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by RamaY
28 May 2009 23:45
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent
Replies: 2861
Views: 442699

Re: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent

Finally whether I use the word genocide correctly or not is by and large totally irrelevant to the point I made -- which is US actions are very hard brutal and end up destroying the target country utterly but US does not give a damn. Sanku-ji We all are on the same side. My protest is against the u...
by RamaY
28 May 2009 19:17
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: BR Forums Feedback
Replies: 1566
Views: 346385

Re: Site Suggestions & Forum Feedback

Mods, I do not find any logic in keeping topics like psy ops and Benis dhaagas in gen forum. If they are only BR logged in guyz and not for general consumption, we might as well disband them. What purpose does it serve by keeping them behind the veils and discussing in hush hush tones? I am not a M...
by RamaY
28 May 2009 18:52
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent
Replies: 2861
Views: 442699

Re: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent

The great US of A, despite its many flaws gets away with everything: including continuing genocide here and now, and is praised as a role model by folks here, the same ones who don't tire of naval gazing and finding why cant we do anything since we are xyz etc, for one reason and one reason alone -...
by RamaY
28 May 2009 09:54
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent
Replies: 2861
Views: 442699

Re: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent

Let us agree to follow the US model. To achieve that,we must ensure that we EDUCATE all indians on our true history , including the genocides that happened in the name of religion, the shame-less exploitation by our elite leadership and PROUDLY present our national symbols such as Nalanda, Takshila ...
by RamaY
28 May 2009 07:55
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Interests
Replies: 1307
Views: 281223

Re: Indian Interests

The universal adult franchise and levels 2 and 4 are not mutually exclusive. To that point India always had equal social rights to all its citizens, even during the varna system of Indic religions. A sudra's question (however illogical it may sound to us) influenced Rama (the king and god)to send Si...
by RamaY
28 May 2009 06:21
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Interests
Replies: 1307
Views: 281223

Re: Indian Interests

RM takes maximal positions, knowing fully well that his concepts, even if they have merit in parts, will never be implemented in full but he takes these maximal positions to further his agenda. Please do not take the above personally. ShauryaT-ji, your opposing points are valid. I am not saying RM'...
by RamaY
28 May 2009 06:06
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent
Replies: 2861
Views: 442699

Re: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent

We dont stand up for our allies. We give moralistic crap to them even though it doesnt affect us. Why would anyone be with a nagging aunt, who would not even help you when one needs help. Dear Mr. Ravi-Ku, You are incorrect. Indis did standup for all its neighbors, when they needed . This includes ...
by RamaY
28 May 2009 00:21
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Interests
Replies: 1307
Views: 281223

Re: Indian Interests

Everyone looks out for ones family. But..... Can you justify killing someone else's child in the name of "looking after" your own child ? You wouldnt call that family value, would you ? Even in India of today, that would not be condoned, would it ? ... How did Indians make that leap from ...
by RamaY
27 May 2009 23:28
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Interests
Replies: 1307
Views: 281223

Re: Indian Interests

We have a culture that promotes "family values" so it is OK for everyone to put his wife/son etc into positions of power by sheer nepotism. The culture must change. Shiv-ji: You are upset with our "family values" now? Could you please refer a social structure (contemporary or in...
by RamaY
27 May 2009 23:19
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009
Replies: 397
Views: 45101

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

Now, be sure that you can go up against the US + China in the entire IOR. Forget these areas, you will have to add SL + BD + Nepal + Burma + SE Africa (I am not sure if you are aware India is battling Chicom in those areas as well). Indian strategy to keep "K" out was great - but a very s...
by RamaY
27 May 2009 22:59
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Interests
Replies: 1307
Views: 281223

Re: Indian Interests

A corrupt person cannot be a patriot - period. That is an absolute value What actually happens in India is that a huge mass of corrupt people have assumed every single role that an Indian can assume - including the role of the "patriot". ... These are all people who are accepted in India ...
by RamaY
27 May 2009 21:27
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009
Replies: 397
Views: 45101

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

I do not see any value to keeping these consulates open IF the US - the main player - is not going to play ball. It is not that these consulates played this game by themselves, they HAD to have some US nod - however small. IF Obama feels that India cannot contribute and that China, Saudi Arabia and...
by RamaY
27 May 2009 20:23
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent
Replies: 2861
Views: 442699

Re: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent

back to the topic… Referring S-ji’s posts above, it IS possible to develop a strong civilian as well as defense infrastructure in extreme climatic conditions as well as difficult terrain as demonstrated by western nations as well as china. It is matter of national will and efficient use of technolog...
by RamaY
27 May 2009 04:07
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent
Replies: 2861
Views: 442699

