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Re: Bangladesh News and Discussion

Postby chetak » 22 Apr 2020 15:05

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Reports: One more famous Bangladesh terrorist arrested from Bengal.

NIA arrested Risaldar Moslemuddin, convicted for murdering the first president of Bangladesh, Sheikh Mujibur Rahman.

The entire operation was done without informing Bengal Police



https://www.thedailystar.net/frontpage/news/bangabandhu-killer-moslem-held-india-1895095


According to a report of Kolkata-based media, Moslem was living in Thakurnagar area of North 24 Parganas. He was running a traditional herbal medicine shop there, identifying himself as Dr Dutta.

Anandabazar, a popular Bangla newspaper in India, reported that Dhaka informed the Indian intelligence that it would be tough for them to take back Moslem to the country after arresting him from India due to the ongoing lockdown.

The Indian intelligence handed over Moslem to the Bangladesh intelligence at an unguarded bordering point after his arrest, it reports, quoting Indian intelligence source.

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Re: Bangladesh News and Discussion

Postby mappunni » 02 May 2020 09:16

When relief comes with a subtle offer to convert

Member of a voluntary organization has been accused of urging Hindus to convert to Islam when providing relief in Sreemangal upazila of Moulvibazar.

https://www.thedailystar.net/coronavirus-deadly-new-threat/news/when-relief-comes-subtle-offer-convert-1897597

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Re: Bangladesh News and Discussion

Postby Gerard » 02 May 2020 09:18

Risaldar Moslemuddin


They ran out of hemp rope in Bangladesh? He hasn't gone to the gallows yet?

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Postby srin » 02 May 2020 10:36

I'm worried about the BD and WB situation. We are one BD election away (the wrong Begum comes to power or worse, JEI) from having additional one and half front war situation (insurgency in WB).

Not sure why we didn't expand the chicken neck or connect Tripura to BoB after 1971 victory.

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Re: Bangladesh News and Discussion

Postby Rsatchi » 02 May 2020 11:09

srin wrote:I'm worried about the BD and WB situation. We are one BD election away (the wrong Begum comes to power or worse, JEI) from having additional one and half front war situation (insurgency in WB).

Not sure why we didn't expand the chicken neck or connect Tripura to BoB after 1971 victory.

Not just this one instance, but across the board our 'Founding Fathers' were too immersed in the 'Ahimsa' and 'Non violence' and 'Satyagraha' that had been inculcated into the national psyche including the baboos for few decades.
Compare this to US of A consolidating its borders after the birth of the nation either by buying off the land or by aggression!
'48, '62, '65 but mostly '71 was our time to reorganise but we messed up big time :eek:

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Postby chetak » 02 May 2020 13:44

Rsatchi wrote:
srin wrote:I'm worried about the BD and WB situation. We are one BD election away (the wrong Begum comes to power or worse, JEI) from having additional one and half front war situation (insurgency in WB).

Not sure why we didn't expand the chicken neck or connect Tripura to BoB after 1971 victory.

Not just this one instance, but across the board our 'Founding Fathers' were too immersed in the 'Ahimsa' and 'Non violence' and 'Satyagraha' that had been inculcated into the national psyche including the baboos for few decades.
Compare this to US of A consolidating its borders after the birth of the nation either by buying off the land or by aggression!
'48, '62, '65 but mostly '71 was our time to reorganise but we messed up big time :eek:


In 1947, leaders on both sides did what they considered important :

one side concentrated on building a brand

while the other side concentrated on building a dynasty.

everything followed from that because the political successors on both sides, the baboodom (or the army + isi) and all the house negroes just set about enhancing and furthering what was vital to their petty personal interests and financial gain.

In both cases, malicious offshore entities have had a free run in the clever shaping of the national narrative and they have succeeded to a very high degree in their objectives of "othering".

regarding the chicken neck, I am certain that there would have been umpteen attempts and concrete proposals made to beediland to help better India's strategic and tactical options in this specific geographical area.

