SivaN wrote:Whatever rationalisations people come up with on this forum, a few facts are in order
1. War crimes are being committed, and some folks probably cannot land in Europe at all for fear of arrest
No one cares about europe. Just wait till suicide bombs start going off regularly in europe. Most europeans have no love for muslims. Its their misguided idea that solving israel-palestine problem will make the muslims love them like giving kashmir to porkis will stop terrorism that makes them support the palestinians. Heck Palestine is a mythical country that was made up to beat israel. The muslims in those areas are mostly syrian or egyptian descendants. More power to israel.
All rocket attacks from gaza are theatrics of hamas. They know they will never win against israel. So I say Israel has the right to respond with its own theatrics.SivaN wrote:2. The current war is purely election theatrics for Israelis for Bibi and Livni
SivaN wrote:3. Getting pogrom'ed out by Europe is no reason to steal Palestinian land. They had nothing to do with the pogroms. Compared to what happened in Europe till the 1900s, Jews/Muslims were pretty much OK in getting along.
Israelis are not pets to be thrown out of europe because europeans wanted it then and now get thrown out of israel because europeans suddenly feel it was wrong. Since the brits and europe are responsible for the mess lets give palestinians land in europe/britain to compensate. That fair isn't it? Muslims never got along with anyone so stop day dreaming since you are not an idiot like me. Israel is doing a good job kudos to them.
SivaN wrote:4. There is nothing unique about their suffering i.e. Jewish suffering is not special that they should be exempt from rules of war and peace. Heck, by that token, about 3-5 million(and lots dead) people lost their moorings in our Partition. No Indian OR Pakistani is claiming special privileges.
Of course it is unique. They were the first ones to stand up to the muslims and smash them to kingdom come. Indians are too stupid and cowardly (top leadership atleast). lets not even compare the two. I as an indian would be ashamed of it. I already am the way [b]EDITED MMS has handled mumbai attacks[/b]. OF course if GOI does something useful at a place and time of its choosing I will withdraw the statement.
SivaN wrote:5. And the Zionist idealogy is racist. God's chosen people? A Jewish state? WTF are the rest of the world? 2nd class folks under their God? Replace Zionism with Muslim....hey, mad muslims crap.
So is Islam. I would take jewish snobbery over muslim suicide bombing any day. So again more power to israel.
SivaN wrote:This war itself is a turkey shoot, killing women and children; IDF at its best. Notice, how many hamas fighters were killed so far? Few arent they? This invasion is Sabra and Shatila redux with IDF instead of Phalangists.
Good for israel. Thank god hamas is not powerful else they would have killed thousands of innocent israelis who wouldn't even be used as shields by IDF.
50 % of those killed are HAmas fighters and the rest pawns used by them. So all in all a very good count.