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Soumyadipta@Soumyadipta·7h
Reports: One more famous Bangladesh terrorist arrested from Bengal.

NIA arrested Risaldar Moslemuddin, convicted for murdering the first president of Bangladesh, Sheikh Mujibur Rahman.

The entire operation was done without informing Bengal Police



https://www.thedailystar.net/frontpage/ ... ia-1895095

According to a report of Kolkata-based media, Moslem was living in Thakurnagar area of North 24 Parganas. He was running a traditional herbal medicine shop there, identifying himself as Dr Dutta.

Anandabazar, a popular Bangla newspaper in India, reported that Dhaka informed the Indian intelligence that it would be tough for them to take back Moslem to the country after arresting him from India due to the ongoing lockdown.

The Indian intelligence handed over Moslem to the Bangladesh intelligence at an unguarded bordering point after his arrest, it reports, quoting Indian intelligence source.
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When relief comes with a subtle offer to convert

Member of a voluntary organization has been accused of urging Hindus to convert to Islam when providing relief in Sreemangal upazila of Moulvibazar.

https://www.thedailystar.net/coronaviru ... rt-1897597
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Risaldar Moslemuddin
They ran out of hemp rope in Bangladesh? He hasn't gone to the gallows yet?
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I'm worried about the BD and WB situation. We are one BD election away (the wrong Begum comes to power or worse, JEI) from having additional one and half front war situation (insurgency in WB).

Not sure why we didn't expand the chicken neck or connect Tripura to BoB after 1971 victory.
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srin wrote:I'm worried about the BD and WB situation. We are one BD election away (the wrong Begum comes to power or worse, JEI) from having additional one and half front war situation (insurgency in WB).

Not sure why we didn't expand the chicken neck or connect Tripura to BoB after 1971 victory.
Not just this one instance, but across the board our 'Founding Fathers' were too immersed in the 'Ahimsa' and 'Non violence' and 'Satyagraha' that had been inculcated into the national psyche including the baboos for few decades.
Compare this to US of A consolidating its borders after the birth of the nation either by buying off the land or by aggression!
'48, '62, '65 but mostly '71 was our time to reorganise but we messed up big time :eek:
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Rsatchi wrote:
srin wrote:I'm worried about the BD and WB situation. We are one BD election away (the wrong Begum comes to power or worse, JEI) from having additional one and half front war situation (insurgency in WB).

Not sure why we didn't expand the chicken neck or connect Tripura to BoB after 1971 victory.
Not just this one instance, but across the board our 'Founding Fathers' were too immersed in the 'Ahimsa' and 'Non violence' and 'Satyagraha' that had been inculcated into the national psyche including the baboos for few decades.
Compare this to US of A consolidating its borders after the birth of the nation either by buying off the land or by aggression!
'48, '62, '65 but mostly '71 was our time to reorganise but we messed up big time :eek:
In 1947, leaders on both sides did what they considered important :

one side concentrated on building a brand

while the other side concentrated on building a dynasty.

everything followed from that because the political successors on both sides, the baboodom (or the army + isi) and all the house negroes just set about enhancing and furthering what was vital to their petty personal interests and financial gain.

In both cases, malicious offshore entities have had a free run in the clever shaping of the national narrative and they have succeeded to a very high degree in their objectives of "othering".

regarding the chicken neck, I am certain that there would have been umpteen attempts and concrete proposals made to beediland to help better India's strategic and tactical options in this specific geographical area.

The cunning and ungrateful beedis have had a dhobis list of grievances against India since before partition so, after the 1971 war, when the beedis were certain that India would withdraw, they would have trotted out their dhobie's list of grievances cleverly repackaged as little gifts where it would be "customary" for the big brother to gift to the little sister when she moved into her new home without the expectation of receiving anything in return.

it's all taqiya onlee. BTW, the beedis have never been our "friends" at any time and nor will they ever be.

No agreement yet simply means that the beedi hopes for a big bang settlement by India completely in their favor has not yet faded and they are holding out for it.

The recent gifting away of thousands of acres of Indian borderland to the beedis by Modi has only reinforced their firm belief that they can make Indian do what they want it to do.

After the disastrous IWT agreement by India where "pandit" neverwho was outclassed and outgunned and made a complete fool of, by ameriki guile and paki cunning, the beedis have always hoped for a similar disproportionate "settlement" on the teesta waters and many other border enclave and other one sided preferential trade issues favoring the little sister, as is her right.

In the end, the malicious dynastie turned out to be as harmful to India's strategic interests as they always were, especially when so much of Indian blood had been spilled to gain unassailable advantages that were squandered away at the altar of petty personal perceptions of public image as well as the eternal colonial mindset of those in power, in their need to always seek the whitey's approval and validation.
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chetak wrote:
Rsatchi wrote: Not just this one instance, but across the board our 'Founding Fathers' were too immersed in the 'Ahimsa' and 'Non violence' and 'Satyagraha' that had been inculcated into the national psyche including the baboos for few decades.
Compare this to US of A consolidating its borders after the birth of the nation either by buying off the land or by aggression!
'48, '62, '65 but mostly '71 was our time to reorganise but we messed up big time :eek:
In 1947, leaders on both sides did what they considered important :
concentrated on building a dynasty.

In the end, the malicious dynastie turned out to be as harmful to India's strategic interests as they always were, especially when so much of Indian blood had been spilled to gain unassailable advantages that were squandered away at the altar of petty personal perceptions of public image as well as the eternal colonial mindset of those in power, in their need to always seek the whitey's approval and validation.[/quote]
Chetakji
I don't have too many objections to the Dynasty as long as they afford political stability, especially in a country like India with immediate post-Independence problems Like: Poverty, Communicable diseases, low literacy rates, agrarian society utterly dependent on Monsoon for crops and no industry worth mentioning.
But those working under the leadership of the dynastic rule:
1. pandered to the leader's ego
2. sold themselves for 30 shekels so speak to the goras
3. perpetuated the myth of the 'Gora Sahib's' and 'Burra Sahib's'
4. Never allowed the real Panchayat Raj to be established (i.e., devolution of power to the lowest strata of the society)
We cant therefore keep blaming everything on 'Banditji' and his Dynasty!!
We as a Nation have to 'Kop some of the Blame'
The nation was united in '47 as one, but leaders squandered the opportunity
Even Indira had a chance in '71 but the underlings sold her out!!!
Hope with this two term 'BJP' in power Manthan will churn the National Psyche to such an extent that there wont be a chance to going back to the bad ways!!
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Rsatchi wrote:
chetak wrote:
In 1947, leaders on both sides did what they considered important :
concentrated on building a dynasty.

