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Postby SSridhar » 12 Jun 2011 16:07

ATC Judge gives 7 days to Pakistani prosecutors to provide copies of Indian statements to Defence
A Pakistani anti-terrorism court conducting the trial of LeT's Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi and six other suspects charged with involvement in the Mumbai attacks gave prosecutors a week's time to provide copies of statements of key Indian witnesses and other relevant documents to defence lawyers.

The prosecutors were unable to produce the documents during proceedings conducted by Judge Rana Nisar Ahmed behind closed doors at Adiala Jail in Rawalpindi, sources said.

The judge had earlier directed the prosecution to provide the documents at Saturday's hearing.

After the prosecutors sought more time to produce the documents, the judge gave them time till June 18 and adjourned the proceedings, the sources said.

At the last hearing on May 28, the prosecutors had told the judge that the Indian government had said it will cooperate with a Pakistani judicial commission and allow it to question witnesses and officials.

The judge had asked them to substantiate their contention with any written communication sent by Indian authorities.

This matter is also expected to be taken up at the next hearing, the sources said.


See here for a chronology of court drama in Pakistan

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Postby Agnimitra » 13 Jun 2011 18:41

Police 'clueless' over Shahzad's killing

Pakistani media reported that Jyotirmoy Dey, a senior investigative journalist and crime editor at Mid Day was gunned down in the Indian city of Mumbai on Saturday. Dey was writing a book with the assistance of Shahzad on Dawood Ibrahim, an underworld Indian fugitive wanted in connection with - among other things - the 1993 Bombay (Mumbai) bombings, Pakistan media reported.

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Postby Lalmohan » 13 Jun 2011 18:59

Carl wrote:Police 'clueless' over Shahzad's killing

Pakistani media reported that Jyotirmoy Dey, a senior investigative journalist and crime editor at Mid Day was gunned down in the Indian city of Mumbai on Saturday. Dey was writing a book with the assistance of Shahzad on Dawood Ibrahim, an underworld Indian fugitive wanted in connection with - among other things - the 1993 Bombay (Mumbai) bombings, Pakistan media reported.


wow... so shahzad, who used to do the ISI's bidding got too close to something he wasn't supposed to. just like daniel pearl. similarly Dey. some clean up action being taken by the ISI-D.Company JV

good find

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Reason: Abhishek, updated your post with the 'Chronology'

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Postby ramana » 16 Jun 2011 23:25

SSridhar, Look up Operation Jaywick by Aussie special forces in WWII. Its a blueprint for Mumbai 26/11 with updates for new technology and targets.

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Postby shyamd » 17 Jun 2011 22:38

Saleem Shahzad, Al Qaeda and ISI

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Anyone who has read Inside Al Qaeda and the Taliban: Beyond Bin Laden and 9/11 by Saleem Shahzad (Pluto Press 2011) will come to the following conclusions:

1) It is Al Qaeda rather than the Taliban who plan militant attacks in Pakistan and that the Taliban execute no operations without the permission of Al Qaeda; 2) Jihadi organisations are subservient to Al Qaeda at the same time as some are also extensions of the Pakistan Army; 3) TTP was shaped by Al Qaeda through Uzbek warlord Tahir Yuldashev after the 2007 Lal Masjid affair; 4) 'Retired' army officers earlier handling proxy jihad defected to Al Qaeda but continued to use contacts within the military on behalf of Al Qaeda; 5) Benazir was killed by Al Qaeda and not Baitullah Mehsud; he was merely an instrument; 6) Mumbai was done by Al Qaeda through former Pakistan Army officers with help from Lashkar-e-Tayba (LeT) without the knowledge of the ISI despite the fact that LeT was on ISI's leash; 7) Army officers or freedom fighters trained by army for Kashmir jihad spearheaded Al Qaeda's war against Pakistan Army; 8) Islamic radicalisation of Pakistani society and media mixed with fear of being assassinated by Al Qaeda agents - who include ex-army officers - have tilted the balance of power away from the state of Pakistan to Al Qaeda; 9) Punjabi Taliban are under Haqqani Network which is supposed to be aligned with Pakistan Army; 10) Pakistan Army has ex-officers in Al Qaeda as well as serving officers collaborating with these ex-officers.

