Left: UPA Gaza stand shameful
New Delhi, Jan. 22: The complete silence of the UPA government on the Israeli blockade of Gaza has come in for strong criticism from the CPI(M) and senior diplomats. In a statement on Tuesday, the CPI(M) said, “The UPA government is keeping a shameful silence on this criminal blockade by Israel. It is instead collaborating with Israel to enhance its military capability.â€
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[quote="pradeepe"]Left: UPA Gaza stand shameful
In a statement on Tuesday, the CPI(M) said, “The UPA government is keeping a shameful silence on this criminal blockade by Israel. â€
In a statement on Tuesday, the CPI(M) said, “The UPA government is keeping a shameful silence on this criminal blockade by Israel. â€
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I suppose that to our Left,the daily rocket barrage from Hamas into Israel must be seen as a wonderful gesture of goodwill and the Israeli population should rush out with open arms in grateful thanks and be blown to smithereens! Just like the poor Bengali farmers,deprived of their land,who were treated to a rousing reception of police bullets and diabolic acts of the bloodthirsty species, "bengalis leftist".
Though I despair at times of the supinity and spinelessness of the Congress Party,the Left should also be asked to nail its nationalist credo to the wall of Parliament for the people to examine and judge for themselves where their loyalties lie.
Though I despair at times of the supinity and spinelessness of the Congress Party,the Left should also be asked to nail its nationalist credo to the wall of Parliament for the people to examine and judge for themselves where their loyalties lie.
The people of Gaza have far better nutrition, health care, education and life expectancy than a large percentage of Indians.Hopefully, then they’d know the pain, the tragedy and the humiliation of Gaza.
Instead of obsessing over ummah-members under the boot of infidels, the good ambassador should be concerned about the millions in India who are under-nourished and under-employed.
The pain, tragedy and humiliation of the poor, exacerbated by decades of Nehruvian growth as socialism stifled the Indian economy, should be the concern of Indian politicians, not the people in far away Gaza.
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[quote="pradeepe"]Left: UPA Gaza stand shameful
Former ambassador M. Bhadrakumar, more willing than others to be quoted on the issue, did not mince words when he said, “Our leadership is humiliating the country. They should reread the history of India’s freedom struggle. They should revisit Jallianwalla Bagh. Hopefully, then they’d know the pain, the tragedy and the humiliation of Gaza. Gandhiji would be turning in his grave. It is the height of insensitivity that India should launch Israel’s spy satellite. Life is not all about economics and money.â€
Former ambassador M. Bhadrakumar, more willing than others to be quoted on the issue, did not mince words when he said, “Our leadership is humiliating the country. They should reread the history of India’s freedom struggle. They should revisit Jallianwalla Bagh. Hopefully, then they’d know the pain, the tragedy and the humiliation of Gaza. Gandhiji would be turning in his grave. It is the height of insensitivity that India should launch Israel’s spy satellite. Life is not all about economics and money.â€
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[quote="amit"][quote="pradeepe"]Left: UPA Gaza stand shameful
It is the height of insensitivity that India should launch Israel’s spy satellite. Life is not all about economics and money.â€
It is the height of insensitivity that India should launch Israel’s spy satellite. Life is not all about economics and money.â€
Latest developmenst.Thousands of Palestinians flee into Egypt after Hamas blow up a border wall!
Palestinians flood into Egypt after blowing up border wall
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/ ... 07,00.html
Mark Tran and agencies
Wednesday January 23, 2008
Guardian Unlimited
Tens of thousands of Palestinians today poured into Egypt from Gaza after militants blew up part of the wall between the two territories in protest at an Israeli blockade.
On foot, in cars or riding donkey carts, Gazans burst into the Egyptian border town of Rafah to buy cigarettes, plastic bottles of fuel and other supplies that have become scarce and expensive after months of economic isolation.
"I have bought everything I need for the house for months. I have bought food, cigarettes and even two gallons of diesel for my car," Mohammed Saeed told Reuters.
Many of the Palestinians, some travelling from the northern Gaza Strip, found transport towards the Egyptian coastal town of El Arish, about 40km away.
Others stayed on the Egyptian side of Rafah and clamoured to buy merchandise that has been in short supply in Gaza, even going as afar as emptying some shops.
Hamas, which has controlled the narrow coastal strip since last June, did not take responsibility for knocking the border wall down, but its militants quickly took control as Egyptian border guards stood aside.
Hamas police funnelled the crowds through two sections of the border and inspected bags, confiscating seven pistols carried by one man returning to Gaza.
Palestinian gunmen began blowing holes in the border wall running through Rafah at dawn. There were 17 explosions in all, Hamas security officials said. About two-thirds of the 12km wall was demolished, at one point with the help of a bulldozer.
