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Re: India-Australia News and Discussion

Posted: 27 Nov 2017 23:38
by chetak
The australian position is conflicted.

On the one hand, they have willingly embraced the chinese in terms of economics and the chinese have considerable influence on aussie institutions and on the other hand, the aussies have always fancied themselves as not being any part of the asian setup and identify more with the europeans and are heavily influenced by the americans.

this quad business is entirely a sham. They are not our friends or even well wishers

Re: India-Australia News and Discussion

Posted: 28 Nov 2017 13:55
by prahaar
+101, Australian (and Japanese) vote during ICJ elections is a clear indicator of their priorities. Australia is NATO's aircraft carrier in Asia, they will shoot at the target(s) designated by ANZUS neta.

Re: India-Australia News and Discussion

Posted: 28 Nov 2017 19:15
by periaswamy
As of now, everything is on paper. I think we have to see how this can evolve, but clearly Australia's left-wing parties are beholden to china. Japan has demonstrated that it wants to challenge chinese military hegemony -- the ICJ vote is inconsequential, since the ICJ and the UN are themselves of little consequence.

Re: India-Australia News and Discussion

Posted: 03 Dec 2017 10:34
by periaswamy
Australian Senator warned PLA/CCP linked donor to Australian Labor party that his phone was being tapped by Aussie government

Labour party in Australia appears to be bought and paid for by the CCP/PLA.

"This comes at a time when members and senators are under intense scrutiny over whether they hold dual citizenship. Of the 226 Australians elected at the 2016 federal election, the person whose allegiance to Australia is most in question is Sam Dastyari," Mr Brandis said.

The Mosman meeting occurred more than a month after media reports in early September last year that ASIO's top spy, Duncan Lewis, had warned Labor "that some of their donors had strong links to the Chinese Government".

Re: India-Australia News and Discussion

Posted: 07 Dec 2017 01:03
by periaswamy
Australia fixes election contribution laws

While this reduces chinese money in Australian elections, it does not preclude chinese interests in australia to fund the labour party politicians -- that is the next route the Chinese will explore through the wealthy Chinese expats in Australia. Still does not take away from the possibility of Australia swinging towards china down the line with a labour govt. in charge even as it is part of some security grouping.

Re: India-Australia News and Discussion

Posted: 07 Dec 2017 01:32
by ramana
chetak wrote:The australian position is conflicted.

On the one hand, they have willingly embraced the chinese in terms of economics and the chinese have considerable influence on aussie institutions and on the other hand, the aussies have always fancied themselves as not being any part of the asian setup and identify more with the europeans and are heavily influenced by the americans.

this quad business is entirely a sham. They are not our friends or even well wishers


+ 108 on this conclusion.

Olaf Caroe in his books had created a map of seven circles of power which is sort of geopolitical groupings way back in 1945.
In that map he puts India and Australia in one of the groups.

Lt. Gen Cawthrone at that time the British Military Intelligence chief, later PAK ISI founder and finally Australia SIS was one of those study circle members.

Ever since then, Australia sees India as a rival and a threat.

So hell will freeze and China will take over Australia but they will always see India as a threat.

If you recall they dropped sonobuoys to get INS Mysore sonar signature while it was returning from a good will visit to Pacific region.

Normally its an act of war but as usual toothless India let them go.
So I don't trust Australia.

I might trust Canada but not Aussies and New Zealand.
Too much bile.

Re: India-Australia News and Discussion

Posted: 07 Dec 2017 10:01
by chetak
ramana wrote:
chetak wrote:The australian position is conflicted.

On the one hand, they have willingly embraced the chinese in terms of economics and the chinese have considerable influence on aussie institutions and on the other hand, the aussies have always fancied themselves as not being any part of the asian setup and identify more with the europeans and are heavily influenced by the americans.

this quad business is entirely a sham. They are not our friends or even well wishers


+ 108 on this conclusion.

Olaf Caroe in his books had created a map of seven circles of power which is sort of geopolitical groupings way back in 1945.
In that map he puts India and Australia in one of the groups.

Lt. Gen Cawthrone at that time the British Military Intelligence chief, later PAK ISI founder and finally Australia SIS was one of those study circle members.

Ever since then, Australia sees India as a rival and a threat.

So hell will freeze and China will take over Australia but they will always see India as a threat.