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Saleem Shahzad, who enjoyed the confidence of many Al Qaeda militants and never betrayed their whereabouts, writes: 'There were at least 600,000 youths there since 1979. At least 100,000 Pakistanis were active members or different Jihadi cadres. Over 1 million students were enrolled in various Islamic seminaries, and there were several hundred thousand supporters of Pakistan's Islamic religious parties. The main handler of the Afghan Jihad against the Soviets had been Pakistan's army, which itself was not immune to the influence of radicalism. Several army officers had pledged their allegiance (bait) to different Jihadi spiritual leaders, including Maulana Akram Awan of Chakwal. These groups were known in the Pakistan Army as pir bhai groups. Although General Pervez Musharraf had purged some of these elements from the Pakistan Army after 9/11, including his very close friend, the then deputy chief of army staff, Lt Gen Muzaffar Usmani, he was unable to completely eradicate the radical tendency, which had become deep-rooted in Pakistan's security services during the period from 1979 to 2001' (p. 9).

The Mumbai operation was the revival of an old ISI plan to deflect the Pakistan Army away from Waziristan and get it to fight India instead. Mullah Fazlullah and Baitullah Mehsud announced that they would fight alongside the armed forces in an India-Pakistan war, and Gen Pasha confirmed this in his briefing to reporters when he called them Pakistan's strategic assets

Al Qaeda bent its principles constantly to take more allies on board. One was Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LJ): 'Slowly and gradually this strategy began to work, and brought thousands of new recruits into the Al Qaeda fold. Among them were two well-known brothers, Dr Akmal Waheed and Dr Arshad Waheed, from Karachi who were now linked to Al Qaeda through Jundullah. Dr Arshad Waheed was later killed in Wana in South Waziristan in a CIA drone strike, and soon afterwards Al Qaeda's media wing Al Sahab released a documentary on his life and exploits to inspire the younger generation. Subsequently several army officers joined the Al-Qaeda cadre' (p. 9).

Radicalisation was facilitated by Jamaat-e-Islami: 'Its student wing had been formed in the 1948 as the offshoot of Jamaat-e-Islami, and by the 1970s it dominated all the country's major educational institutions, including the University of Karachi, University of Punjab, and University of Peshawar. Most of the middle-class members of Pakistan's leadership had belonged to the IJT as students, including Pakistan's ambassador to the United States, Husain Haqqani, Pakistan Muslim League leaders Javed Hashmi and Ehsan Iqbal, Pakistani law minister Dr Babar Awan, and almost 80 percent of Urdu-language newspaper and electronic media opinion writers and television talk show anchors in Pakistan' (p. 10).

Uzbeks that Al Qaeda brought to Waziristan were critical in forming the violent mood of the militants: 'Tahir Yuldashev played a key role in the recruiting of such tribal militants as Abdullah Mehsud. Yuldashev headed an Uzbek force of 2,500 men. The Uzbeks were to give the Pakistani militants lessons in brutality to establish a reign of terror: their tactics included routinely slitting the throats of their foes' (p. 13).

Al Qaeda's central hero was Captain Khurram Ashiq of the Pakistan Army who was followed by his brother Major Haroon Ashiq to become Al Qaeda's hand that wielded the sword: Khurram was an assault commander of the elite anti-terrorist Zarrar Coy from Pakistan's Special Service Group (SSG) in 2001 when he flipped after 9/11. Because of his Salafi background he was shaped into a warrior by LeT. He wrote to Saleem Shahzad about his brother too. 'Major Haroon Ashiq hung up his boots right after 9/11. On his release from service, he joined LeT. One of my unit officers Major Abdul Rahman also followed suit. I joined the outfit soon after, without caring for the consequences' (p. 83).

For Captain Khurram faith came before country. While on a UN mission in Sierra Leone he clearly demonstrated it: 'Khurram built a mosque and a Madrassa in Sierra Leone, despite the opposition of his commander, Brigadier Ahmad Shuja Pasha, later chief of the ISI' (p. 85). Both brothers had joined the LeT, but had soon 'realised that the LET was just an extension of Pakistan's armed forces' (p. 86).

To clear the equipment he bought for Al Qaeda from China through customs, Maj (r) Haroon called on his friend Capt Farooq, who was President Musharraf's security officer. Farooq went to the airport in the president's official car and received Haroon at the immigration counter

Haroon read classical Muslim academics like Imam Ibn Taymiyya, Ibn-e-Khaldun and Muhammad Bin Abdul Wahhab. Among modern-day scholars he studied the works of the Muslim Brotherhood ideologue Syed Qutb, as well as the founder of the Jamaat-e-Islami Pakistan, Syed Abul Ala Maududi' (p. 86). Haroon then severed his ties with the Kashmiri struggle and move to North Waziristan with his family. Khurram and Rahman then went to the Afghan province of Helmand in 2007 (p. 87) where Khurram was martyred, after which Rehman joined Haroon in Al Qaeda, becoming the lynchpin of the Mumbai attack in 2008.

