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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby Neshant » 25 Apr 2015 22:57

Big earthquake in Nepal.

7.8 on the Richter scale.

India should send help.

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby Singha » 26 Apr 2015 00:12

Epicenter only 7 miles underground.

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby Shreeman » 26 Apr 2015 02:41

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Carolyn Priest
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Praying for the people of Nepal. The 10-40 window to share Jesus is opening greater than ever #sharethegospel

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby sanjaykumar » 26 Apr 2015 03:09

I see the Jesus ghouls are out.

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby Agnimitra » 26 Apr 2015 03:53

Wishing our Nepalese brothers succour in this time of need. One can contribute here:
http://www.sewabharathi.com/2015/04/sew ... quake.html

Please post other similar links.

OARN - I wonder if it is possible for the IA or other officially or unofficially affiliated bodies to move into Nepal for relief ops, and possibly never leave.


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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby Bade » 26 Apr 2015 05:16

Agnimitra wrote:Wishing our Nepalese brothers succour in this time of need. One can contribute here:
http://www.sewabharathi.com/2015/04/sew ... quake.html

Please post other similar links.

OARN - I wonder if it is possible for the IA or other officially or unofficially affiliated bodies to move into Nepal for relief ops, and possibly never leave.


Is India ready to go in with a $10+ billion aid for reconstruction and setting up institutions. Then maybe one can talk, even if there is resistance from some quarters there. Every destruction is an opportunity to re-build, is the current GoI game for it.

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby Muns » 26 Apr 2015 05:27

To counter the EJ's I've often read that the VHP does have some support in Nepal. Unable to find any local links though. Looks like VHP America site though has already started accepting donations. Need your support!

www.vhp-america.org

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby arshyam » 26 Apr 2015 07:11

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This is currently trending at the top on Twitter: #SoulVultures

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby arun » 26 Apr 2015 08:05

Our Nepal earthquake relief effort has been named “Operation Maitri”.

Check out our Ministry of Defence spokesperson Sitanshu Kar’s twitter account for news and pictures as the effort gains momentum:


Twitter Sitanshu Kar

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby Shreeman » 26 Apr 2015 08:15

These are the people akchually helping, look ONE MILLION DOLLARS!

Offers of aid:

The US is sending a disaster response team and has released an initial $1m (£0.7m) according to the US aid agency USAid
India has sent several aircraft, carrying medical supplies and a mobile hospital, as well as a 40-strong disaster response team, including rescuers with dogs
The UK is sending an eight-strong team of humanitarian experts
Pakistan is sending four C-130 aircraft carrying a 30-bed field hospital and army doctors and specialists; urban search-and-rescue teams equipped with radars and sniffer dogs; and food items, including 2,000 meals, 200 tents and 600 blankets
Norway has promised 30 million krone (£2.5m; $3.9m) in humanitarian assistance
Germany, Spain, France, Israel and the European Union are also pledging to send aid

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby UlanBatori » 26 Apr 2015 08:24

Spokesperson? More like TwitsPerson. But a great job!!!! Very effective use of social media. Makes up quite a lot for the backwardness of the TV/print media.

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby arun » 26 Apr 2015 08:35

arshyam wrote:
Shreeman wrote:Image


This is currently trending at the top on Twitter: #SoulVultures


SIFY has published an article on the Christist Evangelical Jihadi aka EvanJihadi effort to profit from the Nepal earth-quake disaster by converting victims to Christism titled “#SoulVultures: Missionary talk of 'converting' quake victims enrages Twitter":

Sify News

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby Shreeman » 26 Apr 2015 08:45

^^^ as long as we are ahead of twitter, thats ok, i suppoje.

edit -- 2000+ now.

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby Singha » 26 Apr 2015 10:25

unofficial estimates say around 65 people might have died in everest base camp alone, there could be other base camps of other mountains unaccounted for. along with the sherpa revolt and fight with foreigners over working conditions and risk, this effectively probably ends the rampant commercialization of mountaineering there for some time.

it might be better to leave the 8000ers alone to heal for 10 years.....enough people have trampled all over them even in winter in the quest for glory and new records. like an army of insignificant ants climbing up the back of a old elephant people climb and say they have 'conquered' these ancient gods who have lived for aeons indifferent to the rise and fall of empire.

