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Sanskrit was the first language.

Secondly, Sanskrit is a built-up language, not a derived one. The script is thought through and built.

Never heard of Sanskrit and any Russian set of languages, nor any associations. No idea how Sanskrit can be associated with any other languages.

BTW, when foreign university talk about Sanskrit, they are referring to gramer and at times historic relevance - stories, etc. While in India Sanskrit is strictly (in serious places) in relation to thought progression, etc. Serious stuff that a Westerner is not prepared for. Indian culture rarely discriminates between variuos aspects of life, unlike the West and therefore language is THE basis.
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However, the fascination for Sanskrit is mainly because of the high similarities between Sanskrit and German. If you know one, it is rather easy to pick up the other.
Not true IMHO. Most of the languages are derived from Sanskrit but that does not mean you can learn them easily. Once the written form emerged, the languages split wider and wider.
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NRao wrote: However, the fascination for Sanskrit is mainly because of the high similarities between Sanskrit and German. If you know one, it is rather easy to pick up the other.
I always had trouble with learning Sanskrit. Memorizing shabdarupa and dhaturupa. Time consuming and boring. Then I went to Germany and learnt German. Now I can open any Sanskrit text and understand it perfectly.
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Soror Interview: EU on the verge of collapse
Schmitz: What are those principles?

Soros: I have always looked at the EU as the embodiment of the principles of the open society. A quarter of a century ago, when I first became involved in the region, you had a moribund Soviet Union and an emerging European Union. And interestingly, both were adventures in international governance. The Soviet Union tried to unite proletarians of the world, and the EU tried to develop a model of regional integration based on the principles of an open society.

Schmitz: How does that compare with today?

Soros: The Soviet Union has been replaced by a resurgent Russia and the European Union has come to be dominated by the forces of nationalism. The open society that both Merkel and I believe in because of our personal histories, and that the reformers of the new Ukraine want to join because of their personal histories, does not really exist. The European Union was meant to be a voluntary association of equals but the euro crisis turned it into a relationship between debtors and creditors where the debtors have difficulties in meeting their obligations and the creditors set the conditions that the debtors have to meet. That relationship is neither voluntary nor equal. The migration crisis introduced other fissures. Therefore, the very survival of the EU is at risk.

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Schmitz: Could you make your paradox a little clearer? Why would your plan prevent refugees from flooding Europe?

Soros: We advocate a common European asylum policy that would reassert control over the European rather than national borders and allow asylum seekers to reach Europe in a safe, orderly way, and at a pace that reflects the EU’s capacity to absorb them. Orbán advocates using the national borders to keep out migrants.

Schmitz: And who is winning the conflict?

Soros: In Hungary, he has won hands down. More disturbingly, he is also winning in Europe. He is challenging Merkel for the leadership of Europe. He launched his campaign at the party conference in September 2015 of the Christian Social Union of Bavaria (the sister party of Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union) and he did so in cahoots with Horst Seehofer, the German party chairman. And it is a very real challenge. It attacks the values and principles on which the European Union was founded. Orbán attacks them from the inside; Putin from the outside. Both of them are trying to reverse the subordination of national sovereignty to a supranational, European order.
Don't know what Soros is blithering on about "keeping islamists out of eU attacks the values and principles on EU was founded". No wonder he seems a little surprised about the Orban's message gaining popularity and challenging Merkel.
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There's a lot of butthurt among whites on the "suicide of europe" and "white genocide" and blaming jews, reptilians, illuminati, santa claus, tom and jerry, so on and so forth. Quite hilarious I must say, if some non-european/non-white country was being invaded by a horde of islamics, these same empathetic whites would be running around with their cameras and recorders to show the plight of poor migrants spinning it into some obscure bs about humanity and human rights.

Pro refugees, anti refugees, pro racism, anti racism, pro fascism or anti fascism. The entire worldview of europeans and whites is limited to their little euroland and NA. I don't see why I should feel bad for them. it's kinda like getting a taste of their own medicine. Their own retarded smug "civilization" biting them in the ass. The colonial loot and fame acquired with it only lasts for so long.

Just winning a lottery of millions is not enough, one must also know how to take care of the money and invest it. When the going was good, most of em whored around and went on adventures to spread democracy. Now that things are getting tough, the good ol racism is making a comeback. Lots of salty whites whining on all forums in the west. The superior race with it's individualism and high iq and tight assedness, can't help being manipulated by jews and immigrunts, those evil evil meanies ;(

The civilized thugs are gonna riot again, would be interesting to see what they do.
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/f ... ks-outrage
Polish magazine's 'Islamic rape of Europe' cover sparks outrage
Some Twitter users compare image in wSieci, for article referring to Cologne sex assaults, to Nazi propaganda

Cover of this wee’s edition of wSieci, headlined “The Islamic rape of Europe”.
Harriet Sherwood Religion correspondent
Thursday 18 February 2016

A Polish magazine has published a highly inflammatory front cover showing a white woman being assaulted by three pairs of dark-skinned male hands under the headline “The Islamic rape of Europe”.

The cover of this week’s edition of wSieci (the Network), a mass-market politically conservative magazine, triggered outraged responses on social media. Some Twitter users compared the image to Nazi propaganda.

The magazine cover depicts a blonde woman draped in a European Union flag. Male hands are grabbing at her hair and arms and apparently about to tear off the flag. The magazine blurb promises “a report about what the media and Brussels elite are hiding from the citizens of the European Union”.