As an Al Qaeda terrorist, Haroon enjoyed contacts inside the army: 'Haroon developed a silencer for the AK-47. This became an essential component of Al Qaeda's special guerrilla operations. He then visited China to procure night vision glasses. The biggest task was to clear them through the customs in Pakistan, Haroon called on his friend Captain Farooq, who was President Musharraf's security officer. Farooq went to the airport in the president's official car and received Haroon at the immigration counter. In the presence of Farooq, nobody dared touch Haroon's luggage, and the night vision glasses arrived in Pakistan without any hassle [Farooq was a member of the Hizbut Tahrir, a fact discovered by the military intelligence as late as nine months after his posting as Musharraf's security officer. After being spotted, he was briefly arrested and then retired from the Pakistan Army]' (p. 88).

Al Qaeda targeted NATO supplies through Haroon in 2008: 'Haroon travelled through North Waziristan to Karachi. When night fell, he stayed in army messes in the countryside. Being an ex-army officer he was allowed that facility. He spoke English and Urdu with an unmistakable military accent' (p. 92). He took revenge on Major General Ameer Faisal Alavi because the latter had killed a lot of Al Qaeda men - including Abdur Rehman Kennedy - as leader of a Pakistan Army assault on Angor Adda in North Waziristan. Haroon ambushed Alavi in Islamabad 'jumping out of his car and killing Alavi with his army revolver' (p. 93). Haroon believed in the Ghazwa-e-Hind (Battle for India) hadith and thought End of the World was near, and the advent of the Mahdi was at hand with the help of the armies of Khurasan (Afghanistan-Pakistan) (p. 200).

Haroon is now in Adiala jail in Rawalpindi after failing to kidnap an Ahmadi, Sarwar Khan. (The police officer in Adiala jail told Saleem Shahzad he had started admiring his prisoner.) In custody he admitted to killing Major General Alavi and kidnapping Hindu filmmaker Satish Anand with the help of one Major Basit from Karachi. After he discovered that Anand had no money to give he released him on orders from Al Qaeda's Ilyas Kashmiri 'if he embraced Islam' which Anand immediately did. Later Al Qaeda decided that to refill its empty coffers it will abduct only non-Muslims, in particular, Ahmadis. (A 2011 kidnapping of an Ahmadi in Rawalpindi happened just a little ahead of the time of writing - KA.)

The Mumbai operation was actually the revival of an old ISI plan. The idea was to deflect the Pakistan Army away from Waziristan and get it to fight India instead. This nearly succeeded: 'Pakistan's militant leaders Mullah Fazlullah and Baitullah Mehsud announced that they would fight alongside Pakistan's armed forces in an India-Pakistan war, and the director general of ISI, Lt Gen Ahmad Shuja Pasha, confirmed this understanding in his briefing to national and foreign correspondents, when he called Fazlullah and Baitullah Mehsud Pakistan's strategic assets' (p. 95).

Saleem saw Al Qaeda busily pursuing the goal of weaning Pakistan away from the West with violence and ideology. Pakistan's own teleology of moving from mild to harsh Islam across its history helped. He saw Al Qaeda achieving the following objective: 'Pressure on the ruling Muslim elites and the Muslim masses to break their alliance with the West and support the Islamists' cause of a global struggle for the freedom of occupied Muslim lands and establishment of a Global Caliphate' (p. 125).

The joint declaration of the Pakistani Parliament and the subsequent statement issued by the Pakistan Army on 9 June 2011 seem to indicate that Al Qaeda is winning in nuclear Pakistan more effectively than in Somalia and Yemen.

Confirms what I have been saying all along. 26/11 was to ask us to hit Pak, and unite Pak. Fast forward today, look at the mess that TSP has got itself into. Its at war at all levels - even within the Military establishment. Talebs are striking TSPA. Public is questioning TSPA more than ever before. Colnel's coup etc.

US will split Pak if Paki duplicity continues.

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Postby svinayak » 17 Jun 2011 22:45

shyamd wrote:Saleem Shahzad, Al Qaeda and ISI

Confirms what I have been saying all along. 26/11 was to ask us to hit Pak, and unite Pak.

US will split Pak if Paki duplicity continues.

