India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

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Postby Vayutuvan » 09 Sep 2021 10:01

sanjaykumar wrote:https://historianaudreytruschke.wordpress.com/2020/09/17/audrey-truschkes-win-india-for-christ/

I care neither for Tawdry Audrey (this is copyrighted, ...


I expected that you would go with "Gauche Truschke".
My bad. "Gauche" is reserved only for Indians born in desh emigrating to the old blighty, I suppose. :mrgreen:

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Postby chetak » 09 Sep 2021 10:25

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Postby krithivas » 09 Sep 2021 12:18

NYT, New York Tamasha?

chetak wrote:Image

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Postby Pratyush » 09 Sep 2021 15:09

Naah, NYT is now fully woke. They got rid of Barry Wise just because she allowed some conservative to write an opinion piece.

Someone who had cancelled others was cancelled herself.

So NYT should not be seen as a newspaper anymore. It's a propaganda rag.
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Postby sanjaykumar » 09 Sep 2021 19:05

Gauche has a silent terminal e. Truschke is likely Germanic and ends as does Porsche. “ Porsh a”.

A for effort anyway. :mrgreen:

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Postby Vayutuvan » 10 Sep 2021 05:01

I know. Gauche Sai Deepak vs sophisticated Dr. Shashi Tharoor may be a a better word usage. he he. (Sorry for the OT).

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Postby krisna » 10 Sep 2021 05:55


over 5 lakhs views in 5 days.

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Postby krisna » 10 Sep 2021 05:57



>1 million views wrt soros and his connections- 1 month old

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Postby Hari Seldon » 10 Sep 2021 10:47

Doubtless WION and palki_Bai are doing yeoman service. may their tribe grow.

GoI can silently help by incorporating some of this reportage into K-12 CBSE syllabi under 'social studies' or 'contemporary events' or GK or whatever. Thing needs dissemination too among next-gensters too, no?

After all, doesn't BIF-ki-amma Beeb run on 'involuntary' public donations after all, hain ji?

Only.

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Postby Rakesh » 10 Sep 2021 21:17

https://twitter.com/sushantsareen/statu ... 93282?s=20 ---> High time India asks the US: “Are you with us or against us”? The Americans can’t strike deals with terrorist states (Af&Pak) who target India & still expect a robust Indo-Pacific partnership…my take for ⁦@news18dotcom

The Strategic Disconnect between India and US Has Been Revealed by Afghanistan
https://www.news18.com/news/opinion/the ... 79290.html
08 Sept 2021

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Postby hnair » 11 Sep 2021 09:00

Tomorrow is 20th anniversary of September 11.

When Dr Manmohan Singh and his govt send endless dossiers to pakis after Mumbai attacks, we were all outraged. But at least we did not lose further lives of soldiers and trillions of our tax money on a quest at the end of which paki mischief making machinery is intact and that fat jihadi with orange beard became their PM. But that is exactly what the americans are facing on the anniversary

So one wonders what americans (of all hues) will be feeling about the empty speech that their POTUS will be reading off a teleprompter? Probably a mention of his late son, who died with dignity at a hospital and not Afghanistan or Iraq like other sons with less dignity. It is a sorry scene to put it mildly.

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Postby Vayutuvan » 11 Sep 2021 11:11

is it a foregone conclusion that the POTUS would be reading an empty speech (written by mr. Reddy) off of a teleprompter?!!! :roll:

President Biden might surprise one and all. But then BRF, especially the current set of admins, is ahead of the curve. Sope anything is possible. :twisted:
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Postby Mort Walker » 11 Sep 2021 17:38

The US president is not going to publicly speak at 9/11 memorials. There will be private visits to various places and meeting party loyalists. The reason being was that many US military veterans, police, firefighters, and other past officials were planning to turn their backs on the US president as he spoke as a sign of protest. That makes bad TV visuals and image handling.

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Postby vijayk » 11 Sep 2021 19:49

I have one more angle to this Dismantling Hindutva conference. Very sinister thinking from white privileged US and UK. The goal is is to turn Islamic Jihadi wrath from the west to India and Hindus with help of privileged white academicians and filthy Indian leftist human garbage

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Postby vijayk » 11 Sep 2021 22:18

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Rajiv Malhotraji is speaking.