Inside, the article refers to the rape and sexual assault of hundreds of women in the German city of Cologne on New Year’s Eve. Most of those arrested in connection with the attacks were recent migrants from north Africa.

“The people of old Europe after the events of New Year’s Eve in Cologne painfully realised the problems arising from the massive influx of immigrants,” wrote the report’s author, Aleksandra Rybińska.

“The first signs that things were going wrong, however, were there a lot earlier. They were still ignored or were minimised in significance in the name of tolerance and political correctness.”

This week’s edition of the magazine also carries articles headlined “Does Europe Want to Commit Suicide?” and “The Hell of Europe”.

Tensions rise in Germany over handling of mass sexual assaults in Cologne

More than 1,000 complaints were filed in Cologne, almost half of which were of a sexual nature, in the aftermath of New Year’s Eve. The attacks were a key factor in an anti-migrant backlash in Germany, which has accepted hundreds of thousands of refugees in recent months.

Accounts of the Cologne attacks encouraged women in other European cities to come forward with similar accounts of sexual attacks.

The Polish government has resisted EU efforts to persuade it to increase the number of migrants it is prepared to accept. In November, the prime minister, Beata Szydło, rejected an EU quota of 4,500 refugees, citing last year’s terrorist attacks in Paris, carried out by Islamic extremists. “After Paris, the situation has changed,” she said.
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No deal yet on EU-UK talks.http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... .html[list][/list]
EU negotiations
David Cameron meets with Donald Tusk and Jean-Claude Juncker Getty Images

David Cameron has returned to negotiations over Britain’s membership of the EU after yesterday's talks ended at 5am this morning. Here are the latest updates:
•The two-day summit ends today but a quick agreement looked unlikely after talks through the night
•France and Belgium want a 'take it or leave' deal
•What effect will the negotiations have on you?
•Mr Cameron was told his benefits plan is unacceptable
•The European Parliament says the deal won't be binding
•What other European countries think of the UK's plan
•Boris Johnson isn't convinced by the PM's proposal
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Boris Johnson,Mayor of London and "enfant terrible" of the Tory party,has finally nailed his his colours to the mast,that of Brexit. A long time rival-in-waiting for the Moron-of-Cam to stumble,"BoJo" as he is popularly known by faithful fans,has at last set his bicycle on a path diametrically opposite to that of to CaMoron,partly in the hope of replacing him in the time to come and lead the Conservatives with his glad eye on the PM's seat.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... -live.html
EU referendum: David Cameron faces MPs after Boris Johnson backs Brexit - live
David Cameron faces MPs as he sets out his EU deal hours after Boris Johnson defies him by backing Leave campaign - latest updates
Boris Johnson attacks David Cameron's 'wildly exaggerated' Brexit fears

Boris Johnson has claimed that fears over the economic impact of a British exit from the EU have been "wildly exaggerated" as he hit out at "scaremongering" by supporters of a vote to retain ties with Brussels.

The London Mayor ended weeks of speculation on Sunday by announcing his support for a vote to leave the European Union despite a plea by David Cameron to join him in supporting the campaign to remain in the 28-member bloc.

Mr Johnson dismissed the arguments made against Brexit by people who "don't think Britain could stand on our own two feet".

He said the Prime Minister had warned that a vote to leave would be a "leap into the dark" but Mr Johnson dismissed the warnings about the impact on the City.

At Mayor's question time, he told London Assembly Members: "I genuinely think those fears are wildly exaggerated. Those are the arguments that we have heard time and time again - we heard it before, I remember hearing it in 2008 when the financial markets crashed, everybody said that the banks were all going to leave London.

"I remember vividly hearing it in the run-up to the decision of whether or not we go into the euro - people said that if we didn't join the euro, they said that Throgmorton Street would crack and yaw and great mutant rats would gnaw the faces of the last bankers and all this sort of nonsense. It didn't turn out to be true, on the contrary the City of London is overwhelmingly the preponderant financial centre here in this part of the world, indeed it is the biggest on earth.

"It has a conglomeration of skills and a huge, huge range of talents that I don't think would be jeopardised at all."

File photo dated 02 June 2014. The Mayor of London Boris Johnson speaks to the conference Policing Global Cities: Gangs Summit at City Hall in LondonBoris Johnson Photo: STEFAN ROUSSEAU/PA

Mr Johnson said: "In any case like this there will always be people who say we should stick with the status quo. But the trouble with the status quo is that it is formidably bureaucratic, it is producing more and more legislation over which neither our parliament nor any parliament in Europe has any control."

He told City Hall that Brussels' reach had extended "into areas that we never dreamed of when we joined in 1972".

Mr Johnson said: "I think there will be arguments both ways and you will certainly hear, in the next few months, all sorts of people scaremongering and you will hear people saying that we can't survive outside Europe."

Dismissing the "Anglo-scepticism" of the argument, he said: "There are people who don't think Britain could stand on our own two feet, and all the rest of it. I have to say I think that is profoundly wrong. I think that the people who make these arguments are the same as the people who warned that we shouldn't leave the ERM, which turned out to be the salvation of the UK economy; and they are the same as the people who said that we had to join the euro, which turned out to be a catastrophic mistake and a very unfortunate enterprise.

