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by shiv
25 Apr 2018 22:22
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1139533

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Nilesh Oak wrote:SI-3 presentations coming out at Snail's pace (the following presentation came out 1-2 days ago)

Here is one that presents some of our BRFites...

https://youtu.be/RaN5bYPWtX8
The very first talk - 0 to 10 minutes is by a brfite!
by shiv
25 Apr 2018 07:12
Forum: Military Expositions Archive
Topic: DefExpo 2018 Chennai
Replies: 335
Views: 126625

Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

Looking at all those beautiful pics I am going to send a message to MoD and IAF that all aircraft should be painted bright yellow, red and pale green so that they can be seen clearly in photos with sky as background.
by shiv
24 Apr 2018 19:27
Forum: Military Expositions Archive
Topic: DefExpo 2018 Chennai
Replies: 335
Views: 126625

Re: DefExpo 2018 Chennai

There must be good amount of lift from those wide wings on LCH. Have they considered these for Rudra? Why would the Rudra need more lift from wings? Not mocking - but just curious about your line of reasoning. In the LCH the lift, if any will be counteracted by stores on the wings that count as drag.
by shiv
24 Apr 2018 17:24
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1139533

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

A_Gupta wrote:
shiv wrote:
So, to throw away this "hope" I should expect that if Rakhigarhi aDNA shows up, ADMIXTURE will show it to be Onge + Iran_N with hardly a trace of anything else?
All I am saying is - whatever the genetic findings - it has nothing to do with language - at least around 1500 BC
by shiv
24 Apr 2018 11:05
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1139533

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Rudradev I don't know if you saw my query on this. The Vagheesh paper in the line they use to describe AASI have used a reference to a paper called the Simons Genome Project by Mullick et al. I downloaded the paper and that paper speaks only of Onge apart from other non Indian populations (eg Oz abo...
by shiv
24 Apr 2018 09:20
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1139533

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

As you can infer, I'm clinging on to hope that it won't be just the evidence of the Rg Veda itself that sets this straight. Some genetics data would be good too :). As to what that might be, e.g., if Rakhigarhi shows that tiny bit of green -- see Shiv's posting above -- that accounts for the Siberi...
by shiv
24 Apr 2018 07:04
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1139533

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Comment on my blog: " tim drake said... "It is likely is that a hypothetical Punjab_N population from even before agriculture would have been related to the Iran_N people, somewhere along a cline between Iran_N in Iran (whose aDNA has been found) and peoples in India's interior" -- A...
by shiv
23 Apr 2018 19:24
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1139533

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

My response to the biorxiv paper on FB. Please share. Actually I need to do something more detailed than this..
https://www.facebook.com/shivsas3/posts ... 1583820011
by shiv
23 Apr 2018 09:01
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1139533

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Agasthi, that statement needs to be blasted out on Twitter. Kindly do the honours and let us know your handle, or let shiv do it... and we'll all retweet the bytes out of it... Beautifully worded. Two Tweets (Not Two teats) https://twitter.com/bennedose/status/988233223539900416 https://twitter.com...
by shiv
23 Apr 2018 06:39
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016
Replies: 4822
Views: 1460248

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

How much information about battle do we get from narratives of real battles and how much from video games? The difference as I see it is that all ships and aircraft have "expendables" that get expended and cannot be earned by mouse clicks. Food, water, fuel, lubricating oils, spare parts t...
by shiv
22 Apr 2018 20:47
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1139533

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

^Can I cross post this beautifully worded statement on Twitter?
by shiv
22 Apr 2018 17:47
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016
Replies: 4822
Views: 1460248

Re: Indian Navy News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

Amazing image. they have managed to reduce the size of Barak to 10 cm diameter and Brahmos to maybe 20-30 cm. And they have fitted such a huge gun. Maybe railgun? Or railway inside gun.. The entire 8 Brahmos launch area would fit inside the footprint of the gun turret alone. Compare with the "m...
by shiv
22 Apr 2018 17:38
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)
Replies: 6236
Views: 1792204

Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

These "experts" simply copypaste what can be found on Google just like news about Casmere was - for a decade "800000000000000000000000000000 cvilians killed and preganent wimmens had their bellies rippyed open"
by shiv
22 Apr 2018 17:32
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 5116
Views: 1900076

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions - May 2017

ramana wrote:Are they fighting Warsaw pact forces?
3000 Nags.
100,000 APFDS.
China
by shiv
22 Apr 2018 11:45
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018
Replies: 3909
Views: 1460637

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

I heard that one Tejas in the recent exercise took 23 seconds to take off rather than 21. I hope this is not a worrying thing given that 21 or less should be the norm according to my late cousin with whom I spoke a few days ago. Also why did they use only 4 out of 5 Tejas. This is very worrying to m...
by shiv
22 Apr 2018 11:41
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018
Replies: 3909
Views: 1460637

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

symontk wrote:One question

Wont OBOGS be a liability in case airbases are attacked with WMD? Or are there filters for that?
why would it be a liability?
by shiv
22 Apr 2018 08:13
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1139533

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Good Stuff, Dr. Shiv. Thanks Nilesh. I expect it to appear on the biorixiv site soon. I think 90% of Indians who learn about Aryan "invasion" or "migration" miss the woods for the trees. They fret about the migration part - which is unimportant. What led to the rewriting of our ...
by shiv
22 Apr 2018 07:42
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1139533

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Talking about language AIT Ayatollahism The Sound of the Avestan Language (Vendidad:The Earth) sounds familiar in tone and rhythm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPyRu7fLoFw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnjSAPye6d8 THis is like Japji Sahib https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWnAyQKQqFo And here is ...
by shiv
21 Apr 2018 14:44
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1139533

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

I pointed out in my earlier post that there are two important preconditions to make a claim that people from place A took their language to place B and introduced that language for the first time in place B. First there must be incontrovertible evidence that the migrants from place A actually used t...
by shiv
21 Apr 2018 11:10
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1139533

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

I do not intend to question the genetics findings of the Vagheesh et al paper because I am not a genetics researcher and I have myself not gone through all the details of the paper to critique its methodology. Obviously as in all science, the paper will get validated or rebutted via future papers fr...
by shiv
21 Apr 2018 08:49
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1139533

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

A_Gupta wrote:1. Language tree is more like a banyan tree than a pipal tree?
Then PIE is like Orchid. No roots.

