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Re: Nepal News and discussion

Postby vsudhir » 28 Sep 2008 16:53

Rye wrote:It is not surprising that the maosis do not like the pageant, but the problem is if they turn around and allow the chinese to run such pageants -- Prachanda needs to suffer personally if he tries such cr@p on India -- living off India's largesse and generosity -- while working with the chinese to screw over India.


Huh?

Moi thinks with the dismantling of the 1950 treaty, at least officially in Nepal, India and PRC will become ==. Any Indian attempts to put pressure on nepal can backfire if in some fit the Maoists invite the Chinese to set up bases in Nepal. Already Prachanda's personal security is not the charge of the former RNA but of his private maoist militia. The PRC offered to beef up this squad further with PRC trained goons. Beauty pageants and such are one thing. The attack on majority indic culture of tolerance and accomodation is what concerns me more generally. Nepal may well be on its way to bvecoming another west bengal whose leaders care more about PRC's interests than India's.

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Re: Nepal News and discussion

Postby Rye » 28 Sep 2008 17:03

I am not sure any treaty should be rewritten until Nepal gets a new constitution -- NOTHING should be renegotiated until Prachanda and the rest of the Nepalis create their constitution. Allowing Prachanda to withdraw from the 1950 treaty without settling the Nepali constitution issue is fraught with peril. It is openly creating a vaccum for the chinese to fill -- Prachanda needs to be told that his visit to china first gave India all the signal it needed.

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Re: Nepal News and discussion

Postby satya » 28 Sep 2008 20:15

I am not sure any treaty should be rewritten until Nepal gets a new constitution -- NOTHING should be renegotiated until Prachanda and the rest of the Nepalis create their constitution. Allowing Prachanda to withdraw from the 1950 treaty without settling the Nepali constitution issue is fraught with peril. It is openly creating a vaccum for the chinese to fill -- Prachanda needs to be told that his visit to china first gave India all the signal it needed.


Rye

No one is in a hurry to re-negotiate the existing Indo-Nepal Friendship Treaty. It was a political move by Prachanda to placate his local audience and placing the blame on GoI (in doing so he's no different than past Nepalese leaders blaming India for everything tht's wrong under the sky ). His move was based on assumption tht GoI will resist this and he can play on this further but he was taken in surprise by Sh. Pranab Mukherjee who outwitted him by stating ' GoI is open to suggestions regarding Indo-Nepal Treaty '. No wonder , Prachanda was on backfoot during his recent trip to India.

So far Prachanda is on a honeymoon period as per Nepalese media but going by their tone , knives are already being sharpened waiting for right time . Nepalese are in no mood to give Prachanda and his comrades 5-10 years needed to bring in changes at the ground level and earlier than 5 years , there's no way that Maoists can do much even with financial assistance from PRC .
So far GoI's policy seems to be on right path but in coming days it needs to play a much more active role via credit lines to Nepalese Govt. to make sure tht Indian companies get most if not all the hydro-power generation contracts .This will be the litmus test for our MEA babus .

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Re: Nepal News and discussion

Postby renukb » 16 Oct 2008 18:31

Is India Nepal’s enemy?
http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=14778397

Bhaskar Roy, who retired recently as a senior government official with decades of national and international experience, is an expert on international relations and Indian strategic interests.

Nepal’s Prime Minister Pushpa Kamal Dahal, better known as Prachanda, assured New Delhi during his official visit to India September 14-18 that that his government would not play strategic games between India and China.

But his defence minister preached the opposite after returning from a visit to China in the last week of September. A elated Ram Bahadur Thapa Badal told the CPN (Maoist) periodical, The Janadisha Weekly aboutthe support China was prepared extend to Nepal in the military field.
Thapa is the ex-Deputy Commander of the Maoist People’s Liberation Army (PLA-M), and one of the leading voices from the CPN (M) demanding the PLA-M be absorbed into the Nepali Army (NA) en bloc.

Prachanda to take charge in Nepal on Monday

The Nepal Army, as well as other major political parties are opposed to this blatant attempt to politicize a professional force. In this context, Thapa also revealed that the Chinese People’s Liberation Army was interested in establishing a separate relationship with Maoist army.

Thapa, who is also the Maoists’ military strategist, visited China at the head of a three-member delegation which included a senior Nepali Army officer to witness the PLA’s “Warrior 2008” military exercise. He was invited by Chinese Defence Minister Gen. Li Guanglie who is also a member of the Chinese Communist Party’s (CCP)’s Politburo. On the face of it, there is nothing wrong with such exchanges between two sovereign nations. But, as Mao Zedong once said, one should “seek truth from facts”.
Some of the issues Thapa revealed in his interview are bound to ring some alarm bells in New Delhi. According to him, the “Chinese People’s Liberation Army wants to extend its relations with the Maoist PLA in Nepal. They maintained that China was ever committed to preserve Nepal’s territorial integrity”.

Prachanda sweeps Nepal PM poll

Expanding further on his interactions with Chinese leaders, Thapa explained the compatibility of Nepal’s (or specifically, the CPN-M’s) and China’s security policy, saying in the changed political context Nepal’s security policy was same as that of China’s in “one way or the other”.
Thapa, inadvertently or deliberately, revealed the core of his and his party Central Committee’s India policy on his return from China in the following words “Nepal’s international border is open from three sides, thus the anti-Nepal elements are entering into our country freely challenging our national security and threatening our territorial integrity”.
He did not have to say any more. India borders Nepal in the East, South and West, and India was thus a threat to Nepal’s security and territorial integrity. Thapa made it almost clear that he would like Nepal’s foreign policy and security initiatives vis-à-vis India conform to that of China’s.

Is Nepal’s Defence Minister Ram Bahadur Thapa Badal declaring India an enemy state?

China’s Nepal card

Two other corresponding developments in Nepal demand attention along with the Defence Minister’s exposition on India. A book “Jasoosiko Jaalo” (Network of Spies) written by a journalist Saroj Raj Adhikari, released on September 21, claims that India’s intelligence agency, RAW, has infiltrated every system of Nepal including the Nepali Army and the political system. Adhikari seems to have counted all RAW agents in Nepal, and arrived at a figure of 1,005. He also claimed that Nepal’s Presidential and Vice Presidential elections were influenced by RAW.

Earlier, an article in a Nepali newspaper alleged RAW as also controlling Prime Minister Prachanda. The message is very clear. Prachanda and CPN (M) second in command, Baburam Bhattarai, were warned not to shake hands with India. Both these gentlemen had studied in India at some point of time and continued maintain links.

A documentary film, “Greater Nepal – in Quest of Boundary” claims historically Darjeeling, Dehradun and some other places belonged to Nepal but was incorporated into India by the British in an unequal treaty of Sugauli with the East India Company.

Prachanda sworn-in as first Prime Minister of republic Nepal

There is only one other country, a neighbour of Nepal, which conjures history to claim territories of its neighbours.