David Cameron on the Andrew Marr Show Photo: BBC

"I am inclined to take those views with a pinch of salt. I hear all sorts of prognostications from the City, I read plenty of people who think actually that the British economy could prosper outside the European Union, and not just the British economy but London and the City of London too."

Labour leader in the assembly Len Duvall pointed out that business organisation London First had warned that a Brexit would "cost the capital £13.9 billion a year and 75,000 jobs to the London economy by 2030" and HSBC was prepared to move 1,000 jobs to Paris if the UK voted to leave.
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Boris: Why Britain should say no to EU

Boris Johnson today says that Britain has a “once in a lifetime opportunity” to vote to leave the European Union as a way of securing an entirely new relationship with Brussels based around the single market.

Writing in The Daily Telegraph, Mr Johnson calls for Britain to be “brave” and says that “there is only one way to get the change we need – and that is to vote to go”.

He says that “EU history shows that they only really listen to a population when it says No”.

“EU history shows that they only really listen to a population when it says No”
Boris Johnson

Unlike some of those backing a “Brexit”, Mr Johnson raises the possibility that Britain may not ultimately leave the EU in the event of a “Leave” vote.

He calls for Britain to have a deep and co-operative relationship with the EU “on the lines originally proposed by Winston Churchill: interested, associated, but not absorbed; with Europe – but not comprised”.

His decision will electrify the referendum campaign and came as a major blow to David Cameron just one day after the Prime Minister called the June 23 vote.

It sets the stage for a leadership campaign that looks likely to see Mr Johnson face off against George Osborne, the Chancellor, for the chance to succeed Mr Cameron when he steps down.

“This is a once in a lifetime chance to vote for real change in Britain’s relations with Europe,” Mr Johnson adds. “This is the only opportunity we will ever have to show that we care about self-rule. A vote to Remain will be taken in Brussels as a green light for more federalism, and for the erosion of democracy”
Boris Johnson

Mr Johnson only informed the Prime Minister of his final decision by text message nine minutes before making a public address declaring that he would back a “Brexit”.

It is understood that he was swayed during talks last week with Michael Gove, the Justice Secretary, who is also backing the campaign to leave the EU.

Mr Johnson and Mr Gove are already being described by insiders as a new axis of power in the Conservative Party to rival Mr Cameron and Mr Osborne.

The two senior Tories are joined by five other Cabinet ministers in backing the out campaign. In the end, it is now expected that 13 junior ministers will back a “Brexit” alongside around 150 Tory MPs.

“This is a once in a lifetime chance to vote for real change in Britain’s relations with Europe,” Mr Johnson adds. “This is the only opportunity we will ever have to show that we care about self-rule. A vote to Remain will be taken in Brussels as a green light for more federalism, and for the erosion of democracy.”

He says that it time “to seek a new relationship, in which we manage to extricate ourselves from most of the supranational elements”.

And he rejects claims made by Mr Cameron and his Cabinet allies about the “risks” of a “Brexit”.

Mr Johnson writes: “We will hear a lot in the coming weeks about the risks of this option; the risk to the economy, the risk to the City of London, and so on; and though those risks cannot be entirely dismissed I think they are likely to be exaggerated. We have heard this kind of thing before, about the decision to opt out of the euro, and the very opposite turned out to be the case.”

In a major blow to Mr Cameron, the Mayor of London rubbished the Prime Minister’s claims that his renegotiated settlement with Brussels has achieved “fundamental reform” of the EU.

In his Telegraph article, Mr Johnson suggests that because of the EU’s influence, Mr Cameron and other politicians are “impotent” on key issues like immigration.

“Sometimes the public can see all too plainly the impotence of their own elected politicians – as with immigration,” Mr Johnson writes.

“That enrages them; not so much the numbers as the lack of control. That is what we mean by loss of sovereignty – the inability of people to kick out, at elections, the men and women who control their lives. We are seeing an alienation of the people from the power they should hold, and I am sure this is contributing to the sense of disengagement, the apathy, the view that politicians are “all the same” and can change nothing, and to the rise of extremist parties.”

Boris Johnson writes in The Daily TelegraphBoris Johnson writes in The Daily Telegraph

He warns that the European “project has morphed and grown in such a way as to be unrecognisable” and makes clear that there is “nothing necessarily anti-European or xenophobic in wanting to vote Leave on June 23”.

Mr Johnson says that the influence of European courts on British life is “unstoppable and it is irreversible”.

“That is why EU law is likened to a ratchet, clicking only forwards,” he writes. “We are seeing a slow and invisible process of legal colonisation, as the EU infiltrates just about every area of public policy. Then – and this is the key point – the EU acquires supremacy in any field that it touches; because it is one of the planks of Britain’s membership, agreed in 1972, that any question involving the EU must go to Luxembourg, to be adjudicated by the European Court of Justice.”

Mr Johnson writes that the Prime Minister “has done his very best” over the course of his renegotiation and praises his bid to reassert the sovereignty of the British Parliament with a new Bill to be brought forward in the coming days.

However, he says the Prime Minister’s reforms “cannot stop the machine; at best it can put a temporary and occasional spoke in the ratchet”.

Calling for voters to be unafraid of a UK outside the EU, Mr Johnson writes: “If the ‘Leave’ side wins, it will indeed be necessary to negotiate a large number of trade deals at great speed. But why should that be impossible? We have become so used to Nanny in Brussels that we have become infantilised, incapable of imagining an independent future.”