If you recall they dropped sonobuoys to get INS Mysore sonar signature while it was returning from a good will visit to Pacific region.

Normally its an act of war but as usual toothless India let them go.
So I don't trust Australia.

I might trust Canada but not Aussies and New Zealand.
Too much bile.


Those and other aussie sonobouys that the aussies dropped to pickup signatures of Indian ships would be conspicuously marked " From australia to russia with love, (through India) :lol:

They have always been a bunch of colonial poseurs.

Re: India-Australia News and Discussion

Posted: 13 Dec 2017 06:23
by Vips
India, Australia hold talks on Indo-Pacific dynamics.

India and Australia on Tuesday held their first ever dialogue involving defence and foreign secretaries, to discuss ways to ensure a “free” and “open” Indo-Pacific region, an Indian government statement said.

The India-Australia “2+2” dialogue comes almost exactly a month after officials of the two countries joined their counterparts from Japan and the US for talks also focussed on the Indo-Pacific region against the backdrop of a rising China.

It also comes a day after the Russia-India-China (RIC) meeting in New Delhi to boost collaboration in the Asia-Pacific region, where the three countries agreed to broaden their consultations.

India has a “2+2” dialogue with very few countries—Japan and South Korea being two examples. New Delhi and Washington are slated to hold a “2+2” dialogue between their ministers of foreign affairs and defence and secretaries of state and defence early next year.

According to an Indian foreign ministry statement, foreign secretary S. Jaishankar and defence secretary Sanjay Mitra sat down with their Australian counterparts, secretary of the department of foreign affairs and trade Frances Adamson and secretary of the department of defence Greg Moriarty.

“All aspects of bilateral relations with a focus on strategic and defence relations between the two countries were reviewed,” the statement said.

“India and Australia share warm bilateral relations based on shared democratic values and pluralism. There is a growing convergence of strategic perspectives between the two countries,” it said.

“Both sides agreed that a free, open, prosperous and inclusive Indo-Pacific region serves the long-term interests of all countries in the region and of the world at large,” it added.

India and Australia were two members of the four-nation “quad” of major democracies in the Indo-Pacific region —also regarded as the possible nucleus of a probable new security architecture in Asia—that met in Manila last month on the margins of the East Asia Summit. The four countries are expected to come together for naval drills in the near future.

India conducts the Malabar naval exercises with the US and last year it was expanded to include Japan. Australia—which was part of the Malabar exercises in 2007—could rejoin the drill next year.

The exchanges come as the geostrategic term “Indo-Pacific” as opposed to “Asia-Pacific” has been gaining currency, thanks to increased use by US administration officials to refer to a large swathe of sea and land stretching from the US Pacific coast to Australia and beyond to India.

US secretary of state Rex Tillerson made several references to the “Indo-Pacific region” in a speech at a think tank in Washington in October.

And days later, Japanese foreign minister Taro Kono said that Tokyo favoured a dialogue between Japan, the US, India and Australia to boost strategic partnership among these countries. More recently, US President Donald Trump referred to the term several times when he spoke to a group of business representatives from the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) grouping in Da Nang in Vietnam.

China has been warily eyeing the “quadrilateral exchanges” while stating its hope that the group and its actions were not directed against Beijing.

Re: India-Australia News and Discussion

Posted: 13 Mar 2018 19:27
by Vips
The secret to Australia avoiding recession: Mass immigration from India, China.

This is the real aukaat of the nation of former UK Convicts today. Indians should make the Australians aware of this every them to try to show their Pakiness.

Re: India-Australia News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Mar 2018 17:13
by Paul
Ramana, the wells of power or circles that Caroe came up with may have its roots in the Manadalas of geopolitics propounded by Kautilya amongst others.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandala_(political_model)

Re: India-Australia News and Discussion

Posted: 25 Mar 2018 06:41
by UlanBatori
For those of us who were brought up watching the double standards of the western-dominated "competitions", this comes particulary hilarious. IMO an England-Australia or South Africa- Australia cricket series is a wonderful spectacle that sets new lows in behavior of the savage carnivorour predators, but this is a classic even by those standards.

Apologies in advance to all Australia fans at this forum, I too admire(d) several Australians. But this is a long wait in the coming. Particularly the guy getting caught red-handed using sandpaper tape to rough up the ball, and when the umpire looks at him, he DROPS IT DOWN INTO HIS KNICKERS - and is caught doing that on big-screen TV!!It doesn't get better than this.