Instigating Nepal to raise territorial issues with India is nothing new for China. During an official tour to Nepal in December, 1996, Nepalese sources say Chinese President Jiang Zemin advised close Nepalese friends that territorial sanctity is supreme for any nation and Nepal must pursue this supreme objective. Almost immediately after Jiang’s departure, Nepal raised the Kalapani issue with India.

More recently, a senior strategic advisor to the Chinese government had said China knew India planned to “Sikkimise” Nepal, but would not let that happen.

The difference between 1996 and 2008 is that while earlier China advised Nepal on such issues in confidential discussions, today they are coming out more arrogantly in the open. An earlier China’s Ambassador to Nepal had openly assured China’s commitment to Nepal’s territorial integrity as its own.
The Nepal News of September 24 quoted Chinese Ambassador Zhen Xianling as saying security was the main concern of China in its relations with neighbours. During Defence Minister Thapa’s visit, China announced a (NC) Rs.100 million military aid to Nepal. The co-relations cannot be ignored.

Nepal's last king bows out of palace

The Nepalese political parties are jubilant that China’s railway from Lhasa was to soon reach Nepal. The Chinese proclaim that the railway will help it to connect with it more closely with the rest of South Asia. Some Nepali politicians see it as an alternative to India for access to sea ports and greater economic interaction with China to counter “dependence” on India.

The railway line from Golmud to Lhasa, and from Lhasa to Nepal’s border is unlikely to transport only people and trade goods. The railway branches off to other destinations on India’s borders. The military component of this railway system in the future will be ignored by Nepal at its own risk.

It is evident that China is trying to build Nepal among a series of “Little Dragons” spewing fire at India. It used Pakistan’s post-partition visceral anti-Indianism to a remarkable effect to nail India down for decades. With India having broken out of these shackles, the Beijing hardliners are also concerned by the new thinking in Pakistan discarding the burdens of the partition, and the creation of Bangladesh.

But China is not going to give up on Pakistan. This portends a more disturbing possibility centered on Pakistan. The American factor needs to be taken into account here. A resurgence of Chinese influence in Bangladesh is also becoming evident.

Recent developments in Nepal, read along with Chinese strategic writings, suggest that China’s objective to push its operative boundary with India to Nepal is receiving considerable support from Nepal’s Maoists.

Defence Minister Thapa’s exposition to the media may not be as official as a statement to Nepal’s Constituent Assembly. But neither he nor the Maois- led government have retracted what Thapa said, and it can thus be considered an official position.

Prime Minister Pushpa Kamal Dahal and the Nepalese government must now publicly explain Defence Minister Thapa’s views on India, since it raises questions about Dahal’s official position on India. Dahal must act quickly to clarify whether he is in control, or whether he was just waltzing with India to flatter and deceive it.

The views expressed in the article are of the author’s and not of Sify.com

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Re: Nepal News and discussion

Postby Rye » 16 Oct 2008 18:34

Nepal is going to allow China to stir up trouble in India -- this can't be allowed to pass. The constitution needs to be written before China sinks its claws into Nepal any more than it already has.

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Re: Nepal News and discussion

Postby Avinash R » 17 Oct 2008 21:53

Nepal Maoists to drop Mao?
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1198988
Friday, October 17, 2008 20:31 IST

KATHMANDU: Twelve years ago Nepal's Maoist party launched an ambitious armed revolt against the monarchy, inspired by Mao Zedong's precept that "power grows out of the barrel of a gun", but now they are considering dropping the Chinese revolutionary leader - literally.

The Maoists began to call themselves the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) from 1994-95 after they split from the parent organisation - the Communist Party of Nepal (Unity Centre).

Now, the formerly underground party that returned to mainstream politics two years ago under the leadership of Pushpa Kamal Dahal "Prachanda", is considering removing the Maoist tag.

"In the past, there were several communist parties who donned tags like the Communist Party of Nepal-Unified Marxist Leninist and Communist Party of Nepal-Marxist Leninist to distinguish one party from another," Maoist Finance Minister and de facto deputy party chief Baburam Bhattarai said Friday.

"So, we also took the tag of Maoist. But now it has been proved that the Maoists are the number one party in Nepal. So we don't need any tags," he added.

Bhattarai was bombarded with questions by journalists when he arrived at the Tribhuvan International Airport following reports that during his sojourn in the US he had said that his party was considering removing the Maoist appendage.

"The issue will be discussed at the party's national convention," the minister said.

The Maoists' national convention will be held after a hiatus of nearly 10 years in Kathmandu from Nov 10, a key conference that is expected to make or mar the party.

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Re: Nepal News and discussion

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http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish ... 3885.shtml
Kathmandu, center of U.S. espionage in South Asia
By Wayne Madsen
Online Journal Contributing Writer

The new U.S. embassy in Kathmandu occupies the grounds of a former CIA safe house and operations center in the Nepali capital. The embassy, in the Maharajgunj district of Kathmandu, is a one-block long fortress-like structure and the subject of derision among the Nepali people. The embassy is built along Stalinesque architectural standards now common with new U.S. embassies around the world: stark, rectangular structures that convey the notion that the United States is an impenetrable fortress that is closed to the outside world.

A drive-by of the embassy did not afford the opportunity to take a photograph of the monolithic building because the embassy frontage is well protected by Nepali contract security personnel.

WMR has spoken to a number of informed Nepali and foreign sources who confirmed that espionage has been and is the number one priority of the American diplomatic mission in Nepal’s capital. The current U.S. ambassador is Nancy Powell, who one Nepali official described as “weird.” Powell has done nothing to convince the Bush administration to drop its designation of the Maoist Communist Party that now governs Nepal in a coalition with two other Communist parties, as a “terrorist organization.”

There is widespread belief among the intelligence community that the Bush administration may try to carry out another massacre like the one its helped to plan and carry out against the royal family in 2001. This time, former Maoist People’s Liberation Army (PLA) of Nepal is being disarmed with a plan to integrate it with the Nepali Army and Police. In the meantime, the PLA have been directed to containment camps supervised by the United Nations Mission in Nepal (UNMIN), which is now trying to slow the military integration process, as well as delaying the process of writing a new constitution for Nepal. The stalling action by the UN and UNMIN head Ian Martin, against the backdrop of the U.S.-Indian nuclear deal, may be a prelude for another coup in Nepal, one designed by the United States to destabilize a country that sits between China and the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) and the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (SAARC). In the event of a coup, the disarmed PLA ranks would be sitting ducks for a massacre similar to the bloody anti-Communist purge in Indonesia in the 1960s, carried out by the Indonesian government with the support of the CIA.

The new U.S. embassy was built without Nepali contractor assistance. Instead, the State Department contracted to have construction personnel brought in from Turkey, Kazakhstan, and Egypt, driving up labor costs because the foreign workers were housed in some of Kathmandu’s most expensive hotels.