In the end, the malicious dynastie turned out to be as harmful to India's strategic interests as they always were, especially when so much of Indian blood had been spilled to gain unassailable advantages that were squandered away at the altar of petty personal perceptions of public image as well as the eternal colonial mindset of those in power, in their need to always seek the whitey's approval and validation.[/quote]
Chetakji
I don't have too many objections to the Dynasty as long as they afford political stability, especially in a country like India with immediate post-Independence problems Like: Poverty, Communicable diseases, low literacy rates, agrarian society utterly dependent on Monsoon for crops and no industry worth mentioning.
But those working under the leadership of the dynastic rule:
1. pandered to the leader's ego
2. sold themselves for 30 shekels so speak to the goras
3. perpetuated the myth of the 'Gora Sahib's' and 'Burra Sahib's'
4. Never allowed the real Panchayat Raj to be established (i.e., devolution of power to the lowest strata of the society)
We cant therefore keep blaming everything on 'Banditji' and his Dynasty!!
We as a Nation have to 'Kop some of the Blame'
The nation was united in '47 as one, but leaders squandered the opportunity
Even Indira had a chance in '71 but the underlings sold her out!!!
Hope with this two term 'BJP' in power Manthan will churn the National Psyche to such an extent that there wont be a chance to going back to the bad ways!!
The siliguri corridor or the "chicken neck" has been in the eyes of the world community for decades now.

India has been aware of this strategic weak point also for decades and yet we have foolishly allowed inimical beedi and roper settlements to flourish here.

We should simply declare it all as a smallish UT and administer it from dilli with a uniformed military or intelligence guy as the governor, citing national security issues and making it a huge airforce and army cantonment with civilian laws nonapplicable for the most part in this region.

the rolers want to break off India at this point and they have had a head start, thanks to "pundit" neverwho who allowed unrestricted access to the amerikis to this part of India so now you hear war cries of christian state of nagalim, nagaland and what not.

the ropers, slightly slower off the mark, are breeding out the Hindus as well as enforcing religious apartheid by importing beedis to ensure faster demographic changes on their way to absolute political power in the border districts of India and they too want to break off India at this chicken neck region.

To India's detriment, the amerikis, the britshits, the cheeni, the beedis, the saudis and the pakis all have nefarious designs on the chicken neck.

Ever since the failure of the xtian terrorist outfit the LTTE, to gain a foothold and flourish in the south, this has become the next "east timor" like hotspot.

The beedis are the only ones who can help but they have a sharp knife held literally to India's throat so why would they give up such an advantage. Even road access through beediland has come at a vastly disproportionate cost to India in terms of India providing preferential road, air and rail links favoring the beedis and such links are leading into the Indian hinterland.

India knows what the beedis want in return to help us secure the chicken neck but it has not been made public yet.

I have a very strong feeling that it may involve some sort of a nepal type border agreement where the beedis have unrestricted access into India without passports, border controls or any other beedi documents.

Also, at some point, due to global warming, the melting ice will cause the oceans to rise. many parts of beediland is fairly low lying, so their affected populations may have nowhere else to go but to force their way into India.

their situation is not as bad as the maldives but still, they will be significantly impacted and maybe that is one of the main reasons that they are holding on to their only trump card and preventing the widening of the siliguri corridor or the chicken neck by India or even allowing India to bypass it completely using a permanent solution by either using completely bought out or long term leased beedi land

Why is the border fencing by India being held up, is it because this beedi govt does not want it

just look at what all India has tried to do. I have no idea of the outcome but beedi intransigence and sheer islamic cussedness is at the heart of all this.



A sea route to northeast in the making

A Burmese port on the Bay of Bengal has promised to solve the long-standing problem between Bangladesh and India.

Nov 19, 2008,


SHILLONG: As Bangladesh continues to deny India access to landlocked northeast through Chittagong port, a little-known Burmese port on the Bay of Bengal has promised to solve the long-standing problem.

Sittwe port on the Myanmar coast was not long ago a small village of fishing communities and farmers. Now, it could serve as a commercial sea route to the north-eastern states through Burmese territory.

A Union Commerce Ministry team, which recently came here in connection with a seminar, said that the port has attained immense strategic importance with India developing the port, expanding facilities to accommodate goods traffic under an agreement signed by the two governments in April, this year.

From Sittwe the Kaladan River will be made navigable for 225 km, up to Kaletwa (Myanmar). From there, a 62-km highway will take the traffic to the India-Myanmar border in the Indian state of Mizoram.

A road from the border will link the project to India's National Highway-54. The sea distance between Kolkata and Sittwe is about 540 km. India is financing the entire USD 103 million project.
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^IMHO, other nations with much poorer geography and land area have managed quite well, including Germany, Japan and the landlocked countries in Europe.

A cursory study of the map , which shows the Chicken neck, also confirms that it is bordered by Nepal and Bhutan.

At the very least, High speed rail / air corridors overflying these countries may be possible on reciprocal basis.

If our planners had any determination, we would look to develop either some nearby port like Cuttack in Orissa, with connectivity to the N-E region from there using high speed rail links,air corridors, etc. or improvement of existing ones for economical operations.

The low shipping charges can still be enjoyed substantially till some suitable mainland port.

Taking a Hobson's choice, lets assume that both Nepal and Bhutan deny us flight and rail on reciprocal basis (extremely unlikely being landlocked, with significant Indian supplies reaching them).

Then cant we develop the chicken neck area itself with a high speed rail line or air corridor ?

The chicken neck is certainly at least 20 km wide, the Japanese can work wonders with an area like that, they can pump in 50 trains a day on a two line track, as shown in Japan Railway Journal. (their operations room has no computers, only signalling and control systems).

But this is hard work. Its easier to go for a meeting with the Bangladeshis and negotiate.

Obviously, they wont respect anyone who cannot solve their own problems.
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dinesh_kimar wrote: Then cant we develop the chicken neck area itself with a high speed rail line or air corridor ?
iirc There already is a railway track from Kolkata to Guwahati. It just needs to be upgraded.
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We have to work with the width of land (around 20 km ) that we have . A hypothetical land swap with Bhutan wouldn't help because India-Bhutan border is just of foothills and anyways this border is slightly away from the chocking point.

