Bharat Rakshak

kgoan

That point of Gudakesa's needs to be highlighted. i.e. The payoff is not necessarily what the US will sell us. The payoff is the US *not* interfering when we buy uranium from Australia or Canada or reactors and tech from Russia and France etc. Note: The US nuclear power industry has serious manufact...

kgoan

Calvin: Lovely disection. I'd suggest however, changing the passive "one" to something more active in this sentence, However, when one talks about Nepal, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Burma, Sri Lanka or Afghanistan, one rarely feels compelled to use the generic instead of the specific - and one is ...

kgoan

Heads up folks. That little creep Cohen is hard at work: Cohen's testimony to the US House of Reps Committee on Armed Services Defense Review Threat Panel 26 Sep 2005 has, on the *first* page of his testimony and his *first* main point that: Pakistani scientists, notably A. Q. Khan, provided direct ...

kgoan

And contrary to popular speculation, present plans call for this cruise missile to be armed with only conventional high-explosive and blast-fragmentation warheads. Well, it is Sengupta writing that but, taking that into consideration, and despite all Pillai's bravado, it appears that the Paks have ...

kgoan

Devil's Game: How the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam By Robert Dreyfuss About the book: The first complete investigation of America's most dangerous foreign policy miscalculation: sixty years of support for Islamic fundamentalism Devil's Game is the previously untold account of A...

kgoan

Sunil: There's irrational rationality as a form of deterrence as well. It was perfected by the US. The scenario is the game of chicken played with cars. Two guys in two cars face each other off. Then they drive towards each other for a head-on collison. The guy who blinks first and swerves loses. No...

kgoan

I could be wrong, but if I understand correctly, I think Harpalji's view is related to our public and the pressure on our netas. The janata may never have thought about a pakk jihadi with a nuke. If that idea become prevalent in the public, it could set up uncontrollable pressures on GoI to act in d...

kgoan

That's what I thought when I saw that Jones line and given the good captain Halis careful reading of the forum and the Pakistani propensity to bite the hand that feeds them. Bloody cheek or what, was my first response. OTOH, N's explanantion is probably the correct one. I hope to gawd it is - if Hal...

kgoan

Because the heart of nuclear deterrence is delivery. Everything is about that. Having a nuke is like having a bullet without a gun. A missile without a nuke is a gun without a bullet - or a gun with plastic bullets if conventionally armed. The Chinese may have given the Pakees guns (missiles) and bu...

kgoan

TSJ,

Saudi cash, sure. China? No brainer that.

But Euro tech? I would have thought Ukranian seems more likely.

kgoan

Johann:

Partly correct. Currently, there's no counterforce against the P-5 for obvious reasons.

But not even the most deluded of the Pak generals would believe the "no-first-use" rule would apply to them.

TSJ:

Could you take a shot at your own questions? What's your opinion?

kgoan

And on a different note, I got access to this weeks TFT from a friend who has institutional access. Here's an interview with Nawaz: Rauf Klasra talks to Nawaz Sharif for The Friday Times June 24-30, 2005 - Vol. XVII, No. 18 JEDDAH: Exile has given former premier Nawaz Sharif time to think and ponder...

kgoan

Ramana, it's a conspiracy theory based on reading Pak political moves prior to anything big: One hypothetical argument could go as follows: 1. The US is *always* involved. This isn't because the US is a big bad gorilla but becasue of Paks historic role as a rentier state, note that not even Ayub's t...

kgoan

KS' article and his take on Reidels paper simply seems to strengthen the conclusion BR reached before that kargil wasn't a Pak Army ploy to highlight the Kashmir issue or even to conquer Kashmir. It was to conquer Pakistan. I don't think there's enough information to reach a firm conclusion or even ...

kgoan

I was going through some stuff and found this quote that was so reminiscent of what we were discussing on the first two pages of this thread that; I reckon it's worth quoting here even if it is a bit of topic: 'What went wrong was we fitted bin Laden and al-Qaeda into existing paradigms of terrorism...

kgoan

Rishi, apologies for the late reply, and thanks for the article.

kgoan

For the plutonium route, I think it's worth keeping an open mind on whether it's:

China --> TSP --> NoKo --> others

or, China --> NoKo --> TSP --> others via Paks distribution and financial networks.

I think the latter has more credibility - but only for the plutonium route.

kgoan

Dear me. It would seem that the real hero of the whole Xerox Khan expose has just outed himself - and this hero is . . . Mansoor Ijaz, surprise!

How the fuk does such an mindless braggart getaway with this tripe?

http://www.gulfnews.com/Articles/WorldN ... eID=164378

kgoan

Vale, a great warrior and a superb soldier.

kgoan

IIRC, during the mid-80's there were a number of questions about Germanys future role and possible nuclear ambitions. I think even Time magazine had an article, in the context of the rising Mark, that talked about it. It may *seem* as if the idea of German and Japanese nuclear stuff is so far out of...

kgoan

I haven't seen anything to suggest that Willi Brandt, Gerhard Schroeder, or Helmut Kohl were systematically trying to undermine the NPT. More likely, they were doing everything they could to facilitate trade and improve the German economy.