The embassy is built on the grounds of the Brahma Cottage, a center for the operations of the CIA’s and State Department’s joint Surveillance Device Unit. The CIA contracted with Nepali contractors to carry out surveillance of the palace of the then-Prince Gyenendra and Nepal Police Headquarters. Gyanendra became King after the June 1, 2001, regicidal coup d’etat against the royal family, which saw Gyanendra accede to the throne. The Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) and its coalition partners later deposed Gyanendra and declared a new Federal Democratic Republic of Nepal.

The Brahma Cottage CIA center, which was next door to Gyanendra’s palace, was also used by the CIA to plan the regicide and coup d’etat with the assistance of former Nepali police officers and the cooperation of India’s Research and Analysis Wing (RAW). The old U.S. embassy was across the street from Brahma Cottage.

In September 2002, this editor wrote, “In the months leading up to the Nepali coup, the CIA established an office in the Maharajgunj District of Kathmandu, next door to the residence of Prince Gyanendra. Witnesses reoprtedly saw streams of Nepali police and military officials streaming into the offices. Other U.S. ‘civilians,’ said to be with private military contractor CIA fronts like MPRI, were also seen arriving at the offices. In the spring, a U.S. Special Operations Forces team arrived in Kathmandu on a secret exercise code-named Bailey Nightingale I. The cover for the exercise was said to be earthquake disaster training. But it now appears it had another disaster in mind. The military team was composed of U.S. psychological operations (PSYOPs) personnel adept at coming up with tales like the one about the Crown Prince murdering his family.”

Crown Prince Dipendra was reported to have shot his entire family in a pique of rage over a his choice of a bride. The BBC report of the incident exemplified the psyop used to spread the word about the Crown Prince killing his family: “The King and Queen of Nepal have been shot dead after the heir to the throne went on the rampage with a gun before turning it on himself. Eleven people died in the incident which started when Crown Prince Dipendra allegedly had a dispute with his mother over his choice of bride. King Birendra, Queen Aishwarya and Prince Niranjan were among the victims of the tragedy at the royal palace in Nepal’s capital, Kathmandu. The other victims included three of the King’s children, his two sisters and one more member of the family by marriage.” The report by the BBC, which increasingly acts as an echo chamber for British intelligence, was false.

However, a senior Nepali intelligence officer told WMR that Dipendra did not kill himself but was shot to death by a royal guard. There is reason to believe that Dipendra was the first person shot in the royal massacre.

The CIA’s involvement in Nepal’s covert operations is nothing new. From 1956 to 1962, the CIA ran a Tibetan exile Khampa guerrilla army that launched attacks within Tibet from bases in the small kingdom of Mustang, a principality in Nepal on the northern border with Tibet. After India lost its two wars with China in the early 1960s, the CIA reactivated its Tibetan guerrilla army to open a front against China, which was militarily supporting North Vietnam and the Vietcong, in Operation Shadow Circus.

In August 1974, the CIA ordered the liquidation of its last Tibetan guerrilla army leader Wangdu Gyatotsang and his men after Secretary of State Henry Kissinger began opening up to China and, in a Ribbentropian policy, began cutting loose U.S. allies in Southeast Asia and gave approval to India’s swallowing up of the Kingdom of Sikkim. According to intelligence sources, the CIA received the approval of the Dalai Lama in Dharamsala, India in using other Tibetan contractors to eliminate the last Tibetan guerrilla army. The CIA was more concerned about its secret operations in Mustang becoming public than in protecting its own guerrilla forces.

In 1987, the CIA’s station in Kathmandu oversaw the burglary of the German Democratic Republic’s embassy in Kathmandu. According to a Nepali intelligence official, among the items taken from the embassy were code books, encryption machines, and classified documents. The operation was carried out with the assistance of the First Secretary of the East German embassy and a Nepali police inspector. Both were spirited out of Nepal and given political asylum in the United States.

Documentarian Yoichi Shimatsu, in his film “Prayer Flags,” points out that the CIA continued to use Nepal as a base for its covert operations throughout the 1990s when it used the guise of installing seismographic and geological monitoring systems to place surveillance systems and sensors at high elevations in the Himalayas.

The new Maoist-led government of Nepal has told Mustang’s powerless and nominal king, Jigme Parwat Bista, that his small principality was being abolished, along with the other three small kingdoms of Salyan, Jajarkot, and Bajhang. However, Bista was not a supporter of the last king, Gyanendra, according to informed sources in Kathmandu. His kingdom’s past support for the CIA’s operations against China has resulted in “blowback” in his kingdom being abolished by Nepal’s Maoist government.

The CIA’s old Nepal proprietary airline, Fishtail Air, founded by a veteran of Camp Walker in Seoul, South Korea, still flies around Nepal.

Nepal also served as a terror nexus between individuals connected to the CIA in Kathmandu and the Dawood Ibrahim criminal syndicate that carried out the March 12, 1993 bombings of the Bombay Stock Exchange, Bombay hotels, cinemas, and shopping centers that killed over 300 people. The bombings were a reprisal for the destruction of the Babri Mosque at Ayodhya by Hindu extremists. Over two thousands Muslims, including women and children, were massacred by rampaging Hindus after the mosque’s destruction. Ibrahim is now believed to be hiding in Pakistan.

Currently, the U.S. embassy in Kathmandu continues to conduct covert operations against China, mostly through non-governmental organizations (NGOs) like the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) and Trace Foundation, a Tibetan support group run by Andrea Soros Colombel, and funded by her father, George Soros. The recent outbreak of violence in Tibet by pro-independence Tibetans was an attempt at fomenting yet another “colored themed” revolution by Soros, a one-time Hungarian Jewish Nazi and not the first Nazi to have an interest in the Himalayan region where swastika religious symbol is ubiquitous.

The Trace Foundation is working with one of the Buddhist Tantric sects that has the aim of revealing the Kalachakra prophecy, which predicts a final global war between the forces of good versus a future Islamic Mahdi. A Buddha-type figure is foreseen as returning as a new Messiah. This construct is similar to the neocon “Clash of Civilizations” that sees a final showdown between the West and Islam. The Trace Foundation is trying to co-opt the old messianic Buddhist tradition to unify major world religions to install a global government, according to a specialist who has followed Soros’ activities in Tibet and Nepal.

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Re: Nepal News and discussion

Postby Paul » 07 Nov 2008 04:26

Note No. 478
4-Nov-2008

NEPAL: PLA Integration Continues to be a Contentious Issue: Update No. 175

By Dr. S. Chandrasekharan.

The most critical factor confronting Prachanda’s government is the issue of integration/rehabilitation of PLA personnel. On this there are not only differences within the coalition partners, but also within the Maoist party itself. The opinion varies from total mass integration with the Nepalese Army, to selective integration and absorption in other para military units already existing or to be created for the specific purpose or total rehabilitation of all the personnel outside the army.

The mandate of UNMIN will also be over by the end of the year and before it leaves some decision has to be taken on the disposal of arms deposited by the PLA in the camps under the joint supervision of the UN and the PLA. The UN Secretary General who visited Kathmandu last week indicated that he would have no objection in extending the term if need be.