Re: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent

^^^ Every civilization (or nation-state/nation/state/kingdom) was free before occupation at one point or other in History. If you have any doubts about PRC's capability in having cold, brutal finesse kindly read chinese history. For example take PRC handling of Aksai-chin, Tibet, Arunachal Pradesh, ...
by RamaY
27 May 2009 02:54
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent
Replies: 2861
Views: 442699

Re: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent

Recall that Shyam Saran has already fired a shot across the bow about the US-PRC new relationship in his speech in January 2009. So you might turn out to be right but I trust the PRC instincts.They will teach India a lesson again for the nuke deal. They wont take peacably whats given to them on pla...
by RamaY
26 May 2009 23:37
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: North Korea conducts underground nuclear test
Replies: 501
Views: 70899

Re: North Korea conducts underground nuclear test

What is the US fascination with Commie PRC? Is the Commie fake? Ramana-garu, It is commie-ba**s that fascinates US mindosphere. India on the other hand is worried to show its ba**s because people may call them yindootva-ba**s and india may become insecular. Our leadership prefers insecurity to inse...
by RamaY
26 May 2009 23:06
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent
Replies: 2861
Views: 442699

Re: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent

:D Taking my whine out of this thread. Apologies!
by RamaY
26 May 2009 20:25
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent
Replies: 2861
Views: 442699

Re: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent

s-ji :rotfl: mee and ramanaji's sahananiki sasthanga pranamalu

In the meantime, the baton is being passed-on like you predicted.

U.S. appeals to China to help stabilize Pakistan[/b]
Updated at: 0925 PST, Monday, May 25, 2009
by RamaY
26 May 2009 20:19
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009
Replies: 516
Views: 192410

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

U.S. appeals to China to help stabilize Pakistan Updated at: 0925 PST, Monday, May 25, 2009 WASHINGTON: The Obama administration has appealed to China to provide training and even military equipment to help Pakistan counter a growing militant threat, U.S. officials said. According to Los Angeles Ti...
by RamaY
26 May 2009 19:04
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent
Replies: 2861
Views: 442699

Re: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent

Some angel smiled upon India and NK conducted a new underground nuclear tests. Does India use this window and test 20 nuclear tests to validate its TN design for sure? If pakis follow suit, we will know who controls what and how much inventory people have. Let us see how our leadership responds. th...
by RamaY
25 May 2009 20:16
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: BR Forums Feedback
Replies: 1566
Views: 346385

Re: Site Suggestions & Forum Feedback

Dear Moderators! I request your permission to create a new thread to track various decisions made by the new INC government. Today I read a news item that Mr. Binayak Sen has been released on bail by Supreme Court. Eventhough there is no direct link between the current administration and this decisi...
by RamaY
25 May 2009 20:04
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent
Replies: 2861
Views: 442699

Re: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent

Some angel smiled upon India and NK conducted a new underground nuclear tests.

Does India use this window and test 20 nuclear tests to validate its TN design for sure? If pakis follow suit, we will know who controls what and how much inventory people have.

Let us see how our leadership responds.
by RamaY
24 May 2009 21:58
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent
Replies: 2861
Views: 442699

Re: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent

We had a whole series of thread locked to narrow the discussion down to areas that cause the least takleef to a narrow set of opinions. Recall that this forum has discussed the US elections in detail. We always shy away from talking about difficult topics about India. I agree with you on everything...
by RamaY
24 May 2009 21:04
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent
Replies: 2861
Views: 442699

Re: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent

It is good that you suggest that one should not bother about international opinion, but somehow the international opinion does matter to those who run this country and hopefully they know what they are doing. This is the crux of the problem RayC-saar. All those locked threads were attempting to dis...
by RamaY
24 May 2009 20:49
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent
Replies: 2861
Views: 442699

Re: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent

And how do the colleges make money? "Donations" of course. An old old and very dear childhood friend of mine is a successful doctor in Pune - he has literally made crores and has several local corporators "in his pocket". He paid a donation of Rs 15 lakhs to gain admission for o...
by RamaY
24 May 2009 20:34
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent
Replies: 2861
Views: 442699

Re: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent

The 15-21 day was concept is meaningless IMO. Did Iraq war end in 20 days? Did Afghan war end in 20 days? Did WOT finish in 20 days? RamaY, Check how the wars we have fought so far got stopped. That is why 15 to 21 days stretched to a month, maybe. Theoretically, your idea is good. But it is estima...
by RamaY
24 May 2009 20:17
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent
Replies: 2861
Views: 442699

