Malegaon blasts and the limits of fake secularism

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Re: Malegaon blasts and the limits of fake secularism

Postby ramana » 24 Aug 2015 23:59

Glad to read Manohar Malgoankar's write up in Tribune. He was a great writer.

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Postby Arjun » 25 Aug 2015 13:35

gandharva wrote:B Raman, Chidambaram, Narayanan and Karkare have harmed national interests.

Above were the second-in-command to Sonia and Rahul on birthing the 'Hindu Terror' concept. Just recording this for posterity - I''m sure there will be a national commission of enquiry to indict and convict the guilty at some stage.

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Postby arun » 10 Nov 2015 14:30

X Posted from the “Great Indian Political Drama 2 – October 2015” thread.

Despite the many well documented depredations of Tipu Sultan against Hindu’s that negate the token acts of concern for Hindu’s by him, the Nehru-Gandhi family led Congress Party in Karnataka panders to the communal minority Mohammadden vote bank for narrow electoral gain by celebrating Tipu’s birth anniversary resulting in one protestor against the celebration being shot dead:

BJP calls Tipu Sultan a 'tyrant' amid violent protests on birth anniversary in Karnataka, 1 VHP leader killed

Separately article by Coorgi MA Deviah documenting the many cases of Tipu Sultan’s anti-Hindu activities:

Why the Coorgs are upset with Tipu Sultan and the Karnataka govt’s efforts to honour him

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Postby uddu » 10 Nov 2015 15:08

Person shot dead is a Hindu. So no intolerance and no award wapsi.l

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Postby arun » 10 Nov 2015 15:41

X Posted from the “Great Indian Political Drama 2 – October 2015” thread.

Nehru Gandhi family led Congress Party seems to have run into an unplanned problem in the celberating birth anniversary of Tipu Sultan with this sure shot minority communal vote bank move turning out to pit one Abrahamic religious group against another Abrahamic religious group.

While Mohammadden Abrahamics welcome celebrating Tipu Sultan’s birth anniversary Christist Abrahamics of Catholic sect, which I gather is the birth religion of Congress Party leader Sonia Gandhi, oppose celebration of Tipu Sultan birth anniversary.

Trying to be too clever by half and hoist by ones own petard come to mind :lol: :

Why Mangalore’s Catholics are joining RSS against Tipu Sultan

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Postby arun » 10 Nov 2015 16:05

X Posted from the “Great Indian Political Drama 2 – October 2015” thread.

“Tipu Sultan does not deserve the title "Tiger" of Mysore. Tipu was a religious fanatic. He was a tyrant.” :

Tipu Sultan – Making a 'Tiger' out of a tyrant

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Postby arun » 11 Nov 2015 09:56

arun wrote: ................{Snipped}................ Despite the many well documented depredations of Tipu Sultan against Hindu’s that negate the token acts of concern for Hindu’s by him, the Nehru-Gandhi family led Congress Party in Karnataka panders to the communal minority Mohammadden vote bank for narrow electoral gain by celebrating Tipu’s birth anniversary resulting in one protestor against the celebration being shot dead: ..............{Snipped}.................


“If Aurangzeb was the most fanatical Muslim king who reigned on the Mughal throne in Delhi at the start of the 18th century, his counterpart who matched him in both bigotry and cruelty in South India at the close of the same century was Tipu Sultan”:

The horrible truth about Tipu's gifts to Hindu temples : It was born out of political expediency and not religious tolerance.

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Postby Singha » 11 Nov 2015 10:37

I have in person seem Muslims pray at his grave in srirangapatna so he is held in high esteem in that community...he must have looked after his flock well.

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Postby Singha » 11 Nov 2015 10:40

Did not see anyone praying at humayun, lodhi or safdarjung tombs in Delhi. Tipu and hyder Ali graves though in asi site is like a active place with chadars, flowers, agarbatti and prayers.