Just like China and Pakistan a few decades later?

kgoan

If Pakistan CAN'T replicate nuclear designs without foreign components, what is all the fuss about? Why does the Khan network matter so much? Because of the financial and distribution networks. Drugs can be produced in various locations - Myanmar, Afghanistan, Colombia whatever. But it's the distri...

kgoan

Tim, We're looking at different viewpoints and end results. I've seen way to much western analysis that has only one purpose: To discuss Pak nukes within a "normative" framework. Or to put it another way, it promulgates the fiction of Pak *independent* nuke capability. And what that does i...

kgoan

it seems to put to rest the old canard about Pakistan not actually having a capability to create nuclear weapons locally, When was it a "canard"? And how does Paks necessity to still obtain material overseas and maintain the buying networks put said "canard" to rest? Seems to me...

kgoan

An article by A R siddiqi in todays Dawn. BTW, reading between the lines, it strikes me that is an attempt to warn Mush and other elements of the Pak heirarchy that co-operating any more with the US on Khan could lead to the exposure of some of the members other than Khan. What I find interesting is...

kgoan

umm, err, umm . . . Dunno guys, dunno. This is *not* the type of thread that is good to have on the forum. Yes, I know the arguments about the goras knowing everything and only the janta being kept in the dark, but still . . . It's upto the admins but I think you're skating on thin ice here - even i...

kgoan

Cross posting from Ramana's post on p3 of the geopoiltical thread. Another little indicator that Paks been defanged. This time from the CIA itself. See the last paragraph. India, China emerging as new global players, US position will erode, conclude CIA planners BOB DROGIN WASHINGTON, JANUARY 14: In...

kgoan

Hi kgoan, Did you see the note I added in the BR Monitor? LOL! Rakesh, I completely missed that despite it being in bright red unil I saw your post! Hey Rishi: Firstly, :oops: But then again dude, the IAF has had to wait 2 decades nearly for their trainer and yer complaining about 2 measly years? :...

kgoan

Great stuff folks. Lovely design. BTW, I notice that both the Monitor and the Review have a link on the front page. Is BR going to be publishing *2* online journals/magazine? :eek: :eek: It would be remarkable if we could. Perhaps the Monitor could be the magazine type with all the "know your a...

kgoan

Pak view of the deal: Even as India and Pakistan were trying to smoothen differences on an overland oil and gas pipeline from Iran, New Delhi has gone ahead and cut a $40 billion :eek: deal with Iran over the next 25 years on LNG (liquefied natural gas). Is this the end of the Pakistan pipeline issu...

kgoan

Mohan:

Yeah, not to mention the more worrying (terrifying?) possibility that during that time of (what to call it? - the love that dare not speak it's name?) between the Paks and the US, the Paks may have been slipped some US nuke tech as well.

kgoan

There is another, quite obvious, possibility as to why the US is so reluctant to push the Pak nuke prolif thing: That is that China is not the only name that will drop out as to Pak nuke tech and helpers. It's possible that the US' name will also fall out. Along with some of those nice American folk...

kgoan

And it's noticeable to.

Personally, I prefer my own pet conspiracy theory that level 0, if nothing else, acting as a catalyst via the "all weather friendship", is the PRC.

kgoan

Folks, It's a little understood fact that the social construct that binds the politics of the country together is the consensual nature of decision making. It's a uniquely Indian cultural artifact, evolving from our own history, that permeats the entire political/babu decision making spectrum. That'...

kgoan

Serious mistake to underestimate what IB does. Occasionally, the so-called "steel backbone" requires a set of claws that can be discretely wielded within specific circumstances. IB provides them. The DDM version? Well, recall that they used to refer to R & AW as the "Relatives and...

kgoan

MTS:

Does RAW do counterintel? I thought that was handled by a different set of initials.

kgoan

Yes, seems like a lot of fur flying. Sethi joins in as well in his editorial , with the standard cry of injured Pakee innocence. BTW, I'm willing to bet this isn't just Sethi. Some of the fur flying in DC has landed on the Paks and got them worried. EDITORIAL: Motivated media against Pakistan In a s...

kgoan

MTS,

Don't be hesitant to use more of your commentary style posts that you use on BR in your actual writing.

Love that Jacob character. And his riding of on a cycle after the mission with the co not saying anything because it would be "comical", is lovely stuff.

kgoan

Rye, Karthik

Check your emails guys.

kgoan

Actually, ldev, Rye there is just such a document. A long time back, in early 2001 sometime, BR discussed a document which was a transcript of a seminar between the lunatics in Mazaris ISSI and a delegation of Iranian Foreign policy experts. That article was, I think, largely responsible for BR's re...

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