in where the article ends up.

But Calvins point is interesting given the Korean paper - would be virtually confirmed if it turns up in a Japanese paper.

kgoan

Calvin, I don't thin Hoodbhoy's part of the religious wing. I think he's part of the RAPE who see themselves as the true "inheritors" of Jinnah's legacy. They all follow the exclusivist ideology of Jinnah, but this lot are a bit more sophisticated in how they couch their intolerance. I hav...

kgoan

Sridhar, *IMO*, central. The Quaid-e-Azam University's Physics Dept is *the* place for Physics in Pak land. Pak scientists/engineers have to be trained somewhere. Sure, they go abroad, but there has to be a nodal point in pak land - and only QeA really qualifies. (Position, geography, ideology, reso...

kgoan

Shiv, now that's interesting. So Hoodbhoy's going around telling one and all that "you have nothing to worry about, us Pakees are harmless now"? How very Musharraf-like of him. Of course, he's a Pak RAPE - so it's hard to tell if that's his view, if he's a sock-puppet for the Pak Army, or ...

kgoan

N, good question. Hoodbhoy, (like Ayaz Amir, Sherry rehman, Najam Sethi etc. - but not Asma Jehangir), are all part and parcel of the RAPE/Army establishment. But they play an important role - they articulate a viewpoint that strikes a very real chord in the liberal west. The "they're one of us...

kgoan

JRJ's link on Hoodbuoy's article has an interesting line in it: Libya reportedly bankrolled Pakistan and may even have supplied raw uranium. . The reason I find this interesting is that I've spent some time looking for the quid-pro-quo in Pak's proliferation activities. I don't think it's safe for u...

kgoan

Calvin has asked a number of times about Mush's Karachi dash, but there didn't seem to be any info on it to base even a guess on, but something is definitely up. The Friday Times is kind enough to devote a page to tell us that Mush dashed of to Karachi for 4 days to settle a dispute betwwen the MQM ...

kgoan

Where does Pakistan get it's uranium from?

Pakistan is supposed to have it's own mines, especially at Dera Ghazi Khan, but how good are Pak mines given the current situation? i.e. If they were selling everything else, why were they *not* selling yellowcake? Because they couldn't?

kgoan

Now this *is* interesting: http://www.satribune.com/archives/feb15_21_04/opinion_amirmir.htm [/quote]Though Dr Khan has taken complete responsibility for nuclear proliferation to Iran, Libya and North Korea, diplomatic sources close to the US embassy in Islamabad claim the US intelligence has acquir...

kgoan

Bingo! New datum points are starting to come in. . . From the Simon Henderson article posted by Rangudu on the previous page: http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/henderson200402121026.asp The explanation I am waiting for is why a May 2002 test-launch of a nuclear-capable Ghauri missile (technology...

kgoan

R, check the CEIP site, http://www.ceip.org/

They used to have pdf files with maps showing locations of Pak (and Indian) nuke sites etc.

kgoan

Yer have to give it to Ijaz, next to Cohen he really knows how to spin it. Look at this: "Build me a bomb". Know where that's from? Straight out of Lord of the Rings, when Sauron orders Saruman to: "BUILD ME AN ARMY". Enough people have watched the LoR to identify with that phras...

kgoan

>> I'm not quite sure I get that one. Tim: if there is a deeper Pakistani strategy behind the proliferation, then the fact that they did not hand warheads designs to fit the N Korean missiles *seems* to imply that such warhead designs don't exist. Furthermore, if the Pakistanis could have put out a ...

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