Hamas expressed support for the move, saying: "Blowing up the border wall with Egypt is a reflection of the ... catastrophic situation which the Palestinian people in Gaza are living through due to the blockade."
Israel expressed its concern at the latest developments and called on Egypt to restore order. "Israel has no forces in Gaza or Egypt, and the Egyptians control the border, and therefore it is the responsibility of Egypt to ensure that the border operates properly according to the signed agreements," said Arye Mekel, a spokesman for Israel's foreign ministry.
"We expect the Egyptians to solve the problem. Obviously we are worried about the situation. It could potentially allow anybody to enter."
Hosni Mubarak, the Egyptian president, said he had told his men to allow Palestinians into Egypt to buy food before escorting them out.
"I told them to let them come in and eat and buy food and then return them later as long as they were not carrying weapons," he told reporters at the Cairo book fair.
Last week Israel tightened its economic blockade on Gaza in response to an increase in rocket attacks from Palestinian militants. Egypt tacitly supported the Israeli decision by keeping its border with Gaza closed.
In response to international warnings of a humanitarian crisis, Israel yesterday allowed one-off shipments of fuel and cooking oil into Gaza. However, Gazans still face critical shortages of electricity, fuel and other supplies.
The territory has been largely cut off from the world since June, when Hamas seized power in Gaza by force from its Fatah rivals led by the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas. Egypt has largely kept its border with Gaza closed amid concerns of a spillover of Hamas-style militancy into Egypt.
Gaza's Hamas rulers have orchestrated daily demonstrations on the Gaza-Egypt border, in an apparent attempt to appeal to Arabs to put pressure on Egypt to open its border.
Palestinians flood into Egypt after blowing up border wall
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/ ... 07,00.html
Mark Tran and agencies
Wednesday January 23, 2008
Guardian Unlimited
Tens of thousands of Palestinians today poured into Egypt from Gaza after militants blew up part of the wall between the two territories in protest at an Israeli blockade.
On foot, in cars or riding donkey carts, Gazans burst into the Egyptian border town of Rafah to buy cigarettes, plastic bottles of fuel and other supplies that have become scarce and expensive after months of economic isolation.
"I have bought everything I need for the house for months. I have bought food, cigarettes and even two gallons of diesel for my car," Mohammed Saeed told Reuters.
Many of the Palestinians, some travelling from the northern Gaza Strip, found transport towards the Egyptian coastal town of El Arish, about 40km away.
Others stayed on the Egyptian side of Rafah and clamoured to buy merchandise that has been in short supply in Gaza, even going as afar as emptying some shops.
Hamas, which has controlled the narrow coastal strip since last June, did not take responsibility for knocking the border wall down, but its militants quickly took control as Egyptian border guards stood aside.
Hamas police funnelled the crowds through two sections of the border and inspected bags, confiscating seven pistols carried by one man returning to Gaza.
Palestinian gunmen began blowing holes in the border wall running through Rafah at dawn. There were 17 explosions in all, Hamas security officials said. About two-thirds of the 12km wall was demolished, at one point with the help of a bulldozer.
Hamas expressed support for the move, saying: "Blowing up the border wall with Egypt is a reflection of the ... catastrophic situation which the Palestinian people in Gaza are living through due to the blockade."
Israel expressed its concern at the latest developments and called on Egypt to restore order. "Israel has no forces in Gaza or Egypt, and the Egyptians control the border, and therefore it is the responsibility of Egypt to ensure that the border operates properly according to the signed agreements," said Arye Mekel, a spokesman for Israel's foreign ministry.
"We expect the Egyptians to solve the problem. Obviously we are worried about the situation. It could potentially allow anybody to enter."
Hosni Mubarak, the Egyptian president, said he had told his men to allow Palestinians into Egypt to buy food before escorting them out.
"I told them to let them come in and eat and buy food and then return them later as long as they were not carrying weapons," he told reporters at the Cairo book fair.
Last week Israel tightened its economic blockade on Gaza in response to an increase in rocket attacks from Palestinian militants. Egypt tacitly supported the Israeli decision by keeping its border with Gaza closed.
In response to international warnings of a humanitarian crisis, Israel yesterday allowed one-off shipments of fuel and cooking oil into Gaza. However, Gazans still face critical shortages of electricity, fuel and other supplies.
The territory has been largely cut off from the world since June, when Hamas seized power in Gaza by force from its Fatah rivals led by the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas. Egypt has largely kept its border with Gaza closed amid concerns of a spillover of Hamas-style militancy into Egypt.