----IBN----
Five MI-17 Helicopters of IAF deaprted from Gorakhpur for Kathmandu to provide relief operation at 5 AM on Sunday

Indian Railways dispatched some 100,000 bottles of 'Rail Neer' to quake-hit Nepal on Saturday night

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby Singha » 26 Apr 2015 10:31

Nepal truly needs to invest in better roads, link itself with our rail network from UP and Bihar if only as Spurs to suitable spots and invest in education and healthcare which remain the poorest in south asia.
a section of fat kats are probably scamming all the gains from the tourism and mountaineering industry and leaving scraps for the rest.
developing some hydro power and selling it to india might also gain revenue.

despite tall claims of tunneling under mt everest from tibet side to bring the fruits of shenzhen to kathmandu, there is really nothing much the cheen can or want to do to improve Nepal's poverty....there aint no shenzhen across the border for nepalis to go and work in.

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby Shreeman » 26 Apr 2015 10:47

Singha,

Where there is will, etc. There is nothing glorious on this side of the border. Recall that kashmir, seven sisters, pathetic AP rail/road. Nepal could be switzerland but it still wont get out out anywhere. Oncedust settles down, you can see the details.

Nepal gives cooks and bottle washers to the BPO/call center employees of the TFTAs. Status quo is quite powerful.

M Venkaiah Naidu @MVENKAIAHNAIDU · 1h 1 hour ago

My cook is from Nepal,lost his Father very sad and shocking the amount of devastation, should stand untied to help people of Nepal


Hon. minister bin urban development.

Except now is not the time.

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby Tuvaluan » 26 Apr 2015 10:59

A lot of Nepalis slave in Qatar and KSA and are treated like cattle -- clearly doing manual labour or other hard jobs. Talked to a couple of them on a flight to India....life is not pretty for them. Hordes of them die under extreme slave like conditions in Qatar and the lucky ones are being herded around by evangelical "human rights" groups from the USA (most of them are illiterate and appreciate the help provided, so I am not disparaging the groups helping them).

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby Shreeman » 26 Apr 2015 11:14

There might be a good time for "a serious charcha" when dust settles. But the AAPturds, jejusbhaiwadis, maoUnkleWadis and the rest wont allow it. Its a decent set of people being pillaged, and if this brings up a bit of dust in the long term to discomfort the rulers it might not be a bad thing.

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby nvishal » 26 Apr 2015 14:05

What is all this crap about christianity wrt the earthquake? You thought a proof was necessary to show a co-relation between natural disasters and evangelical missions?

Was this breaking news more important than a quake that has killed thousands?

Show some respect for the dead and stop aggregating the thoughts of jesus freaks. It's garbage.

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Death toll has crossed 2000.

Nepal earthquake: The history and why quakes happen in the Himalayas
Nepal has suffered four earthquakes of a magnitude greater than 6.0 in the past century

Despite being located on the boundary of two major tectonic plates, Nepal has suffered relatively few large earthquakes in recent history.

The junction of the India and Eurasia tectonic plates is the cause of earthquakes in the Himalayan region.

The Indian plate is moving north under the Eurasian plate at a rate of 45mm a year, in a process which is known as “thrust fault”.

US Geological Survey seismologist, Paul Earle, explains “this is what builds the Himalayan mountain range”.

It is this “thrust fault” which caused the latest devastating earthquake. The risk now is there will be deadly landslides, given the steep slopes across the region.

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby Shreeman » 26 Apr 2015 14:17

vishal,

And later no one will believe the respekted TFTA would act this way. Total pledged aid $6m. Of which $1m from the glorious world leader. On the ground? 62 chinese. What is there to collate.

First 48-72 hours are real important. And no one is digging beyond bhaktapur and kathmandu. Accept the outcome.

1. "Haiti" January 12, 2010 Haiti 100,000–316,000 7.0 Estimates vary from 316,000 (Haitian government) to 222,570 (UN OCHA estimate)[23] to 158,000 (Medicine, Conflict and Survival) to between 85,000 and 46,000 (report commissioned by USAID).[24][25]

2. Kashmir" October 8, 2005 Muzaffarabad, Pakistan 100,000[35] 7.6

3. "Tangshan" July 28, 1976 Hebei, China 242,769[16][17] 7.8

What do you think the 2000 represents? The inevitable is unavoidable. And accounting isnt disgusting, actions are. The great and powerful arent even picking up their own kids from their vacations.

Aftershocks will be MANY. For days and even weeks. 6+ this week ought to be considered normal.

This is nepal thread, the jesusWadi material belongs here. Take out your angst at them.

Disaster-niti is discussed elsewhere in the disaster thread. And there is a lot of money grabbing going on, so that cant be a clean account either.