He talks about motivation for Dismantle Hindutva conference. It is basically setting up a foundation to justify the genocide of Hindus in the future just like the way they wrote about Native Indians 400 years ago. It is Atrocity literature

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Postby sudarshan » 11 Sep 2021 22:33

hnair wrote:Tomorrow is 20th anniversary of September 11.

When Dr Manmohan Singh and his govt send endless dossiers to pakis after Mumbai attacks, we were all outraged. But at least we did not lose further lives of soldiers and trillions of our tax money on a quest at the end of which paki mischief making machinery is intact and that fat jihadi with orange beard became their PM. But that is exactly what the americans are facing on the anniversary

So one wonders what americans (of all hues) will be feeling about the empty speech that their POTUS will be reading off a teleprompter? Probably a mention of his late son, who died with dignity at a hospital and not Afghanistan or Iraq like other sons with less dignity. It is a sorry scene to put it mildly.


Happy Taliban Day to one and all :). I think the day should be known that way from now on, and anybody who objects should be taken to task for being I*phobic. Also look forward to the US seeing the light and taking honorable ministers off their wanted lists.

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Postby disha » 15 Sep 2021 04:37

Sept 11, 2021 The day Terroristan was born.

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Postby disha » 15 Sep 2021 04:38

Gen. Milley proves old doc saying:

Jo Lawhore or Taiwan mein Gandu woh Washington mein bhi Gandu

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Postby Ambar » 15 Sep 2021 04:49

Can't believe my man actually told the Chinese General that he'll personally ring him up well in advance if US decided to attack China :rotfl:

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Postby Pratyush » 15 Sep 2021 09:23

The competence displayed by Gen Milley over the last few years. Makes me believe that he would say something like that.

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Postby Manish_P » 15 Sep 2021 09:37

disha wrote:Sept 11, 2021 The day Terroristan was born.


:shock:

Really, Disha ji... so all the terrorist attacks in India before 9/11 were just peaceful protests eh :roll: ??

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Postby Pratyush » 15 Sep 2021 12:08

Disha means in Washington DC and not for US.

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Postby hemant_sai » 15 Sep 2021 12:29

vijayk wrote:...
He talks about motivation for Dismantle Hindutva conference. It is basically setting up a foundation to justify the genocide of Hindus in the future just like the way they wrote about Native Indians 400 years ago. It is Atrocity literature


I fail to understand hinduphobia of west countries. If at all India falls in the hand of ijlameek uueema - west will be surely doomed.
if at all it happens - it will happen in next 30-50 years. By then India's military power will be significant compared to now. And if ijlameek uueema gets control of it - then west is doomed.

Keeping India out of ijlameek uueema's reach is actually beneficial to the world.

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Postby nandakumar » 15 Sep 2021 12:39

Pratyush wrote:The competence displayed by Gen Milley over the last few years. Makes me believe that he would say something like that.

Can you please amplify that? I am not well up on US politics or military. But would like to know.

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Postby chetak » 15 Sep 2021 12:43

Pratyush wrote:The competence displayed by Gen Milley over the last few years. Makes me believe that he would say something like that.



what he has done to trump is treasonous

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Postby Cyrano » 15 Sep 2021 13:48

I fail to understand hinduphobia of west countries


Quite simple actually.

Christianity is a fundamentally proselytic religion, and India is the last remaining "pagan idol worshipping" land where even today a billion souls can be converted. To do this, hinduphobia is ongoing preparatory work to criticise, distort and demean Hinduism, its symbols, scriptures and history. If Hindus fall for it and start self loathing, they become ripe and easy targets to be harvested by western (funded) evangelists. Hence the virulent focus on caste, brahminism, women's oppression and Hindutva.

Islam is much more overtly political, (because it doesnt suffer from the "separation of church & state") and therefore takes the same attitude to the next level very overtly, and seeks to convert, subjugate or eliminate the "kafir who commit shirk" until the last man on the earth - as ordained by their book & prophet in explicit terms. The very existence of a thriving, prosperous Hindu civilisation right next to them rankles their crass, exploitative and destructive worldview doesn't let them sleep. Its methods are consequently more direct and violent today than Xtianity, and is resumed in "Ghazwa e Hind".