The cunning and ungrateful beedis have had a dhobis list of grievances against India since before partition so, after the 1971 war, when the beedis were certain that India would withdraw, they would have trotted out their dhobie's list of grievances cleverly repackaged as little gifts where it would be "customary" for the big brother to gift to the little sister when she moved into her new home without the expectation of receiving anything in return.

it's all taqiya onlee. BTW, the beedis have never been our "friends" at any time and nor will they ever be.

No agreement yet simply means that the beedi hopes for a big bang settlement by India completely in their favor has not yet faded and they are holding out for it.

The recent gifting away of thousands of acres of Indian borderland to the beedis by Modi has only reinforced their firm belief that they can make Indian do what they want it to do.

After the disastrous IWT agreement by India where "pandit" neverwho was outclassed and outgunned and made a complete fool of, by ameriki guile and paki cunning, the beedis have always hoped for a similar disproportionate "settlement" on the teesta waters and many other border enclave and other one sided preferential trade issues favoring the little sister, as is her right.

In the end, the malicious dynastie turned out to be as harmful to India's strategic interests as they always were, especially when so much of Indian blood had been spilled to gain unassailable advantages that were squandered away at the altar of petty personal perceptions of public image as well as the eternal colonial mindset of those in power, in their need to always seek the whitey's approval and validation.

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Re: Bangladesh News and Discussion

Postby Rsatchi » 02 May 2020 14:38

chetak wrote:
Rsatchi wrote:Not just this one instance, but across the board our 'Founding Fathers' were too immersed in the 'Ahimsa' and 'Non violence' and 'Satyagraha' that had been inculcated into the national psyche including the baboos for few decades.
Compare this to US of A consolidating its borders after the birth of the nation either by buying off the land or by aggression!
'48, '62, '65 but mostly '71 was our time to reorganise but we messed up big time :eek:


In 1947, leaders on both sides did what they considered important :
concentrated on building a dynasty.

In the end, the malicious dynastie turned out to be as harmful to India's strategic interests as they always were, especially when so much of Indian blood had been spilled to gain unassailable advantages that were squandered away at the altar of petty personal perceptions of public image as well as the eternal colonial mindset of those in power, in their need to always seek the whitey's approval and validation.[/quote]
Chetakji
I don't have too many objections to the Dynasty as long as they afford political stability, especially in a country like India with immediate post-Independence problems Like: Poverty, Communicable diseases, low literacy rates, agrarian society utterly dependent on Monsoon for crops and no industry worth mentioning.
But those working under the leadership of the dynastic rule:
1. pandered to the leader's ego
2. sold themselves for 30 shekels so speak to the goras
3. perpetuated the myth of the 'Gora Sahib's' and 'Burra Sahib's'
4. Never allowed the real Panchayat Raj to be established (i.e., devolution of power to the lowest strata of the society)
We cant therefore keep blaming everything on 'Banditji' and his Dynasty!!
We as a Nation have to 'Kop some of the Blame'
The nation was united in '47 as one, but leaders squandered the opportunity
Even Indira had a chance in '71 but the underlings sold her out!!!
Hope with this two term 'BJP' in power Manthan will churn the National Psyche to such an extent that there wont be a chance to going back to the bad ways!!

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Re: Bangladesh News and Discussion

Postby chetak » 02 May 2020 15:12

Rsatchi wrote:
chetak wrote:


In 1947, leaders on both sides did what they considered important :
concentrated on building a dynasty.