Gaza's Hamas rulers have orchestrated daily demonstrations on the Gaza-Egypt border, in an apparent attempt to appeal to Arabs to put pressure on Egypt to open its border.
This was a threat that Hamas made, and it has actually gone through with it. Egyptian forces on the other side have been called in re-inforcements.
Apparently, Hamas as incited Muslim Brotherhood to hold mass anti govt protests.
Hamas with Saudi backing are trying to organise an Arab summit, calling for emergency donor's at Sharm El Sheikh. This summit would empower Hamas to dictate a limited de facto ceasefire, to force the IDF to agree to holding its fire in return for the suspension of the Palestinian missile offensive.
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Meanwhile Yehudi's are preparing for the pre-emptive strikes against Iran going nuklear.
Apparently, Hamas as incited Muslim Brotherhood to hold mass anti govt protests.
Hamas with Saudi backing are trying to organise an Arab summit, calling for emergency donor's at Sharm El Sheikh. This summit would empower Hamas to dictate a limited de facto ceasefire, to force the IDF to agree to holding its fire in return for the suspension of the Palestinian missile offensive.
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Meanwhile Yehudi's are preparing for the pre-emptive strikes against Iran going nuklear.
[quote="amit"][quote="pradeepe"]Left: UPA Gaza stand shameful
Former ambassador M. Bhadrakumar, more willing than others to be quoted on the issue, did not mince words when he said, “Our leadership is humiliating the country. They should reread the history of India’s freedom struggle. They should revisit Jallianwalla Bagh. Hopefully, then they’d know the pain, the tragedy and the humiliation of Gaza. Gandhiji would be turning in his grave. It is the height of insensitivity that India should launch Israel’s spy satellite. Life is not all about economics and money.â€
Former ambassador M. Bhadrakumar, more willing than others to be quoted on the issue, did not mince words when he said, “Our leadership is humiliating the country. They should reread the history of India’s freedom struggle. They should revisit Jallianwalla Bagh. Hopefully, then they’d know the pain, the tragedy and the humiliation of Gaza. Gandhiji would be turning in his grave. It is the height of insensitivity that India should launch Israel’s spy satellite. Life is not all about economics and money.â€
He resigned today!Gerard wrote:Gandhi's grandson blasts Israel, Jews
A person in such institute should not even bring about hatred.Gerard wrote:Gandhi's grandson blasts Israel, Jews
His statement looks just like a Christian fundamentalist. Is he a Christian?
He is into social engineering.
What could be the real motive.Gandhi is pessimistic about the future of Jewish identity, which "appears bleak" because "any nation that remains anchored to the past is unable to move ahead, and especially a nation that believes its survival can only be ensured by weapons and bombs."
Could it be that he is trying to appease the minorities in India with his lineage.
In 1987, along with his entire family, Arun Gandhi moved to the United States to work on a study at the University of Mississippi. This study examined and contrasted the sorts of prejudices that existed in India, the U.S., and South Africa. Afterward they moved to Memphis, Tennessee and founded the M. K. Gandhi Institute for Non-Violence hosted by the Christian Brothers University, a Catholic academic institution. This institute was dedicated to applying the principles of nonviolence at both local and global scales. biggrin.gif
In 2007, the institute moved to Rochester, New York, and is currently located on the University of Rochester River Campus.
Arun has given many speeches about non-violence in many countries. During his tour to Israel, he urged the Palestinians to resist Israeli occupation peacefully to assure their freedom.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arun_Gandhi
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Interesting story in Deccan Chronicle, 24 Jan., 2008
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India to launch 2 more Israeli spy sats
New Delhi, Jan. 23: India and Israel are working together to launch two more spy satellites with the schedule requiring at least one of these to be placed in orbit within this year. The successful launch of the 300-kg TecSar has generated considerable enthusiasm in both India and Israel with the satellite expected to start sending the first images in early February.
The decision to launch the TecSar spy satellite, which is also referred to as Polaris, was taken shortly after the UPA government came to power. The deal was finalised during the visit of Israeli defence ministry director-general Amos Yaron to New Delhi three years ago. It is the first of three such satellites agreed upon between the two governments with the government here oblivious to the adverse reaction to the launch from its traditional friends in West Asia. The launch was effected in great secrecy with only a couple of mainstream Israeli newspapers getting a whiff of the new cooperation between New Delhi and Tel Aviv just a week before the launch.
The Israeli media, which has had access to more information than given out by the government here, has pointed out that the satellite was intended to spy on Iran and Syria. The government here has tried to give the strategic cooperation a “commercialâ€
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India to launch 2 more Israeli spy sats
New Delhi, Jan. 23: India and Israel are working together to launch two more spy satellites with the schedule requiring at least one of these to be placed in orbit within this year. The successful launch of the 300-kg TecSar has generated considerable enthusiasm in both India and Israel with the satellite expected to start sending the first images in early February.