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Postby Pratyush » 15 Sep 2021 14:01

Nandkumar,

1) The non compliance Trump's ordered withdrawal from multiple unauthorised battlefields in Africa and Asia.
2) the Afghan withdrawal muck up.
3) the general wokeness.
4) so called white rage comment on politics.
5) the call to PRC regarding advanced warning to them in case of any attack' by United States.

If it was not done to Trump, he would have been relieved of his position at the first offence.

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Postby Manish_P » 15 Sep 2021 15:48

Pratyush wrote:Disha means in Washington DC and not for US.


If that was so then how do you explain all the Washington DC sanctioned and pentagon approved aid to the major non-nato ally since that day?

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Postby Pratyush » 15 Sep 2021 16:27

Since when? 11 September 2021?

Which is what Disha has written.

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Postby Manish_P » 15 Sep 2021 18:18

Mea culpa.

I didn't see the year.

However, I still think it's immaterial. Jihadistan will not be called terroristan by the US, not even if the next lot of attackers on the US are traced to be of Paki origin.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Lohit » 16 Sep 2021 08:08

The rapidly crystallizing global world order of the 21st c and the role of the US in birthing it (Analysis / Essay)

The focal point of all geo-political analyses, these days, has coagulated under the central theme of the rise of China and measures to counter/contain/manage it.

However, I feel all such analyses are misguided or deliberately obfuscate, the reality of how geo-politics is likely to shape. The real principles governing the rise of a new world order and its accompanying geo-politics can be gleaned quite easily if one understands the following,

1. Global corporations own Nations: Globally nation states, especially those in the West are now completely beholden to the massive global corporates. This means the policy and action that nations take up, shall be dictated by what corporates have always wanted and will always want - maximizing profits and share holder returns. I do not think that this point requires much explanation. Corporate lobbies and how money controls politicians is a fairly well established fact.

2. The paramount priority of global corporations and ergo the nations they control - is the undisputed and unimpeded rise of China: If we look at projections of consumer market size and value growth, for the coming 30 years, it becomes amply clear that - firstly China is expected to grow to almost 3-4 times of where it is today. By contrast other G20 economies with perhaps the exception of India and a few others, will either shrink in terms of consumers available or shrink/stagnate in terms of average consumer spend.

A good sense of the shift that I am referring to, can be had by eyeballing this report: https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/research-insi ... -2050.html

Ask yourself, if you were the Chairman of a Fortune 50 firm or the CEO of a trillion dollar asset management firm, whose job only depends on churning double digit growth figures to your shareholders every quarter after quarter - how would you do achieve that, if you were to ignore China? It is simply impossible.

Over the coming 30 years, US-Western Europe-Japan, who perhaps account for 40-50% of global consumption demand would have shrunk to 20-25%. Worse still the populations would have aged considerably - how do you sell fast food, sneakers and fast fashion to a cohort of 45-50+ year olds?

Contrast that to China. As it stands, Greater China (ie Mainland+HK+Macao and in some cases Taiwan) accounts for 25-40% consumer consumption for almost all global corporates. In some cases, for instance Hollywood box-office, gaming or merchandise sales - consumer spending in China, already exceeds that of the US! And remember, this is when in the post COVID world, most countries face high inflation and a general "pooring" of their populations, while China and its people grow richer (and never mind the hype around Evergrande etc, its just the 'Three Gorges is collpasing' syndrome) - and will continue to grow in size and spending power by leaps and bounds in the next 30-50 years.

I recall from some older posts, that a lot of the old members of the board already foresaw this quite clearly fact - that the Khan and China were always thick as thieves. But for me personally, the actions of the corrupt Biden administration (not that Trump and the phony trade war was very different!), have served the purpose of pulling off the veil quite decidedly.

Consider the following,

Gen Milley, calls a Chinese General, behind his president's back and says, “Things may look unsteady, but that’s the nature of democracy" - when US supposedly champions and exports the same exact Democracy to the world. Heck, a few years back Milley explicitly stated that "China is not our enemy."

Xi Jinping's daughter studies in Harvard for 4 years under Obama admin, even as the US is well aware of what is happening to the **precious** human rights in Xin Jiang and how perniciously Chinese hackers are stealing from the US and murdering off its agents in China.