In the end, the malicious dynastie turned out to be as harmful to India's strategic interests as they always were, especially when so much of Indian blood had been spilled to gain unassailable advantages that were squandered away at the altar of petty personal perceptions of public image as well as the eternal colonial mindset of those in power, in their need to always seek the whitey's approval and validation.[/quote]
Chetakji
I don't have too many objections to the Dynasty as long as they afford political stability, especially in a country like India with immediate post-Independence problems Like: Poverty, Communicable diseases, low literacy rates, agrarian society utterly dependent on Monsoon for crops and no industry worth mentioning.
But those working under the leadership of the dynastic rule:
1. pandered to the leader's ego
2. sold themselves for 30 shekels so speak to the goras
3. perpetuated the myth of the 'Gora Sahib's' and 'Burra Sahib's'
4. Never allowed the real Panchayat Raj to be established (i.e., devolution of power to the lowest strata of the society)
We cant therefore keep blaming everything on 'Banditji' and his Dynasty!!
We as a Nation have to 'Kop some of the Blame'
The nation was united in '47 as one, but leaders squandered the opportunity
Even Indira had a chance in '71 but the underlings sold her out!!!
Hope with this two term 'BJP' in power Manthan will churn the National Psyche to such an extent that there wont be a chance to going back to the bad ways!!


The siliguri corridor or the "chicken neck" has been in the eyes of the world community for decades now.

India has been aware of this strategic weak point also for decades and yet we have foolishly allowed inimical beedi and roper settlements to flourish here.

We should simply declare it all as a smallish UT and administer it from dilli with a uniformed military or intelligence guy as the governor, citing national security issues and making it a huge airforce and army cantonment with civilian laws nonapplicable for the most part in this region.

the rolers want to break off India at this point and they have had a head start, thanks to "pundit" neverwho who allowed unrestricted access to the amerikis to this part of India so now you hear war cries of christian state of nagalim, nagaland and what not.

the ropers, slightly slower off the mark, are breeding out the Hindus as well as enforcing religious apartheid by importing beedis to ensure faster demographic changes on their way to absolute political power in the border districts of India and they too want to break off India at this chicken neck region.

To India's detriment, the amerikis, the britshits, the cheeni, the beedis, the saudis and the pakis all have nefarious designs on the chicken neck.

Ever since the failure of the xtian terrorist outfit the LTTE, to gain a foothold and flourish in the south, this has become the next "east timor" like hotspot.

The beedis are the only ones who can help but they have a sharp knife held literally to India's throat so why would they give up such an advantage. Even road access through beediland has come at a vastly disproportionate cost to India in terms of India providing preferential road, air and rail links favoring the beedis and such links are leading into the Indian hinterland.

India knows what the beedis want in return to help us secure the chicken neck but it has not been made public yet.

I have a very strong feeling that it may involve some sort of a nepal type border agreement where the beedis have unrestricted access into India without passports, border controls or any other beedi documents.

Also, at some point, due to global warming, the melting ice will cause the oceans to rise. many parts of beediland is fairly low lying, so their affected populations may have nowhere else to go but to force their way into India.

their situation is not as bad as the maldives but still, they will be significantly impacted and maybe that is one of the main reasons that they are holding on to their only trump card and preventing the widening of the siliguri corridor or the chicken neck by India or even allowing India to bypass it completely using a permanent solution by either using completely bought out or long term leased beedi land

Why is the border fencing by India being held up, is it because this beedi govt does not want it

just look at what all India has tried to do. I have no idea of the outcome but beedi intransigence and sheer islamic cussedness is at the heart of all this.



A sea route to northeast in the making


A Burmese port on the Bay of Bengal has promised to solve the long-standing problem between Bangladesh and India.

Nov 19, 2008,


SHILLONG: As Bangladesh continues to deny India access to landlocked northeast through Chittagong port, a little-known Burmese port on the Bay of Bengal has promised to solve the long-standing problem.

Sittwe port on the Myanmar coast was not long ago a small village of fishing communities and farmers. Now, it could serve as a commercial sea route to the north-eastern states through Burmese territory.

A Union Commerce Ministry team, which recently came here in connection with a seminar, said that the port has attained immense strategic importance with India developing the port, expanding facilities to accommodate goods traffic under an agreement signed by the two governments in April, this year.

From Sittwe the Kaladan River will be made navigable for 225 km, up to Kaletwa (Myanmar). From there, a 62-km highway will take the traffic to the India-Myanmar border in the Indian state of Mizoram.