In case of Nepal again our existing border ie north of panitanki, is similar foothills. At best we increase the width to about 28 km( if we can manage to get plains land to the west of panitanki ) and Not much change
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chetak wrote:
Rsatchi wrote:
In 1947, leaders on both sides did what they considered important :
concentrated on building a dynasty.

In the end, the malicious dynastie turned out to be as harmful to India's strategic interests as they always were, especially when so much of Indian blood had been spilled to gain unassailable advantages that were squandered away at the altar of petty personal perceptions of public image as well as the eternal colonial mindset of those in power, in their need to always seek the whitey's approval and validation.[/quote]
Chetakji
I don't have too many objections to the Dynasty as long as they afford political stability, especially in a country like India with immediate post-Independence problems Like: Poverty, Communicable diseases, low literacy rates, agrarian society utterly dependent on Monsoon for crops and no industry worth mentioning.
But those working under the leadership of the dynastic rule:
1. pandered to the leader's ego
2. sold themselves for 30 shekels so speak to the goras
3. perpetuated the myth of the 'Gora Sahib's' and 'Burra Sahib's'
4. Never allowed the real Panchayat Raj to be established (i.e., devolution of power to the lowest strata of the society)
We cant therefore keep blaming everything on 'Banditji' and his Dynasty!!
We as a Nation have to 'Kop some of the Blame'
The nation was united in '47 as one, but leaders squandered the opportunity
Even Indira had a chance in '71 but the underlings sold her out!!!
Hope with this two term 'BJP' in power Manthan will churn the National Psyche to such an extent that there wont be a chance to going back to the bad ways!!
The siliguri corridor or the "chicken neck" has been in the eyes of the world community for decades now.

India has been aware of this strategic weak point also for decades and yet we have foolishly allowed inimical beedi and roper settlements to flourish here.

We should simply declare it all as a smallish UT and administer it from dilli with a uniformed military or intelligence guy as the governor, citing national security issues and making it a huge airforce and army cantonment with civilian laws nonapplicable for the most part in this region.

the rolers want to break off India at this point and they have had a head start, thanks to "pundit" neverwho who allowed unrestricted access to the amerikis to this part of India so now you hear war cries of christian state of nagalim, nagaland and what not.

the ropers, slightly slower off the mark, are breeding out the Hindus as well as enforcing religious apartheid by importing beedis to ensure faster demographic changes on their way to absolute political power in the border districts of India and they too want to break off India at this chicken neck region.

To India's detriment, the amerikis, the britshits, the cheeni, the beedis, the saudis and the pakis all have nefarious designs on the chicken neck.

Ever since the failure of the xtian terrorist outfit the LTTE, to gain a foothold and flourish in the south, this has become the next "east timor" like hotspot.

The beedis are the only ones who can help but they have a sharp knife held literally to India's throat so why would they give up such an advantage. Even road access through beediland has come at a vastly disproportionate cost to India in terms of India providing preferential road, air and rail links favoring the beedis and such links are leading into the Indian hinterland.

India knows what the beedis want in return to help us secure the chicken neck but it has not been made public yet.

I have a very strong feeling that it may involve some sort of a nepal type border agreement where the beedis have unrestricted access into India without passports, border controls or any other beedi documents.

Also, at some point, due to global warming, the melting ice will cause the oceans to rise. many parts of beediland is fairly low lying, so their affected populations may have nowhere else to go but to force their way into India.

their situation is not as bad as the maldives but still, they will be significantly impacted and maybe that is one of the main reasons that they are holding on to their only trump card and preventing the widening of the siliguri corridor or the chicken neck by India or even allowing India to bypass it completely using a permanent solution by either using completely bought out or long term leased beedi land

Why is the border fencing by India being held up, is it because this beedi govt does not want it

just look at what all India has tried to do. I have no idea of the outcome but beedi intransigence and sheer islamic cussedness is at the heart of all this.



A sea route to northeast in the making

A Burmese port on the Bay of Bengal has promised to solve the long-standing problem between Bangladesh and India.

Nov 19, 2008,


SHILLONG: As Bangladesh continues to deny India access to landlocked northeast through Chittagong port, a little-known Burmese port on the Bay of Bengal has promised to solve the long-standing problem.

Sittwe port on the Myanmar coast was not long ago a small village of fishing communities and farmers. Now, it could serve as a commercial sea route to the north-eastern states through Burmese territory.

A Union Commerce Ministry team, which recently came here in connection with a seminar, said that the port has attained immense strategic importance with India developing the port, expanding facilities to accommodate goods traffic under an agreement signed by the two governments in April, this year.

From Sittwe the Kaladan River will be made navigable for 225 km, up to Kaletwa (Myanmar). From there, a 62-km highway will take the traffic to the India-Myanmar border in the Indian state of Mizoram.

A road from the border will link the project to India's National Highway-54. The sea distance between Kolkata and Sittwe is about 540 km. India is financing the entire USD 103 million project.
Chetak Saar,
1. That Burmese port of Sittwae sits in Rohingya heartland. Also, transporting through Kalaidan river near the Mizo border is not easy, and then hauling by trucks another 65 km through mountainous roads will be an onerous job.
2. Far better option would be to keep AL in power in BD, and make use of the Chittagong-Sabroom (Tripura) route. I'm sure Hasiana will be back to power. They way Bharat is providing her personal security cover shouldn't go in vain.
3. While we are talking about the Siliguri chicken-neck area, one thing has been going (probably) unnoticed for our Dilli babus is that in the last ten years dubious western characters (mostly from khan-land) are setting bases in that area. The modus-operandi is pretty simple - marry nepalese women from Darjeeling area (in exchange let their family members emigrate to khan-land), get long-term visa, and then settle there. Then the next phase starts - build friendship with local police and BSF personnel - invite them for chai-biskoot, but serve them expensive liquor. (You have to see how the local police-BSF babus salivate with that.) .... :(
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When relief comes with a subtle offer to convert

Members of ‘Bangla Aid’ were seen distributing relief to families in Noagaon village under Sreemangal upazila of Moulvibazar on April 22, 2020. Photo: Collected
Star Online Report
Member of a voluntary organisation has been accused of urging Hindus to convert to Islam when providing relief in Sreemangal upazila of Moulvibazar. This has led to widespread criticism on social media.
On April 22, a voluntary organisation called 'Bangla Aid' distributed relief to families in Noagaon village of Sreemangal's Sadar union amidst the coronavirus outbreak. On that day, the members of Bangla Aid informed that relief would be distributed among 60 Muslim and 20 Hindu families in the area.