The same author during the 2001 - India Pak border standoff said that the war was good for Pak. also he said the Indian army will be hit by Let from inside India. His article was so brazen that he was rooting for war between India and pakistan

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Postby shyamd » 18 Jun 2011 00:19

Maj Iqbal-David Headley & the money trail
http://vickynanjapa.wordpress.com/2011/ ... ney-trail/
Posted on June 17, 2011 by Vicky Nanjappa

Tracking down Major Iqbal will be a tough task ahead for Indian investigating agencies probing the David Headley link to the 26/11 attack. While the Chicago court which tried Tawwahur Rana didn’t make any noise about the likes of Major Iqbal and their involvement in this attack, the National Investigating Agency says that the money transaction between the Major and Headley will be a crucial link to the investigation.

Even as Pakistan continues to deny the existence of a Major Iqbal, the NIA is sure that this is the man who has played a major role in the attack. The money trail for the recee conducted by Headley is an important link in this case. This angle to the probe brings back the question regarding fake currency and how it continues to dominate each and every possible terrorist funding.

Investigations into the Headley link to the 26/11 attack show that the Major had handed over 25000 dollars and also fake Indian currency of the like sum to Headley when he was surveying targets for the attack. The attacks were carried out on high profile targets and hence Major Iqbal of the ISI wanted to ensure that Headley moved around with the elite. The account by Headley is a testimony to the fact as to how he moved around with the elite when going about his job.

Headley got in touch with customers at Moksh, he stayed over at the Taj and all this has cost him a lot of money investigators point out.

The money which was transferred to Headley was through a Hawala transaction. A certain amount of the money was handed over to him personally while the rest was arranged to be delivered on arrival at India.

Headley who was paid in dollars did not have to go through the ordeal of exchanging fake currency. The fake currency is usually transported into India and then exchanged with a point man. This now throws open an interesting challenge to the investigators since it becomes obvious that there was another person in India who went about doing this job for Headley. The money had landed in from Pakistan and then the fake currency was changed at a 2:1 ratio. The interesting part would be who exactly changed this money for Headley which once again throw open the interesting question regarding a local link.

The investigating agencies have put under the scanner several hawala operators and touts who change money for terrorist operations. There is an indepth investigation on as to who in particular carried out this job for Headley, sources also point out.


Now coming back to Major Iqbal, it will require some expertise to nab this person. While the money trail would be one way of proving the existence of this man and also his location, the other ways would involve deriving voice samples and also another round of interrogation of Headley.

India will exercise all the options available to them. Indian investigators say that the voice samples which they have been seeking from Pakistan may not come after all. This places reliance on the law suit filed by the family of the slain Israeli couple where the ISI is under the scanner. India which is planning on joining the law suit is looking to put forth a strong case against Iqbal so that the court does take cognisance of the same and summons him to New York. However India will be cautious before it joins that suit in New York since it would be a party to the suit only if it has a lot of evidence in the case. It should not become a wasted exercise is what a source in the Home Ministry says about India’s participation in the law suit.

The voice samples which Pakistan had promised to provide India is another option that the NIA is exploring. While the pressure to get the voice samples have not worked either through diplomatic or judicial pressure, India is expecting the US to play a more crucial part in this. India would seek the assistance of Pakistan to get the voice samples as it is necessary for the investigation, sources also added.

National Investigating Agency sources say that they would be exploring the option of interrogating Headley once again, considering that the US has said that it could be a possibility if India did make that demand. The last time around the questions were pretty general in nature and this time it is expected to be more specific. There is an absolute need to nail the likes of Major Iqbal and Headley is the man who can detail him and help out Indian investigators.

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Postby Lalmohan » 18 Jun 2011 02:18

at the time, many of us said that this was a naked attempt to start a war with india to divert attention from goat... no surprises saar...

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Postby Patni » 20 Jun 2011 09:02

India to seek ‘satisfactory closure’ to 26/11 case

India is “overall satisfied” with the dialogue process with Pakistan so far and is approaching the next round of talks between the foreign secretaries with “realistic expectations”, according to government sources.

Foreign Secretary Nirupama Rao will hold talks with her Pakistan counterpart Salman Bashir on June 23 and 24 in Islamabad. India and Pakistan officials have held several rounds of talks on defence, commerce, internal security, visas and other issues since March this year.

