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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby A_Gupta » 20 Apr 2015 22:30

Also posted on the geopolitical thread (over there, focusing on the fall of the Westphalian state).
Here:
http://forward.com/opinion/israel/30607 ... and-obama/

Less understood is the complex interrelationship between Netanyahu, his generals and Washington officialdom. Although Netanyahu’s political reputation is built in large part on his outspoken advocacy of Israeli security, his strategic views aren’t widely shared by his own military and intelligence command. Washington knows it, and shares the Israel generals’ worldview. This complicates Netanyahu’s life, just as his alliance with Congress complicates the administration’s.

The disagreements inside Jerusalem involve not just tactical decisions but deeper philosophical approaches to national defense. As a citizen army in a nation surrounded by enemies, Israel’s military command sees its primary mission as keeping the country secure and its citizens safe by preventing war. It seeks to do this through a combination of deterrence and diplomacy. That pits it against both the Netanyahu-led secular and settler-led religious wings of the Israeli right, which seek victory, not mere calm. The right often suspects the military’s avoidance of war reflects cowardice or worse.

The tensions are compounded by a profound disagreement between the political and intelligence communities over the intentions of Israel’s neighbors.
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Simply put, the intelligence community believes the events of the last two decades — specifically the Oslo Accords of 1993 and the Arab Peace Initiative of 2002 — represent a genuine if reluctant shift in Arab intentions, from a goal of destroying Israel to a strategic decision to accept Israel’s existence. The political leadership disagrees.
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Thanks to a strong tradition of democratic civilian rule, Israel’s military doesn’t advertise its disagreements with the elected leadership. Generals give interviews, mostly in Hebrew, and they don’t lie when questioned directly, but they avoid flatly challenging their civilian bosses. It’s thus commonly assumed that Netanyahu’s defense views, whether on Iran or the Palestinian conflict, represent the consensus of the country’s strategic command. They don’t.

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby VinodTK » 21 Apr 2015 03:40

Should Modi accept Israel's invite? Yes. He should ignore the naysayers
The subject of Prime Minister Narendra Modi's possible response to an invitation by Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and President Reuven Rivlin to visit their country has set tongues wagging, both domestically and internationally. Arab News, a Saudi broadsheet owned by one of King Salman's sons, warned that the Indian PM would be taking a risky gamble on relations with Israel while domestic tabloids indicated bureaucratic unease with the strengthening of relations between India and Israel, at least at this juncture.

This is quite a strong reaction to a potential state visit to a country that has so far only existed on the periphery of Indian political thinking. No matter, the Indian prime minister must go to Israel and not fall prey to this tactic of unmaking government decisions even before they are made.
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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby Tuvaluan » 21 Apr 2015 06:01

Now is a fine time to tell the arab dorks where to get off - hope the PM makes this visit to Israel. None of the business of the Arab states who India hangs around with, just like it is none of the US's business.

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby schinnas » 21 Apr 2015 12:00

There needs to be one overarching goal in our tactical and strategic relationship with Israel. Everything else is secondary. Both Israel and India are threatened by the "islamic bomb" in the hands of an army that is openly committed to jihad. No need to elaborate further.

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Postby A_Gupta » 04 May 2015 16:09

http://blogs.economictimes.indiatimes.c ... arthquake/

An unexpected fallout of the recent earthquake in Nepal was the evacuation by the Israeli government of 26 newborn surrogate babies from the ravaged country even as the mothers, mostly Indian women, were left behind. The parents of the babies were mostly gay Israeli men, who are not allowed surrogacy under Israeli laws and hence seek options overseas. While most of the surrogate mothers are Indian, they chose to have their babies in Nepal because a change in Indian law in 2014 restricts surrogacy only to married heterosexual couples. For Indian women, moving to Nepal to have the babies is quite simple because no extra documents are required.

The Israel government has clarified that their surrogacy laws don’t have a natural disaster clause, the reason why the babies were airlifted while the mothers left behind. Further, Israel is now looking at allowing the pregnant Indian surrogate mothers to fly to Israel to give birth to their babies. The government even plans to speak with authorities in India so that complications don’t arise when it is time to sever the legal connection between the surrogate mothers and children in Israel.