As seen in a live video on Bangla Aid's Facebook page, a volunteer distributing relief said, "Even though Hindus persecuted Muslims in India, we have given relief to Hindus here. Now, if anyone converts to Islam, we'd welcome them."

Then the young volunteer spoke to a Hindu woman who was receiving relief. At one point during the conversation, he told the woman, "If you think Islam is right, you come to Islam."
Asked about this, Bangla Aid's spokesperson Sumon Mia -- who was in the live video -- said that their aim was to help the poor.

"I did not talk about any religious issues. My intention was to help 100 Muslim families in the Noagaon area, but later I felt that all those affected by the outbreak need relief. So, I also gave relief to Hindus. At that time, I wanted to explain to them how Muslims are being persecuted in India but how much we respect and love Hindus in Bangladesh. Moreover, I did not ask them directly to convert to Islam. I said they could come to our religion," he said about the Facebook live video.
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Kati wrote:
chetak wrote:
Chetak Saar,
1. That Burmese port of Sittwae sits in Rohingya heartland. Also, transporting through Kalaidan river near the Mizo border is not easy, and then hauling by trucks another 65 km through mountainous roads will be an onerous job.
2. Far better option would be to keep AL in power in BD, and make use of the Chittagong-Sabroom (Tripura) route. I'm sure Hasiana will be back to power. They way Bharat is providing her personal security cover shouldn't go in vain.
3. While we are talking about the Siliguri chicken-neck area, one thing has been going (probably) unnoticed for our Dilli babus is that in the last ten years dubious western characters (mostly from khan-land) are setting bases in that area. The modus-operandi is pretty simple - marry nepalese women from Darjeeling area (in exchange let their family members emigrate to khan-land), get long-term visa, and then settle there. Then the next phase starts - build friendship with local police and BSF personnel - invite them for chai-biskoot, but serve them expensive liquor. (You have to see how the local police-BSF babus salivate with that.) .... :(

It's a open secret, sirji.

shameful but true.


Jibu D Mathew, a commandant with the BSF, slyly traveling by train along with his booty, was arrested, and over time, many more such arrests have been made too.



BSF officers with lavish lifestyle to be under scanner


Mar 11, 2018

BSF officers who lead a "lavish" lifestyle or are members of costly clubs would be identified as "suspects" under a new vigilance drive initiated by the force that guards sensitive Indian borders with Pakistan and Bangladesh.

A section of officials termed these criteria as "ridiculous".

The country's largest border guarding force regularly conducts a confidential exercise of identifying officials with suspicious credentials or for indulging in corrupt practices but some new parameters have recently been added for creating the inglorious list of shady personnel for 2017.

Sources said the latest move has come in the backdrop of the arrest of a senior BSF Commanding Officer (CO) by the CBI for his alleged nexus with smugglers while his posting along the Indo-Bangla border in West Bengal.

He was arrested by the central probe agency with Rs 45 lakh in cash as soon as he alighted a train in his hometown in Kerala.
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Kati wrote:
chetak wrote:
The siliguri corridor or the "chicken neck" has been in the eyes of the world community for decades now.

India has been aware of this strategic weak point also for decades and yet we have foolishly allowed inimical beedi and roper settlements to flourish here.

We should simply declare it all as a smallish UT and administer it from dilli with a uniformed military or intelligence guy as the governor, citing national security issues and making it a huge airforce and army cantonment with civilian laws nonapplicable for the most part in this region.

the rolers want to break off India at this point and they have had a head start, thanks to "pundit" neverwho who allowed unrestricted access to the amerikis to this part of India so now you hear war cries of christian state of nagalim, nagaland and what not.

the ropers, slightly slower off the mark, are breeding out the Hindus as well as enforcing religious apartheid by importing beedis to ensure faster demographic changes on their way to absolute political power in the border districts of India and they too want to break off India at this chicken neck region.

To India's detriment, the amerikis, the britshits, the cheeni, the beedis, the saudis and the pakis all have nefarious designs on the chicken neck.

Ever since the failure of the xtian terrorist outfit the LTTE, to gain a foothold and flourish in the south, this has become the next "east timor" like hotspot.

The beedis are the only ones who can help but they have a sharp knife held literally to India's throat so why would they give up such an advantage. Even road access through beediland has come at a vastly disproportionate cost to India in terms of India providing preferential road, air and rail links favoring the beedis and such links are leading into the Indian hinterland.

India knows what the beedis want in return to help us secure the chicken neck but it has not been made public yet.

I have a very strong feeling that it may involve some sort of a nepal type border agreement where the beedis have unrestricted access into India without passports, border controls or any other beedi documents.

Also, at some point, due to global warming, the melting ice will cause the oceans to rise. many parts of beediland is fairly low lying, so their affected populations may have nowhere else to go but to force their way into India.

their situation is not as bad as the maldives but still, they will be significantly impacted and maybe that is one of the main reasons that they are holding on to their only trump card and preventing the widening of the siliguri corridor or the chicken neck by India or even allowing India to bypass it completely using a permanent solution by either using completely bought out or long term leased beedi land

Why is the border fencing by India being held up, is it because this beedi govt does not want it

just look at what all India has tried to do. I have no idea of the outcome but beedi intransigence and sheer islamic cussedness is at the heart of all this.



A sea route to northeast in the making

Chetak Saar,
1. That Burmese port of Sittwae sits in Rohingya heartland. Also, transporting through Kalaidan river near the Mizo border is not easy, and then hauling by trucks another 65 km through mountainous roads will be an onerous job.
2. Far better option would be to keep AL in power in BD, and make use of the Chittagong-Sabroom (Tripura) route. I'm sure Hasiana will be back to power. They way Bharat is providing her personal security cover shouldn't go in vain.
3. While we are talking about the Siliguri chicken-neck area, one thing has been going (probably) unnoticed for our Dilli babus is that in the last ten years dubious western characters (mostly from khan-land) are setting bases in that area. The modus-operandi is pretty simple - marry nepalese women from Darjeeling area (in exchange let their family members emigrate to khan-land), get long-term visa, and then settle there. Then the next phase starts - build friendship with local police and BSF personnel - invite them for chai-biskoot, but serve them expensive liquor. (You have to see how the local police-BSF babus salivate with that.) .... :(
Just to further this discussion:
After '71 War India had occupied whole of East Pakistan.
Before the birth of the new nation, could we not have reorganised the borders in such a way:
1.Widen the chicken area by retaking the land.
2.Extended the Mizo border to include the Cox's bazaar and the surrounding land.
We would have easy land and sea route to the NE
We could have easily nixed the Chinese plans in BoB area.
Any reason why were so magnanimous!!
Also some of the 'Silver-Backs' on the Forum here might remember the Bangla Desh relief stamps that we were forced to use for every card(post card)/letter(remember the in-land letter)/cover etc
And now the behaviour/attitude of the Bangla Deshi's towards India :shock:
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Why can't we have a land swap between WB and Bangladesh to enlarge chicken neck corridor and give equivalent parts of makes populated by malsi instead to Bangladesh
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schinnas wrote:Why can't we have a land swap between WB and Bangladesh to enlarge chicken neck corridor and give equivalent parts of makes populated by malsi instead to Bangladesh
Land is one thing, population another.