A road from the border will link the project to India's National Highway-54. The sea distance between Kolkata and Sittwe is about 540 km. India is financing the entire USD 103 million project.

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Re: Bangladesh News and Discussion

Postby dinesh_kimar » 02 May 2020 16:49

^IMHO, other nations with much poorer geography and land area have managed quite well, including Germany, Japan and the landlocked countries in Europe.

A cursory study of the map , which shows the Chicken neck, also confirms that it is bordered by Nepal and Bhutan.

At the very least, High speed rail / air corridors overflying these countries may be possible on reciprocal basis.

If our planners had any determination, we would look to develop either some nearby port like Cuttack in Orissa, with connectivity to the N-E region from there using high speed rail links,air corridors, etc. or improvement of existing ones for economical operations.

The low shipping charges can still be enjoyed substantially till some suitable mainland port.

Taking a Hobson's choice, lets assume that both Nepal and Bhutan deny us flight and rail on reciprocal basis (extremely unlikely being landlocked, with significant Indian supplies reaching them).

Then cant we develop the chicken neck area itself with a high speed rail line or air corridor ?

The chicken neck is certainly at least 20 km wide, the Japanese can work wonders with an area like that, they can pump in 50 trains a day on a two line track, as shown in Japan Railway Journal. (their operations room has no computers, only signalling and control systems).

But this is hard work. Its easier to go for a meeting with the Bangladeshis and negotiate.

Obviously, they wont respect anyone who cannot solve their own problems.

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Re: Bangladesh News and Discussion

Postby khan » 02 May 2020 21:09

dinesh_kimar wrote: Then cant we develop the chicken neck area itself with a high speed rail line or air corridor ?


iirc There already is a railway track from Kolkata to Guwahati. It just needs to be upgraded.

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Re: Bangladesh News and Discussion

Postby Shubham » 02 May 2020 21:31

We have to work with the width of land (around 20 km ) that we have . A hypothetical land swap with Bhutan wouldn't help because India-Bhutan border is just of foothills and anyways this border is slightly away from the chocking point.

In case of Nepal again our existing border ie north of panitanki, is similar foothills. At best we increase the width to about 28 km( if we can manage to get plains land to the west of panitanki ) and Not much change

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Re: Bangladesh News and Discussion

Postby Kati » 02 May 2020 21:45

chetak wrote:
Rsatchi wrote:
In 1947, leaders on both sides did what they considered important :
concentrated on building a dynasty.

In the end, the malicious dynastie turned out to be as harmful to India's strategic interests as they always were, especially when so much of Indian blood had been spilled to gain unassailable advantages that were squandered away at the altar of petty personal perceptions of public image as well as the eternal colonial mindset of those in power, in their need to always seek the whitey's approval and validation.[/quote]
Chetakji
I don't have too many objections to the Dynasty as long as they afford political stability, especially in a country like India with immediate post-Independence problems Like: Poverty, Communicable diseases, low literacy rates, agrarian society utterly dependent on Monsoon for crops and no industry worth mentioning.
But those working under the leadership of the dynastic rule:
1. pandered to the leader's ego
2. sold themselves for 30 shekels so speak to the goras
3. perpetuated the myth of the 'Gora Sahib's' and 'Burra Sahib's'
4. Never allowed the real Panchayat Raj to be established (i.e., devolution of power to the lowest strata of the society)
We cant therefore keep blaming everything on 'Banditji' and his Dynasty!!
We as a Nation have to 'Kop some of the Blame'
The nation was united in '47 as one, but leaders squandered the opportunity
Even Indira had a chance in '71 but the underlings sold her out!!!
Hope with this two term 'BJP' in power Manthan will churn the National Psyche to such an extent that there wont be a chance to going back to the bad ways!!


The siliguri corridor or the "chicken neck" has been in the eyes of the world community for decades now.