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby Hari Seldon » 26 Apr 2015 15:14

From twitter:

TIMES NOW ‏@TimesNow 17m17 minutes ago
#NepalEarthquake IAF helicopters are flying almost non-stop since this morning: @SpokespersonMoD

TIMES NOW ‏@TimesNow 17m17 minutes ago
Nepalese Army pilots are also flying on board Indian helicopters to familiarise the Indian pilots with the terrain: @SpokespersonMoD

TIMES NOW ‏@TimesNow 4m4 minutes ago
In support of Nepalese Army, IAF has rescued 171 people in 21 sorties. IAF has deployed 4 MI 17 V5 & 2 MI 17 helicopters: @SpokespersonMoD

Meanwhile, Tush-ass Ghandi reveals class yet again...

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby vijaykarthik » 26 Apr 2015 16:25

nvishal wrote:What is all this crap about christianity wrt the earthquake? You thought a proof was necessary to show a co-relation between natural disasters and evangelical missions?

Was this breaking news more important than a quake that has killed thousands?

Show some respect for the dead and stop aggregating the thoughts of jesus freaks. It's garbage.

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Death toll has crossed 2000.



No. No. I had asked for EJ links earlier. Besides, its not as if what Shreeman is doing is all that wrong - its surely raising the just anger in you and me and at least helps in that. We could surely do something about it - like answer the call of Aginmitra and spare a few USD / EUR , INR etc etc or go help in doing service or at least help in ensuring that the EJ idiots dont win.

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Though it does seem like EJ isn't not the story and we should conc on Nepal tragedy, IMHO the Indian govt / UN etc are at that - its perhaps us more commoners who could thwart the EJ threat and we should take it upon ourselves to trash the idiots out and make them less mainstream. No?

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby LakshO » 26 Apr 2015 16:33

:?: What is a peeli chaddi? RSS? I know peeli is a colour but what colour? Yellow? I thought RSS cadre wear khaki shorts and I know saffron is kesar.

Hari Seldon wrote:Meanwhile, Tush-ass Ghandi reveals class yet again...
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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby Shreeman » 26 Apr 2015 17:01

Indian contingent is now 10 fixed wing + 10 rotary -- all types + civilian. It wont matter though, for this scale. There might be 100k wanting to get out in all. And a very difficult casualty count.

Also, Nepal has formally invited china. That means PLA now. That will complicate things later.

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby Shreeman » 26 Apr 2015 17:17

Guud:

Catholic Relief ‏@CatholicRelief 3m3 minutes ago

Update on our response to #NepalEarthquake: blankets, water, shelter are urgent needs. More: http://bit.ly/1PAaqPP


Baaad:

ShainaNC ‏@ShainaNC 1h1 hour ago

20000 RSS swayamsevaks goin to Nepal to assist in rescue-relief operations media won't report this @RSSorg @RSS_Org

Puneet Sharma ‏@puneetpossible 4h4 hours ago

4th batch of RSS volunteers left for Nepal for relief operations. These volunteers knows how to help nothing else.


Also a new C17:

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby Vriksh » 26 Apr 2015 17:36

That is a IL 76 not a C17

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby Varoon Shekhar » 26 Apr 2015 17:55

[quote="TonySoprano"]I visited Nepal recently and 99% of Nepalis hate Indians. Stupid buggers who get free education, India shou..."


This number is almost impossible to believe. Maybe, you encountered a bad crowd. What can be said about Nepal is that it lacks a self-aware, sophisticated political and intellectual culture, like India. There's not enough self-criticism, open debate on issues, different perspectives, mature self deprecation and so on. It's largely emotion and tribalism, tempered by the intrinsic inclusivity of Hindu theology. But that emotion and tribalism isn't necessarily anti-India, it could be based on the godfathers who instigate it. It can just as well be turned against any perceived "villain" of the day.

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby Shreeman » 26 Apr 2015 18:00

Vriksh wrote:That is a IL 76 not a C17


This is a running joke.

The tweets were/are all glorifying C17 and C130s as magical udan khatolas. Not disclosing the civilian craft, the fennecs, dhruvs, An32s, Il76s and Mi17s as doing anything. It was all: C17 and C130 best money ever spent, worth its weight in gold. Like they fly themselves and produce oxygen while doing so. So in sashtang pranaam to the TFTA technology, everything is a C17 now.