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Postby prahaar » 11 Nov 2015 13:47

Singha wrote:I have in person seem Muslims pray at his grave in srirangapatna so he is held in high esteem in that community...he must have looked after his flock well.


Singhaji, the only qualification for such hero worship is pain caused to Kafir. At the grave of Afzal Khan (near Pune), there is an Urs every year, all he had done while alive in that region was kill people, burn villages and destroy temples.

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Postby habal » 11 Nov 2015 13:52

recently visited shivanasamudra near bangalore, and the entire island? is dotted with settlements of the faithful and mazars ? lots of faithfuls doing picnic during dussehra were camping on lakeside with entire family packed into 3 wheeler tata apè types and entire family is having day out with cooking food on stoves, lying on mats, playing badminton etc. Penetration into such remote areas should be Tipu influence.

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Postby Singha » 11 Nov 2015 14:21

well vellore-ambur-arcot-krishnagiri area was ruled by hyder ali and later nawab of arcot and abuts this area.

the ambur biryani you see in blr comes from there :lol:

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Postby arun » 12 Nov 2015 21:57

Bizarre comment by the Nehru-Gandhi family led Congress Party. The Congress Party seems to believe that any foreign national meeting an Indian Prime Minister is interfering in India’s internal affairs:

“For foreign nationals, who either have a communal bias or are ignorant about India, to fete Modi when the communal situation in India is highly disturbing and clearly the mood of the country has turned against him, would be an insult to the people of the country,” the Indian Overseas Congress (London) stated in a letter to the Europe India Forum, organisers of the event.

“It would also be an unacceptable attempt to influence Indians from abroad (by holding talks with David Cameron or holding such a function at Wembley?) and consequently an interference in the internal affairs of India,” the letter said.


From here:

Meeting Modi is an interference in India's internal affairs: Congress in London tells Cameron

:wink: Going by bizarre Nehru-Gandhi family led Congress Party formulation, would Sonia Gandhi talking to Prime Minister Modi constitute interference in India's internal affairs :?:

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Postby chetak » 12 Nov 2015 22:27

What about when the south african president met the mafia queen in dilli?? wasn't that an interference in India's internal affairs?? he knew full well that his host Modi, would not have appreciated such a gesture.

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Re: Malegaon blasts and the limits of fake secularism

Postby Rahul M » 12 Nov 2015 23:49

^^^ it was just a member of the 'world's most corrupt' club member meeting up another.
zuma is as corrupt as they come.

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Postby arun » 14 Nov 2015 10:40

Islamist Terror busted in Gujarat while Lutyens Media slept:

Niti Central

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Postby member_27987 » 15 Nov 2015 10:30

If one has studied how Italian families dictated and ran St. Peters religion in Rome, one gets how they operate. The Medici, Borgia etc. are prime examples of how they turn on their own Gods for money. Don't think the mainos are any different, except their corruption destroys a country that is not her own, and she is trying to carve it up for her children.

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Postby arun » 22 Nov 2015 18:02

X Posted from the Islamism Thread.

Tavleen Singh debunks two of the false theories floating around that are designed to provide a burqua for Mohammaddenism Terror to hide behind:

Since the Paris attacks, two lies have been repeated ad nauseam in prime time chat shows and in the editorials of our newspapers. The first is that this jihad has nothing to do with Islam. And the second is that all religions are the same and can all be misinterpreted by bad people. ……………………..

The truth is that jihadi terrorism has everything to do with Islam for those who think of the time of the Prophet as a blessed time that Muslims must return to. In that time there were wars in which the Prophet fought, so he put into the Koran verses that instruct his followers to deal in many nasty ways with those who refuse to believe in his message. It is in strict adherence to these instructions that the Islamic State (IS) commits its hideous crimes against countries it believes are filled with sinners and us idol-worshippers. ………………………

The second lie that has been repeated often in the past week is that every religion has the same message. Not true. No Indic religion orders believers to treat non-believers as heathens or ‘kafirs’. There is not a single Indic religion that believes that it alone has all the answers and that those who do not accept this should be treated as scum. Islam not only believes that those who do not accept Islam are ‘kafirs’, it also believes that it is Allah’s wish that non-Islamic lands be treated as battlefields on which holy wars must be fought. ……………………………


See more at:

Are Indian Muslims beginning to identify with their brethren in other parts of the world?