India has been aware of this strategic weak point also for decades and yet we have foolishly allowed inimical beedi and roper settlements to flourish here.

We should simply declare it all as a smallish UT and administer it from dilli with a uniformed military or intelligence guy as the governor, citing national security issues and making it a huge airforce and army cantonment with civilian laws nonapplicable for the most part in this region.

the rolers want to break off India at this point and they have had a head start, thanks to "pundit" neverwho who allowed unrestricted access to the amerikis to this part of India so now you hear war cries of christian state of nagalim, nagaland and what not.

the ropers, slightly slower off the mark, are breeding out the Hindus as well as enforcing religious apartheid by importing beedis to ensure faster demographic changes on their way to absolute political power in the border districts of India and they too want to break off India at this chicken neck region.

To India's detriment, the amerikis, the britshits, the cheeni, the beedis, the saudis and the pakis all have nefarious designs on the chicken neck.

Ever since the failure of the xtian terrorist outfit the LTTE, to gain a foothold and flourish in the south, this has become the next "east timor" like hotspot.

The beedis are the only ones who can help but they have a sharp knife held literally to India's throat so why would they give up such an advantage. Even road access through beediland has come at a vastly disproportionate cost to India in terms of India providing preferential road, air and rail links favoring the beedis and such links are leading into the Indian hinterland.

India knows what the beedis want in return to help us secure the chicken neck but it has not been made public yet.

I have a very strong feeling that it may involve some sort of a nepal type border agreement where the beedis have unrestricted access into India without passports, border controls or any other beedi documents.

Also, at some point, due to global warming, the melting ice will cause the oceans to rise. many parts of beediland is fairly low lying, so their affected populations may have nowhere else to go but to force their way into India.

their situation is not as bad as the maldives but still, they will be significantly impacted and maybe that is one of the main reasons that they are holding on to their only trump card and preventing the widening of the siliguri corridor or the chicken neck by India or even allowing India to bypass it completely using a permanent solution by either using completely bought out or long term leased beedi land

Why is the border fencing by India being held up, is it because this beedi govt does not want it

just look at what all India has tried to do. I have no idea of the outcome but beedi intransigence and sheer islamic cussedness is at the heart of all this.



A sea route to northeast in the making


A Burmese port on the Bay of Bengal has promised to solve the long-standing problem between Bangladesh and India.

Nov 19, 2008,


SHILLONG: As Bangladesh continues to deny India access to landlocked northeast through Chittagong port, a little-known Burmese port on the Bay of Bengal has promised to solve the long-standing problem.

Sittwe port on the Myanmar coast was not long ago a small village of fishing communities and farmers. Now, it could serve as a commercial sea route to the north-eastern states through Burmese territory.

A Union Commerce Ministry team, which recently came here in connection with a seminar, said that the port has attained immense strategic importance with India developing the port, expanding facilities to accommodate goods traffic under an agreement signed by the two governments in April, this year.

From Sittwe the Kaladan River will be made navigable for 225 km, up to Kaletwa (Myanmar). From there, a 62-km highway will take the traffic to the India-Myanmar border in the Indian state of Mizoram.

A road from the border will link the project to India's National Highway-54. The sea distance between Kolkata and Sittwe is about 540 km. India is financing the entire USD 103 million project.


Chetak Saar,
1. That Burmese port of Sittwae sits in Rohingya heartland. Also, transporting through Kalaidan river near the Mizo border is not easy, and then hauling by trucks another 65 km through mountainous roads will be an onerous job.
2. Far better option would be to keep AL in power in BD, and make use of the Chittagong-Sabroom (Tripura) route. I'm sure Hasiana will be back to power. They way Bharat is providing her personal security cover shouldn't go in vain.
3. While we are talking about the Siliguri chicken-neck area, one thing has been going (probably) unnoticed for our Dilli babus is that in the last ten years dubious western characters (mostly from khan-land) are setting bases in that area. The modus-operandi is pretty simple - marry nepalese women from Darjeeling area (in exchange let their family members emigrate to khan-land), get long-term visa, and then settle there. Then the next phase starts - build friendship with local police and BSF personnel - invite them for chai-biskoot, but serve them expensive liquor. (You have to see how the local police-BSF babus salivate with that.) .... :(