Re: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent

What do you propose that should be done and how will you achieve capturing the whole of POK and NA with the military organisation that you have, the finance available to the country and the time that will be there 15 to 21 days before the international powers bring pressure to halt the war? I will ...
by RamaY
24 May 2009 19:15
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent
Replies: 2861
Views: 442699

Re: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent

Pranav, Here I would just like to say that MMS is having a tough time not to accommodate Baalu and Raja, so how can corruption go? If the CBI cannot take Quatrochhi (spelling!), Mayawati, Mulayam and Lallu to the courts, how will corruption vanish? If to be declared a Below Poverty Line person requ...
by RamaY
24 May 2009 19:06
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent
Replies: 2861
Views: 442699

Re: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent

That is why I posted this a page ago. If Reagan and company had sat around thinking Soviet Union cannot and should not be erased due to nuke factor etc., we still would have the Cold war going on. The biggest mistake is to ask implementors to decide on policy. You will find a hazar reasons why its ...
by RamaY
23 May 2009 23:02
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent
Replies: 2861
Views: 442699

Re: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent

Since we are in Future Strategic Scenario, the ideas that appear pipe dreams today must be made into facts of tomorrow Like what? Please leave Hinduvta out and spreading it world wide. Then we an discuss. Nice try :lol: Seriously, talking about Indian national interests is Hindutva to you? When I t...
by RamaY
23 May 2009 22:45
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent
Replies: 2861
Views: 442699

Re: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent

But facts are to be forward and not pipedreams. Very true. Facts and ground realities must be the basis for any planning. Since we are in Future Strategic Scenario, the ideas that appear pipe dreams today must be made into facts of tomorrow. This is the same question I asked in the other (locked) t...
by RamaY
23 May 2009 22:24
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent
Replies: 2861
Views: 442699

Re: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent

It is like us telling Manmohan how to run the govt. :rotfl: Deve Gowda, IKG, Laloo, Mayavathi, Mulayam, DMK also ran/running govts. Our MMS-ji is also running (or is it Sonia-ji) a govt. But where is it taking this nation? Tomorrow Rahul-ji will also run a govt if Indian democracy blesses him. Coul...
by RamaY
23 May 2009 21:11
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent
Replies: 2861
Views: 442699

Re: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent

RamaY How much does a ship cost? How mcuh would a flotilla plus cost? HOw many flotillas required plus reserve? India has those resources? If so, I am with you! I googled it and got the cost estimates. The question is will the cost results in a profitable return? What are the benefits of having abs...
by RamaY
23 May 2009 20:25
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent
Replies: 2861
Views: 442699

Re: Future strategic scenario for the Indian Subcontinent

Marwaris being businessmen have a say in the nation’s economy as they did in Bangladesh and also they do so in Nepal and yet they do not assimilate with the locals. This causes heartburns. Fortunately they are sharp and so the buy their peace. Interesting perspective! Earlier you used similar logic...
by RamaY
23 May 2009 09:03
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Strategic leadership for the future of India
Replies: 1978
Views: 321924

Re: Strategic leadership for the future of India

IMO, BJP has excellent chance of getting 400 seats in 2014 if 1. it can reduce poverty in Gujarat, Karnataka, MP and other states it has 2. It can provide near zero corruption police in these states 3. It can provide near zero courts where cases get disposed in 2-3 months in above states 4. It abol...
by RamaY
19 May 2009 21:28
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Modeling Geostrategic Dynamics for the Indian Subcontinent
Replies: 238
Views: 39124

Re: Modeling Geostrategic Dynamics for the Indian Subcontinent

Shiv-ji and others, I was playing with one of the pre-existing models in NetLogo and found an interesting aspect. This model has two groups. Each group prefers to have x and y percent of its neighbors of same kind. If they are unhappy, the try to relocate. I set the model to have x to be happy with ...
by RamaY
19 May 2009 01:53
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown
Replies: 3894
Views: 1141155

Re: Perspectives on the global economic meltdown

Dilbu wrote:Where does dhoti clad SDRE stand when compared to these TFTA nations? I do hope it is a yindoo rate of external debt onree. :twisted:
23rd from bottom. Works out to be 5% of GDP (~150B) and per capita external debt is $130.
by RamaY
14 May 2009 18:53
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Modeling Geostrategic Dynamics for the Indian Subcontinent
Replies: 238
Views: 39124

Re: Modeling Geostrategic Dynamics for the Indian Subcontinent

RamaY, Try the Sri lanka scenario above for starters. Ramana-garu, I will start working on it today. I found Eclipse a little hard to learn, NetLogo appeared more intuitive to me. Irrespective of the tool, I will work on the model first. Do you think it is a good idea we post the working models her...