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Re: Malegaon blasts and the limits of fake secularism

Postby arun » 07 Feb 2016 09:29

X Posted from the Islamism thread,

arun wrote:Female Bangladeshi Mohammadden writer Ms. Taslima Nasrin / Taslima Nasreen on the Dhimmi like behaviour of our self-proclaimed “Secular’s” aka “Pseudo-secular’s”.

Most secular people are pro-Muslims and anti-Hindu. They protest against the acts of Hindu fundamentalists and defend the heinous acts of Muslim fundamentalists.


Politicians appease Muslims for votes in India. Muslims get so much favour that angers many Hindus. It is true that sometimes Muslims get tortured only because they are Muslims. But it happens to other religious community too. In Canning, a Hindu village in West Bengal, was burnt down by Muslim fanatics in 2013. If Muslims were brutally persecuted in India, they would have left India for neighbouring Muslim countries like Hindu minorities have been leaving Bangladesh and Pakistan since Partition.


See {partial?} text of interview with TOI’s Sagarika Ghosh here:

Indian writers guilty of double standards when it comes to dissent: Taslima Nasrin


Exiled from Bangladesh for annoying Mohammaddens, author Taslima Nasrin asks yet again why “secularists in India were questioning only Hindu fundamentalists, while they let alone Muslim fundamentalists”. Why indeed?

Responding to a query put forth by writer K. Sachidanandan, Ms. Nasrin wondered why secularists in India were questioning only Hindu fundamentalists, while they let alone Muslim fundamentalists. She alleged that a democracy based on pseudo-secularism was not a true democracy at all. She said that the true conflict in India was between secularism and fundamentalism, between Innovation and tradition, between humanity and barbarianism and between people who value freedom and who do not.


All religions are anti-woman: Taslima Nasrin

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Postby Muppalla » 13 May 2016 06:43

Clean chit to Sadhvi, MCOCA dropped, Karkare probe was fudged: NIA’s new Malegaon script
Three others to be let off too, all accused to be tried under unlawful activities Act


Significantly watering down the 2008 Malegaon blasts case, the National Investigation Agency (NIA) has decided not to name Sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur as an accused in its chargesheet to be filed in a Mumbai court Friday. This sets the stage for her early release from jail.

The chargesheet is likely to mention that the investigation conducted by former Maharashtra ATS chief Hemant Karkare, later killed in the 26/11 terror attack, was flawed, that the evidence produced against Colonel Prasad Purohit, another key accused, had been fabricated, and statements of witnesses were taken under duress.

In all likelihood, the chargesheet will state that the ATS planted explosives in Purohit’s living quarters at the Deolali Army camp at the time of his arrest in 2008. “We have evidence to show that the RDX was planted by ATS,” an NIA officer said.

The agency has decided to drop charges under the stringent Maharashtra Control of Organised Crime Act (MCOCA)against Purohit and all other accused. They will now be charged under provisions of the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act and the chargesheet will be filed in the UAPA court in Mumbai.