Rao and Bashir will be discussing Jammu and Kashmir, peace and security, confidence building measures (CBMs) and friendly exchanges between the two countries, apart from reviewing the dialogue process so far. Nuclear CBMs will be part of the discussions, where the two sides will try to strengthen the existing agreements pertaining to notification on nuclear missiles and nuclear facilities.

Sources said the meetings, especially those between home and commerce secretaries, had been quite satisfactory, and New Delhi would be going to the talks with an “open and constructive approach”.

“Our concerns have not, in any way, diminished by the resumption of dialogue...through dialogue you keep the chain of communication open...How can our concerns of terrorism not be addressed by us? (and that is why we have to raise them)...terrorism is central to our concerns,” they said here on Sunday.

Given the history and complexities of the relationship between India and Pakistan, the sources said, they were not expecting “quick and dramatic solutions” and these talks would be towards an “eventual resolution” of outstanding issues between the two countries.

“Talks are a process, and not an event by itself,” official sources said, describing the significance of the foreign secretary-level talks in Islamabad in the coming days.

In fact, India handed over the last set of documents two days ago, the sources said, which included “translated copies of seizure memo” in the Mumbai terror attack trial.

Stating that “we need justice and a satisfactory closure” to the Mumbai trial, the sources said the revelations in the Chicago trial were a “part of the larger conspiracy” and New Delhi would not let its guard down and it would be very much part of the conversation.

Official sources said New Delhi agreed to Pakistan’s judicial commission visiting India and had not got any feedback on this from the courts.

On the issue of Jammu and Kashmir, the sources said, this problem had been there for decades and they were looking at greater CBMs, including transportation connectivity.

They added that focus would be on trade to help economies on both sides of Jammu and Kashmir.

These talks between the foreign secretaries will be held in the run-up to the meeting between the foreign ministers of the two countries next month. The sources said the absence of a Cabinet-rank foreign minister in Pakistan would not have any impact on the process.



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Postby chetak » 20 Jul 2011 13:00

Splurging on Madani, crumbs for 26/11 hero!

Shaurya Chakra awardee PV Manesh feels let down by nation

The Karnataka Government is forced to cough up huge sums on spa treatment of Bangalore blast accused Abdul Nasser Madani, but the authorities are not ready to reimburse a paltry `4,000 a month on Ayurvedic treatment of a NSG commando, who was paralysed in the Mumbai 26/11 operations.

Shaurya Chakra awardee PV Manesh from Kannur was paralysed after he was hit by a grenade in his head during the terror attack on Oberoi Hotel in Mumbai. But before a grenade fell on his helmet, he shot dead a terrorist. A splinter is still lodged in his brain.

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Slain Cop Vijay Salaskar's Daughter Gets Govt Job



More than two years after 26/11 terror strike in Mumbai, the daughter of slain cop Vijay Salaskar has been given a government job after the intervention of Union Home Minister P Chidambaram.

Divya Salaskar, daughter of encounter specialist Vijay Salaskar who died fighting Lashker-e-Taiba terrorists during 2008 attack, was today given a government job on compassionate grounds.

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"This morning, I was informed by the Chief Minister, Maharashtra that the appointment of Divya Salaskar as Assistant Commissioner of Sales Tax, Mumbai has been approved," the Home Minister said.

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Postby Sushupti » 21 Jul 2011 22:56

Chicago court documents reveal terrorists' plans

There were allegedly fresh plans in the works by Chicago terrorists to stage attacks across India.That is one of the headlines from court records that were released Wednesday from the recent terrorism conviction of Chicago travel agent Tahawwur Rana.


http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?sectio ... id=8261982

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Postby Prem » 22 Jul 2011 06:11

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/21/opini ... .html?_r=1

Dreams of Mumbai
By SONIA FALEIRO
Before relocating I had heard that young women did things in Mumbai that were unthinkable in Delhi — they wore shorts in public and returned home on their own after dark, even if they had been drinking. But it was in Mumbai that I became the person, and in time the writer, I now am. Only in Mumbai could a young female writer safely attend a late-night birthday party hosted by a madam in a brothel. Only in Mumbai could I have lunch with a known gangster and leave the conversation feeling even more alive than when it had begun. Mumbai is that rare Indian city in which a woman can be a woman without constant fear of sexual harassment — or worse. For me, this freedom is nearly impossible to experience elsewhere in India.The freedom Mumbai allows its people — to dress, live and work as they choose — has made it a city of achievers, a place that has earned the moniker “City of Dreams.” Without Mumbai, India would be less remarkable.
To understand why people who dream of success love Mumbai is to understand why terrorists repeatedly target it. In the past decade the city has been attacked several times, most recently on July 13, when three explosions killed at least 20 people and left 141 injured.
In the immediate aftermath of the attack, as with every previous attack, people took to the streets — not simply to commiserate with the victims’ families, or to denounce the terrorists, or to demand that their leaders explain why the violence had not been prevented — but to go on living. Life did not stop. The people of Mumbai still needed to do the things that would help them achieve their dreams.