There are 32,250 Maoist cadres registered in 28 cantonments. Of these only 19,692 are eligible to be treated as combatants. The rest continue to be in the camps without any payment being made to them. In the final analysis, the government will also have to take the responsibility of these people also.

It is also known that quite a number of deserters of the Nepalese Army (estimated to be over 12,000) are also in the cantonments. The Army leadership has not talked about this and no body knows as to how many deserters are in the camps, but some decision will have to be taken on these people too.

With the increase in allowances by Rs 2000 to all the eligible personnel in the camps the economic condition of the PLA personnel has improved. Living conditions in the camps are also better now.

But the personnel in the camps with no work to do and with their future uncertain, cannot be allowed to languish indefinitely. Some quick decision will have to be taken on their rehabilitation and integration. The cantonments will also have to be dismantled sooner than later.

After much delay and internal wrangling, Prachanda’s government established a high powered five member special committee to work on the integration and rehabilitation of the PLA. Bam Dev Gautam, the Home Minister belonging to UML has been made the chairman, with one member each from the MJF and the Nepali Congress as members. The CPN (M) is being represented by two of its stalwarts- the Defence Minister Badal and Janardhan Sharma, the latter as the coordinator. Prachanda was said to be very keen to get Sharma alias Prabakar as the coordinator in the committee.

The Nepali Congress has declined so far to nominate a member from the party for the committee on the ground that the party was not consulted in the formation of the committee or in the terms of reference given to the committee. It is learnt that even Madhav Nepal is upset over the formation of the committee which he feels has been unilaterally done by the Maoists.

The MJF has nominated Prof. Mohammed Habibullah as its representative.

The terms of reference given to the committee are that it should prepare a report for "rehabilitation and integration of all Maoist PLA personnel in the Nepalese Army and suggesting alternative solutions."

It means that the committee can choose alternative avenues for the PLA personnel and not necessarily the PLA. This is not only a realistic approach but a doable one. Prachanda in one of his statements more or less agreed with this approach, but he is being vehemently opposed by his other colleagues including the Defence Minister Badal.

Badal’s statement should be cause for concern. At one point he said that new ‘standards’ should be applied in the matter of integration of PLA into the National Army. On 31st August he declared that a new national army will be formed after army integration. He connected this to the peace process itself and said that the integration will be done on the basis of a new national policy.

Other senior Maoist leaders whose opinions matter have opposed selective integration.

Kiran alias Mohan Baidya perhaps the senior most member of the party after Prachanda ( we ignore for the present the internal differences within the party over the rise of Baburam Bhattarai) is opposed to individual integration. In an interview he said that PLA integration is a critical issue and that the party is in no mood to budge "even an inch" from its insistence of bulk integration though it does not mind smaller sections being adjusted.

Similar views were expressed by another senior member C.P. Gajural. He said that all verified combatants should be integrated with the Nepalese Army. He also added that the seniors in the PLA who have proved their worth in the battles with the Nepalese army and who hold high positions in the PLA should be given similar positions in the Nepalese Army. If there is reluctance of the Nepal Army to take them in higher position for their lack of skills and training, they seem to be planning to seek help from China. The Government is said to be sending Pasang the present PLA Commander to China for training at the National Defence Institute- the institution meant for training of PLA ( Chinese) officers of the Brigadier General level.

The Chinese interest in Badal is also noticed elsewhere. Badal during his visit to Beijing on 26th September was offered military assistance of Rs 100 million to Nepal by their Defence Minister Liang Guanglie. The Chinese offer to Badal by the Defence Minister is very intriguing. The amount is small and is perhaps symbolic. But then why should the offer be made to the Defence Minister directly? To me it looks that the Chinese have a mischievous intent.

More intriguing is his overnight visit to Khasa along with another minister Krishna Bahadur Mahara and two other central committee members during puja holidays. The military attache of the Chinese embassy is also said to have accompanied the party to TAR.

The opposition particularly the Nepali Congress claims that the nation cannot afford to have ideologically brain washed people in the regular army. They further allege that the aim of the Maoists is to have political and ideological control over the military and a decisive say in the command structure.

Major opposition on bulk integration has come from the Nepalese Army. Surprisingly they have not been consulted on this issue or represented in the high-power Special Committee. They contend that any solution to the integration should be within the 12 point agreement, Interim Constitution and Comprehensive Peace Accord of November 26, 2006. The last one talks generally of setting up of a special cabinet committee for oversight, integration and rehabilitation.

The Nepalese Army is not willing to accept that it is a defeated Army. This is true also and the major problem is that the PLA of the Maoists thinks that it is a victorious army! The Army contends that induction of politically indoctrinated combatants into an apolitical national army will weaken it and is not in the interest of Nepali democracy.

Gen. Katuwal, the Army Chief has suggested four options for the combatants- 1. Send them for foreign employment 2. Send them to school or college 3. Engage them in national building tasks and 4. Employ them in Nepal Police, Armed Police Force and in the Nepalese Army.

He is not against taking some in the Army so long as the combatants have the requisite skills and come up to the criteria laid down for various ranks.

Prachanda is in a difficult situation as the opposition for "dispersed induction" comes both from other coalition partners like the MJF and UML as also from Nepali Congress, but also from his own seniors who wield considerable clout within the party!

It is still possible to work out a mutually acceptable solution so long as those opposed to his plan are not too rigid.


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Re: Nepal News and discussion

Postby vsudhir » 12 Nov 2008 21:10

[url=http://www.dailypioneer.com/133809/China’s-gain-is-India’s-loss.html]China’s gain is India’s loss :Ashok K Mehta[/url]

Four senior Maoists, including three Ministers, made a secret overnight overland visit to the Chinese border escorted by the Military Attaché of the Chinese Embassy in Kathmandu for discussions with Chinese PLA and wrote it off as going for a picnic during Tihar festival. Scholars from Chinese think-tanks have been telling their Nepali counterparts that they fear India would try to do a Sikkim in Nepal. A number of Chinese study Centres are coming up in the Terai and the mid hills just as the ISI in earlier times helped in the construction of mosques and madarsas. The Chinese are taking over trekking companies in the Pokhara valley which will give them unrestricted access to sensitive Indian Army Gorkha recruiting areas. The Chinese have sent feelers about recruiting Nepalis into the PLA just as they join the Indian and British Armies.

Emboldened by the Maoist rise to political power, the current commander of Maoist combatants, Mr Nand Kishore Pun Pasang, has staked his claim to the post of the Army Chief. All the right noises are being made by the Maoists on integration. An Army Integration Special Committee, backed by a technical committee, has been established to evolve in four months a suitable plan for integration and rehabilitation in accordance with a 20-point terms of reference which the Nepali Congress says is at variance with the earlier Seven-Point Agreement of the Seven-Party Alliance. It has threatened to block proceedings in the Constituent Assembly unless the anomalies of the AISC are rectified.