CCP awards Hunter Biden millions of dollars worth of scarcely concealed bribes, with Hunter requesting a separate set of keys for - Joe Biden - https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter ... c-chairman

All this of course, comes in a long line of tradition.

Nixon built the foundation for China's economic rise with the Shanghai communique.

Carter withdrew the defense treaty with Taiwan and erased it as a nation under the Taiwan Relations Act, tearing up the Sino-American Mutual Defense Treaty.

Regan armed China with 100s of Million dollar worth of advanced arms, artillery and avionics - https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/ ... dac46c6fc4

Clinton not only helped Chinese economy reach an inflection point by enabling its entry to the WTO and letting it become US' largest trade partner - he even helped China acquire ICBM technology - https://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/11/worl ... china.html

The list is endless. The only difference is that while before the US leaders held a semblance of dignity and formed policy to enable China's rise, they have now become its cup bearers and bed warmers. Biden begs for a face-face meeting with Xi and is publicly rebuffed!

Make no mistake, China is already the world's most powerful country, and more than China, it is the Western nations that want it so.
This is the central principle.

Yes, we may see moves like Australia being given nuclear subs or the odd Huawei CxO detained in Canada - but these are merely feints and pawn-like moves on the global geo-political chessboards. The moment China gives a trade or commercial concessions, such "resolves" will disappear into thin air.

It is important that India, recognizes the central principle and is not fooled by getting pulled into such feints as inevitably, they will only end one way - kowtowing to China once it begrudgingly granted the desired favor - leaving so called Western "allies and partners", high and dry to the tender mercies of China.

As China rises and NATO compromises to its wishes and withdraws its influence, we will see the emergence of regional power blocs. The two most worrying ones for us, in my view, will be - the renewed Ottoman empire (with sway over North Africa, the Stans and the Gulf). Even Russia perhaps - it is projected to be muslim majority in 30 years and who knows, by then we may see a Russian president praying together with the Turkish "khalifa" in Hagia Sophia.

The other power, shall be the renewed Persian empire (with sway over Iraq and the Levant). While these two mini-super powers will often be at odds with the other - both will naturally take up their old civilizational role of being inimical to India, the nation of infidels.

For China and by extension NATO and Iran as well as Turkey - shared interests would converge in, to borrow the term in vogue, "dismantling" India. A number of squabbling nations fighting over limited resources - and of course the traditional, caste/creed/language/religion - is what they would want to see. A captive, weak market that additionally serves up as a buffer between the China and the rest.

All of these aggressors - Islamic, Western powers and China perceive us as an accidental state, holding scores of nations at each others throats. A timid peoples, all to ready to be divided and ruled and eager to serve at the beck and call of outside masters. And given our hstory, heck even as matters stand today - who can blame them for believing so?

The ramifications of this crystallizing new world order are two-fold,

1. Globally, enlightenment values of individual rights, liberty, democracy etc will increasingly vanish - resetting the gains for the human condition of the past 100s of years
2. Internally, India will face extremely high external pressure on its national sovereignty and infact its very existence as a nation state


Faced with such odds, it is important that more than Indian policy makers and leaders - Indian people realize the crisis that we are at. If they decide, we can still be the masters of our own destiny and retain our rightful place in the world order. Afterall the same projections, also indicate India too will be a very large and lucrative marketplace.

The only way I see the analysis outlined above, not holding up, a sort of Pascal's wager if you will - is if there is a realization in NATO powers that a China, enthroned as numero uno, will end the progressive western values and individual rights. Frankly, given the vested interests of corporates and the sheer power at their behest I do not see this happening.

The only way the stranglehold of corporations is challenged can be by leftist popular movements. Corporations have this covered already - the so called BLM, LGBT, Green and other such movements are for the most part controlled by Corporate interests and figureheads such as the notorious George Soros. They are compromised at their very birth - a controlled opposition. And even such movements ultimately look up to China. Thus the hedge is already in place.

Our ancestors, preserved dharmic values and culture - for 300 years against the Turks, 400 years against the Moguls and 200 years against the Europeans. They performed Jauhars and Sakas. Men reconquered lands that had been lost for hundreds of years right till the Attock. Women fought in the battlefield with babies tied to their backs. For what? To preserve Dharma.