Flying to kathmandu was never a problem. The workhorses from punjab are still doing just as much as the hindon birds. And all are working only due to IAF pilots. So what gives with this utterly ridiculous puja of the names C17 and C130?

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby arun » 26 Apr 2015 20:17

X Posted from the “Christianity, Evangelism & its geopolitical impact” thread.

Nepal earthquake: US Pastor Tony Miano sparks outcry by suggesting Nepalis should not rebuild their 'pagan shrines' :

The Independent, UK

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby TSJones » 26 Apr 2015 22:43

Google exec killed by Nepal earthquake.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/google-ex ... nance.html

When you reach for the brass ring, you take your chances. RIP

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby shyamal » 26 Apr 2015 22:50

anyone has a list of organizations to donate?
Usually we donate to Bharat sevasram sangha for any disaster in India. But I don't know if they work in Nepal.

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby prahaar » 26 Apr 2015 22:55

shyamal wrote:anyone has a list of organizations to donate?
Usually we donate to Bharat sevasram sangha for any disaster in India. But I don't know if they work in Nepal.


Sewa International (registered in New Delhi) or PMNRF.

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby svinayak » 26 Apr 2015 23:00

shyamal wrote:anyone has a list of organizations to donate?
Usually we donate to Bharat sevasram sangha for any disaster in India. But I don't know if they work in Nepal.


http://nepaliblogger.com/news/strong-ea ... epal/7484/
http://www.sewausa.org/NepalEarthquakerelief
Nepal Disaster Relief Appeal
Sewa Supporters,
Text Box: To see a Video of the devastation caused by earthquake click hereIn the worst disaster to hit Nepal in the last 100 years, an earthquake measuring 7.9 on Richter scale has caused massive devastation in Kathmandu and the northwest region of Pokhara. The fury of nature in this Himalayan country has been so devastating and deadly, that the tremors flattened everything – revered ancient shrines, homes, apartment buildings, cars, and people. Preliminary estimate pegs the loss of life to be at 1000 at the moment. Fears are that the casualties may rise to 10,000 as rescue workers work their way through the debris. Triggered avalanches in the Himalayas point to casualties there.
In addition to the region encompassing Nepal, Northern districts of Bihar (Champaran region), Mithilanchal (districts Dharbhanga, Madhubani etc,), Patna district, Munger Division (south of Ganges), West Bengal, Eastern Uttar Pradesh and Sikkim.
In this moment of unspoken tragedy and human suffering, Sewa International appeals to everyone to open your hearts and wallets to help us serve these people under distress. The relief efforts will continue for weeks and months to come. Through its sister organization, Sewa International, Nepal, and its volunteers on ground, your contributions will reach the affected people directly to provide support.
Sewa has released $10,000 (ten thousand dollars) towards immediate relief. Donate generously at www.sewausa.org or call us at 708-USA-SEWA or email at info@sewausa.org.
To see a video of the devastation caused by the earthquake click here
I personally ask you to step forward and help the people of Nepal as they try to recover from this catastrophic event.
Thank you,
Sree Sreenath, President Sewa International
"We are obliged to know we are global citizens. Dis​as​ters remind us we are world citizens, whether we like it or not. " - Maya Angelou
About Sewa International USA:
Sewa International is a Hindu faith based nonprofit charity registered under the Internal Revenue Code 501(c)(3). Mission of Sewa is to serve humanity in distress, aid local communities, and promote volunteerism. Sewa volunteers across 38 chapters in 22 states performed more than 130,000 hours of community work in 2014.
Sewa runs disaster relief/rehabilitation projects such as Hurricane Katrina (2005), Super Storm Sandy (2012), Uttarakhand (2013); development projects in India, Sri Lanka, Peru, Guyana, and Kenya. In the US, community service projects include Family Services, Bhutanese Refugee Empowerment, and Diwali Food Drive. Yuwa for Sewa summer internships for youth, and, Get Inspired summer internships for high school and college students promote volunteerism among youth.

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby UlanBatori » 26 Apr 2015 23:28

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby shyamal » 26 Apr 2015 23:32

Our workplace will have the option to donate to the prime ministers relief fund(like for every other major disaster). So I will be donating there anyway.
I will look into Sewa and IDRF. Thanks.
Any other names? India based?

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Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion

Postby KJo » 26 Apr 2015 23:33

From past history, I am slightly wary of Nepal. They have earlier shown Paquish behavior of selling their loyalty and friendship to the highest bidders with unreasonable hate towards India.
If we help them, they might just take it, and then use "insufficient help" as a reason to hate us more.


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