The decision to launch the TecSar spy satellite, which is also referred to as Polaris, was taken shortly after the UPA government came to power. The deal was finalised during the visit of Israeli defence ministry director-general Amos Yaron to New Delhi three years ago. It is the first of three such satellites agreed upon between the two governments with the government here oblivious to the adverse reaction to the launch from its traditional friends in West Asia. The launch was effected in great secrecy with only a couple of mainstream Israeli newspapers getting a whiff of the new cooperation between New Delhi and Tel Aviv just a week before the launch.
The Israeli media, which has had access to more information than given out by the government here, has pointed out that the satellite was intended to spy on Iran and Syria. The government here has tried to give the strategic cooperation a “commercialâ€
Who is this guy KP Nayar?
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1080122/j ... 810462.jsp
I personally got more than a dozen e-mails from my Hindu friends who distanced themselves from the statements made by Arun Ghandi but looks like Mr. Nayar above wants to have his pound of Jewish flesh. He even has the gall to attribute statements that were not made by the head of AJC.
Well, I guess you cannot get any better from Communists in Telegraph.
Avram
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1080122/j ... 810462.jsp
I personally got more than a dozen e-mails from my Hindu friends who distanced themselves from the statements made by Arun Ghandi but looks like Mr. Nayar above wants to have his pound of Jewish flesh. He even has the gall to attribute statements that were not made by the head of AJC.
Well, I guess you cannot get any better from Communists in Telegraph.
Avram
The delay in the launch of the Techstar satellite and US objections if any could be related to the technology contained in the satellite as it relates to its use by the US eventually and the implications of this technology passing through ISRO which until recently was a sanctioned entity. It would probably require a Presidential authorization to override it as seems to be indicated in the Deccan Chronicle posted by ramana.
Northrop Grumman congratulates Israel Aerospace Industries
Northrop Grumman congratulates Israel Aerospace Industries
January 22, 2008: 10:28 AM EST
REDONDO BEACH, Calif., Jan. 22 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Northrop Grumman Corporation congratulates Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) on the successful launch Monday of the TECSAR Satellite System. When fully operational, TECSAR will provide military users with a significant improvement in advanced imaging capabilities using synthetic aperture radar (SAR) technology.
In April 2007, Northrop Grumman and IAI initiated an exclusive teaming agreement to provide a responsive, cost-effective, space-based SAR capability to the U.S. government based on IAI's TECSAR multi-mode X-band radar imaging satellite. Known as Trinidad, the system will provide unique day/night and all-weather point and area collection capabilities. Trinidad can be manufactured in about 28 months and held in storage for launch on a 30-day call-up.
"We are confident that the high resolution imagery provided by Trinidad can become an important part of the U.S. inventory, providing global awareness," said Jeff D. Grant, vice president and general manager of the company's National Systems Division. "Northrop Grumman is ready to quickly deliver Trinidad to help the U.S. gain a more complete picture of the threats we face today on a global scale."
Northrop Grumman Corporation is a $31.5 billion global defense and technology company, whose 120,000 employees provide innovative systems, products, and solutions in information and services, electronics, aerospace and shipbuilding to government and commercial customers worldwide.
Next move for Hamas, is to break the Israeli Erez crossing and takeover Ashkelon with 500,000 palestinians.
The Egyptian forces have pulled their troops out because Hosni Mubarak is worried that if he kicks them out, he will face a massive backlash from the Muslim Brotherhood. As a result Hamas have sent their elite units to take up positions.
The US forces and multinational forces monitoring the ceasfire between Israel and Egypt in Northern Sinai have been evacuated.
Apparently, taking back this land which is almost twice the size of Gaza, will be close to impossible as Hamas has asked the 200,000 palestinians to stay there!
The Egyptian forces have pulled their troops out because Hosni Mubarak is worried that if he kicks them out, he will face a massive backlash from the Muslim Brotherhood. As a result Hamas have sent their elite units to take up positions.
The US forces and multinational forces monitoring the ceasfire between Israel and Egypt in Northern Sinai have been evacuated.
Apparently, taking back this land which is almost twice the size of Gaza, will be close to impossible as Hamas has asked the 200,000 palestinians to stay there!
Wow Shyamd, I had posted this in the Middle East thread...
ramana wrote:The Hamsization of Gaza will ultimately lead to the Qubtist Muslim Brotherhood taking over Egypt and like Humpty Dumpty there will be a great fall.
The history of the Middle East happens on a slow roll followed by a sudden tsunami that sweeps everything before it.