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby Haresh » 24 May 2015 21:57

UN: Israel is worst violator of health rights in the world

My question is, why did India vote in favour of this resolution??????
WTF is Modi's govt thinking?????? :evil: :evil:

http://blog.unwatch.org/index.php/2015/ ... w.facebook

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby devesh » 25 May 2015 03:40

Confidence building measure. India needs to stroke the delicate egos of Muslims in India and around the world. It's all part of "realpolitik".

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby A_Gupta » 25 May 2015 05:30

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Analys ... ace-403974
Jerusalem Post: "Analysis: NPT - Five years of grace"
Five more years.

That is the grace period once again given to Israel to avoid discussing Arab and international calls to open talks to create a Middle East Nuclear Free Zone.

This is the practical result after the Review Conference of the Non-Proliferation Treaty failed over the weekend to reach a consensus and ended without a final statement.

Once again, it was the US (together with the UK and Canada) that came to the rescue of Israel, taking it off the hook.

The month-long conference convened in New York City with more than 150 countries in attendance. It collapsed after the US rejected an Egyptian draft resolution, backed by the majority of the state members and participants, echoing decades of calls to dismantle any nuclear weapons that Israel may have, which the Jewish state neither confirms nor denies it possesses.

The final paper, drafted by Cairo and opposed by the US, would have called upon UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon to convene a regional conference on banning nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction, such as chemical and biological, by March 2016.

Egypt, however, also insisted that the conference be held with or without Israel’s participation, without prior agreement on an agenda and with no discussion of regional security issues.

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby chaanakya » 31 May 2015 23:05

Narendra Modi to visit Israel, first by an Indian PM



NEW DELHI: Narendra Modi will be travelling to Israel, the first by an Indian Prime Minister to the Jewish country with which bilateral defence cooperation is on an upswing.

No dates have been finalized for Modi's visit which will take place on mutually convenient dates, external affairs minister Sushma Swaraj said.

Swaraj said she will be travelling to Israel this year, besides Palestine and Jordan.

India had established "full" diplomatic relationship with Israel in 1992 though it had recognized the country in 1950. No Indian Prime Minister or President has ever visited that country.

Ariel Sharon, the-then Israeli prime minister, had become the first premier from that country to visit India when he came here in 2003. He is credited with transforming bilateral relations from diminutive defence and trade cooperation to the strategic ties of today.

READ ALSO: India-Israel defence ties 'out of closet' now

"As far as my visit is concerned, it will take place this year. I will visit, Israel, Palestine and Jordan. As far as Prime Minister's visit is concerned, he will travel to Israel. No dates have been finalized. It will take place as per mutually convenient dates," she said replying to a question at a press conference.

At the same time, she asserted, "There was no change in India's policy towards Palestine."

LK Advani had visited Israel when he was home minister in the Atal Bihari Vajpayee government. Jaswant Singh and SM Krishna had visited the Jewish nation as external affairs ministers. Recently home minister Rajnath Singh had also visited Israel.

READ ALSO: Israel will partner India to develop missile system

Describing Israel as a friendly country, Swaraj said India had never "let down" the Palestinian cause and it will continue to support it.

Asked whether the Prime Minister will visit Iran, she said no such visit has been finalized so far but he will be visiting Turkey to attend G20 Summit later this year. Swaraj said she will travel to Iran to attend the NAM Summit this year.

Talking about government's efforts to reach out to various countries, Swaraj said Prime Minister will visit five Central Asian countries including Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan and Tajikistan when he travels to Russia to attend the BRICS Summit.

READ ALSO: For Israel, China's a trading partner, India a strategic one

"When he goes to Ufa in Russia for BRICS summit, he will visit five Central Asian countries," Swaraj said, adding "the foreign policy has been spread quite significantly. We achieved a lot."