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Postby shiv » 23 Jul 2011 06:32

Prem wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/21/opinion/21iht-edfaleiro21.html?_r=1

Dreams of Mumbai
By SONIA FALEIRO
Before relocating I had heard that young women did things in Mumbai that were unthinkable in Delhi — they wore shorts in public and returned home on their own after dark, even if they had been drinking. But it was in Mumbai that I became the person, and in time the writer, I now am. Only in Mumbai could a young female writer safely attend a late-night birthday party hosted by a madam in a brothel. Only in Mumbai could I have lunch with a known gangster and leave the conversation feeling even more alive than when it had begun. Mumbai is that rare Indian city in which a woman can be a woman without constant fear of sexual harassment — or worse. For me, this freedom is nearly impossible to experience elsewhere in India.The freedom Mumbai allows its people — to dress, live and work as they choose — has made it a city of achievers, a place that has earned the moniker “City of Dreams.” Without Mumbai, India would be less remarkable.
To understand why people who dream of success love Mumbai is to understand why terrorists repeatedly target it. In the past decade the city has been attacked several times, most recently on July 13, when three explosions killed at least 20 people and left 141 injured.
In the immediate aftermath of the attack, as with every previous attack, people took to the streets — not simply to commiserate with the victims’ families, or to denounce the terrorists, or to demand that their leaders explain why the violence had not been prevented — but to go on living. Life did not stop. The people of Mumbai still needed to do the things that would help them achieve their dreams.



Lousy article in my view. It says "Oh I love Mumbai for what is. It should continue to be Mumbai onlee. But I can't live there. I will live elsewhere and dream about crowded Mumbai where a girl can wear shorts and where people keep getting bombed."

How come all these authors have only good things to say about a city that has become a shit pit for everyone except the most wealthy and the most powerful? It is high time the state government and the local government in Mumbai stopped living and making wealth out of Mumbai's reputation, got their act together and tried to make Mumbai a city that is not so attractive for terrorist and the criminal mafia.

Of course we know the reason. The state/local government and the mafia are hand in glove. It is so easy to get angry (cognitive dissonance?) at the comparison between Mumbai and Karachi. I am all for such parallels to be drawn until someone actually wakes up and admits that there is a problem. You can't have people living on the street paying hafta to the police and then expect them to be good citizens on a "neighborhood watch"

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Postby VikB » 23 Jul 2011 10:29

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/07/ ... ?hpt=hp_p1

Norway attack teaches lessons on terrorism
"....................Perhaps the starkest lesson from the Norway attack is that, based on early reports, more people seem to have been killed by firearms than by explosives. In this way, the Norway attack reflects a larger trend in terrorism, exemplified most terribly by the November 26, 2008, terrorist attack in Mumbai, in which 10 gunmen collaborated to kill more than 160 people.
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All those western f**ks who were claiming that Indian police is not prepared/it cant happen here/blah blah should take it up their a**. Now this has happened under their nose and one solitary gumman got 80+people. We had 10 gunmen and an overcrowded city. they got only 180+. Who is more efficient? Where were their TFTA awesome looking police/Special forces?
The humble policeman on Mumbai streets who is mockingly called a Pandu deserves much more than he gets.
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Postby CRamS » 23 Jul 2011 10:42

VikB,

The other big big difference that the racist western f**ks won't say is that 26/11 was state-sponsored, sponsored by a Chines-donate nuke armed, and western arms supplied TSPA/ISI. Big difference in what the poorly trained, poorly equipped Mumbai police had to deal with.

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Postby VikB » 23 Jul 2011 11:01

Very true. I remember the European channels talking at that time as if a flood/drought has happened in a third world country or a plague which the lower ones in this world have to endure.

I am very sorry for the loss of lives there but then this is the hard way the West will understand the meaning of ' terrrorism' and stop taking the moral high view in these matters.

Just an aside - was Norway not the one that shielded LTTE terrorists and meddled in Sri Lanka's matters?
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Postby VikB » 23 Jul 2011 11:03

Oh also just to point out, there is a LARGE population of Pukis there in Norway. Let us see if we get some surprises there.