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Avram, I know you are aware that Hindus as a whole admire the Jewish people. As a Hindu, I feel ashamed of these sc&mbags... I feel a tremendous hatred towards these Commies as well.asprinzl wrote:Who is this guy KP Nayar?
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1080122/j ... 810462.jsp
I personally got more than a dozen e-mails from my Hindu friends who distanced themselves from the statements made by Arun Ghandi but looks like Mr. Nayar above wants to have his pound of Jewish flesh. He even has the gall to attribute statements that were not made by the head of AJC.
Well, I guess you cannot get any better from Communists in Telegraph.
Avram
I pray that some day, we Hindus can eliminate and crush all these hateful people who are against Narendra Modi, Israel, the BJP etc.
And believe me, they ARE all the same. The ones that hate Modi are the ones that hate Israel, and vice versa!
A firing squad should be compulsory for them.
Wait a minute. The Telegraph is not a Communist paper. Its owned by Amrita Bazar patrika group who are solid INC supporters.
BTW they provided translation for the hacked BARC server Bengali written in romani transcripts!
K.P. Nayar is not KulNash Nayar but a reputable journalist based in Washington DC.
I think the Indian secular folks who made this attack didnt understand the magnitude of their transgression. They were playing to gallery in India and got ambushed here.
This Arun Gandhi seems to have suffered from hubris. All that easy money for his Center in UTy of Rochester might have made him think he had a good thing going. In other words he believed his own rhetoric!
This is not something all Indian belive in. And rachel is suggest you dont let your disgust for Commies to cloud the issue.
BTW they provided translation for the hacked BARC server Bengali written in romani transcripts!
K.P. Nayar is not KulNash Nayar but a reputable journalist based in Washington DC.
I think the Indian secular folks who made this attack didnt understand the magnitude of their transgression. They were playing to gallery in India and got ambushed here.
This Arun Gandhi seems to have suffered from hubris. All that easy money for his Center in UTy of Rochester might have made him think he had a good thing going. In other words he believed his own rhetoric!
This is not something all Indian belive in. And rachel is suggest you dont let your disgust for Commies to cloud the issue.
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Indian Insensitivity in Launching Israeli's Satelites ?
This idiot writer should retract his statements or may be he is on commies/ Pakis pay roll. The Commies would sell India to China and to the Pak for "votes".
The launching of Israeli sattelite has nothing to do with Gaza blockede. India has to safe guard its own interest first, against back drop of other relationships. Where were theses commies and Muslim countries when in PAk and India war; all the Middle eastern Muslim nations supported Pak financially over India. Only country was neutral( even India did not reciprocate) was Israel.
Its an old saying " You don't perform " Home" ritual to burn your own hands", and "don't douge fire of other's house when your house is itself on fire, i.e douse your's first".
At this juncture security of India lies in good relations with Israel, where it can get the know how, for its key defense projects at reasonable prices. Which includes Missiles, Tanks, MMR or state of art cockpits for its aircrafts. Its business but it is also a two way traffic. You support me, I would support you.
DSingh.
The launching of Israeli sattelite has nothing to do with Gaza blockede. India has to safe guard its own interest first, against back drop of other relationships. Where were theses commies and Muslim countries when in PAk and India war; all the Middle eastern Muslim nations supported Pak financially over India. Only country was neutral( even India did not reciprocate) was Israel.
Its an old saying " You don't perform " Home" ritual to burn your own hands", and "don't douge fire of other's house when your house is itself on fire, i.e douse your's first".
At this juncture security of India lies in good relations with Israel, where it can get the know how, for its key defense projects at reasonable prices. Which includes Missiles, Tanks, MMR or state of art cockpits for its aircrafts. Its business but it is also a two way traffic. You support me, I would support you.
DSingh.
Hehehe 
Ramana saaar!
Suryaji, well put it this way, this is happenin in Egypt. Hosni is shitting himself and not reacting because the brotherhood is getting ready to launch massive demonstrations. Saud el Arab is supporting Hamas and calling for a possible arab summit in Sharm El Sheikh to raise some money. So Egypt's hands are tied really.
Now what can Israeel do? If they do enter into Sinai, these are 200,000 palestinian civilians, who are they going to kill or move? .... the civilians? The only thing they can do is chase Hamas. Can't get rid of the civilians unless it is well stage managed by press etc with Arab support to withdraw. What about the wider Islaamic world who have great support for Hamas?
Mate....in my view this move by Hamas is permanent. Welcome to the Hamas paradise of Greater Gaza!