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby Abhay_S » 31 May 2015 23:18

^^^ the hunood-o-yahood sasish has started. more masala for the BENIS thread :wink:

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby chaanakya » 31 May 2015 23:46

Dates are not finalised but news is released now when OIC passed a Kashmir Resolution against India. NaMo is signalling departure from Arap policy. No more appeasement of Islamic countries. What gives??

India terms OIC resolution on Kashmir ''completely unacceptable'

New Delhi: India on Friday rejected an OIC resolution commenting on Jammu and Kashmir as "completely unacceptable" and asked the association of 56 Islamic states to "refrain from interfering in the internal affairs of India".

In a strongly worded statement, the ministry of external affairs said: "We have seen the OIC Resolution commenting on the Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir. It is completely unacceptable. We dismiss it with the contempt it deserves. We advise the OIC to refrain from interfering in the internal affairs of India."

On Thursday, Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) Secretary General Iyad Ameen Madani made a special reference on Jammu and Kashmir in his opening statement at the 42nd session of the OIC Council of Foreign Ministers (CFM) in Kuwait, stressing the need for a peaceful resolution of the Kashmir dispute and said that final disposition of the issue should be evolved through a sustainable dialogue in accordance with the aspirations of the people of Jammu and Kashmir.


Later, the meeting of the OIC Contact Group on Jammu and Kashmir was chaired by Special Envoy of the OIC Secretary General on Jammu and Kashmir, Ambassador Abdur Rehman Abdullah Alim.

The meeting was attended among others by Sartaj Aziz, adviser to the prime minister of Pakistan on national security and foreign affairs; Elmar Mamadyarov, foreign minister of Azerbaijan; Ambassador Muhammad Ahmed Tayyab of Saudi Arabia, the ambassador of Turkey; and ambassador Dr.Oumarou Amadou Sonrhai of Niger. Sardar Muhammad Yaqoob Khan, president of Pakistani Jammu and Kashmir and Kashmiri leader Ghulam Muhammad Safi also attended the meeting, according to Kashmir Media Service

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby Avarachan » 01 Jun 2015 06:15

I have nothing against Shri Modi visiting Israel. (Without Israel's help in the Kargil War, India would have lost.) However, in my opinion, he should also visit Syria, Iraq, and Egypt. Due to the wars and strife there, many people in those countries are re-considering their commitment to Islam (both politically and personally). I personally know of such instances. It is in India's interest to encourage this process of reflection and questioning. This is a once-in-a-generation opportunity.

Also, Indians should remember that Israel is a cold-blooded player of realpolitik. It has long been whispered that Israel aided Khalistani terrorists in the 1980's in exchange for Western support of its own geopolitical goals. So, it's wise for India to have good relations with all sides.

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby Tuvaluan » 01 Jun 2015 06:19

avarachan wrote:However, in my opinion, he should also visit Syria, Iraq, and Egypt. Due to the wars and strife there, many people in those countries are re-considering their commitment to Islam (both politically and personally)


so are you claiming that the muslim brotherhood is not a force to reckon with in the region? Because unless there is good evidence for that, it would be pretty stupid to put the Indian PM at risk based on some stupid rumor and place him in the middle of a million islamist mofos. Is this sudden heart bleeding based on some notion that India has to do such a thing for the sake of India's polity? Else what does India gain by putting the Indian PM at such risk in countries that have been told that the PM was personally responsible for killing muslims in 2002 (all done by the worthless aholes in the INC under the mofo sonia's leadership for about a decade)?

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby Avarachan » 01 Jun 2015 06:32

Watch your tone. There's no need to be so aggressive.

Obviously, PM Modi should only visit countries/leaders if he would be safe. I hope this is obvious.

As I said, the opportunity to weaken Islam's hold on Iraq/Syria/Egypt is a once-in-a-generation opportunity. India should seize it, if at all possible. Keep in mind that Iraq and Syria have historically been the Middle Eastern countries most sympathetic to an Indic point of view. Egypt was once a prominent member of the Non-Aligned Movement.