Allies of the Prime Minister were last night furious at Mr Johnson’s decision to back the “Leave” campaign.

They accused him of making the announcement as part of a “calculated leadership bid” – an accusation that Mr Johnson yesterday rejected.

According to well-placed sources, Mr Johnson had given the Prime Minister his personal assurance just weeks ago that he intended to back the “In” campaign.

It is now expected that following Mr Johnson’s declaration, wealthy donors will swing behind the “Leave” campaign and pour resources into the bid to take Britain out of the EU.

Mr Johnson yesterday said he will not play a prominent role in the campaign and will not debate against Conservatives backing the “In” campaign.

Lord Heseltine, the former deputy prime minister, last night released a statement attacking Mr Johnson.

He said: “If he were to be successful in his ambition to cut us off from Europe, the flags would fly in Frankfurt and Paris in his honour.

"At a stroke, he would have blown away the safeguards for our financial services industry that the Prime Minister has just secured.

"That is to risk countless jobs across our country from Edinburgh in the north to Bournemouth in the south and, of course, London itself."

The statement was released by the Britain Stronger in Europe campaign and echoed Mr Cameron’s claims that a “Brexit” would be a “leap in the dark”, risking accusations of a smear campaign against the Mr Johnson.
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The thing is, school grades in Sweden have been slipping for some time now. But it was not clear where would 'Liberal' thing be going in Sweden.
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The most wanted fugitive from November's Paris attacks has been "caught alive" after being wounded in a Brussels shootout, say police.

http://news.sky.com/story/1662599/paris ... ught-alive
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Prussels-bakistani connexion in 3...2...1.... or is it seeriyans now?
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http://www.defencenews.in/article/Italy ... -MTCR-4043
Italy stalls India's recognition as a Global Military Power ; keeps it away from MTCR
Italy is hell bent to to continue to veto against India's entry into the elite Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR). This club accounts for 34 member states that can access top-end technology from missiles and UAV's.The European Union shares Italy's concerns and expects India to free the two Marines at the earliest while India expect due justice for the families of the two Indian fishermen. This dispute has been going on since 2012 and a solution to this is no where in sight.Italy was the only country to have objected to India's entry into the MTCR while all other 33 member states unanimously agreed to include India. Italy has effectively used the rule that all new members should be approved unanimously by the 34 member group.America has been a strong supporter to India's cause but its options are limited since things have been extremely complicated between India and Italy.Italy knows how important it is for India to become a member of the MTCR and it is effectively using its veto power to blackmail India for the release of its Marines.The US has urged India to change its outlook on the case and release the Marines for the sake of a larger motive.India has insisted on taking up the matter of the shooting as a criminal case and not as direct Govt level talks. The marines were doing their duty under the authority of the Italian government.If India let Girone go home, Italy will accept India into the MTCR.This will still leave decisions to be made by the Arbitration Panel but the case would go on for years. It is now up to India to decide to either continue to hold up the marine and seek justice or soften its stance to achieve a Global Power status.
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Italy knows how important it is for India to become a member of the MTCR
And why exactly?
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Even if India releases the Italian Marines, the US and EU will then deny Indian entry through the Chinese Veto. There is no way China will agree to India becoming member of MTCR.

The best way to enter the MTCR is to let EU and China know that India is considering sale of Agni 1 and Agni 2 to some countries.
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Vipul wrote:Even if India releases the Italian Marines, the US and EU will then deny Indian entry through the Chinese Veto. There is no way China will agree to India becoming member of MTCR.

The best way to enter the MTCR is to let EU and China know that India is considering sale of Agni 1 and Agni 2 to some countries.
what the advantages of entering MTCR. What if India don't enter and what are the losses?
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The best way to enter the MTCR is to let EU and China know that India is considering sale of Agni 1 and Agni 2 to some countries.
This should happen even after signing MTCR, considering blackmarket of nukes in Pakistan or facilities to provide delivery platform. Itna to bantaa he. Let these people invent vocabularies (which they would) to justify ignorance/support of the same for Pakistan on one hand and protesting sale of delivery platform (no nukes, no ICBM range) on another.

Anyone keeping eye on how a single social issue of immigration affecting EU (Brexit hungama, Turkey pushing back Syrians (and others?) in Syria) etc.
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Italy has issues with India unrelated to MTCR as well. They have consistently opposed India's case for a UNSC permanent seat. I simply have no idea why we continue to do business with them: we buy a lot of defense stuff from them as well as plant and equipment.
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My guess would be that Eye-tally has deep connections with our mil ind complex through MQ, Q-rochi etc.
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Need to shaft the EU so bad that all these third rate powers are shown their place.
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Guess with the madam not in the seat , Italy is making its displeasure known quite well .. or is it madam who might have been doing this like whats happening in the Rajya Sabha ? .. tenuous links and one wonders
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Italy objection thing is just one part, then there is veto part and then the superpower talking about showing leniency - which is not in line with subjudice nature of the case. In fact, no one is even cautioning Italy about blood money paid etc which should be working in our favour.