Ramana saaar!Suryaji, well put it this way, this is happenin in Egypt. Hosni is shitting himself and not reacting because the brotherhood is getting ready to launch massive demonstrations. Saud el Arab is supporting Hamas and calling for a possible arab summit in Sharm El Sheikh to raise some money. So Egypt's hands are tied really.
Now what can Israeel do? If they do enter into Sinai, these are 200,000 palestinian civilians, who are they going to kill or move? .... the civilians? The only thing they can do is chase Hamas. Can't get rid of the civilians unless it is well stage managed by press etc with Arab support to withdraw. What about the wider Islaamic world who have great support for Hamas?
Mate....in my view this move by Hamas is permanent. Welcome to the Hamas paradise of Greater Gaza!
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haha, Arun the loser thinks he's still in India. In the hateful anti HIndu nation of India, anyone can insult or say anything against Hindus that they want, with no consequences...but in America, you try that BS against Jews, and you quickly find out what is unacceptable.ramana wrote:
I think the Indian secular folks who made this attack didnt understand the magnitude of their transgression. They were playing to gallery in India and got ambushed here.
This Arun Gandhi seems to have suffered from hubris. All that easy money for his Center in UTy of Rochester might have made him think he had a good thing going. In other words he believed his own rhetoric!
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Jews are not weak and powerless like us Hindus. Arun won't be 'tugging on superman's cape or spitting in the wind anymore' !!
hehheeeee hee I'm TICKLED pink over this.
January 23, 2008 - Spain PM reiterates support for Palestine National Authority
January 02, 2006 - HAMAS Targets Spain
January 02, 2006 - HAMAS Targets Spain
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Shyamd
Hamas can continue to gloat in its slum in Gaza
They will not break out towards any Israeli check point.
And if Israel sees heavy weapons come in Gaza - they will go in
civilians be damned
I know it will make you feel unhappy
but rest assure the Israelis are not going to whimper away in the night.
Hamas can continue to gloat in its slum in Gaza
They will not break out towards any Israeli check point.
And if Israel sees heavy weapons come in Gaza - they will go in
civilians be damned
I know it will make you feel unhappy
but rest assure the Israelis are not going to whimper away in the night.
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Ny Times
President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt considered his options. But Egyptian officials made it clear on Thursday that while Egypt would not hinder Palestinians seeking food and other goods, it would not accept a lawless border, open to arms traffic and unregulated travel of gunmen and political extremists.
Gen. Ahmed Abdel Hamid, the governor of northern Sinai, estimated that as many as 120,000 Palestinians were in Egypt, but he said they were not being allowed to travel beyond El Arish, which lies slightly west of Rafah. He said he thought the border might stay open for another “four or five daysâ€
President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt considered his options. But Egyptian officials made it clear on Thursday that while Egypt would not hinder Palestinians seeking food and other goods, it would not accept a lawless border, open to arms traffic and unregulated travel of gunmen and political extremists.
Gen. Ahmed Abdel Hamid, the governor of northern Sinai, estimated that as many as 120,000 Palestinians were in Egypt, but he said they were not being allowed to travel beyond El Arish, which lies slightly west of Rafah. He said he thought the border might stay open for another “four or five daysâ€
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The use of (excessive) violence and terror as political weapons are inferior and will give much inferior results to the clever use of Psy-ops, media and even the semi-organized vox populi, which are incredibly powerful weapons. Apart from the strength of the economy and the military, the foundation of a modern great power will be built on the soft power elements.rachel wrote:Avram, I know you are aware that Hindus as a whole admire the Jewish people. As a Hindu, I feel ashamed of these sc&mbags... I feel a tremendous hatred towards these Commies as well.asprinzl wrote:Who is this guy KP Nayar?
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1080122/j ... 810462.jsp
I personally got more than a dozen e-mails from my Hindu friends who distanced themselves from the statements made by Arun Ghandi but looks like Mr. Nayar above wants to have his pound of Jewish flesh. He even has the gall to attribute statements that were not made by the head of AJC.
Well, I guess you cannot get any better from Communists in Telegraph.
Avram
I pray that some day, we Hindus can eliminate and crush all these hateful people who are against Narendra Modi, Israel, the BJP etc.
And believe me, they ARE all the same. The ones that hate Modi are the ones that hate Israel, and vice versa!
A firing squad should be compulsory for them.
Hope so. Right now it is just a threat. Don't underestimate Hamas.Surya wrote:Shyamd
They will not break out towards any Israeli check point.