Also, as is well known, Israel and the West are significant drivers of Sunni jihadism. (Sunni Muslims must also take responsibility for letting themselves be used as "useful idiots" in these geopolitical maneuvers.) A growing number of people in the Middle East realize this. In my opinion, India should offer a "third way" to these people--an alternative to being a jihadist or a puppet of the West. Iraq, Syria, and Egypt should look back into their own histories: they weren't always Muslim. India can and should help them in this process.
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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby Tuvaluan » 01 Jun 2015 06:38

Watch your tone. There's no need to be so aggressive.


Just an involuntary reaction to utterly stupid sh!t unfortunately, my bad. So how exactly is he going to be safe in countries where even the locals are not safe from islamists, which is also common knowledge? Did you even think for a second before writing stuff? So why are you assuming that islamist groups do not have much penetration through all levels of society here? Egypt being a member of the non-alignment movement decades ago implies that islamists have no influence in egypt today is it? That is just precious.

Anyway, I am pretty sure the people in the Indian govt. won't be doing any such silly thing and put the PM's life at risk. So do go ahead and provide more ahead-of-the-curve recommendations for what India should be doing so that we can do an equal-equal so muslims in India will not feel bad (I presuming that is the motivation behind this brilliant idea, if not, please do enlighten.)

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby Avarachan » 01 Jun 2015 06:53

I don't agree with an equal-equal policy and I'm not advocating that. That should have been clear from my post.

Beyond that, I don't care for your tone. I don't waste my time conversing with rude people. Have a nice day. Cheers.

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby Tuvaluan » 01 Jun 2015 07:02

That's great. have a lovely day. Apologies for getting your goat. Next time, just read up on local politics of these countries before you say such things, and I mean it in nicest possible way. The likelyhood of those populations giving up on islam is curiously similar to my chances of being Deepika Padukone's BFF.

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby Falijee » 03 Jun 2015 21:02

An India-Iran-Israel alliance could be Modi's legacy

India today finds itself in a unique position as far as the West Asian political cauldron is concerned. There are not many nations that have good relations with both Israel and Iran. It is a rare alignment of geopolitical stars that forms this constellation where India can act as a conduit between Israel and Iran.


Comment : As long as the Mullahs are in power in Iran, this is unlikely to happen.

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby Tuvaluan » 03 Jun 2015 21:07

Besides, this being "middleman" business is pretty useless, as the recent experience with US and Iran goes. Once the two parties establish a line, the "bridge" has no value and can be blown up at will. India should stop doing stupid s**t about "bringing the world together", wasting time and resources as a use-and-throw intermediary and focus on establishing and pushing its interests bilaterally at all times.

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Postby Vikas » 03 Jun 2015 21:16

Tuvaluan wrote:The likelyhood of those populations giving up on islam is curiously similar to my chances of being Deepika Padukone's BFF.


I stand in the way of fulfillment of your wet dreams just like Islam itself stands in front of those Muslims entertaining the thought of quitting Islam.
I think this is a big myth being propagated that population in ME is on the verge of quitting on Islam. We don't owe any thing to these Islamists nor it is in any of our interest.

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby Prem » 03 Jun 2015 22:54

Let these countries in neighborhood and near abroad think in term of having alliance with us not other way around, Bahut Farak hai Dono mey. We need to change our mentality to change their mentality .

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby RajeshA » 03 Jun 2015 23:10

Falijee wrote:An India-Iran-Israel alliance could be Modi's legacy

India today finds itself in a unique position as far as the West Asian political cauldron is concerned. There are not many nations that have good relations with both Israel and Iran. It is a rare alignment of geopolitical stars that forms this constellation where India can act as a conduit between Israel and Iran.


Comment : As long as the Mullahs are in power in Iran, this is unlikely to happen.


It is more likely that Arabs would be India's best friends before the Iranians forget their imperialist pretensions!

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby panduranghari » 04 Jun 2015 00:05

Jhujar wrote:Let these countries in neighborhood and near abroad think in term of having alliance with us not other way around, Bahut Farak hai Dono mey. We need to change our mentality to change their mentality .


WRT India, don't these neighbours have grand delusions (like Dubya) - Either you are with us or you are against us?