Basically, the alphabet soup treaties are to extract maximum concessions without giving an inch, and at maximum presenting a normal membership that was unfairly denied in the first place by cartels. The silence on blood money by the cartel, when Indian courts has termed it illegal, shows the hypocrisy while posturing to be normal.
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Here’s why a fleet of trucks drove themselves across Europe
About a dozen trucks just drove themselves across Europe in a self-driving vehicle experiment by Scania and other truck manufacturers.
Applicable to army convoys ...
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Multiple Injuries Reported Following Explosion at Sikh Temple in Germany
16 April 2016

An explosion was reported at the Gurdwara Nanaksar Sikh Temple in Essen, Germany, on April 16. According to eyewitness accounts, a masked assailant threw an explosive device into the temple. Several injuries were reported. The footage here was shared by Sikh Channel, who said children at the gurdwara were rehearsing for celebrations due to take place the following week around the Sikh festival Vaisakhi.

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Jhujar wrote:http://www.defencenews.in/article/Italy ... -MTCR-4043
Italy stalls India's recognition as a Global Military Power ; keeps it away from MTCR
Italy is hell bent to to continue to veto against India's entry into the elite Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR).
An irrelevant sidekick to Nazi Germany would now stall India lol :mrgreen:

What's the difference between jihadis and these retards if they hold people and countries to release their favorite killers in return? Maybe kicking out the archbishops and other missionary cartoons back to italy would give them the message. The trigger happy morons deserve to rot for their entire pathetic lives in jail. Don't like it? Don't kill innocents and don't enter territories you don't belong in.
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India-Italy dispute in World Court

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/italy-mu ... rt-1402267

Do u notice that since this event showing what these trigger-happy mercenaries were really doing, there has been virtually no report of Somali Pirates, hain?
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AOA! Bakistan takes over Mayor Bosition of Londonistan!
Londonistanis voted in Khan, 45, as the first Muslim mayor of a major Western capital city. He will take office in a metropolis where his fellow Muslims comprise about 12% of the population.
His victory followed an unusually bitter campaign against Conservative candidate Zac Goldsmith, the son of a billionaire, in which race and religion have proven ugly flashpoints.
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Europe Beckons - Business Line
India and the EU are considering the resumption of free trade agreement talks which began about nine years ago but were stalled in 2013. On the face of it, the trade ties are skewed in the EU’s favour: India accounts for just over 2 per cent of the EU’s exports and imports, respectively, while the EU accounts for over a fifth of India’s external trade and, as a bloc, is its largest trading partner. But this does not necessarily imply that the EU holds all the aces. It is battling economic stagnation, whereas India is the fastest growing economy with a large, dynamic market that beckons. This perhaps explains why the EU is sending out feelers, even if tentative, that it is willing to be a bit flexible in trade and investment talks. Both sides should reboot and adopt a formula of give and take.

The EU should understand that India cannot altogether depart from the Doha Round mandate on agriculture (protecting poor farmers) and intellectual property (access to cheap medicine). But India too can come up with an innovative, positive approach. It has already eased FDI caps in insurance, banking and telecom, sectors in which the EU has a strong global presence. More recently, it has ratified the trade facilitation pact, which will ease up its onerous import-export formalities and reduce costs. However, it cannot be expected to alter government procurement norms (a ‘WTO-plus’ item) overnight — a demand of the EU — and put small industry to disadvantage.

There are other areas where India can yield ground. Tariffs on EU wines and spirits are way too high. Legal and accountancy services can be thrown open to global competition. The shackles can be removed on e-commerce, multi-brand retail and higher education. It appears that India is using these as a bargaining chip to secure freer movement of IT professionals. However, the influx of largely literate migrants in the EU may have narrowed the window of opportunity for India. It is worth considering whether a more flexible approach in services helps India secure market access for its agriculture, fisheries, pharma and textiles. The livelihood implications of lowering tariffs in certain sectors such as auto components should be considered. At the heart of India’s trade negotiations lies a dilemma. With a GDP of over $2 trillion, it is unable to convincingly defend its livelihood concerns. One of the most challenging tasks before the Centre is to open up the economy and seek market access on its terms, in a world that is turning its back on the WTO.
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Nice 2014 vedio of EU tech achievements and future trajectories.
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India wary of EU seizing drug shipments under new law - Amit Sen, Business Line
Alarmed by a new European Union trademark law passed without incorporating any of the changes it had suggested, India is weighing its options, in the event the EU confiscates Indian pharmaceutical consignments in transit to third countries.

“We will not hesitate to approach the World Trade Organization,” a Commerce Ministry official told BusinessLine. “We are pursuing the matter bilaterally as we don’t want uncertainty.” The EU is ready to discuss the issue with India as part of a broader dialogue on Intellectual Property Rights {That is clearly an attempt to delay the process. India must approach WTO asap because our pharma industry will be impacted big time or we must find non-European routes for transshipment as we have no direct shipping lines from India to Latin America}, the official added.

Stringent provisions

The new trademark legislation has stringent enforcement provisions that allow customs officials to seize foreign consignments en route to third countries if they contain items with brand names or logos similar to those registered as trademarks in the 28-member bloc.

“We had told EU officials earlier this year that they should not bring goods in transit under the purview of the trademark legislation,” the official said.

India’s arguments are based on the fact that trademark laws are applied territorially. “Trademark violation happens when the trademark holder’s rights are affected vis-à-vis a territory or its consumers. If an item is only in transit and has not been released in the EU market, it should not be seized for possible violation,” the official explained.
Manufacturers in India may not be aware of the trademarks existing in the EU.