What you mean by heavy weapons? Hell they have extended rockets, ready to target the whole of south Israel being readied. Israel is currently paying a heavy price for not acting in Gaza earlier. Right now they are just playing defensive battles. The Israeli's have not removed rocket factories that are located in Hamas strongholds (in civilian areas). After they remove Hamas, then what? Install the PA, who have israeli blood on their hands aswell? These are questions that need to be answered. The PA is begging Israel to give them back power in Gaza. The people democratically elected Hamas.And if Israel sees heavy weapons come in Gaza - they will go in
Hamas is prepared and is expecting Israeli's to come. But at the same time they want to stay in power in Gaza, hence why they want negotiations for a limited ceasefire. They have a battle ready for them. Read my previous analysis on their war preparations. Israel is going to have one hell of a battle.
My point was how can you push a bunch of people in tents back into Gaza? especially when you are in foreign soil.civilians be damned
I know it will make you feel unhappy
but rest assure the Israelis are not going to whimper away in the night.
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This is a dramatic and significant development, for better or (probably) worse:
[quote]January 26, 2008
Egypt’s Efforts to Restore Border Falter
By STEVEN ERLANGER
GAZA — Egypt moved to restore its border with Gaza on Friday, stationing border guards and riot police officers to try to block Palestinians from entering. But Palestinians used a bulldozer to knock down another portion of the wall, originally built by Israel just inside Gaza, to continue their shopping spree.
The Egyptians announced on loudspeakers that the border would be closed at various times of the day on Friday, but allowed Palestinians who were inside Egypt to return to Gaza laden with goods, even as cranes lifted pallets of supplies over another part of the border barricade. The border barrier on the Egyptian side is a low concrete wall topped with barbed wire.
There were small clashes throughout the day, with short episodes of rock-throwing. Egyptians fired guns into the air and aimed water cannons above the heads of the those in the crowd to keep them back. The new breaches in the wall were large enough for cars and trucks to drive through, and some Egyptian guards then retreated.
Egypt is under pressure from Israel and the United States to restore the international border and regulate it, but does not want to use excessive force against the Gazans, whom the Egyptian president, Hosni Mubarak, has insisted are starving under the pressure of Israeli restrictions on imports and travel.
But often in the past, Egypt has used force, ranging from water cannons to automatic-rifle fire, against Palestinians who have breached the border, and the government will be calculating when its effort to respond generously to a crisis veers into instability or chaos. Nor does Egypt want responsibility for serving the population of Gaza, removing the burden from Israel.
Hamas is trying to push Egypt into an agreement to regulate the border without having it sealed completely, as it had been from the time Hamas routed Fatah and took over Gaza in early June. A Hamas spokesman, Sami Abu Zuhri, said, “The gaps shouldn’t be closed because they provide urgent assistance to the Palestinians.â€
[quote]January 26, 2008
Egypt’s Efforts to Restore Border Falter
By STEVEN ERLANGER
GAZA — Egypt moved to restore its border with Gaza on Friday, stationing border guards and riot police officers to try to block Palestinians from entering. But Palestinians used a bulldozer to knock down another portion of the wall, originally built by Israel just inside Gaza, to continue their shopping spree.
The Egyptians announced on loudspeakers that the border would be closed at various times of the day on Friday, but allowed Palestinians who were inside Egypt to return to Gaza laden with goods, even as cranes lifted pallets of supplies over another part of the border barricade. The border barrier on the Egyptian side is a low concrete wall topped with barbed wire.
There were small clashes throughout the day, with short episodes of rock-throwing. Egyptians fired guns into the air and aimed water cannons above the heads of the those in the crowd to keep them back. The new breaches in the wall were large enough for cars and trucks to drive through, and some Egyptian guards then retreated.
Egypt is under pressure from Israel and the United States to restore the international border and regulate it, but does not want to use excessive force against the Gazans, whom the Egyptian president, Hosni Mubarak, has insisted are starving under the pressure of Israeli restrictions on imports and travel.
But often in the past, Egypt has used force, ranging from water cannons to automatic-rifle fire, against Palestinians who have breached the border, and the government will be calculating when its effort to respond generously to a crisis veers into instability or chaos. Nor does Egypt want responsibility for serving the population of Gaza, removing the burden from Israel.
Hamas is trying to push Egypt into an agreement to regulate the border without having it sealed completely, as it had been from the time Hamas routed Fatah and took over Gaza in early June. A Hamas spokesman, Sami Abu Zuhri, said, “The gaps shouldn’t be closed because they provide urgent assistance to the Palestinians.â€
The Palestinian lying machine : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_B1H-1opys
Shyam
you changed the scope.
You first said to watch out for a breakout from the Israel checkpoint.
and I am saying that will not happen.
Heavy weapons - meaning something more than the unguided home made rockets they are tossing right now.
Yeah the Israelis know what awaits them in Gaza and they have practiced too.
Israelis have always lived with a bad choice and a worst choice and they will deal with it.
you changed the scope.