Orchid also means balls. It's all balls.

See the number of US Americans who are now learning Spanish? Not because Spaniards colonized the US.
by shiv
21 Apr 2018 08:12
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018
Replies: 3909
Views: 1460637

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

One Question maybe a dumb one .. Does all the activity this mean that the Tejas flight envelope is completely opened and the flight laws of the aircraft are presumed to sufficiently coded complete for all aircraft operations including combat maneuvering ? Or will the tweaking process still continue...
by shiv
21 Apr 2018 08:12
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018
Replies: 3909
Views: 1460637

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

I am glad the OBOGS is an O2 concentrator system and not a generation system as that could be fire hazard. Most likely a N2 absorption system. The entire system looks like a hospital operating room Anesthesia system. shiv your thoughts? ramana I think it must be a concentrator and not a generator, ...
by shiv
21 Apr 2018 07:45
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1139533

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

You are right, genetics does not correlate with language movement, but if gene studies were to show that there was no sudden influx of "alien" genes into the Indian population, that's an argument against AIT, right? There have always been migrations into India. India is too attractive a l...
by shiv
21 Apr 2018 07:17
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1139533

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

It asked "How are all Indian groups a combo of Steppe, Iran etc DNA?". Basically, if India was already heavily populated, how do you explain a handful of Nomadic pastoralists to pass their genes onto enough people that practically all modern Indians carry it? As far as I am concerned - if...
by shiv
21 Apr 2018 07:15
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1139533

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Vagheesh has asked for comments at length on biorxv. I will draft a comment here and then post it on there. Arun - would you like to take a shot? If I get inspiration in the next few minutes my draft comment will appear here first.
by shiv
20 Apr 2018 17:02
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1139533

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Arun, Vagheesh has asked for everyone on Twitter to join hands and send him a document explaining how languages are related from Delhi to Dublin. This is a tall order on many counts, especially considering that we were discussing a genetics paper until he made linguistics conclusions and some of us ...
by shiv
20 Apr 2018 14:14
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016
Replies: 5322
Views: 1834807

Re: Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 15 Dec 2016

vasu raya wrote:How did the IAF manage without affecting civilian traffic?
Civilian traffic would have been warned to stay out of certain zones
by shiv
20 Apr 2018 12:45
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018
Replies: 3909
Views: 1460637

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Pratyush wrote:
shiv wrote: No because such missions have been done by Su-30 without OBOGS. However bogs would have been useful, but diapers were used instead.

Shiv, what is the relationship between OBOGS and diapers?
That was a pun on the word "bogs" an outdated slang word for toilet
by shiv
20 Apr 2018 11:22
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018
Replies: 3909
Views: 1460637

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Singha wrote:is obogs a must for long duration missions like 4 hrs of cap or 6 hrs of dpsa ? or can o2 bottles cope?
No because such missions have been done by Su-30 without OBOGS. However bogs would have been useful, but diapers were used instead.
by shiv
20 Apr 2018 09:41
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - May 2017
Replies: 5116
Views: 1900076

Re: Indian Missiles News and Discussions - May 2017

ramana wrote:The Nirbhay is similar in size and performance to the U.S. Tomahawk and Russia’s Caliber 3M54/3M14 cruise missiles. It is six meters (19.7 feet) long and has a cylindrical body with diameter of 0.52 m (67 inches).

That 3 meter diameter container must be for this 67 inch diameter missile :D
by shiv
20 Apr 2018 09:33
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1139533

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

You're on a roll Arun. Let me digress. That blog mentioning David Anthony about whom I have been ranting gave new meaning to the statement "Jo Lahore mein gandu woh Peshawar mein bhi gandu"
by shiv
19 Apr 2018 22:06
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1139533

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Arun you were on full afterburner on Twitter..
by shiv
19 Apr 2018 14:16
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018
Replies: 3909
Views: 1460637

Re: Tejas Mk.1 & Mk.1A News & Discussions: 09 February 2018

Cybaru wrote:How do the Russians and french solve the same problem?
Do the Russians even have an OBOGS? pliss to Gookal search and point me to one..
by shiv
19 Apr 2018 08:20
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1139533

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

I second the humble request by somebody else earlier in this thread - can we please have a layman's perspective (just a line or two) of the summary of the genetic findings, and the case for/against AIT, based on the genetics? Please pardon me while I repeat what I have said in the past. There is a ...
by shiv
19 Apr 2018 07:42
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1139533

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Vallath_Balakrishnan/publication/15963819_Lactose_intolerance_in_North_and_South_Indians/links/5458736e0cf26d5090ab6368/Lactose-intolerance-in-North-and-South-Indians.pdf Lactose intolerance in North and South Indians Rakesh K. Tandon,3 Y K. Joshi,4 D. S. Singh,...
by shiv
18 Apr 2018 22:13
Forum: Strategy, Politics & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5459
Views: 1139533

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Peter, there are now five different variants -as of 2017 - involved in lactase persistence. The European/Steppe variant is not sufficient to explain the lactase persistence in India described in the medical literature. Of course the medical literature which says that 40% of Indians are lactase pers...