We did have a swap a couple of years ago to fix the Cooch Behar enclaves; however residents of enclaves were given a choice to go with India or Bangladesh. Result was that we got a somewhat smaller amount of land but a somewhat larger number of people in the deal. And that was in very undeveloped areas basically surrounded by the other country.

If we go with chicken neck enlargement, we will necessarily have to give current Indian citizens the option of staying back in India. Will they? Of course. You tell me, you have a job in India, or a degree or school leaving certificate from India. Neither of these will do you any good if you are suddenly moved to Bangladesh.

Also, the enclave issue was 2 sided - both countries wanted it to be sorted out. Expanding of chicken neck will be purely our ask. Bangladesh isn't even permitting overland transit to the NE, why would they do a land swap?

We should have got our corridor, chicken neck thickening or sea access sorted out in 1971. We missed that opportunity.
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We are seeing the recent events with Nepal and the influence Chinese has developed there, and how it has created some headaches for India with a neighbour with whom it enjoyed friendly relations for decades in the north.

Now, India's eastern neighbour Bangladesh is being influenced by China in pretty much the same way. India has a more complicated history with this young nation which it helped come into existence, but has been drifting away from it in recent years.

Is Bangladesh falling into a Chinese 'debt trap'?
Bangladesh and China have inked billions worth of infrastructure deals. Investment from China promises advantages, but many remain concerned that reliance on Chinese money will make Dhaka beholden to Beijing.

https://www.dw.com/en/is-bangladesh-fal ... a-49556829
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‘Calf concealed inside a carcass of a dead animal’: BSF exposes cruel new techniques adopted by cattle smugglers along India-Bangladesh border
https://www.opindia.com/2020/06/bsf-ind ... ssion=true
The Border Security Force on Monday exposed a cruel method of smuggling adopted by cow smugglers along the India-Bangladesh border in West Bengal after they retrieved a live calf tied up and hidden inside a carcass floating in the river.

According to the officials, a river patrol of the border-guarding force took notice of a drifting carcass in the Mahananda river in the Malda district on Sunday, and on investigation found a live cattle inside it.

“When the carcass of the animal was cut open, a calf whose legs were tied with ropes and eyes covered with a piece of cloth was recovered,” the BSF said.

The BSF further added that the carcass was strapped with water hyacinth (a type of water grass) and banana trunk to keep it afloat. The nose of the animal was visible from a perforation made in the carcass, the BSF official revealed.

“Cow smugglers along the border have started embracing the cruellest and ruthless methods of smuggling the cattle across and along the border,” the BSF said, adding that the force has “intensified its vigil” to uncover the unconventional and new methods adopted by the cow smugglers amidst the monsoons when the rivers are in spate and the smugglers use it to their advantage to aggressively transport the cattle to the Bangladesh side.
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New trade routes to North East (via Bangladesh sea) and Bhutan open
https://www.deshgujarat.com/2020/07/16/ ... utan-open/

New Delhi: Union Minister of State for Shipping (I/C) Mansukh Mandaviya today flagged off the first trial container ship from Kolkata to Agartala through Chattogram Port of Bangladesh, in a virtual ceremony. This has been done under the Agreement on use of Chattogram and Mongla Ports for movement of India’s transit cargo through Bangladesh.

The consignment of the trial movement includes two TEUs carrying TMT steel bars destined for West Tripura district and two TEUs carrying pulses destined for Karimganj, Assam. After reaching Chattogram, the consignment will move to Agartala on Bangladeshi trucks.

The trial runs highlight the efforts that both sides have undertaken to strengthen the connectivity between Bangladesh and the North Eastern states of India, as per the understanding reached between the two countries at the highest level, during the visit of Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina to India in October 2019, when the Standard Operating Procedures for the use of Chattogram and Mongla ports for movement of goods to and from India, were concluded. This movement further strengthens long standing partnership between India and Bangladesh.

Under the Protocol on Inland Water Transit and Trade, in addition to the six existing Ports of Call, five more in each country have been added recently. Dredging of inland waterway routes is ongoing under an MoU, signed by the two countries on development of fairway in selected stretches of Bangladesh waterways with the Government of India bearing 80% of the project expenditure and the balance being borne by the Government of Bangladesh.

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According to MaritimeGateway, during a visit to India, Prime Minister of Bangladesh, Sheikh Hasina had agreed to allow Indian trade use Chattogram and Mongla ports. This enables India to carry freight using Bangladesh’s river, rail lines and roads. As per the SOP, goods that reach Chattogram and Mongla sea ports, will be carried to Agartala (Tripura) via Akhaura; Dawki (Meghalaya) via Tamabil; Sutarkandi (Assam) via Sheola, and Srimantpur (Tripura) via Bibirbazar. Thus, the landlocked Assam, Meghalaya and Tripura states will be able to access open sea trade routes through Chattogram and Mongla ports.

In another development today, a new trade route has been opened between Bhutan and India. India’s ambassador in Bhutan Ruchira Kamboj made this announcement on Twitter.

Wion TV in its article says: The new route for Pasakha Industrial Estate in Bhutan will decongest vehicular traffic along the Jaigaon-Phuentsholing route and boost bilateral trade & commerce. It is especially beneficial for the movement of heavy vehicles like trucks and industrial raw materials from India into Bhutan.

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Bangladesh PM snubs Imran's eorts to raise Kashmir in bilateral conversation.

Pakistan PM's efforts to strike a chord with his Bangladeshi counterpart Sheikh Hasina over Kashmir and SAARC was snubbed with Dhaka’s statement on telephone conversation totally ignoring both the issues.