Prognosis not good. What if any are India's options? India doing a Sikkim on Nepal is one thing. PRC doing a Tibet on Nepal is not unthinkable anymore at this juncture, seems like. Nepal's Maoists seemt to be going the wau of the WB CPIM gang in their utter devotion to the chini cause.

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Re: Nepal News and discussion

Postby Vipin_Upadhyay » 12 Nov 2008 21:49

India need to influence and support every leader in Nepal who are opposing infiltration of communazi maoists into Nepal army.
Eventhough Maoists are in power, political parties of Nepal are deeply concerned about prospects of Nepali army getting radicalized after integration of maoists.
India cannot afford to watch Nepali army transforming into a TSP army only this time Islam replaced by equally radical communism. :evil:

http://www.nepalnews.com/archive/2008/n ... news07.php

Sitaula predicts grave risk if govt goes ahead with army integration

Continuing with his party's official line, Nepali congress leader Krishna Prasad Sitaula on Wednesday said that Maoist combatants shouldn't be integrated into Nepal Army (NA) under any circumstances, warning that the country may face grave risk if something like that is done
Speaking at a 'tea-party' organised by NC's youth wing Tarun Dal in Kalaiya of Bara district, the former home minister who was one of the peace negotiators during the NC-led interim government, talked against attempts to induct the politically indoctrinated army of a party into NA.
He also blamed the government of increasingly growing irresponsible towards its duties, and cited example to its apathy towards it main task of establishing sustainable peace and drafting a new constitution.
Sitaula is in a whirl-wind visit of Terai districts on "National Awareness Campaign for Peace, Democracy and Formation of new constitution" organized by his party.


Army integration as per peace pact: Minister Bhattarai

In what appears to be a remark made to take parties opposed to army integration process into confidence, Finance Minister Dr Babu Ram Bhattarai on Wednesday said that the merger of Maoist PLA with Nepal Army will not take place in violation of the Comprehensive Peace Accord signed between the seven-party alliance and the Maoists.

Speaking to reporters at Biratnagar Airport, Minister Bhattarai, who is considered no.2 leader inside the Maoist party, said that nobody has the right to talk against the peace pact, including those from inside his own party.

“Action would be taken against those from inside our own party who are found speaking against the peace pact,” he said, indirectly hinting at the inflammatory remarks made by some senior Maoist leaders against the peace accord and with whom he is going through a deep power tussle.


What are the details of "Peace accord" maoist Bhattarai is talking about. Does it contain any provision that puts restriction upon Maoist entering Nepali Army?.

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Postby Rye » 12 Nov 2008 22:07

The maoists are playing dirty games to become the defacto armed and ruling faction in Nepal by merging with the army and then destroying the army from within. That must not be allowed to happen in Nepal -- this is imperative. If they do penetrate the Nepali army and become China's new cat's paw (which is where the maoists are headed), the maoists need to be taken down with extreme prejudice if they go in that direction. Otherwise, it will be the beginning of the end of the entire NE being under Indian control.

The maoists are working for China (which is why Prachanda visited Beijing before India) -- hope the GoI remembers that.

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Prachanda’s daughter battles cancer in India
November 13th, 2008 - 3:37 pm ICT by IANS -
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/wor ... 18546.html
Kathmandu, Nov 13 (IANS) Even as Nepal’s Maoist Prime Minister Pushpa Kamal Dahal Prachanda attends the second BIMSTEC Summit in New Delhi, few know that his eldest child is fighting cancer in India.Gyanu KC, the eldest of four siblings, is receiving treatment for breast cancer in Mumbai’s Tata Memorial Hospital and Cancer Research Institute.

Married as a teen in 1993, three years before her father unleashed the People’s War against the state, Gyanu accompanied her husband, Arjun KC, to Jalandhar in Punjab.

Teen marriages have been the norm rather than exception in Prachanda’s family. He himself was married when only 15. “His mother was ill and we needed someone to cook and look after the family,” Prachanda’s father Muktiram Dahal told IANS.

Later, however, Prachanda’s wife Sita Poudel rose to become an advisor to the Maoist party.

Gyanu and her husband, who have two daughters, Shrishti and Drishti, live in India where both of them work full time for the Maoist party that laid down arms and joined mainstream politics two years ago.

Arjun KC is also a member of Nepali Janadhikar Suraksha Samiti, an NGO that works to protect the rights of Nepali migrants in India.

Around October, when Nepal celebrated its biggest festival Dashain, Gyanu had visited her parents in Kathmandu, her younger sister Renu, currently a lawmaker in Nepal’s interim parliament, told IANS.

“Her condition is better,” Renu said.

While the 10-year communist insurgency is now well documented, little was known about the personal life of the man who led it and lived underground with a price on his head for almost two decades.

The first personal biography of Prachanda written by Indian journalist Anirban Roy and published this year, highlights the former revolutionary’s close personal links to India.

One of Prachanda’s sons-in-law is Indian.

Prachanda’s third daughter Ganga, who now lives in Kathmandu and was recently described by a Nepali magazine as a member of her father’s kitchen cabinet, is married to Narayan Vikram Pradhan, son of Badri Narayan Pradhan, veteran leader of the Communist Party of India-Marxist (CPI-M) and a former Rajya Sabha MP.

A year after the armed revolt started in Nepal, Prachanda, worrying for the safety of the three younger children who were living underground with their parents - daughters Renu and Ganga and son Prakash - decided to marry off the two teenaged daughters at the same time.

In February 1997, the two daughters were married at Hotel Lila in downtown Lucknow in India’s Uttar Pradesh state in a simple ceremony.

After the marriage, Renu and her husband Arjun Pathak went to live in Jalandhar while Ganga and her groom went to Siliguri.

Now, however, only Gyanu and her family live in India.

Prachanda’s family has a history of cancer. His mother Bhawani Pathak died of cancer

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Nepal rejects India’s plea for sky marshals

http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/stor ... IsSU=&SEO=

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First Published : 14 Nov 2008 06:00:00 AM IST
Last Updated : 14 Nov 2008 09:53:44 AM IST

NEW DELHI: Fearing a repeat of Kandahar kind of hijack, India has made a strong plea to the Nepal government for deployment of sky marshals on all Kathmandu bound flights.

It has also offered Nepal to open a security counter manned by the elite Central Industrial Security Force for checking and screening of baggage at Kathmandu’s Tribhuvan International Airport.

However, Nepal, wary of the bad publicity the move can bring about internationally and hit its tourism industry, has politely turned down the offer.

Their refrain was that this would create unnecessary alarm about Nepal and affect their tourism industry that has already taken a hit because of a Maoist led government, said sources.

Instead, it has offered Delhi all the help needed to weed out terrorists from its soil and increase vigil and security check at the airport.

The silver lining for Indian security agencies is that Nepal has promised to look into the possibilities of installing and using equipment supplied by India for screening and checking passengers and baggage.

“They have also promised to get back to us for training of their personnel to man the airport effectively.

If they agree, we would be more than happy to train their personnel on security aspects and anti-hijacking techniques," said a source.