Now he must have red balls to match his red face.

Move over, Pakis.

Re: India-Australia News and Discussion

Posted: 25 Mar 2018 06:46
by Atmavik
UlanBatori wrote:For those of us who were brought up watching the double standards of the western-dominated "competitions", this comes particulary hilarious. IMO an England-Australia or South Africa- Australia cricket series is a wonderful spectacle that sets new lows in behavior of the savage carnivorour predators, but this is a classic even by those standards.

Apologies in advance to all Australia fans at this forum, I too admire(d) several Australians. But this is a long wait in the coming. Particularly the guy getting caught red-handed using sandpaper tape to rough up the ball, and when the umpire looks at him, he DROPS IT DOWN INTO HIS KNICKERS - and is caught doing that on big-screen TV!!It doesn't get better than this.

Now he must have red balls to match his red face.

Move over, Pakis.


Brain Fade 2.0

Re: India-Australia News and Discussion

Posted: 25 Mar 2018 07:59
by UlanBatori
Buggers had to come on TV and confess that it was a "leadership decision" to cheat. Harbhajan Singh is in danger of hurting himself today, ROTFL. Thing is, despite the evidence glaring them on TV, the umpire-Pakis did not even award 5 runs as penalty!!! Remember what happened to the poor Pakis, courtesy of the racist umpiah in Britpakistan? This fellow hid a sand-studded tape between his fingers - that was certainly not spur-of-the-moment, it was what he has trained to do all career. Sarfraz Nawaz said the original Reberj Shwing used beer-bottle caps to scratch the ball.

Reminds me of the old definition of Basta*d:
One who stands around scratching his bal*s in church while his parents are getting married.


:mrgreen: Here the fellow was standing around scratching his balls in plain view of 80,000 ppl.

Re: India-Australia News and Discussion

Posted: 25 Mar 2018 19:32
by disha
The tampering video was aured outright., umpire should have made the ball-scratcher drop his pants!

Wait, yhe southern white-bakis have no-balls!

Re: India-Australia News and Discussion

Posted: 25 Mar 2018 20:29
by JE Menon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3jQgD9RTqE

Good youtube clip including reports from several channels. The whole thing is hilariously idiotic and genetically consistent.

Re: India-Australia News and Discussion

Posted: 25 Mar 2018 20:34
by chetak
Truly, the game of cricket is played with red balls and the aussies have irrefutable proof of it.

Shameless buggers. Sandpaper down the knickers, indeed!!.

Confess and prostrate abjectly only when caught red handed otherwise slander, sledge and abuse.

Clearly, their convict genes are still dominant.

Re: India-Australia News and Discussion

Posted: 25 Mar 2018 22:31
by Suresh S
This cheating episode confirms what me and others on this board have been saying for yrs.This is not just about cricket . This episode has done terrible damage to Australia the country. ICC has not learned anything from this and they won,t. This racist attitude ingrained in the bug*ers, one test ban for this kind of behaviour is nothing but a slap on the wrist. Every organisation under the thumb of these western Europeans whether it is World bank, IMF, United nations, WADA, IOC, Rating agencies or their "News Networks"are nothing but peddlers of lies . A culture truly based on hypocracy and lies and racism of the worst kind.India should get out of ICC and take control of cricket, of course without these Shukla,s and other cheats.

Before some Indian defender of these Goras jumps and says hum bhe to karte hain.The corruption in India is nothing to be proud of, but it is a result of damage to our economy and more importantly our culture by a thousand yrs of occupation.Ancient India was never known for thievery and lies. The foundation of Indian culture is very strong and corruption in India will correct itself over time, I am very sure. Of course all of us will continously have to try.