Pakistan PM Imran Khan telephoned Hasina on Wednesday afternoon but did not receive any positive response in the backdrop of ruling Awami League’s difficult ties with Pakistan for decades. Awami League had been at the forefront of fight against Pak Army and ISI in 1971 and suered maximum in the genocide.

Pakistan’s role in assassination of Hasina's father and Bangladesh’s rst leader has been widely acknowledged. ISIbacked terror groups have been active in Bangladesh under BNP-Jamaat rule. But the Hasina government cracked down after it returned to power in 2008. Pak spy agency’s eorts to support BNP at last elections in 2018 was also foiled.

The statements by Pakistan and Bangladesh governments following the conversation were contrasting.

The foreign ministry of Pakistan issued a statement as did the oice of the Bangladesh Prime Minister’s Office. While Pakistan‘s statement said that Imran Khan spoke of the “grave situation” in what he called “Indian occupied Jammu and Kashmir,” and the need for an early resolution of the problem, the Bangladesh government statement is totally silent on Jammu and Kashmir.

While Pakistan has issued a nine paragraph statement, the Bangladesh government statement consists of two paragraphs.

Pakistan said Khan has invited Hasina to visit Pakistan but there is no reference to her acceptance. The Bangladeshi statement does not have any reference to it.
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china seems to be behind these alleged "snubs" because it is very keen to increase its influence in beediland and also open another front against India using the hostile and jehadi beedis.

so the han influence has spread in nepal, beediland and lanka and all of them have become belligerent towards India.


Bangladesh’s snub another blow for India


JULY 27, 2020

As for Bangladesh, it has refused Indian requests for talks several times since Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s administration passed the Citizenship Amendment Act on December 11, 2019. The CAA allows granting of Indian citizenship for Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains, Parsis and Christians from Afghanistan, Bangladesh and Pakistan who entered Indian territory before December 31, 2014.

Although the Indian government had praised the Bangladeshi government for taking measures to protect religious minorities, the CAA allows non-Muslim migrants who entered India before December 2014 from Bangladesh to apply for citizenship by claiming they had been persecuted. Hasina has been in power since January 2009.

Bangladeshi Foreign Minister A K Abdul Momen canceled his trip at the time of boarding the aircraft for New Delhi that was scheduled for December 12-14, 2019.

Indian Ministry of External Affairs spokesman Anurag Srivastava tweeted that Momen had canceled his India trip because of his busy schedule coinciding with Martyred Intellectuals Day and Victory Day in Bangladesh, adding that the Bangladeshi state minister for foreign affairs, Shahriar Alam, and the foreign secretary were also out of the country.

However, it was widely believed that Momen and his cabinet colleague Home Minister Asaduzzaman Khan canceled their India trip over their dissatisfaction with the situation developing out of BJP government’s passing of the controversial CAA.
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Bangladesh refuses talks with India due to annoyance with CAA.

https://asiatimes.com/2020/07/banglades ... for-india/

Translation: We reserve the right to persecute Hindus and Buddhists, but you must not protect them. It is a violation of our rights to attack the kafirs.
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From the linked report.^^^
“Bangladesh has not even sent a note of appreciation to India in response to Indian assistance for the Covid-19 pandemic.”
That is plain thanklessness; and only a few people with anti-India mind set can classify that as a snub. Basically Bangladesh would still remain a thank less nation who wants help and also rights to persecute non-Muslims. And even NDTV has report India Flags Off 10 Locomotives To Bangladesh Further Boosting Bilateral Ties.
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Bangladesh too on the Chinese radar

Bangladesh too on the Chinese radar

Bangladesh, like many countries, is struggling with the challenge of the Chinese-origin Covid-19 as well as corruption charges against health officials.


29th July 2020
Pinak Ranjan Chakravarty

Bangladesh, like many countries, is struggling with the challenge of the Chinese-origin COVID-19 as well as corruption charges against health officials. The director-general of its health services was sacked recently. An unauthorised hospital in Dhaka was caught issuing false COVID negative certificates. Its owner has been arrested. Adding to the challenge is the massive flooding this season. Bangladesh and India are no strangers to the annual havoc. In India, flooding has inundated large tracts of land in Assam. The Ganga-Brahmaputra jugalbandi creates one of the largest deltas in Bangladesh and the humungous volume of water these two rivers discharge during the monsoon causes untold death and destruction.

Recent comments made by a Kolkata-based Bengali newspaper on China granting duty-free entry to 97% of Bangladeshi products caused a minor kerfuffle. Bangladesh, as an LDC (least developed country), has been asking Beijing for this facility for several years but avoided any media clamour, which is the preferred tool against India on contentious issues—border killings being one of them. China’s move soon after the bloody Galwan clashes led to speculation about its motives.

The Kolkata newspaper called it Khairati, meaning charity, and Bangladeshis took umbrage to this characterisation, triggering outrage in media and social media. Several social media comments supported China on the Galwan clashes, exposing latent anti-India sentiments. There is no media outrage against China for spreading COVID. China’s role in supporting Pakistan’s attempt to brutally suppress Bangladesh’s freedom struggle is long forgotten, as is the fact that China refused to recognise Bangladesh as an independent country till after the assassination of Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rehman, hailed as father of the nation. Times have changed. China has successfully bought the silence of Bangladeshi media and many others.

The media clamour drew in the Bangladesh foreign minister, who tried to calm things down and refused to make any official protest. The Kolkata newspaper helped by issuing an apology. This issue again highlighted unusual sensitivity about China, which has been wooing Bangladesh with billions of dollars in investments. All of India’s neighbours have joined Beijing’s BRI and China’s penetration in India’s neighbourhood is in top gear. Bangladesh has latched on to the “China Card”, publicly calling India and China development partners. Pakistan is already a client state and Nepal is on a similar track. Bhutan is under pressure with China raising fresh claims on the unmarked border. Bangladesh is now on the Chinese radar as part of its policy of creating turbulence in India’s relations with her neighbours.

Meanwhile, not much attention has been paid by the media to the birth of a new political party in May as COVID spread its tentacles. Established by former members of the pro-Pakistani Islamist Party, Jamaat-e-Islami (JeI), after almost a year’s preparation, this was a move waiting to happen, though the timing seems somewhat strange. The new political party, first named Jana Akaankhaar (Public Aspiration) Bangladesh, was later renamed Amar Bangladesh Party (ABP). The founding members of this new party are those who were expelled from the JeI.