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby Vipul » 04 Jun 2015 02:29

Illicit children of the 7th century religion calls PM Modi's visit to Israel worrisome.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi's proposed visit to Israel is "worrisome" as it undermines India's position on Palestine and also "destroys balance" in foreign policy, senior Congress leader Anand Sharma said on Wednesday.

Addressing reporters here, the Congress Deputy Leader in Rajya Sabha said India has had a consistent and firm position on the rights of Palestinians for a state of their own since the days of Mahatma Gandhi and Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru.

"So, there has to be balance. This Prime Minister has actually undermined that balance in India's foreign policy because he has not engaged with the countries of the Middle East, countries of the Gulf. He has diluted India's firm, consistent position on Palestine," he said.

The former Union minister said the PM has also not engaged with Africa and Latin America.

"Since it (the visit) is confined to Israel, the Prime Minister must bear this in mind that India has vital interests... Economic interests in the countries of the Gulf, countries of the Middle East. There are over seven million Indian diaspora (in these regions)," Sharma cautioned.

"Foreign policy cannot be partisan. He (Modi) is free to travel but the message that he gives and the balance which he destroys...That's worrisome," he said.

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby Vipul » 04 Jun 2015 04:56

Why Modi Visit to Israel is Important for India.

In a historic first, Narendra Modi is set to visit Israel later this year. He will become the first prime minister of India to visit the country. Ahead of Modi's visit, External Affairs Minister, Sushma Swaraj will visit Israel, Jordan and the Palestinian territories.

Modi had visited Israel as chief minister of Gujarat in 2006. And as Indian Prime Minister, he had met his Israeli counterpart, Benjamin Netanyahu on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly's annual session last year. Home Minister Rajnath Singh had visited Israel in November to boost counter-terror cooperation.

A hallmark of Modi's foreign policy has been a self-confident assertion of Indian interests. This is reflected in his government's moves vis-a-vis Israel, marking a distinct break from unnecessary and counterproductive diffidence of the past. Despite sharing 23 years of diplomatic ties and working closely on defence, counter-terrorism, agriculture and energy related issues, no Indian Prime Minister or President has ever visited Israel.

When it comes to India's Israel policy, hypocrisy has been the norm. Just last year, Israel's actions in Gaza were deemed so unacceptable by Indian parliamentarians that all perspective was lost. Calling for suspension of military purchases from Israel, the CPI-M's Sitaram Yechury had suggested that "India cannot be a party to this genocide."

Leader of the Opposition Ghulam Nabi Azad demanded that the Rajya Sabha pass a resolution condemning the attacks and hit out at the government saying it was regrettable that New Delhi did not raise its voice against the "massacre". Ahmed Hassan of the Trinamool Congress wanted India to raise the issue at the United Nations, and CPI's D Raja called for a "categorical stand condemning Israel."

Despite representing a nation that is one of the biggest victims of cross-border terrorism in the world, our esteemed members of Parliament have had no compunction in equating the actions of a liberal democratic Israel with the murderous extremism of a terrorist organisation such as Hamas.

Couched in the humanitarian concern for the plight of Gaza residents, the opposition did its best to play to the gallery, insinuating that because of the BJP government, religious motives cannot be far behind. In her reply, External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj had done well to remind her opposition colleagues that India's relations with Palestine and Israel were a legacy of previous governments, including the Congress-led UPA government of the recent past.

There has been a steady strengthening of India's relationship with Israel ever since the two established full diplomatic relations in 1992. It is a tribute to Narasimha Rao's foresight that he was able to lay the basis of Indo-Israeli partnership. In contrast to the back-channel security ties that existed before the normalisation of bilateral relations, India has been more willing in recent years to carve out a mutually beneficial bilateral relationship with Israel, including deepening military ties and countering the threat terrorism poses to the two societies.

Over the years, the Indian government has also toned down its reactions to Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. India has also begun denouncing Palestinian suicide bombings and other terrorist acts in Israel, something that was seen earlier as rather justified in light of the Israeli policies against the Palestinians. India is no longer initiating anti-Israel resolutions at the UN and has made serious attempts to moderate NAM's anti-Israel resolutions.