Re: India-Australia News and Discussion

Posted: 25 Mar 2018 23:24
by UlanBatori
AoA! Begging the adminullah's indul-gentj but this is too good to not report. So Bancroft came out to bat as opener again. Numbers refer to Over.ball
0.2 Rabada to Bancroft, no run, didn't take long, did it? The crowd are booing Bancroft. He's been knocked around the mid riff region before the ball deflected off his pad. Inswinger..
0.3 Rabada to Bancroft, 2 runs, it's getting more intense, the battle. Another delivery that moves in sharply and snicks Bancroft's inside edge on the push, his bat face turned on impact and guess that was too hot to handle for the Western Australian.
3.1 Philander to Warner, no run, short and climbs into Warner's ribcage, he hops and drops it dead in the vicinity.
4.1 Rabada to Bancroft, no run, hit on the elbow, bam! Bancroft doesn't read the swing on this, plays much sooner than he should have, the delivery tails back in, past the inside edge and clattttter on the flesh. Ouch!
4.4 Rabada to Bancroft, no run, smashed in the groin! Bancroft's wobbled and it is showing in the way his feet are moving. Doesn't get anywhere in-line with this inswiger and takes a blow. Tough times {he might need that tape on his b**s after all!}
5.1 They get three, but unfortunately the throw from the fielder smacks Bancroft on his back (while completing the third run). Not intentional though
9.4 Morne Morkel to Warner, no run, extra bounce once again, lands short of length and goes onto crack Warner on the thigh
11.2 Morne Morkel to Bancroft, no run, nips the ball back in off a length, Bancroft plays outside the line and gets struck around the groin, past his inside edge and wham!
20.1 ...And look at the boooos from the crowd as Bancroft makes his walk back to the dressing room. ..Warner drives it to the right of cover, .. Bancroft hesitated and had no choice but to listen to his senior partner. Ends up sacrificing his wicket. Bancroft run out (du Plessis) 26


And he got 3 Demerits, which was an easy let-off by ICC, but I think CA bozos are going to unload on him too. From 58 for no loss, AusPakis crashed to 107 all out, and a 322-run defeat.

A day to remember, whether he wants to or not.

Re: India-Australia News and Discussion

Posted: 26 Mar 2018 01:41
by Philip
"Great white cheats".
Greg Chappel...In famous underarm ball against NZ.
("Aussies have an underarm problem", jibe from NZ!)
Shane Warne and others, caught betting on their matches.
( hushed up by the Oz. board)
John Lever....Infamous " vaseline " test at Madras.
(Used vaseline on the old ball to make it swing.He had done the same at the prev. test at Delhi and got 7 or 8 wkts with the old ball and Eng. won. Bedi called him a cheat and spoke about the Delhi test and the English pilloried him for saying so.Made fun of him in a cartoon as a Sikh bus conductor applying vaseline to the floorboard of the double-decker bus for passengers to slip!)
Hansie Cronje of S.Africa-perhaps the most infamous incident of all until this Oz.cheating scandal.Involved in match fixing.
Pakis fixing matches par for the course.They acknowledged it when caught out.
Some Indian counterparts like Azhar etc. disgraced us too.

The most stringent penalties must be dished out.Ban for sev. matches for the entire gang involved for cheating, as in football.Lifetime bans for repeat offenders.

Re: India-Australia News and Discussion

Posted: 26 Mar 2018 06:13
by SaiK
disha wrote:The tampering video was aured outright., umpire should have made the ball-scratcher drop his pants!

Wait, yhe southern white-bakis have no-balls!

Ye mean the sand-paper should have worked well for all types of b@lls? :D

Re: India-Australia News and Discussion

Posted: 26 Mar 2018 22:17
by Supratik
How are the new Aussie visa rules going to affect Indian immigration?

Re: India-Australia News and Discussion

Posted: 26 Mar 2018 22:19
by sanjaykumar
They’re in. Indians have a propensity to adjust their balls in public too.

Re: India-Australia News and Discussion

Posted: 26 Mar 2018 23:21
by rsingh
sanjaykumar wrote:They’re in. Indians have a propensity to adjust their balls in public too.


Tandulkar, The great ( peace be upon him) was master of that art.........( checking balls in front of 1.5 billion people). It was his habit to check his missile protector after every delivery.

Re: India-Australia News and Discussion

Posted: 29 Mar 2018 02:03
by UlanBatori

Re: India-Australia News and Discussion

Posted: 16 Apr 2018 03:57
by Cosmo_R
"Yes, there is still radiation here,” Mr. Matthews said as he drove a minibus to the sites where the Australian and British governments dropped seven bombs between 1956 and 1963 which dotted the earth with huge craters and poisoned scores of indigenous people and their descendants."

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/15/worl ... v=top-news

Seems a bit strange that Oz which was so against India in 1998, had been involved as a nuke power testing its own

Re: India-Australia News and Discussion

Posted: 16 Apr 2018 07:11
by Singha
Consider them australian tests also as defacto umbrella extended by the auld country. That way very vfm move