Like those hundreds of years, we too can tide this period of global dominance by an evil, autocratic, God-less and merciless China and its Western lackeys. IF, we remember what's important and why it is worth fighting for.

For me personally, UP elections will mark a great bell-weather. If Yogi looses, combined with the loss in Bengal - it will give enough momentum to the opposition to oust Namo in 2024. Then we are right back to potentially decades of chaos and strife. And given the external factors described above, it will make the 80s and early 90s period as India experienced them, seem like a time of amazing peace and prosperity.

As long as we are sorted within, we can crush anything that the world throws at us. If not, we already have the history of the past 1000 years to teach us what happens next.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Manish_P » 16 Sep 2021 08:20

Very Good post, Lohit ji.

Perhaps you could consider adding a line about how China identified it's aging population as a future negative and is seeking to negate it by having reversed it's one-child policy..

Or perhaps you could do a similar analysis on China in the Chinese thread.

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Postby chetak » 16 Sep 2021 08:38

there is always a catch with these guys.......

and what do they want in return, is it over the horizon targeting.....


@ANI ·5h
During a meeting just 8 days ago, US ambassador to India told me that US is interested in transferring its capital from China to India. They want to support us with their technology and capital for the progress and development of India: Union Minister Nitin Gadkari (15.09)

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Postby Lohit » 16 Sep 2021 08:42

Manish_P wrote:Very Good post, Lohit ji.

Perhaps you could consider adding a line about how China identified it's aging population as a future negative and is seeking to negate it by having reversed it's one-child policy..

Or perhaps you could do a similar analysis on China in the Chinese thread.


Dhanyavaad Manish ji. Indeed China is in the process of instituting and enforcing some very deep societal reforms/changes -

Reversing the one child rule and paying families that have more kids as well as extending paid parental leave to 12 months

Mandating marriage festivals for unmarried men and women, held at workplaces and requiring the company to pay for them

Revising education curriculum to curb feminization of boys and making them more "masculine and warrior-like" as well as ensuring girls are molded to be more motherly and feminine, focused on raising families

Placing bans, severely limiting consumption of social media and online gaming

Coming down hard on the 996 culture to ensure parents can spend more time with families

Placing bans on media that is seen to encourage LGBT themes or effeminate men

Cracking down on public smoking, post-work drinking alcohol and karoke and infact banning drinking for civil servants

And there are more. Basically, China is ensuring that their citizens are not turned into slaves of corporate consumption as has happened in the west. And like all things that the CCP does, they are doing it clinically and thoroughly.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Lohit » 16 Sep 2021 08:48

chetak wrote:there is always a catch with these guys.......

and what do they want in return, is it over the horizon targeting.....


@ANI ·5h
During a meeting just 8 days ago, US ambassador to India told me that US is interested in transferring its capital from China to India. They want to support us with their technology and capital for the progress and development of India: Union Minister Nitin Gadkari (15.09)


Good to see Gadkari building pressure on the US. Although to be honest I don't see this happening.

For instance, will we see the US asking Ford to close its plants in China and shift them to India? When the Indian market's woeful performance forced Ford to close its operations in India.

While at the same time - July 9, 2021 – Ford Motor Company continued to deliver growth in segments critical to its Ford+ plan in the first half of 2021. The automaker sold more than 306,700 vehicles in Greater China, up 24% year-over-year. ( https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedi ... ver%2Dyear. )

So will Ford close its plant in China, risking loss of a super lucrative market to shift to India? For what?

Having said that there is an obvious opportunity for us here, provided we make something of it, for a change.

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Postby Manish_P » 16 Sep 2021 09:42

Lohit wrote:
...Indeed China is in the process of instituting and enforcing some very deep societal reforms/changes -

Reversing the one child rule and paying families that have more kids as well as extending paid parental leave to 12 months

...

Revising education curriculum to curb feminization of boys and making them more "masculine and warrior-like" as well as ensuring girls are molded to be more motherly and feminine, focused on raising families

... And like all things that the CCP does, they are doing it clinically and thoroughly.


Precisely. Please do consider doing an indepth analytical essay on the deep societal structural changes being formulated and implemented by the Chinese communist leaders on their population and their possible impacts on the 4-5 different power centers in the world which will be present at the time (one of them being Bharat), when these changes begin to start showing measurable effects on the economy, the policies, even the thought process/ opinions of the common citizens of the affected populations (like the rise of the US post WW2 had on the aspirations of Indians, even say the rise of MUTUs within us :wink: ).