This re-evaluation has been based on a realisation that India's largely pro-Arab stance in the Middle East has not been adequately rewarded by the Arab world. India has received no worthwhile backing from the Arab countries in the resolution of problems it faces in its neighbourhood, especially Kashmir. There have been no serious attempts by the Arab world to put pressure on Pakistan to reign in cross-border insurgency in Kashmir.

On the contrary, the Arab nations have firmly stood by Pakistan, using the Organisation of Islamic Conference to build support for Islamabad and the jihadi groups in Kashmir. If Arab nations, such as Jordan, have been able to keep their traditional ties with Palestine intact while building a new relationship with Israel, there is no reason for India not to take a similar route, which might give it more room for diplomatic manoeuvring.

Keeping India's wider strategic interests in perspective, successive Indian governments since the early 1990s have walked a nuanced line between expressing genuine concern for the Palestinian cause and expanding its commercial and defence ties with Israel. India is the world's largest buyer of Israeli weaponry and was Israel's third largest trading partner in Asia in 2013, just after China and Hong Kong.

The domestic political milieu continues to exert its substantial influence on the trajectory of India-Israel relations. Israel has been a good friend of India but New Delhi continues to be shy of demonstrating its friendship. At crucial times, when India needed Israeli help, it got it unreservedly. Israel was willing to continue and even step up its arms sales to India after other major states curbed their technological exports following India's May 1998 nuclear tests.

Israel provided India with much-needed imagery of Pakistani positions using its UAVs during the Kargil War in 1999, which was instrumental in turning the war around for India. When India was planning to undertake a limited military strike against Pakistan in June 2002 as part of "Operation Parakram," Israel supplied hardware through special planes. The terrorism that both India and Israel face comes not only from disaffected groups within their territories; it is also aided and abetted by neighbouring states, increasingly capable of transferring weapons of mass destruction to terrorist organisations.

And yet previous governments had been reticent in acknowledging Israel's partnership. In diplomacy, public affirmation of friendships at the highest levels is often as important as drawing red lines for adversaries. The Modi government is doing well by repudiating the discredited Israel policy of its predecessors. An open relationship with Israel serves India well and it's about time Tel Aviv gets the recognition it deserves from New Delhi.

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby sunnyP » 04 Jun 2015 23:02

Avarachan wrote:I have nothing against Shri Modi visiting Israel. (Without Israel's help in the Kargil War, India would have lost.) However, in my opinion, he should also visit Syria, Iraq, and Egypt. Due to the wars and strife there, many people in those countries are re-considering their commitment to Islam (both politically and personally). I personally know of such instances. It is in India's interest to encourage this process of reflection and questioning. This is a once-in-a-generation opportunity.

Also, Indians should remember that Israel is a cold-blooded player of realpolitik. It has long been whispered that Israel aided Khalistani terrorists in the 1980's in exchange for Western support of its own geopolitical goals. So, it's wise for India to have good relations with all sides.



India of course needs to maintain cordial relations with nations in the Middle East however to suggest that India has a role to play in the de-islamisation of the people in these countries is rather far fetched and tbh a bit ridiculous. If anything, the people of these nations are becoming more Islamic and not less. The Brotherhood would still be in power in Egypt had they not been banned from contesting elections. Syria is now 50% ISIS and 25% other jihadi anti Assad groups - even Assad's allies no longer visit Syria so what hope is there for a Kaffir Hindu leader to fly in? As for Iraq, well it is exponentially more religious than it was under Saddam and the Shiites there are just as crazy as their Sunni opponents.

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby durairaaj » 19 Aug 2015 10:53

For the Record:
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Summary:
An Indian woman was allegedly not allowed to order food in an Israeli cafe called Free Kasol in Himachal Pradesh. According to a post on Facebook by Stephen Kaye, the owner of Free Kasol, an Indian himself, allegedly refused to give the writer's Indian friend a menu claiming it was a members only cafe. However when Kaye, was given a menu when asked because he was a foreigner.