It is learnt that the NIA has also given a clean chit to at least three other accused who, the agency claims, had a peripheral role and were not aware of the conspiracy behind the Malegaon blasts on September 29, 2008 that killed four people and injured 79 others.
In an interview to The Indian Express on June 24, 2015, Rohini Salian, who was the special public prosecutor in the case, said she had been under pressure from the NIA to go “soft” on the accused ever since “the new government came to power” at the Centre. In October, after she was removed as the case prosecutor, she named the NIA officer who had contacted her.
The Maharashtra ATS, which had earlier filed a chargesheet in the case, named 14 people as accused including Thakur and Purohit.
Sources said the decision not to charge Thakur, a former office-bearer of the ABVP, was taken because of the “weak evidence” against her and the fact that MCOCA charges had been dropped against the accused.
“The only material evidence against her was the motorcycle on which the bomb was kept. This motorcycle was in her name but was being used by Ramchandra Kalsangra. Investigations have proved it was with him for two years prior to the blast. He was the one who would get it repaired and pay for its maintenance. Witness statements proved it,” an officer claimed.
Sources claimed the evidence against Thakur on her participation in the conspiracy was “thin”.
“There is not a single statement recorded before a magistrate (under Section 164 of the CrPC) that says she was part of the conspiracy meetings. All witness statements have been recorded under MCOCA before a DCP (deputy commissioner of police). Once MCOCA charges are dropped, these statements have no evidentiary value. There are just as many statements saying she was not part of the meetings,” another officer said.
Under MCOCA, a statement recorded before a DCP-rank officer is admissible as evidence in court. A statement recorded under Section 164 of CrPC before a magistrate is also admissible in court.
The NIA evidence against Purohit, sources said, establish he was an integral part of Abhinav Bharat, the organisation that allegedly plotted the blasts. The probe uncovered a money trail leading to Purohit. Sources said the NIA had found that he used the organisation’s money to buy plots in Nashik.
The NIA will also list evidence in the form of phone intercepts. In one such intercept, he is allegedly telling the other accused to flee and destroy evidence since police had got whiff of their involvement. The agency matched his voice sample with that in the intercept.
“There are several statements, recorded before a magistrate, which say he was part of conspiracy meetings. Against him, we have good evidence,” an NIA officer said.
The decision to drop MCOCA charges against the accused was taken since the application itself was flawed, NIA sources claimed. Sources said only one accused, Rakesh Dhawde, qualified to be charged under the law which requires that the accused must have at least two chargesheets against him, and proof that the crime was committed for pecuniary gains.
“All others were charged for association. Even the two chargesheets against Dhawde were an afterthought. He was arrested in November 2008 for his involvement in the 2003 Parbhani blast and 2004 Jalna blast. The day after his arrest, he was chargesheeted. This was used as justification for slapping MCOCA,” the officer said.
The NIA had earlier sought the opinion of the Law Ministry whether MCOCA charges could be dropped. The Ministry asked the agency to apply its own mind on the available evidence.
The NIA, which took over the case almost three years after the Maharashtra ATS filed a chargesheet in the case, re-examined all the accused, witnesses and evidence presented in the ATS chargesheet. It also recorded fresh statements, many of which exonerated the accused.

What ATS had on Sadhvi, Purohit
* Hero Honda motorcycle with bombs was owned by Sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur.
* She was the first to be arrested by Maharashtra ATS on October 24, 2008.
* Sadhvi attended most meetings since 2006 on targeting Muslim-majority areas.
* At Bhopal meeting on April 11, 2008, Purohit said he would provide explosives.
* Sadhvi said she would arrange men for the blasts in Malegaon.
* Sadhvi knew Sunil Joshi, Ramchandra Kalsangra. Her motorcycle was with Kalsangra.
* ATS said Purohit floated Abhinav Bharat in 2007 for a Hindu Rashtra.
* Purohit brought RDX from Kashmir where he was posted earlier.
* Purohit assembled bombs in Pune with Sudhakar Chaturvedi, Kalsangra.



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Re: Malegaon blasts and the limits of fake secularism

Postby Muppalla » 13 May 2016 06:46

Any one who is calling BRF as some CT cookers should apologize. The new SM world has to do note this point.

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Postby ramana » 14 May 2016 05:08

I guess NIA has shocked everyone silent.

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Postby vera_k » 14 May 2016 06:41

Now to trace back the Congress-LeT nexus that murdered Mr. Karkare.