The infamous Kandahar hijack of IC 814, a Delhi bound Indian Airlines flight from Kathmandu, occurred on the eve of Christmas in 1999.

The flight was hijacked by five masked men who had managed to smuggle on board guns, knives and grenades and held all the 189 passengers and crew captive to get out of Indian air space.

The hijack drama finally ended after six days of agony on December 31 with India bartering three dreaded terrorists to free the hostages.

Sources in the government told to this website's newspaper that the Indian request was made to Nepal’s Home Secretary Gobinda Prasad Kusum during his recent parleys with Union Home Secretary Madhukar Gupta here.

“The request was made as the security threat assessment shows an increased presence of Pakistan’s ISI and anti-India terrorist outfits such as the Lashkar-e-Toiba, Jaish-e-Mohammed and HuJI in Nepal who are suspected of planning something big to bring back their agenda on the international platform,” said a source.


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Postby Rye » 18 Nov 2008 22:45

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/prach ... ../387295/

So it looks like Prachanda is actually pro-India, but his ex-maoist comrades are heavily invested into supporting China -- they want to create a "Peopre's Lepubric" as soon as possible. The Chinese will try to ruin any move to get the Nepali constitution written -- they are better off with the likes of Mohan Vaidya making Nepal a communist country.


The differences between Prachanda and Maoist hardliners like Mohan Vaidya surfaced after the latter presented his political document on "People's Republic", claiming that Prachanda's views on the issue lacked clarity.

A crucial meeting of the Central Working Committee of the CPN-Maoist on the issue, which was briefly held at Bharatpur near in Kathmandu on Monday, was postponed till Wednesday.

"We have postponed the meeting till Wednesday as further time was required to study both documents (of Vaidya and Prachanda) to start formal discussions" on the issue, senior Maoist leader and chief of party's Foreign Department C P Gajurel, a confidant of Vaidya, said.


Party insiders said the central meeting was postponed in a bid to sort out differences between Prachanda and Vaidya, who were locked in a debate over whether to adopt North Korea like People's Republic immediately or to consolidate Democratic Republic established through Nepal's People's Movement II.

Political observers claimed that the hardliner Maoist leaders' move to immediately pursue People's Republic would help regressive forces and undermine democratic process.

The hardliners' move to establish a Communist Republic in the name of People's Republic would nourish regressive and anti-democratic forces, senior advocate Dinesh Tripathi said.

This would derail the whole peace process and also obstruct the Constitution drafting, he warned. "We need a Constitution based on liberal democratic values." Tripathi said international community and civil society should be watchful regarding the matter.

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Postby RajeshA » 18 Nov 2008 22:48

Bolsheviks, Ayatollahs, Kashmiri 'Phreedam Phiters', Nepali Maoists ...

The moderates soon have to make way for the strange ones in the end of every Revolution. The cookie crumbles this way onlee.

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Postby Avinash R » 19 Nov 2008 10:43

Rye wrote:So it looks like Prachanda is actually pro-India, but his ex-maoist comrades are heavily invested into supporting China -- they want to create a "Peopre's Lepubric" as soon as possible.

prachanda May Not be a pro india, he May Be wants a temporary truce with india. truce in the sense that his fellow travellers in india May Be given some breathing space after the heavy loss they are taking. The others nepali maoists May Not want this and are looking for Total revolution Now in nepal and May Be are not bothered about what happens to their fellow travellers in india. It is always difficult to find friends among people who believe in "power through the barrel of the gun". these are violent minds who will not hesitate to turn the gun on their former friends.

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Postby Paul » 04 Dec 2008 06:15

Soft spot for China caused my downfall: Gyanendra

Sudeshna Sarkar | Kathmandu

Almost five months after he surrendered his crown, left his ancestral palace and began to lead a low-profile life, Nepal’s deposed King Gyanendra is reported to have said that his China card brought his downfall, indicating that it was a move that angered India. Gyanendra, the last king of Nepal, whose failed coup in 2005 triggered an anti-monarchy wave and led to an election that axed the nation’s 239-year-old monarchy, was on Wednesday reported as saying that his proposal at the SAARC regional bloc to include China caused things to go against him.

“Everybody knows that China wanted to sit on the SAARC (South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation) as an observer,” the ousted king reportedly told, the editor of Nepali weekly Rastriya Sanjal.

“I tabled that proposal (on Beijing’s behalf) at SAARC and since then, things started going against me.”

Without naming India, Nepal’s other giant neighbour, the last king indicated that the action angered New Delhi, which subsequently began opposing his Government and promoted the movement for the abolition of monarchy and establishing a republic in Nepal. The reported admission comes at a time when China has sent its Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi to Nepal to court the new Government headed by the former king’s arch enemy, the Maoists, who fought a 10-year war for the fall of the crown.

In March 2005, a month after the king’s ill-advised coup, China was one of the few foreign countries that decided to cultivate good relations with the royal regime. The then Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing visited Kathmandu and Beijing decided to supply arms to the Nepal army to battle the Maoists.

Nepali weekly Jana Aastha, which reported the conversation between the former king and a Nepali editor on Wednesday, also said that Gyanendra drew a parallel between the Maoist insurgency that had racked Nepal during his reign and the terror attacks in Mumbai that left 183 people dead.

“I had said that terrorism had no boundary but nobody listened to me,” said the former king, who had justified his coup on the ground that it was intended to fight Maoist terrorism and restore peace in Nepal. “That’s what happened in India,” Gyanendra reportedly said.

Now said to be engaged in writing his memoirs, the commoner-king said he surrendered power in April 2006 as the Nepali people did not like his rule. The same people, he added, would also not favour the ruling Maoist party’s attempt to turn the country into a communist republic.


For the eyes of those who were weeping for the monarchy. While Maoists coming to power is nothing to celebrate about, India's foes in Nepal will be more careful in the future before cocking a snook at India.

All that India needs to do is to ensure the no 2 and no 3 parties (Kangress, Madhesis, and the RNA) are an effective check on the maoists....This, as I said many many times before will be the Indian version of offshore balancing.

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Postby Paul » 04 Dec 2008 06:22

PRC doing a Tibet on Nepal is not unthinkable anymore at this juncture, seems like.


PRC invasion of Tibet succeeded becuz Tibet is thinly populated (and Dalai Lama's pacifist policies). Local pop are not numerous enough to engage in guerilla warfare in urban and rural areas and take heavy casualties.

That is certainly not the situation in Nepal.

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Postby vsudhir » 10 Dec 2008 20:06

Is Nepal slipping away into PRC embrace?

India meets China in Nepal

Two days after Beijing's foreign minister ended his stay in Nepal, China dispatched a military mission to Kathmandu headed by the deputy chief of its army, Lieutenant General Ma Xiotian. At a meeting with Nepal's defense minister on Sunday, the Chinese official pledged to provide the Nepal army with some non-lethal equipment and training facilities. Earlier, the visiting foreign minister had separately agreed to make an aid offer that would involve carrying out developmental activities.