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By Surprise, you means no Paki involvement ?

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Postby VikB » 23 Jul 2011 11:27

VikasRaina wrote:By Surprise, you means no Paki involvement ?

:rotfl:

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Postby JE Menon » 23 Jul 2011 13:10

yet, but hold you horses... Like I said, let this play out... Don't blame the Paks, it does not help our case... especially on the slim chance they were not somehow involved... We shall see. All that is needed is a tiny opening, but a Norwegian confirmed one. May not be there though, going by the available data...

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Postby chetak » 23 Jul 2011 15:41

VikB wrote:Very true. I remember the European channels talking at that time as if a flood/drought has happened in a third world country or a plague which the lower ones in this world have to endure.

I am very sorry for the loss of lives there but then this is the hard way the West will understand the meaning of ' terrrorism' and stop taking the moral high view in these matters.

Just an aside - was Norway not the one that shielded LTTE terrorists and meddled in Sri Lanka's matters?



If you lie down with dogs, you are bound to get up with fleas.

The LTTE fiasco is one that the norway will not shake off easily.

They double dealt through out that episode only to get caught in the end, with absolutely no remorse or even self examination or introspection today.

Always trying to punch far above their puny weight.

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Postby VikB » 23 Jul 2011 18:06

I was there once. The only thing they think makes them the ultimate in the world is the Nobel prizes. The scukers forget that the money for the prizes has come from selling of arms and ammunition only. And then they give the Nobel peace prize to Obama!!

Whoever the terrorist was (report says it is a local guy), terror cannot be dealt piece-meal. You encourage terror in Mumbai and the whole world crankies get the idea.

They fine tune terror ideas in India and then execute in West. Will the West not understand this simple thing?

1993, serial blasts in Mumbai with 200+ dead but the US ignored it. Idea of simultaneous attacks got picked up as a terror 'best practice' in the Toyota of terror - Pakistan. Led to 9/11. They got to our suburban trains and they got Madrid and London. We had a 26/11 and now they have one madman in Oslo. The analysis in the report above is so true - bombs kill less as compared to guns. though terribly wounded are less in latter case but then the media touts only 'X dead and y wounded' - clubbing the handicapped for life with the ones out with bruises.

I wont be surprised if there are more gun attacks. India is prepared- materially and psychologically. Is the West ready? The entire Norway paralaysed by one man. Here a State sponsors multiple attacks yet the Indian life goes on. Beat that?

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Postby VikB » 23 Jul 2011 18:45

Sorry but cant resist. I think this is related to attack in Mumbai
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14259356

At the scene

Richard Galpin

BBC News, near Utoeya

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A search is going on not just on the island itself, but also in the waters around it because a lot of people tried to escape by jumping in the water and trying to swim away. Even as they did that, eyewitnesses say, the gunman opened fire on them.

The chatter now is that it took the police an hour, if not an hour and a half, to actually get to the island. Of course that gave the gunman so much time to kill so many people.

Also crucially, the police were throwing all their resources at the huge bomb attack which had just taken place in the centre of Oslo.

But still, the question will be asked: Were there not police nearer to this area who could have moved in much more quickly?

Does the above not sound like what we heard from our awesome media after 26/11 and how less fire power we had with police. I remember some Amrikki police nut in Newyork saying that this was not possible there?

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Postby VikB » 23 Jul 2011 22:52

Vikas Raina, you were so right

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/07 ... index.html

A post in Breivik's name on an online forum, Document.no, from December 2009, talks about non-Muslim teenagers being "in an especially precarious situation with regards to being harassed by Islamic youth."

"I know of many hundred occasions where non-Muslims have been robbed, beaten up and harassed by Islamic gangs," the post reads. "I had a best friend between the ages of 12-17 who was a Pakistani, so I was one of the many protected, cool 'potatoes' that had protection. But this also made me see the hypocrisy up close and personal and made me nauseous."


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Krishna-Khar meet strictly followed pre-fixed script
'Home Minister P Chidambaram told his Pakistan counterpart Rehman Malik last week in Thimpu that the (26/11) trial has become a mockery as four judges have been changed, that only two genuine arrests were made while six were arraigned and as regarding the rest, they are not the real accused.'

Pakistan side is dithering from sending voice samples of the accused of 26/11 attacks because it is against fundamental rights in that country. Malik had told Chidambaram that he would move an amendment in the Pakistan National Assembly to make changes in the law. :rotfl:


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Pakis have fundamental rights? :rotfl: Malik sounds more and more like Iraq's Comic Ali.