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Postby Muppalla » 14 May 2016 07:51

Got this via WhatsApp:

this coming from Ronnie Patel, CO. Purohit's friend
Col Purohit whom I know from a very close range.
He was no nonsense man who used to respect the jawans under his control he was the most respected army officer who was very close to his commanders.
It happened on a very fateful night in the year 2004 he was called up to meet the army command of western command & was told not to discuss this with anyone not even his family should know on what mission he had been selected. This were the very worlds of than Defence minister A.K.Anthony & chiddambaram. His mission was to penetrate the terrorists cell & gather information about the terror sleeping module inside India.
He carried out his job & was very close to the breaking point of having major evidence against some of the congress leaders who were the active sleepers cells of Isi in India & there was one Muslim leader very close to Sonia Gandhi whose name was deleted by none other than chiddambaram. Just yeh the malegaon blast took place. Late Hemant Karkere was appointed chief of the special investigation team popularly known as SIT. In the mean time Sadhvi Pragyna Thakur was very close to the colonel's wife & the thought of the devil took place in the mind of chidumbaram.
The Muslim leader close to Sonia threatened up chidumbaram that if his name is involved than he will exposed all the information relegated to his son khartikh. In order to save his son he called up Digvijay who was very close to late Hemant, Digvijay than promised to help & save the congress & the Nehru family. One fine day he called up late Hemant to meet him in mumbai at Sahayadri guest house the official residence of VVIPs in mumbai & it was here that plot to involved colonel & Sadhvi was born Hemant first refused to do so but was persuaded after promise of post of mumbai commissioner. That's how the story unfolded to defame the Hindu community in the eyes of the world & the bane Hindu Terror was not the brain child of chiddu but it was the brain child of none other than Prithviraj Chauhan who was minister in PMO office.
Now who will pay for colonel who lost his precious years without any promotion.
This is the story of how the traitor Nehru family & congress plays with our Hindu sentimentalist

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Postby ramana » 14 May 2016 09:52

Who and where is Col Shrivastav?

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Postby Lilo » 14 May 2016 10:12

Muppalla wrote:...That's how the story unfolded to defame the Hindu community in the eyes of the world & the bane Hindu Terror was not the brain child of chiddu but it was the brain child of none other than Prithviraj Chauhan who was minister in PMO office.


Chavan moves from PMO backroom to seat of power
PTI Nov 10, 2010

MUMBAI: From the relative obscurity in the backroom of the Prime Minister's office to the most coveted seat of power in Maharashtra, Prithviraj Chavan has reaped the reward for his personal integrity, professional ability and unflinching loyalty to 10, Janpath.

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Postby deejay » 14 May 2016 11:27

ramana wrote:Who and where is Col Shrivastav?


I was wondering about it. The silence on this front is like the silence of the dog.

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Postby prahaar » 14 May 2016 11:34

deejay wrote:
ramana wrote:Who and where is Col Shrivastav?


I was wondering about it. The silence on this front is like the silence of the dog.


It would be foolish to think that a Col. rank person was acting on his own (renegade) or even against the wishes of his bosses. It is unlikely that any of this happened without the concurrence of Army top brass. It is a sad episode that an Army which prides itself in bringing back its sick and wounded from battlefield has left this person to fend for himself. Nothing can be more demoralizing for an intelligence person to know his actions may be used to frame him or her.

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Postby chetak » 14 May 2016 11:44

prahaar wrote:
deejay wrote:
{quote="ramana"}Who and where is Col Shrivastav?{/quote}

I was wondering about it. The silence on this front is like the silence of the dog.


It would be foolish to think that a Col. rank person was acting on his own (renegade) or even against the wishes of his bosses. It is unlikely that any of this happened without the concurrence of Army top brass. It is a sad episode that an Army which prides itself in bringing back its sick and wounded from battlefield has left this person to fend for himself. Nothing can be more demoralizing for an intelligence person to know his actions may be used to frame him or her.


wait before jumping to conclusions.