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Re: Bangladesh News and Discussion

Postby vimal » 02 May 2020 21:52

When relief comes with a subtle offer to convert


Members of ‘Bangla Aid’ were seen distributing relief to families in Noagaon village under Sreemangal upazila of Moulvibazar on April 22, 2020. Photo: Collected
Star Online Report
Member of a voluntary organisation has been accused of urging Hindus to convert to Islam when providing relief in Sreemangal upazila of Moulvibazar. This has led to widespread criticism on social media.


On April 22, a voluntary organisation called 'Bangla Aid' distributed relief to families in Noagaon village of Sreemangal's Sadar union amidst the coronavirus outbreak. On that day, the members of Bangla Aid informed that relief would be distributed among 60 Muslim and 20 Hindu families in the area.

As seen in a live video on Bangla Aid's Facebook page, a volunteer distributing relief said, "Even though Hindus persecuted Muslims in India, we have given relief to Hindus here. Now, if anyone converts to Islam, we'd welcome them."

Then the young volunteer spoke to a Hindu woman who was receiving relief. At one point during the conversation, he told the woman, "If you think Islam is right, you come to Islam."



Asked about this, Bangla Aid's spokesperson Sumon Mia -- who was in the live video -- said that their aim was to help the poor.

"I did not talk about any religious issues. My intention was to help 100 Muslim families in the Noagaon area, but later I felt that all those affected by the outbreak need relief. So, I also gave relief to Hindus. At that time, I wanted to explain to them how Muslims are being persecuted in India but how much we respect and love Hindus in Bangladesh. Moreover, I did not ask them directly to convert to Islam. I said they could come to our religion," he said about the Facebook live video.

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Re: Bangladesh News and Discussion

Postby chetak » 02 May 2020 22:20

Kati wrote:
chetak wrote:


Chetak Saar,
1. That Burmese port of Sittwae sits in Rohingya heartland. Also, transporting through Kalaidan river near the Mizo border is not easy, and then hauling by trucks another 65 km through mountainous roads will be an onerous job.
2. Far better option would be to keep AL in power in BD, and make use of the Chittagong-Sabroom (Tripura) route. I'm sure Hasiana will be back to power. They way Bharat is providing her personal security cover shouldn't go in vain.
3. While we are talking about the Siliguri chicken-neck area, one thing has been going (probably) unnoticed for our Dilli babus is that in the last ten years dubious western characters (mostly from khan-land) are setting bases in that area. The modus-operandi is pretty simple - marry nepalese women from Darjeeling area (in exchange let their family members emigrate to khan-land), get long-term visa, and then settle there. Then the next phase starts - build friendship with local police and BSF personnel - invite them for chai-biskoot, but serve them expensive liquor. (You have to see how the local police-BSF babus salivate with that.) .... :(



It's a open secret, sirji.

shameful but true.


Jibu D Mathew, a commandant with the BSF, slyly traveling by train along with his booty, was arrested, and over time, many more such arrests have been made too.



BSF officers with lavish lifestyle to be under scanner



Mar 11, 2018

BSF officers who lead a "lavish" lifestyle or are members of costly clubs would be identified as "suspects" under a new vigilance drive initiated by the force that guards sensitive Indian borders with Pakistan and Bangladesh.

A section of officials termed these criteria as "ridiculous".

The country's largest border guarding force regularly conducts a confidential exercise of identifying officials with suspicious credentials or for indulging in corrupt practices but some new parameters have recently been added for creating the inglorious list of shady personnel for 2017.

Sources said the latest move has come in the backdrop of the arrest of a senior BSF Commanding Officer (CO) by the CBI for his alleged nexus with smugglers while his posting along the Indo-Bangla border in West Bengal.