The JeI, notorious for its radical Islamic views and collaboration with the genocidal Pakistan Army, was accused of war crimes and several of its top leaders were convicted and executed after convictions by the War Crimes Tribunal. Some JeI leaders were expelled for attempting to reform the party, for making it more acceptable to the people of Bangladesh. The stigma of collaboration with Pakistan was the primary factor. The so-called reformers wanted JeI leaders, accused of war crimes, to step aside from leadership positions and formally apologise for their role in the 1971 War of Liberation. This led to an internal struggle culminating in the expulsion of the so-called reformers.

The ABP announced that it had decided not to join the “politics of corruption and looting” and work for the “rights of the people”. The new party hopes to position itself by paying homage to “all the martyrs and patriots, including freedom fighters and those who gave their lives in the language movement” and aims to “turn the country into a welfare state, regardless of race, caste, religion, and forging national unity in the spirit of the War of Liberation”. Declaring that the party “will not be based on religion nor on any ideology”, it has avoided mentioning secularism.

The first salvo against the new party came from the Ghatak Dalal Nirmul Committee, which has campaigned relentlessly for trials against war criminals. The Committee called the new party an “act of deception”. It has alleged that the ABP remains committed to Maududi’s ideals and Wahaabi philosophy that contain the seeds of fascism and jihadi radicalism. Pointing out the atrocities committed by the JeI’s student wing Islami Chattra Shibir since it was rehabilitated by the military dictator Gen Zia-ur-Rahman (who usurped power in 1977), it reminded the public that Shibir terrorists all operated with the patronage of the BNP-JeI coalition government. It labelled the ABP as new wine in an old bottle.

The ABP will not have an easy path in Bangladesh’s contested polity. In the eyes of much of the population, it will be regarded as a clone of the JeI. Voters seem to prefer mainstream political parties, underlining thereby their preference for keeping Islamists away from state power. The Islamists understand this and have toiled hard to build their influence in education and social welfare domains. The ABP is likely to fragment the Islamist vote further and, therefore, should not worry the Awami League. The BNP, however, stands to lose as it cannot expect the JeI to obtain enough seats to form an effective coalition when it comes to mustering a majority in Parliament. From India’s perspective, China’s machinations in Bangladesh will need monitoring closely.

Pinak Ranjan Chakravarty
Former Ambassador, Ex-Secretary in MEA & currently a Visiting Fellow at ORF, Delhi

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Sachin wrote:From the linked report.^^^
“Bangladesh has not even sent a note of appreciation to India in response to Indian assistance for the Covid-19 pandemic.”
That is plain thanklessness; and only a few people with anti-India mind set can classify that as a snub. Basically Bangladesh would still remain a thank less nation who wants help and also rights to persecute non-Muslims. And even NDTV has report India Flags Off 10 Locomotives To Bangladesh Further Boosting Bilateral Ties.
not to mention

In A First, Indian Railways Transports 51 Tata Ace Trucks To Bangladesh From Uttar Pradesh's Bareilly
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https://thediplomat.com/2020/08/chinas- ... verplayed/
China’s Stake in Bangladesh Is Overplayed
The China-India conflict has inspired more paternalism against Bangladesh’s rapidly developing economy .
By Adam Pitman, August 08, 2020

Bangladesh’s relationship with China is in the headlines again. As China-India relations deteriorated following their border skirmishes, journalists and think tanks zeroed-in on a new trade agreement between China and Bangladesh. Some called it “charity,” a “dual deficit and debt trap,” or a “diplomatic victory for China.”
Unfortunately, this is nothing new. China hawks, particularly in South Asia, routinely malign Bangladesh for trade and investment from China. The problem is that critics overlook the relationship’s limits and, ultimately, Bangladesh’s capacity. These paternalistic narratives are steeped in an outdated view of Bangladesh, which threatens to alienate a country that has become a model for economic development.
The recent trade agreement is a good example of how this commentary warps reality. On July 1, China increased the number of products Bangladesh could export tariff free to China, from 60 percent to 97 percent of their tariff line. China’s concession falls under its preferential tariff program for least developed countries (LDCs), which was unveiled in 2002 and applies to 40 other countries. The primary reason these products weren’t zero-rated to date was that Bangladesh opted for tariff reductions under the Asia Pacific Trade Agreement (APTA), which offered less stringent rules of origin in comparison to the LDC program.
Rather than charity, a trap, or one-sided victory, Bangladesh’s decision to migrate to the LDC program reflects its interest in diversifying exports. It is unlikely to put a major dent in Bangladesh’s trade deficit with China, but it can’t hurt, and it could inspire investment from companies that want to shift supply chains away from China, while retaining market access. But Bangladesh also gets singled out for the investments it receives from China. The Chinese investment plans announced in October 2016 are illustrative. China and Bangladesh signed 27 memoranda of understanding (MoUs), valued at $24 billion for Bangladesh; Chinese and Bangladeshi companies on the sidelines entered 13 joint ventures (JVs), valued at $13.6 billion.
China had been busy in the neighborhood around this time, promising Pakistan $46 billion in April 2015, and India $22 billion in May 2015. Still, many foreign observers came to view Bangladesh’s deals within the context of a potential debt trap, or China’s tightening grip on Bangladesh.
While deals under China’s Belt and Road Initiative – of which Bangladesh is a member – are opaque, only five of the MoUs from 2016 were implemented by the end of 2019.Bangladesh scrapped one project – the $1.6 billion Dhaka-Sylhet highway – after blacklisting the contractor, China Harbor and Engineering Company (CHEC), for attempting to bribe officials. Incidentally, CHEC constructed Hambantota Port in Sri Lanka, which analysts often cite as an example of China’s debt traps: Sri Lanka leased the port to China for 99 years to manage its debt servicing costs.
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https://www.rediff.com/news/report/bdes ... 200813.htm
B'desh court indicts country's 1st Hindu Chief Justice in graft case
By Anisur Rahman, August 13, 2020
A Dhaka court on Thursday indicted Bangladesh's first Hindu Chief Justice Surendra Kumar Sinha and 10 others on charges of embezzling 40 million taka from a bank, a court official said.