On the face of it, it looks bad, I agree.

But this is not the normal actions of the IA that we know and respect. The truth will out soon.

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Postby Gus » 14 May 2016 12:32

It is a sad episode that an Army which prides itself in bringing back its sick and wounded from battlefield has left this person to fend for himself.

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but this is not a battlefield where army knows what to do. this is backroom politics and unprecedented in our modern history. if somebody else from army chain stepped in, they would also be dragged into suspicion and chargesheeted. this was not at the end of UPA regime..this was in the beginning where they had all the clout and for many years into future. you cannot fight against the system of a party in power, its bureacrats and police in its bidding, media that is on party dole and on top of it all - a compromised judiciary.

this is a fight nobody will take on and how we expect some army senior officer will take on? its not like movie where hero can win in the end.

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Postby deejay » 14 May 2016 13:01

prahaar wrote:...

It would be foolish to think that a Col. rank person was acting on his own (renegade) or even against the wishes of his bosses. It is unlikely that any of this happened without the concurrence of Army top brass. It is a sad episode that an Army which prides itself in bringing back its sick and wounded from battlefield has left this person to fend for himself. Nothing can be more demoralizing for an intelligence person to know his actions may be used to frame him or her.


prahaar ji, hitting out against entire army at the first instance?

We don't know anything yet. There are many more skeletons in the cupboard.

In this case 01 IA officer was accosted bu 01 other IA officer. The one who suffered is well known. The other person is a mystery - who is he? Are you sure he is who we have been made to believe.

The whole episode is a C-System construct of cronyism designed to benefit the Maino clan and their aims. Why then this urge to say
"It is unlikely that any of this happened without the concurrence of Army top brass. It is a sad episode that an Army which prides itself in bringing back its sick and wounded from battlefield has left this person to fend for himself. Nothing can be more demoralizing for an intelligence person to know his actions may be used to frame him or her."

IA within its limits of freedom in interfering with a political or civilian dictat did stand by Col Purohit (IMO, it was feeble but any more and IA would have been questioned for mutiny).

On the very first page of this thread is a link by Mupalla ji: http://www.dailypioneer.com/133273/Army-ATS-at-loggerheads.html No use clicking it 'cause just the headline remains. Luckily, Mupalla ji quoted the article so here is a relevant excerpt :
The other, and far more crucial fallout, is that the Army and ATS are at loggerheads, a situation which may lead to deeper trouble. Though the Army has been assisting the ATS, its brass is perturbed over the manner in which Purohit’s so-called confessions have been leaked.

Though the ATS has denied doing this, the Army feels such leaks are discrediting the entire institution, sources said on Saturday. They also denied reports that other serving officers are under the scanner even as the ATS picked up two more persons from Pune and Vapi in connection with the probe.


I have bolded something that you need to understand. The IA cannot refuse cooperation to Civil authority. Despite not liking it, it cannot take opposite sides. IA did a little bit more to support the Col. I can search and post if you want.

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Postby ramana » 17 May 2016 06:00

So what are the next steps?

What is Maha govt waiting for?
How about an inquiry on the ATS chaps who planted RDX?

Where did they get that from and who ordered them?

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Postby prahaar » 24 May 2016 12:17

Chetak-Deejay-ji, I respect the armed forces fully and cannot even imagine the kind of constraints AFs and security forces need to work with. I understand that for military services, discipline and compliance with civil authority is of prime importance. It is also true that a large section of AFs may not be aware about any details regarding what Col. Purohit was doing or not doing. But to an outsider, it seems that at least some superior officers have failed in OLQs, in not coming out with the more evidence (either proving charges against Purohitji or absolving him of the crime), irrespective of the dispensation in power.