New Delhi also fears that as had happened in 2008, the new law could be used to seize cheap generics (copied versions of off-patent drugs) from India headed to markets in Latin America and Africa, as large pharma companies, many based in the EU, feel threatened by the cheap but high-quality medicines.
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The above is nothing but US hand. Since such a step can only make EU a less preferred transport route, in the long term.
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"Ein Volk,ein Reich,ein Fuhrer..." History repeating itself? Yes, says Boris Johnson,enfant terrible of the Tory party and Brexit champion.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05 ... itler-did/
Boris Johnson: The EU wants a superstate, just as Hitler did

Boris Johnson does not deny his stance on the EU is preparation for a Tory leadership Credit: Andrew Parsons for The Telegraph

By Tim Ross, Senior Political Correspondent
14 May 2016

The European Union is pursuing a similar goal to Hitler in trying to create a powerful superstate, Boris Johnson says.

In a dramatic interview with the Telegraph, he warns that while bureaucrats in Brussels are using “different methods” from the Nazi dictator, they share the aim of unifying Europe under one “authority”.

But the EU’s “disastrous” failures have fuelled tensions between member states and allowed Germany to grow in power, “take over” the Italian economy and “destroy” Greece, he warns.

““Napoleon, Hitler, various people tried this out, and it ends tragically. The EU is an attempt to do this by different methods."”
Boris Johnson

Mr Johnson invokes Winston Churchill’s war-time defiance, urging the British people to be “the heroes of Europe” again, set the country free and save the EU from itself by voting to leave in the referendum next month.

The former mayor of London, who is a keen classical scholar, argues that the past 2,000 years of European history have been characterised by repeated attempts to unify Europe under a single government in order to recover the continent’s lost “golden age” under the Romans.

Mr Johnson warns that bureaucrats in Brussels want to unify Europe under one “authority” Credit: Andrew Parsons for The Telegraph

“Napoleon, Hitler, various people tried this out, and it ends tragically,” he says.
“The EU is an attempt to do this by different methods.


“But fundamentally what is lacking is the eternal problem, which is that there is no underlying loyalty to the idea of Europe. There is no single authority that anybody respects or understands. That is causing this massive democratic void.”

Mr Johnson’s potentially inflammatory comparison to Hitler comes at a critical time in the referendum campaign, with senior Tories on either side publicly attacking each other in blunt terms.

In the interview, the MP for Uxbridge and South Ruislip, who is a favourite to be the next Conservative leader:

Fuels speculation over his own ambitions by setting out his own “Tory mission” for how to win future general elections. He warns that the Conservatives cannot simply talk about “aspiration and opportunity” while forgetting the poor, in a coded rebuke to George Osborne;
 Piles pressure on David Cameron by challenging him to a face-to-face television debate, saying such a clash is crucial for the democratic process;
Accuses the Prime Minister of being “rash” and undermining Nato by claiming that the EU is the guarantor of peace in Europe and that Brexit could lead to war;
Insists that he is still “friends” with Mr Cameron even though senior Tories are “knocking seven bells out of each other” like rugby players in the middle of a brutal match.

Mr Johnson was speaking as the referendum battle entered its most intense final six weeks.

With polls suggesting the contest is close, leaders of all the main political parties put aside their differences to join the Remain campaign in favour of continuing EU membership.

““I am absolutely convinced that our economic security will be better if we stay in a reformed European Union and it will be seriously at risk if we were to leave."”
David Cameron

In what Downing Street sources described as an “unprecedented” moment, the leaders of the Conservative, Labour, Liberal Democrat and Green parties all attended some of the 1,000 Remain campaign events held across Britain on Saturday.

A Labour battle bus took to the streets to campaign for Remain, while the Prime Minister unveiled a new poster in his Oxfordshire constituency of Witney.

Mr Cameron warned that a vote to leave the EU in the poll on June 23 would deliver an “immediate and sustained hit” to the economy that could tip Britain back into recession.

“I am absolutely convinced that our economic security will be better if we stay in a reformed European Union and it will be seriously at risk if we were to leave,” he told a small crowd of supporters.

“If we vote to leave on June 23 we will be voting for higher prices, we will be voting for fewer jobs, we will be voting for lower growth, we will be voting potentially for a recession. That is the last thing our economy needs.”

The Prime Minister’s Remain campaign will escalate its warnings of the economic costs of a vote for Brexit this week with a series of further high profile interventions.

In an article for the Telegraph website, Sajid Javid, the Business Secretary, explains why as a lifelong critic of Brussels he converted to join the Remain campaign.

“I am a Eurosceptic and proud of it,” Mr Javid writes.

But even Margaret Thatcher was in favour of Britain remaining in the European single market, and “campaigned enthusiastically” to create it, he says.

Mr Javid argues: “It gives every business in Britain access to 500 million customers with no barriers, no tariffs and no local legislation to worry about.”

Yesterday, Mr Johnson travelled to Bristol, as Vote Leave staged 300 events around the UK. In his interview, he suggests that the economic benefits of EU membership have been exaggerated, when in fact the euro has fuelled tensions between member states.

Boris Johnson on his family farm in the Exmoor National Park in Devon

“The Italians, who used to be a great motor-manufacturing power, have been absolutely destroyed by the euro – as was intended by the Germans,” Mr Johnson claims.

“The euro has become a means by which superior German productivity is able to gain an absolutely unbeatable advantage over the whole eurozone.” He adds: “This is a chance for the British people to be the heroes of Europe and to act as a voice of moderation and common sense, and to stop something getting in my view out of control.”