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ISI threatens retaliation if 26/11 lawsuit continues

Kevin Walsh, a lawyer representing Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency, urged a judge to throw out the lawsuit - filed last year by relatives of New Yorkers murdered in a Hasidic center during the 2008 terror attacks in Mumbai, India. "The consequences of this judicial inquiry have the potential to be disastrous," Walsh argued in a letter filed Friday with a federal judge. "The intrusion of these actions into the politics of Pakistan will fuel violence and extremism, directed against the government the US intends to support," the attorney argues.

The suit was filed by relatives of Gavriel Noah Holtzberg, a rabbi originally from Brooklyn, and his pregnant wife, Rivka, who were gunned down when terrorists stormed the Chabad Lubavitch center in a commando-style attack that also killed the couple’s unborn child. The Holtzberg’s 2 year-old son survived the attack after being rescued by an employee. He now lives with his grandfather in Israel. The lawsuit asked for unspecified damages and cites claims that the ISI has worked closely with the Lashkar-e-Taiba terror group.

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Postby ramana » 02 Aug 2011 19:44

AdityaM wrote:26/11 attack mindmap



Great find. Note its total absence of David Headley/ Doaud Gilani and Tawahur Rana role.

Wish we had a team of BRF memebrs put together a more complete mind map in the same format.


Thanks for linking the same as an example of what can be done to to ogranize the info on the myriad topics on BRF.

They use BRF as a source for their data in some links.

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Postby ramana » 02 Aug 2011 21:03

Is it sufficient time to critique the GOI response to the Mumbai attacks? Right after the attacks it would be callous, but not to do so for ever is even more so.


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ATC hearing the 26/11 case issues contempt notice to Interior Minister Rehman Malik
A Pakistani anti-terrorism court conducting the trial of seven suspects in the Mumbai attacks on Wednesday issued a contempt notice to Interior Minister Rehman Malik for announcing that a judicial commission would visit India soon, though the court had not yet decided the matter. {Rehman Malik should not be blamed. He resorted to the usual Pakistani tactic of perfidy. He conveyed this to P.Chidambaram on July 23 a week before Hina Rabbani Khar's India visit. This was done to preempt Indian accusation of Pakistan doing nothing on 26/11. He did not want the fashionable but novice minister Ms. Khar to come under attack in India. The Court pretends not to understand this perfidy. Rehman Malik would now use this as an excuse when he meets P.Chidambaram later that his hands are tied down by the ATC. The court, the minister, the police, the PA, political parties all work hand in glove.}

Judge Shahid Rafique of the Rawalpindi-based court issued the notice in response to a petition moved by defence lawyers, who contended that Mr. Malik had committed contempt of court by stating in a media interview last month that the Pakistani commission would go to India within 10 days even though the court had not decided on the formation of the commission.

During the proceedings conducted behind closed doors at Adiala Jail for security reasons, the judge directed Mr. Malik to respond to the notice at the next hearing on August 13.

“The Interior Minister told the media on the sidelines of a SAARC meeting in Bhutan last month that the commission would go to India within 10 days even though the matter is pending in the court. The court is yet to decide the issue in the light of arguments by the defence and the prosecution,” defence lawyer Shahbaz Rajput told PTI.

“The Minister’s remarks have created an impression that he is controlling the proceedings in the anti-terrorism court and interfering in them. The integrity of the court has been affected and the minister’s remarks were prejudicial and that is why we have decided to protest,” he said.

The defence lawyers argued in court that Mr. Malik’s comments had created the impression that the anti-terrorism court and the Interior Minister have already decided the issue of sending the commission to India.

The anti-terrorism court is currently hearing two petitions regarding the formation of the commission to be sent to India to interview key persons associated with the 2008 Mumbai attacks, including the police officer who investigated the incident and the magistrate who recorded the confession of lone surviving attacker Ajmal Kasab.

In a related development, the prosecution told the judge that it wanted to present three witnesses in the case.

The judge said these witnesses could depose during the next hearing on August 13.

The seven Pakistani suspects, including LeT commander Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi, have been accused of planning, facilitating and financing the November 2008 attacks in India’s financial hub that killed 166 people.

The trial has been marred by repeated delays and only one out of over 160 prosecution witnesses has testified so far.

Justice Rafique is the fifth judge to hear the case since proceedings began in early 2009.


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