He was arrested by the central probe agency with Rs 45 lakh in cash as soon as he alighted a train in his hometown in Kerala.

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Re: Bangladesh News and Discussion

Postby Rsatchi » 06 May 2020 18:37

Kati wrote:
chetak wrote:
The siliguri corridor or the "chicken neck" has been in the eyes of the world community for decades now.

India has been aware of this strategic weak point also for decades and yet we have foolishly allowed inimical beedi and roper settlements to flourish here.

We should simply declare it all as a smallish UT and administer it from dilli with a uniformed military or intelligence guy as the governor, citing national security issues and making it a huge airforce and army cantonment with civilian laws nonapplicable for the most part in this region.

the rolers want to break off India at this point and they have had a head start, thanks to "pundit" neverwho who allowed unrestricted access to the amerikis to this part of India so now you hear war cries of christian state of nagalim, nagaland and what not.

the ropers, slightly slower off the mark, are breeding out the Hindus as well as enforcing religious apartheid by importing beedis to ensure faster demographic changes on their way to absolute political power in the border districts of India and they too want to break off India at this chicken neck region.

To India's detriment, the amerikis, the britshits, the cheeni, the beedis, the saudis and the pakis all have nefarious designs on the chicken neck.

Ever since the failure of the xtian terrorist outfit the LTTE, to gain a foothold and flourish in the south, this has become the next "east timor" like hotspot.

The beedis are the only ones who can help but they have a sharp knife held literally to India's throat so why would they give up such an advantage. Even road access through beediland has come at a vastly disproportionate cost to India in terms of India providing preferential road, air and rail links favoring the beedis and such links are leading into the Indian hinterland.

India knows what the beedis want in return to help us secure the chicken neck but it has not been made public yet.

I have a very strong feeling that it may involve some sort of a nepal type border agreement where the beedis have unrestricted access into India without passports, border controls or any other beedi documents.

Also, at some point, due to global warming, the melting ice will cause the oceans to rise. many parts of beediland is fairly low lying, so their affected populations may have nowhere else to go but to force their way into India.

their situation is not as bad as the maldives but still, they will be significantly impacted and maybe that is one of the main reasons that they are holding on to their only trump card and preventing the widening of the siliguri corridor or the chicken neck by India or even allowing India to bypass it completely using a permanent solution by either using completely bought out or long term leased beedi land

Why is the border fencing by India being held up, is it because this beedi govt does not want it

just look at what all India has tried to do. I have no idea of the outcome but beedi intransigence and sheer islamic cussedness is at the heart of all this.



A sea route to northeast in the making




Chetak Saar,
1. That Burmese port of Sittwae sits in Rohingya heartland. Also, transporting through Kalaidan river near the Mizo border is not easy, and then hauling by trucks another 65 km through mountainous roads will be an onerous job.
2. Far better option would be to keep AL in power in BD, and make use of the Chittagong-Sabroom (Tripura) route. I'm sure Hasiana will be back to power. They way Bharat is providing her personal security cover shouldn't go in vain.
3. While we are talking about the Siliguri chicken-neck area, one thing has been going (probably) unnoticed for our Dilli babus is that in the last ten years dubious western characters (mostly from khan-land) are setting bases in that area. The modus-operandi is pretty simple - marry nepalese women from Darjeeling area (in exchange let their family members emigrate to khan-land), get long-term visa, and then settle there. Then the next phase starts - build friendship with local police and BSF personnel - invite them for chai-biskoot, but serve them expensive liquor. (You have to see how the local police-BSF babus salivate with that.) .... :(

Just to further this discussion:
After '71 War India had occupied whole of East Pakistan.
Before the birth of the new nation, could we not have reorganised the borders in such a way:
1.Widen the chicken area by retaking the land.
2.Extended the Mizo border to include the Cox's bazaar and the surrounding land.
We would have easy land and sea route to the NE
We could have easily nixed the Chinese plans in BoB area.
Any reason why were so magnanimous!!
Also some of the 'Silver-Backs' on the Forum here might remember the Bangla Desh relief stamps that we were forced to use for every card(post card)/letter(remember the in-land letter)/cover etc
And now the behaviour/attitude of the Bangla Deshi's towards India :shock:

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Re: Bangladesh News and Discussion

Postby ricky_v » 09 May 2020 12:20

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Re: Bangladesh News and Discussion

Postby schinnas » 09 May 2020 14:46

Why can't we have a land swap between WB and Bangladesh to enlarge chicken neck corridor and give equivalent parts of makes populated by malsi instead to Bangladesh

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Re: Bangladesh News and Discussion

Postby yensoy » 09 May 2020 14:53

schinnas wrote:Why can't we have a land swap between WB and Bangladesh to enlarge chicken neck corridor and give equivalent parts of makes populated by malsi instead to Bangladesh

Land is one thing, population another.

We did have a swap a couple of years ago to fix the Cooch Behar enclaves; however residents of enclaves were given a choice to go with India or Bangladesh. Result was that we got a somewhat smaller amount of land but a somewhat larger number of people in the deal. And that was in very undeveloped areas basically surrounded by the other country.

If we go with chicken neck enlargement, we will necessarily have to give current Indian citizens the option of staying back in India. Will they? Of course. You tell me, you have a job in India, or a degree or school leaving certificate from India. Neither of these will do you any good if you are suddenly moved to Bangladesh.

Also, the enclave issue was 2 sided - both countries wanted it to be sorted out. Expanding of chicken neck will be purely our ask. Bangladesh isn't even permitting overland transit to the NE, why would they do a land swap?

We should have got our corridor, chicken neck thickening or sea access sorted out in 1971. We missed that opportunity.

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Re: Bangladesh News and Discussion

Postby amar_p » 14 Jun 2020 15:51

We are seeing the recent events with Nepal and the influence Chinese has developed there, and how it has created some headaches for India with a neighbour with whom it enjoyed friendly relations for decades in the north.

Now, India's eastern neighbour Bangladesh is being influenced by China in pretty much the same way. India has a more complicated history with this young nation which it helped come into existence, but has been drifting away from it in recent years.

Is Bangladesh falling into a Chinese 'debt trap'?
Bangladesh and China have inked billions worth of infrastructure deals. Investment from China promises advantages, but many remain concerned that reliance on Chinese money will make Dhaka beholden to Beijing.

https://www.dw.com/en/is-bangladesh-falling-into-a-chinese-debt-trap/a-49556829

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Re: Bangladesh News and Discussion

Postby darshan » 30 Jun 2020 11:08

‘Calf concealed inside a carcass of a dead animal’: BSF exposes cruel new techniques adopted by cattle smugglers along India-Bangladesh border
https://www.opindia.com/2020/06/bsf-ind ... ssion=true
The Border Security Force on Monday exposed a cruel method of smuggling adopted by cow smugglers along the India-Bangladesh border in West Bengal after they retrieved a live calf tied up and hidden inside a carcass floating in the river.

According to the officials, a river patrol of the border-guarding force took notice of a drifting carcass in the Mahananda river in the Malda district on Sunday, and on investigation found a live cattle inside it.

“When the carcass of the animal was cut open, a calf whose legs were tied with ropes and eyes covered with a piece of cloth was recovered,” the BSF said.

The BSF further added that the carcass was strapped with water hyacinth (a type of water grass) and banana trunk to keep it afloat. The nose of the animal was visible from a perforation made in the carcass, the BSF official revealed.

“Cow smugglers along the border have started embracing the cruellest and ruthless methods of smuggling the cattle across and along the border,” the BSF said, adding that the force has “intensified its vigil” to uncover the unconventional and new methods adopted by the cow smugglers amidst the monsoons when the rivers are in spate and the smugglers use it to their advantage to aggressively transport the cattle to the Bangladesh side.


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