It is the porous, uncontrolled border between Nepal and India where security concerns of both India and China are focused. Beijing wants Nepal to effectively regulate the border so that Tibetan exiles in India cannot easily sneak into Nepal. India too complains that Pakistani agents frequently abuse the Nepal-India border, but surprisingly it opposes the idea of regulating it, saying that an open frontier is a symbol of the close and unique relations that New Delhi and Kathmandu enjoy. This contradictory Indian position has been the stumbling bloc for keeping Nepal's territory safe and secure, as it could help assure both neighbors that Nepali soil would not be allowed for misuse or abuse by any quarter.

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Postby krithivas » 04 Jan 2009 08:52

Nepal is being de-Indianized thanks to Maoists. PRC and TSP are public enemy #1 for India.

Sacking of Indian priests in Nepal sparks protests
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1218594

BBC Gloats more here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7805191.stm

R. Krithivas

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Postby vsudhir » 09 Jan 2009 17:14

Nepal Maoists drag Bachchans into Pashupatinath row

"According to sources, during one Ram Navami celebration (in the past) renowned Indian actor Amitabh Bachchan's family offered a special worship at the shrine for four hours," the daily said.

"The chief (Indian) priest and Bachchan's family sat inside the temple for four hours while all four gates of the shrine remained shut. During that time, not a single Nepali devotee was allowed to go inside."

The daily added that "soon after that, Nepal's media reported that priceless gems at the temple were missing".


Classic propagandu tactics from the commie playbook.

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Postby vsudhir » 10 Jan 2009 04:39

Some interesting snippets on the Pashupatinath controversy from Dhruba Adhikary in Kathmandu on atimes:

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But Hindus in India aren't as patient. They have held demonstrations in front of the Nepal Embassy in New Delhi and elsewhere; television pictures have shown angry crowds burning effigies of Prachanda. The first high-profile Indian to return home without visiting the temple was Mulayam Singh Yadav, leader of the country's Samajwadi Party. He was in the capital this week as a personal guest of Nepal's president. {Huh, why is this character a personal guest of the Nepali prez? Whgatever's cooking here can't be good for India, I fear.}

Indian Hindu nationalist leader Lal Krishna Advani took up the issue publicly on Tuesday, saying how "deeply distressed" he was by the ongoing controversy. He also expressed unhappiness over the way incumbent Indian priests were being treated.

Earlier, his Bharatiya Janata Party had published a statement claiming that the controversial action had "hurt the sentiments of people in India". Official India, however, has remained quiet, which is understandable because of the country's constitutionally-secular status. Besides, Congress party president Sonia Gandhi, whose Italian origins enter public debate every now and then, may not have a particular interest in the temple, given she was barred from visiting on an earlier visit to Nepal with her husband, then prime minister Rajiv Gandhi.
{Wow. I recall IG was barred from entering the Puri temple. S0me b@lls the temple authorities have. Wish they could lend a hand in the MHA.}

The masses appear unwilling to accept Maoists as the trustees of the Hindu religion. Prachanda's refusal to take the oath of prime minister in the name of god is cited as an example of the party's atheist character. {Why isn't 'god' capitalized? Yindoos are children of lesser god onlee, I surmise, heh heh}The other relevant point members of the public often make is that since communists consider religion as opium, the Maoists' sudden concern and sympathy for Hindus is absurd and hollow. If the communists worship anything at all, it would be the portraits of Karl Marx, Mao Zedong, Vladimir Lenin and Joseph Stalin.


What Maoists have done, as was admitted by an official of the temple trust, was to randomly choose priests from among their cadres. Credible media reports said the Indian priests did not quit on their own accord, but were compelled to resign.

To make matters worse, the priests the Maoists appointed did not know the precise manner of how the rituals, prescribed by the first shankaracharya (temple head), have to be carried out inside the temple. In his book on Pashupatinath, writer Govinda Tandon explained why the tradition of hiring priests from southern India was set in motion 300 years ago. {wow. Pashupatinath was visited by Adi shakanracharya? Thats news to me...That great soul long ago foretold the eternal borders of sanaatanam would lie between the 4 dhaams and IIRC Pashupatinath ain't one of the 4}

"Catholics go to the Vatican to see the pope; nobody bothers whether he is from, Germany or Poland,” Sharat Chandra Wasti, an associate professor of Sanskrit studies, told Asia Times Online. Similarly, Muslims go to Mecca, not to a political entity called Saudi Arabia, he added.


Wasti, who has spent considerable time doing research on the temple, posed another challenging question to Maoists: can their government appoint clergies in Nepal's mosques and churches as well? No, they cannot. Clearly, Maoists are taking undue advantage of the high level of tolerance that exists among Hindus. Wasti even suspects that the Maoists have eaten pecuniary bait thrown by some non-Hindu groups aiming to secure mass conversions.

{Aha! There it is, the global soul harvesting movement's claw inside the maoists' red fist}


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'Foiled arms deal behind Nepal palace massacre'

Kathmandu, March 30: Coming out with a new theory on the 2001 Palace Massacre, ex-Nepal king Gyanendra's son Paras has claimed that crown prince Dipendra was not drunk during the killing and a thwarted major arms deal from which he had hoped to gain a "windfall" may be the "real trigger".


In an interview to The New Paper of Singapore, the former crown prince, known for his flamboyant lifestyle and playboy character, said the royal family's opposition to Dipendra's affair with Devyani Rana was only one of the three reasons for the killing -- the other two being craze for money and power.


According to 37-year-old Paras, his cousin's advisors had been working on a multi-million dollar arms deal, which could have brought the crown prince a "windfall". It would have been Dipendra's golden parachute to freedom, he said.

"The Nepali Army was looking for a new weapon to replace the Belgian SLR. Dipendra liked the German Heckler & Koch G36 assault rifle, as opposed to the battle-tested Colt M16," said Paras. "But his father, His Majesty, did not agree. I know that they argued over it. Dipendra was frustrated. He wasn't happy. He told me."

"That, to me, was the real trigger (for the massacre)," Paras told the paper.

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Postby Vipin_Upadhyay » 04 Apr 2009 13:50

Maoists trying to establish totalitarian system: Koirala

Nepali Congress President Girija Prasad Koirala has charged the Maoist government of trying to implement their totalitarian policy in parliament, army force and judiciary.
Speaking at the face to face programme with journalists in Parsa Saturday morning, Koirala said the Maoists have interfered into the business of these three organs of the country in their mission to end democratic system.
He however called for political consensus to tackle the increasing instability and chaos, adding failure of the parties to combat the present turmoil jointly would lead to increased foreign intervention into international affairs.
In another context, Koirala claimed Reporters Club Nepal president Rishi Dhamala was trapped by a Maoist conspiracy and demanded for his immediate release. nepalnews.com ia Apr 04 09

http://www.nepalnews.com/archive/2009/a ... news06.php


All political parties including Koirala's supported Maoists in their campaign to oust king and establish Maoists rule, so why whining now like a paki. Maoists are Nepal's taliban and they have brought it upon themselves.