You first said to watch out for a breakout from the Israel checkpoint.
and I am saying that will not happen.
Heavy weapons - meaning something more than the unguided home made rockets they are tossing right now.
Yeah the Israelis know what awaits them in Gaza and they have practiced too.
Israelis have always lived with a bad choice and a worst choice and they will deal with it.
Gola tries his best to hook up with the Israelis but they remind him of Iran.
A chance meeting: Pakistan
[quote]The Foreign Ministry said on Monday it was “unawareâ€
A chance meeting: Pakistan
[quote]The Foreign Ministry said on Monday it was “unawareâ€
Cross posted from the Travel abroad thread
Part 2
The shrill sound of the alarm jarred me awake. Where is my weekend??? Reluctantly, I got out of bed and went through the morning rituals. It is strange to get ready, in a foreign land with an Indian channel blaring. Was met by my company car. The Northern part of Israel has a number of Industrial parks and they are pretty flung out. Most companies have mini vans and cars to pick up the employees from various parts. Our car picked up from Nahariya and Maalot. Was greeted with a 'Bakhurtov' (Good Morning ) in Hebrew.
I got in and introduced myself to the other folks. We pulled out of Nahariya, heading down towards Akko. All along the route you see bus stops with folks waiting. Amongst them one or two Israeli Army troopers (men and women) returning after their weekend pass. M 16s slung (clip unloaded) they tried to get any transport back. An Israeli soldier thumbing for a ride, is a common sight in Israel. Not too many seemed to get lucky.
At the junction to Akko(Akko,Accra,Accre - all the same), we turned left heading towards Maalot. The land on either side of the road was reddish brown, stony and dry. Yet everywhere were orchards of olive trees. Small towns and villages pass by, a couple of them with mosques. The road starts to climb with the flora turning distinctly Mediterranean - pine trees, weather noticeably cooler.
It was pleasant as we wound past Maalot and further up to the industrial park. The road would continue further eastwards, winding down towards the Galilee. But that would be for another day.
Signs in Israel are predominantly in Hebrew although road signs are generally in Hebrew, Arabic and English. Hebrew too is read right to left and it takes a little while to get the instinctive tendency to try and figure it out from left to right. Introduced myself to the office folks. Roughly half of them were migrants from the former Soviet Union. Hebrew and Russian conversations echoed in the kitchen as the Israelis got off to a slow start with coffee and cookies. Someone had returned from vacation from Europe and got more chocolates. Israelis have a tremendous urge to travel. The smallness of their country is frustrating and so you will see hordes of them travel to Europe, South America and India. Someone else asked me "so how was the famous Israeli breakfast?â€
Part 2
The shrill sound of the alarm jarred me awake. Where is my weekend??? Reluctantly, I got out of bed and went through the morning rituals. It is strange to get ready, in a foreign land with an Indian channel blaring. Was met by my company car. The Northern part of Israel has a number of Industrial parks and they are pretty flung out. Most companies have mini vans and cars to pick up the employees from various parts. Our car picked up from Nahariya and Maalot. Was greeted with a 'Bakhurtov' (Good Morning ) in Hebrew.
I got in and introduced myself to the other folks. We pulled out of Nahariya, heading down towards Akko. All along the route you see bus stops with folks waiting. Amongst them one or two Israeli Army troopers (men and women) returning after their weekend pass. M 16s slung (clip unloaded) they tried to get any transport back. An Israeli soldier thumbing for a ride, is a common sight in Israel. Not too many seemed to get lucky.
At the junction to Akko(Akko,Accra,Accre - all the same), we turned left heading towards Maalot. The land on either side of the road was reddish brown, stony and dry. Yet everywhere were orchards of olive trees. Small towns and villages pass by, a couple of them with mosques. The road starts to climb with the flora turning distinctly Mediterranean - pine trees, weather noticeably cooler.
It was pleasant as we wound past Maalot and further up to the industrial park. The road would continue further eastwards, winding down towards the Galilee. But that would be for another day.
Signs in Israel are predominantly in Hebrew although road signs are generally in Hebrew, Arabic and English. Hebrew too is read right to left and it takes a little while to get the instinctive tendency to try and figure it out from left to right. Introduced myself to the office folks. Roughly half of them were migrants from the former Soviet Union. Hebrew and Russian conversations echoed in the kitchen as the Israelis got off to a slow start with coffee and cookies. Someone had returned from vacation from Europe and got more chocolates. Israelis have a tremendous urge to travel. The smallness of their country is frustrating and so you will see hordes of them travel to Europe, South America and India. Someone else asked me "so how was the famous Israeli breakfast?â€