There could have been operational secrecy issues which may have prevented the superiors from opening their mouth, lest it compromises or puts more people in the harm's way. That is the part which an outsider like me cannot understand. The civil society's responsibility is even greater (since they are not governed by OSAs), which has failed totally. I am not talking about RSS or BJP, but about apolitical people who acted as if they did not see anything.

Sorry the late response and last rant on this from me. Ramanaji's questions are pertinent and at least the current MH CM needs to be held accountable. Unfortunately RR Patil is no more, who was HM during that period.

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Re: Malegaon blasts and the limits of fake secularism

Postby chetak » 24 May 2016 14:53

Gus wrote:It is a sad episode that an Army which prides itself in bringing back its sick and wounded from battlefield has left this person to fend for himself.

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but this is not a battlefield where army knows what to do. this is backroom politics and unprecedented in our modern history. if somebody else from army chain stepped in, they would also be dragged into suspicion and chargesheeted. this was not at the end of UPA regime..this was in the beginning where they had all the clout and for many years into future. you cannot fight against the system of a party in power, its bureacrats and police in its bidding, media that is on party dole and on top of it all - a compromised judiciary.

this is a fight nobody will take on and how we expect some army senior officer will take on? its not like movie where hero can win in the end.



with folks like those shits digvijay and tewari, any individual or a group of individuals from the IA speaking out against the ill treatment of Col Purohit would have been immediately painted in damning colors with mutinous overtones. The charge of mutiny is very serious and sometimes has fatal consequences.

The press would have played this up and would have dragged in the RSS for "influencing" military people to speak out. Several fundamental rights stand abrogated as a consequence of military service.

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Re: Malegaon blasts and the limits of fake secularism

Postby Arjun » 28 May 2016 10:11

Rijiju accuses UPA of cahooting with LeT on Ishrat Jahan case

This one for sure needs to be seriously probed....one of the blackest moments of history in post-Independance India. Look into the records of some of the pro-Congress blogs around 2008 - 2011 timeframe to gain insight into the minds of these criminals.

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Re: Malegaon blasts and the limits of fake secularism

Postby ramana » 27 Sep 2016 00:44

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vijayk wrote:http://www.rediff.com/news/report/malegaon-blast-colonel-purohits-bail-rejected/20160926.htm

Malegaon blast: Colonel Purohit's bail rejected


The special court for National Investigation Agency cases in Mumbai rejected on Monday the bail application of Lt Col Prasad Purohit, a prime accused in the 2008 Malegaon blast case.

The order was passed by Special Judge S D Tekale. Purohit had sought the bail contending that the NIA had dropped the charges under the stringent Maharashtra Control of Organised Crime Act in the case, and that the sanction for prosecution obtained under the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act was defective.

He had not played any role in the blast, Purohit had said, adding that he was in jail for the last seven years without trial.

However, the NIA had objected to his bail plea. His arguments should be taken into consideration during the trial and not at this stage, the prosecution had said.

Prima facie there was enough evidence against Purohit, it had said.


Why doesn't the court or NIA bring the case to trial? This jail without bail violates the requirement of Habeas Corpus.

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Re: Malegaon blasts and the limits of fake secularism

Postby panduranghari » 27 Sep 2016 01:45

There is more to it than what meets the eye. GOI is making an example of this. Perhaps its a sign of things to come.

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Re: Malegaon blasts and the limits of fake secularism

Postby Muppalla » 21 Aug 2017 18:12

Finally Purohit gets bail.

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Re: Malegaon blasts and the limits of fake secularism

Postby ramana » 21 Aug 2017 21:07

Muppalla wrote:Finally Purohit gets bail.



We have come a long way from the day when this thread was started.

Please refer to the first page to see where we were.

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Re: Malegaon blasts and the limits of fake secularism

Postby Karthik S » 21 Aug 2017 21:17

Couldn't read beyond first few posts. 2014 is really god's intervention. Hope it isn't a break but final stop to 1000 year old attack on hindus.


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