While we have spent good money in Afghanistan, it's disgusting to see GOI's negligence towards Nepal. This is being exploited by all, including British!

Foster: PLA fate in people’s hand

KAILALI, April 2 - British Minister for International Development Mike Foster inspected the seventh division main camp of the Maoist People's Liberation Army (PLA) at Talbanda on Wednesday.

Speaking at a press meet in Nepalgunj earlier, Foster said Nepali people should decide the future of People's Liberation Army combatants.

Meanwhile, Foster, on Wednesday announced additional Rs. 460 million support under the World Food Programme.
http://www.kantipuronline.com/kolnews.php?nid=187480

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Postby chetak » 07 Apr 2009 19:38

A BJP self goal :eek:

http://www.dailypioneer.com/167776/BJP- ... -fire.html



BJP stoking Darjeeling fire

Shikha Mukerjee

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West Bengal is what remains of Bengal that has been partitioned once too often. By cutting a deal with those demanding a separate Gorkhaland, the BJP has signalled that it will back yet another partition of Bengal. The BJP has clearly failed to grasp the strategic importance of this region which is crucial to national security

The idea of ‘Greater Nepal’ has been around for decades. When the original Gorkhaland movement spearheaded by Mr Subash Ghising raised the slogan, it set alarm bells ringing. The danger was overcome and a solution was found through the mechanism of an autonomous hill council, the Darjeeling Gorkha Hill Council. The accord between the Gorkha National Liberation Front, West Bengal and the Government in New Delhi confirmed the identity of migrants from Nepal who had settled in the three hill subdivisions of Darjeeling, Kalimpong and Kurseong, as Gorkhas. The purpose of describing the migrant settlers as Gorkha was to distinguish them from the tens of thousands of Nepalese citizens who have over the years migrated into India, facilitated by the open border between India and Nepal.

The Gorkha Janamukti Morcha with its demand for a separate Gorkhaland is a post-DGHC eruption. Despite its strident vows to be Gandhian in its politics, nationalist in its commitment and Gorkha in its aspirations, it is nevertheless the tip of a much larger concealed agenda. The GJM has extended its territorial claims to the Dooars that includes Siliguri, the most crucial connection point for all land movement north to Sikkim, Bhutan and the border with Nepal on the one hand, and the North-East on the other. The only railway link with the North-East runs via Siliguri. The national highways connect near Siliguri. Any danger to the connection would fatally rupture the link.

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Postby vsudhir » 23 Apr 2009 17:36

Amid violence, Indians get caught up in Nepal's witch hunt

"All we are asking is that police escort us to the Indian border," said Sawant, who received head injuries. "We want to go back."

While Lahan police are doing their best to protect the visitors, they too are unable to provide safe passage to the border right now as the Terai plains have been paralysed by an indefinite shutdown called by an ethnic organisation, the Samyukta Tharuhat Sangharsh Samiti, since Wednesday.

The Siraha attack is not an isolated incident.

Since last week, Terai villages have seen an unprecedented series of attacks against outsiders, who are mostly beggars, ragpickers and mentally unbalanced people, on the suspicion they are child lifters.

The suspicion has been fuelled by a section of the media with allegations that Indian gangs had stepped up activities in Nepal's border towns to kidnap little children.

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Postby Sanjay M » 28 Apr 2009 17:25

chetak wrote:A BJP self goal :eek:

http://www.dailypioneer.com/167776/BJP- ... -fire.html


BJP stoking Darjeeling fire


Bah, when Bengal is importing Bangladeshis to flood India, then I have little sympathies for Bengal's claim towards protecting the national interest.

I agree with BJP's stance on supporting the Gorkhas. Next you'll be telling me that listening sympathetically to Assamese being flooded by Bangladeshis also amounts to anti-national treason. It's this type of idiotic thinking that gave rise to ULFA, etc.

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Re: Nepal News and discussion

Postby Rahul M » 03 May 2009 14:32

chetak ji, why is that news in this thread ? till date there is no reason to suspect any nepali connection to the gorkhaland issue.

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Postby Rupesh » 03 May 2009 16:56

Sacked Nepal army chief refuses to step down

KATHMANDU: Nepal’s army chief Gen Rukmanga Katawal, who was sacked by the ruling Maoist Party on Sunday, has refused to accept the decision,
according to TV reports.

Times Now says that an emergency meeting is being held by the top brass of Nepal’s army at the residence of Katawal over the issue.

Earlier, ending days of speculation, Nepal's Maoists-led government on Sunday fired Gen Rukmanga Katawal, replacing him with loyalist Gen Kul Bahadur Khadka.

The announcement was made by prime minister Prachanda's press adviser Om Sharma despite domestic and international calls against such a move, including from India.

The 61-year-old Katawal, who received his marching orders just three months before he is due to retire, is expected to knock at Nepal's Supreme Court to stay the Maoists' hand, IANS reported.



http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Sacked-Nepal-army-chief-refuses-to-quit/articleshow/4478800.cms

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Re: Nepal News and discussion

Postby derkonig » 03 May 2009 17:11

Can a coup not happen? The RNA is certainly more powerful than the EJ & PRC backed maoist thugs. And the maoist leadership is almost entirely in Kathmandu now.

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Postby Anabhaya » 03 May 2009 17:19

The Maoists appear to have chosen the time quite cleverly. Over the last weeks Indian envoys have had meetings in Nepal. Let's watch how this unfolds.

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Re: Nepal News and discussion

Postby Rupesh » 03 May 2009 17:30

Nepali Generals are more or less like their Indian counterparts rather than the pakis ,So i doubt if there will be any coup..We need to encourage Gen Katawal to stay put and in the best case to grab power . GOI needs to show some spine. Our interests in Nepal is directly under threat.Any idea about the unity of Nepali Army,will they support their chief in case of a coup?. What sort of support base does Gen Kul Bahadur Khadka have?

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Re: Nepal News and discussion

Postby Rahul M » 03 May 2009 17:39

times now reports that Gen katawal has placed NA on full alert.

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Re: Nepal News and discussion

Postby vsudhir » 03 May 2009 17:44

Its time to invite Nepal to join the Indian Union, with constitutional safeguards of the sort available to a Sikkim or (dare I say it, to a J&K). Of course, the Maoists' sponsors up north and west will go into spasms of anything but delight, but too bad, I guess.

The main question is how amenable are the aam Nepalese to the idea? Amsure the India bordering plains regions will be more than happy to oblige, not too surfe about the other half of the popn.

Anyway, as long as poll season continues and a new GoI isn't sworn in, nothing will move in Dilli.

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Re: Nepal News and discussion

Postby Sanjay M » 03 May 2009 19:46

Nah, it's time for Madhesis to act up, so that when Mao-badis show up to quell them, they won't be able to get out alive.

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Re: Nepal News and discussion

Postby Kritavarman » 03 May 2009 19:52

Seriously, for the future of India, we need Nepal as a part of India, and the time is ripe to act


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