When you do get some time, of course.. :)

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby chetak » 16 Sep 2021 09:47

Lohit wrote:
chetak wrote:there is always a catch with these guys.......

and what do they want in return, is it over the horizon targeting.....




Good to see Gadkari building pressure on the US. Although to be honest I don't see this happening.

For instance, will we see the US asking Ford to close its plants in China and shift them to India? When the Indian market's woeful performance forced Ford to close its operations in India.

While at the same time - July 9, 2021 – Ford Motor Company continued to deliver growth in segments critical to its Ford+ plan in the first half of 2021. The automaker sold more than 306,700 vehicles in Greater China, up 24% year-over-year. ( https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedi ... ver%2Dyear. )

So will Ford close its plant in China, risking loss of a super lucrative market to shift to India? For what?

Having said that there is an obvious opportunity for us here, provided we make something of it, for a change.


ford has been shutting down its plants all over the world, not only in India.

In India, the sales of almost all other car companies have done fairly well, given the circumstances, but not ford. They seem to have no idea of product mix and the preferences of Indian customers. Their stale products have stagnated over the years, whereas maruti does very nimble marketing and has the right product mix for India

For instance, they could have scaled down their mustang and put it in the same bracket as the merc, audi A4, and BMW 3 series. I drove a mustang in the UK the last time I was there and it is a stunner

In last 2 years, Ford has shut 3 factories in Russia & left the Russian car market.

Ford has fired 20% of its workers in Europe & shut 6 factories in Europe.

and in India, it went from accumulated losses of ₹1,764 crore in 2014 to ₹14,802 crore in 2021, and it's going to shut down its car assembly plants in Sanand in Gujarat and Chennai in Tamil Nadu.

and knowing the amerikis, they will probably sell their plants in India to the chinese.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby chetak » 16 Sep 2021 10:09

this milley guy deserves to be kicked out forthwith and cashiered without a pension.

This guy is disloyal to his country, his troops and a namak haram, and a traitor and no one gives a rats for his personal opinion and jail is the only place for him

he has subverted the entire command structure of the US and usurped the authority of the elected civilian govt

His competence was seen by all the world during the afghan withdrawal

cant have a criminally confused chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff who is a woke people pleaser and puts his own soldiers in harm's way and secretly talks to the enemy behind the president's back


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyogMonJAm8


General Milley must be removed immediately, then court-martialed | Eric Bolling The Balance



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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby nandakumar » 16 Sep 2021 12:06

Pratyush wrote:Nandkumar,

1) The non compliance Trump's ordered withdrawal from multiple unauthorised battlefields in Africa and Asia.
2) the Afghan withdrawal muck up.
3) the general wokeness.
4) so called white rage comment on politics.
5) the call to PRC regarding advanced warning to them in case of any attack' by United States.

If it was not done to Trump, he would have been relieved of his position at the first offence.

Thanks. I suppose the call to PRC without express authorization by the Secretary Defence or NSA, leave alone the President, is the crowning achievement of a general decay in the body politic of the US. More frightening is the prospect that perhaps no one is truly in charge.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby chetak » 16 Sep 2021 12:19

nandakumar wrote:
Pratyush wrote:Nandkumar,

1) The non compliance Trump's ordered withdrawal from multiple unauthorised battlefields in Africa and Asia.
2) the Afghan withdrawal muck up.
3) the general wokeness.
4) so called white rage comment on politics.
5) the call to PRC regarding advanced warning to them in case of any attack' by United States.

If it was not done to Trump, he would have been relieved of his position at the first offence.

Thanks. I suppose the call to PRC without express authorization by the Secretary Defence or NSA, leave alone the President, is the crowning achievement of a general decay in the body politic of the US. More frightening is the prospect that perhaps no one is truly in charge.


this is exactly what the people behind bye-den and mylapore maami wanted, the complete hollowing out of the ameriki body politic and a new commie order to rise from the wreckage

the worst of the desert cult and commie characteristics will dominate to bring about their desired new world order

they have gradually alienated the jews and have now started to do the same to the Hindus.


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