Meanwhile, the Vote Leave campaign published research suggesting that the single market had failed Britain. Official EU statistics show that over the last decade, the value of British exports of goods to the EU has fallen by 18 per cent. The campaign claims that this is a worse performance than every member state other than Luxembourg.
By contrast, German exports of goods during the same period rose by 78.9 per cent.

In an echo of Sir John Major’s soapbox campaigning, Mr Cameron stood on a pallet to deliver his speech after unveiling a new poster. The poster showed an envelope on a doormat and warned that leaving the EU would cost “£4,300 for every household”.

Mr Cameron said European funding would be cut for vital infrastructure projects “across every region of the UK” after a Brexit vote.
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What did the Fuhrer say during the last days of the war? "Germany will rise up ,be strong and lead Europe again 50 years from now"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05 ... ing-fired/
The Fourth Reich is here - without a shot being fired

By Simon Heffer
15 May 2016
David Cameron and Angela Merkel
Chancellor Merkel has ensured her country prospers while others suffer Credit:

The arsenal of fear must almost be nearly exhausted. Those daring to vote to leave the EU will inflict on Britain collapsing house prices (according to George Osborne and Christine Lagarde of the IMF, who should worry about the EU’s unemployment-soaked economies); a “technical” recession (Mark Carney, a “technical” Irish-Canadian with a long record of error, who for this disgraceful political interference should be kicked back to Ottawa); and, of course, the Third World War (Mr Cameron). It’s clearly a Corporal Jones moment for the Remainers, though any cries of “don’t panic” come far too late: they are manifestly drowning in it.

Anyway, two can play at this game. What must we fear if we stay? Not merely relentless uncontrolled immigration (and the lies told about it), putting such burdens on our schools, hospitals and infrastructure that UK citizens suffer, but the inevitability of our nation’s destiny being increasingly subject to the wishes of foreigners whom we don’t elect. I am not talking about the amorphous idea of “Brussels”: I’m talking about Germany.

Five years ago I wrote a piece referring to the control Angela Merkel exerted over Europe as “the Fourth Reich”. I was accused of a horrible breach of taste. However, when one looks at German power today one realises that, when I wrote, she had hardly even started. The key to German success is this: it participates in a weak currency (whose value would collapse without it) enabling its exports to sell far more cheaply than had it retained the Deutschmark. Therefore, it continues to grow in economic strength relative to its partners – including us – but especially those in the eurozone, notably France and Italy, who would benefit greatly from restoring the Franc and the Lira.

Any net exporter in the EU – which we are most certainly not, given our £24bn trade gap with our partners in the first three months of 2016 – also benefits hugely from the vast and incomprehensible welter of EU regulations on products and employment law, which keep external competitors at arm’s length and pile costs on them if they wish access to the single market. Germany is so rich, and getting richer at the expense not least of its partners, that it can afford to pretend globalisation isn’t happening. We are not so fortunate, and leaving the EU to avoid all these regulations and take proper advantage of the wider world is not the least reason why we must vote to get out.

If we stay in we are going to suffer immense collateral damage from two crises that the Germans will precipitate. First, there will be one in the eurozone. My friend Dr Savvas Savouri, chief economist at the leading investment business Toscafund, predicts a “detonation of devaluations around the periphery of the eurozone” in his latest briefing to clients. So incapable are non-eurozone countries such as Hungary, Romania or Poland of competing with the German-dictated economic model that devaluation and the instability that will bring are their only options. So anyone who thinks our staying in the EU is like buying a ticket to a place of permanent prosperity wants his or her head examined.

Worse for Britain, Dr Savouri predicts Germany’s economy “will not come off lightly”, not least because its clients and customers will find its goods suddenly more expensive. And when Germany starts to struggle, God help the rest of the EU: because when the German chequebook closes, economies it is shoring up – such as Greece’s – will be on their own. And Greece’s economy is one-eleventh the size of France’s, which is a basket-case, and cannot go on as it is.

Dr Savouri also points out that if we stay in the EU there will be huge costs for us from all this chaos, despite being out of the eurozone. “Having renewed our vows to remain in the EU 'through sickness and in health’ we will be required to contribute to funding the fiscal efforts being applied to our ever more sickly EU partners,” he writes. The costs will be huge, and once we have committed ourselves to remain we will be forced to join the communal effort to save ailing partners. He calls it “the EU’s version of a Rooseveltian New Deal.”

He also argues that such a wave of economic hardship will propel more impoverished Europeans across open borders into the UK: and don’t forget what Iain Duncan Smith disclosed last week, that Mr Cameron deleted a passage about controlling immigration from a speech he made because he was told it would upset the Germans. That is the reality of our relationship with the EU: if we choose to stay in, the Germans will ensure that we become ever more obedient to their policies – so stand by for their next project, Turkey’s admission to the EU, and all that would entail.

PM: I'm very happy to do live EU debate PM: I'm very happy to do live EU debate

It was not just deeply offensive, but ironic, that Mr Cameron should last week have evoked the idea of another world war in his latest intelligence-insulting act of hysteria aimed at making us vote to stay in the EU. It is not just that our fathers and grandfathers fought in two world wars to allow Britain the right to continue to rule itself, rather than to be ruled by Germans: Mr Cameron plainly won’t admit that German domination of the EU means it has conquered without war, and signing up to the EU is signing up to the Fourth Reich.