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Postby A_Gupta » 07 Sep 2015 17:48

This is from June in the Jerusalem Post, not sure it has appeared on BRF:
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Balochista ... own-407054
"Balochistan leaders seek Israel help amid Pakistan crackdown"

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby Multatuli » 22 Sep 2015 02:43

Israel to bring in 20,000 Chinese construction workers

Israel plans to bring in 20,000 Chinese construction workers to help build new apartments as part of efforts to lower housing costs, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Sunday.

Netanyahu announced the plan at the start of a cabinet meeting, his office said. The finance ministry later said the cabinet had approved it.

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Netanyahu said that it was important to move forward despite "side costs," with the cost of living a major issue in Israel.

"In my view, this is a necessary and important step to lower housing prices," Netanyahu said.

Israel's construction sector employs 216,000 workers, including 37,000 Palestinians and 6,000 foreigners, with some 3,700 Chinese.

The finance ministry said the lack of skilled Israeli and Palestinian construction workers, as well as the instability in employing Palestinians -- whose permits can be revoked due to the security situation -- have created a shortage of workers.

The Chinese's pace of work in building high-risers was 50 percent higher than that of Israelis, Palestinians and others, the finance ministry said.

http://news.yahoo.com/israel-bring-20-0 ... 57724.html

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby Amber G. » 01 Oct 2015 21:23

Just heard Israel PM speech in UN.. quite strong, blunt and nicely delivered..

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby A_Gupta » 22 Oct 2015 01:31

Netanyahu defends Hitler in his attempt to smear Palestinians.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/net ... ler-really

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby A_Gupta » 24 Oct 2015 00:24

Behind a paywall, but Haaretz reports:
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.681918
"Israel’s Nuclear Advisory Panel Endorses Iran Deal

Countering Netanyahu, government and most of opposition, nation's Atomic Energy Commission maintains pact will prevent Tehran from developing nuclear bomb, source says.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.681918"

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby A_Gupta » 24 Oct 2015 00:25

"Report: Israel breached Iran airspace in 2012 in what US thought was dry run for strike"
http://www.timesofisrael.com/report-isr ... uke-talks/

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby A_Gupta » 24 Oct 2015 00:28

Also:
http://www.jpost.com/International/Repo ... ure-429863

Hope that India had changed its traditional pattern of voting against Israel at international forum, and instead abstaining, melted away this week when India voted for an anti-Israel UNESCO motion.

On Wednesday, the executive board of UNESCO, the UN’s cultural heritage agency, passed a one-sided resolution that solely condemned Israel’s aggression on the Temple Mount, and declared that the Jewish holy sites of the Cave of the Patriarchs and Rachel’s Tomb are “integral parts of Palestine.”

India was one of the 26 countries that voted for the motion, while another 25 abstained and six voted against.

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby devesh » 25 Oct 2015 04:12

looks like our worthies in EAM and top BJP honchos don't have much common sense. chalo....we will have our comeuppance when eventually the UN decides to introduce a resolution for plebiscite in JK, or perhaps even better, a resolution "advicing" that BD immigrants in Assam should have "open access" to BD and India.

history shows that all helpers and allies of Islamics eventually pay the price of their foolishness when the monster turns on its so-called former "friends".

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby Hitesh » 26 Oct 2015 20:20

Israel knows that India has to appease its Muslim population with "just for show" moves that is practically meaningless in reality but good for feel good consumption. Meanwhile deeper relations are going on between many levers and levels of government and military industrial complex between Israel and India.

The moves in the useless UN saves India from having to make any active anti-Israel statements to placate its Muslim population.

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby devesh » 30 Oct 2015 09:29

Right. If we have to appease our Muslims with such moves, it basically means the the entire premise of Indian constitution & secularism is bogus.

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Re: Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

Postby Hitesh » 30 Oct 2015 23:20

Congress in its 40 years of rule and the recent action by the Supreme Court of India have already shown that. This is just a political screening. Israelis are smart enough to understand that difference.


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