The indictment comes seven months after another Dhaka court issued an arrest warrant against the 69-year-old ex-chief justice who lives in the United States and was described as a "fugitive" by the Anti-Corruption Commission in its chargesheet.
"The court today framed charges against S K Sinha and 10 others, beginning their trial in the Farmers Bank scandal," said a prosecution lawyer in Dhaka.
He said six of the accused in the case were former officials of the bank while among the rest includes a reported aide of Sinha.
The prosecutor said only three of the accused faced the trial in person as the rest were "on the run to evade justice".
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Bangladesh have done well economically in the recent past and no one is disputing it. However the BD penchant for premature celebration and unwarranted display of hubris is not limited to cricket.
South Asia Has a New Economic Leader. Will the World Take Note?
Bangladesh — the overcrowded, overpopulated flood-prone state that, founded in 1971, is barely older than the internet — is now one of the richest countries in South Asia. The region was rocked by this week’s data that Bangladesh’s GDP per capita will exceed India’s this year, despite India having a 25 percent lead just five years ago.

There is no doubt about what has tipped the balance: COVID-19. While India has struggled to bring the virus under control, Bangladesh’s data-led innovative public health approach and rapidly improving digital infrastructure has allowed the economy to continue growing. But will the world take note, and realize that there are newer (and more stable) South Asian partners beyond the traditional ones? Will the new “Global Britain” prioritize the Bengal Tiger for a trade deal? And will the U.S. president (whether that’s Donald Trump or Joe Biden, come January 2021) consider Bangladesh a priority in South Asia, or stick with familiar partners?
China is the best example of how swift and effective pandemic management can support continued economic growth (consumer spending there has already returned to pre-pandemic levels and its GDP grew 5 percent in the last quarter).
This change in South Asia’s economic pecking order, combined with improving social indicators and rapid digitalization, could mean that many global powers will pivot more of their attention toward Dhaka.

The shift is overdue. Since India’s independence, it has understandably been the focus of the region’s economic and political activity. The region itself is often referred to as the Indian Subcontinent, perhaps a colonial hangover based on generations of Brits who interacted with an India that was essentially the only significant state in the region (not only modern day Pakistan and Bangladesh, but also Burmese territory was part of Colonial India).
But now things have changed, most notably in Bangladesh. Avoiding the tribal or sectarian divisions that have plagued Pakistan and increasingly blighted India, Dhaka has created a resilient economy and society, and maintained a diplomatic strategy that allows strategic partnerships with a range of competing world powers.

Economically, it would be unfair to describe its GDP per capita eclipsing India’s as a pandemic-related fluke: Bangladesh has long been one of the fastest-growing economies in the world and has recently entered the ranks of middle income countries, with the aim of becoming a developed country by 2041.
Beyond economic growth, the realignment of power across South Asia raises important diplomatic opportunities. As the United States attempts to maintain its role in the region, Bangladesh may be a crucial partner, particularly given Dhaka’s strategic partnership with Beijing.
Ashfaq Zaman is director of the Dhaka Forum and co-founder of CNI News.
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The success is going to their head....they will start claiming the NE and Odisha assumingtheir economy expands. We need another 4-5 divisions in the NE as a strategic reserve to counter Bangladesh's 8 odd divisions should they start getting ideas.
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I'm being reminded of the infamous snake dance in some T20 match couple of years back...
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I am waiting for the rona dhona when Indian economy will pick up speed again once the effects of Covid lockdown wears off. Should be fun. Like visiting bangla cricket forums after a cricket match.
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Paul wrote:The success is going to their head....they will start claiming the NE and Odisha assumingtheir economy expands. We need another 4-5 divisions in the NE as a strategic reserve to counter Bangladesh's 8 odd divisions should they start getting ideas.
That we need in either case . Its only a matter of time before our eastern border with Bangladesh becomes our 3rd front. Sheikh Hasina is 73 and Khaleda Zia is 75, the next generation will let all this praise go to their heads and would want to flex their muscles in the neighborhood . In a way, a semi-hot border may be to our advantage to monitor and cut down on the illegal immigration.
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The 'BD economy overtaking India' narrative is based on dubious statistics and cherry picking a specific (and limited) period in time that covers exactly the phase when the Indian economy had a precipitous drop due to strict COVID lockdown and before it had a chance to rebound. This was cooked up to bash Modi but funnily the BDs seem to be taking it seriously. :D

Having said that India (both centre and states) need to get their act together quickly on labour and land reform or long term they will pull ahead.

Also, it is undeniable that BD, which was at UP/WB/Bihar level has pulled well and truly ahead of those states - it's per-capita is 3x that of Bihar, and it is no coincidence that those are the states pulling down the overall per-capita in India. This basically means that there is a huge challenge ahead with those states, and it also means that if the right changes are made they can rapidly grow just like BD did.
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I have gone through IMF, data is has been clearly cooked, lets carry on, Let BD's take it seriously- in reality it will not matter. In a few years IMF will be forced to admit the truth.
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Aditya_V wrote:I have gone through IMF, data is has been clearly cooked, lets carry on, Let BD's take it seriously- in reality it will not matter. In a few years IMF will be forced to admit the truth.
That may indeed be the case.

But it should be equally worrying for all that BD has clearly overtaken WB in terms of per capita GDP. At the time of partition, WB had the better parts of Bengal - a more literate population, better schools & universities, better government infrastructure, more industry and connectivity. East Bengal was a swamp that produced jute and barely enough rice. Yet here we are.
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What is the real engine behind the economic growth for BD? Is it manufacturing like textiles?
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Dilbu wrote:What is the real engine behind the economic growth for BD? Is it manufacturing like textiles?
Mostly garment exports. They don't make most of the raw materials but have leveraged their low cost labour, decent social indicators (education and female workforce participation that is way superior to neighboring states of WB and Bihar) and preferential tariff concessions to great effect. But most importantly we have shot ourselves in the foot by hobbling our own industries in the same space with restrictive labour laws whereas they have very little regulation. To make a profit and compete at the global level you need to have garment factories with 10K++ workers rather than what our restrictive environment allows. Also, their cost of power is lower, which sort of indicates that they have less corruption with the distribution system than Indian states.
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Dilbu wrote:What is the real engine behind the economic growth for BD? Is it manufacturing like textiles?
almost 80% of exports and 20% of GDP is through textiles
https://comtrade.tradingeconomics.com/c ... t=2&title=

also this:

Bangladesh has Least Developed Country (LDC) status that qualifies it for duty-free market access or reduced tariff facilities to many developed and developing nations, globally. Bangladesh enjoys duty-free access to around 52 countries, including countries in the EU, the USA, Australia, Switzerland, Japan, Turkey, Russia, Norway, New Zealand, China, South Korea, Thailand, Malaysia, and India, for the trade of many products.
from: https://medium.com/@stitchdiary/what-ma ... 83aa37edfc

according the Hans Rosling the major driver for BD has been population control and women being part of work force
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPTwE0qIuNA
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