Ask the Greeks if you think I exaggerate: Germany runs Europe without firing a shot. It forces far weaker partners to stay in a currency zone that is crippling them, and uses its economic muscle to dictate immigration and other key policies. And if you believe the Germans won’t take a UK vote to stay in as a signal to continue and intensify their control over the EU, and to make us help pay for its baleful effects, then you aren’t paying attention. It’s not war we should fear, but what the Germans do in peace.
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Muppalla wrote:
Vipul wrote:Even if India releases the Italian Marines, the US and EU will then deny Indian entry through the Chinese Veto. There is no way China will agree to India becoming member of MTCR.

The best way to enter the MTCR is to let EU and China know that India is considering sale of Agni 1 and Agni 2 to some countries.
what the advantages of entering MTCR. What if India don't enter and what are the losses?
Let us look at this issue from a different perspective. MCTR, UNSC etc. at the ways with USA exerts its power overtly. Unlike many here, I am of a firm belief that USA does not derive its power from its huge MIC and advanced weaponry. When the patient is gasping for the air, it thrashes out the most. And so is USA. The whole international system is designed by the west, for the west to keep their dominance. MCTR is just another aspect with which they keep this going. As the current dollar international monetary system dies, so die the myriad treaties and institutions (which are children of this system).

We should bide our time and not sign these treaties. I fear Modi will give more than he should just to keep west happy.
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SSridhar wrote:
New Delhi also fears that as had happened in 2008, the new law could be used to seize cheap generics (copied versions of off-patent drugs) from India headed to markets in Latin America and Africa, as large pharma companies, many based in the EU, feel threatened by the cheap but high-quality medicines.
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When an Indian company provided a very helpful anti-AIDS medicine to Africa, it created a huge uproar among Western, particularly European, drug companies. The effort though, was highly appreciated in Africa itself, and successful.
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More UK specific (Not Indo-UK or Indo-EU)

Mohatarma wakes up and smells the coffee
"When you go swimming, it’s much healthier to keep your whole body completely covered, you know.” The Muslim lady behind the counter in my local pharmacy has recently started giving me advice like this. It’s kindly meant and I’m always glad to hear her views because she is one of the few people in west London where I live who talks to me.
The streets around Acton, which has been my home since 1996, have taken on a new identity. Most of the shops are now owned by Muslims and even the fish and chip shop and Indian takeaway are Halal. It seems that almost overnight it’s changed from Acton Vale into Acton Veil.
Of the 8.17 million people in London, one million are Muslim, with the majority of them young families. That is not, in reality, a great number. But because so many Muslims increasingly insist on emphasising their separateness, it feels as if they have taken over; my female neighbours flap past in full niqab, some so heavily veiled that I can’t see their eyes. I’ve made an effort to communicate by smiling deliberately at the ones I thought I was seeing out and about regularly, but this didn’t lead to conversation because they never look me in the face.
I recently went to the plainly named “Curtain Shop” and asked if they would put some up for me. Inside were a lot of elderly Muslim men. I was told that they don’t do that kind of work, and was back on the pavement within a few moments. I felt sure I had suffered discrimination and was bewildered as I had been there previously when the Muslim owners had been very friendly. Things have changed. I am living in a place where I am a stranger.
I was brought up in a village in Staffordshire, and although I have been in London for a quarter of a century I have kept the habit of chatting to shopkeepers and neighbours, despite it not being the done thing in metropolitan life. Nowadays, though, most of the tills in my local shops are manned by young Muslim men who mutter into their mobiles as they are serving. They have no interest in talking to me and rarely meet my gaze. I find this situation dismal. I miss banter, the hail fellow, well met chat about the weather, or what was on TV last night.
suspect that many white people in London and the Home Counties now move house on the basis of ethnicity, especially if they have children. Estate agents don’t advertise this self-segregation, of course. Instead there are polite codes for that kind of thing, such as the mention of “a good school”, which I believe is code for “mainly white English”. Not surprising when you learn that nearly one million pupils do not have English as a first language.
I, too, have decided to leave my area, following in the footsteps of so many of my neighbours. I don’t really want to go. I worked long and hard to get to London, to find a good job and buy a home and I’d like to stay here. But I’m a stranger on these streets and all the “good” areas, with safe streets, nice housing and pleasant cafés, are beyond my reach. I see London turning into a place almost exclusively for poor immigrants and the very rich.
It’s sad that I am moving not for a positive reason, but to escape something. I wonder whether I’ll tell the truth, if I’m asked. I can’t pretend that I’m worried about local schools, so perhaps I’ll say it’s for the chance of a conversation over the garden fence. But really I no longer need an excuse: mass immigration is making reluctant racists of us all.
Yup. Mohatarma does not have the courage to call out the failure in brit administration and the political-liberal class that has made her life so miserable. Instead, the usual, we are nice people. Outsiders are making us racists. I hope London rots.
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^^^^^^^

seems more like karma came back to bite them in their white british arses and well deserved too.

It's going to happen all over the EU too.

The hijabed fundoos will have taken over one country after another with good infrastructure already in place, without firing a shot and having used the host countries' own liberal laws to subvert them. This is a cool way for the fundoos to get out of their desert damned countries and colonize new settlements.

are the whiteys so culturally blind or what??
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