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Postby ramana » 10 Aug 2011 20:23

In retorospect the TSP saw the US as an accessory to the Mumbai 26/11 raza due to the Daoud Gilanis's connections to the US agencies. It could be in-advertant or not. Inadvertant as US did not know what Gilani was doing in TSP while working undercover for them. Or he could have been an agent provacator workign for US, egging on LeT to more daring attacks to reveal their true role.

Either way MMS inaction due to what ever reasons has revealed more than lashing out against TSP would have done.

It would have been better of MKN had trapped the razakar gang and got more of them alive. But then the Mumbai Policeman's bravery led to atleast Kasab being caught.

The rest is history.

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Postby ramana » 11 Aug 2011 20:09

Why are 26/11 investigations still in limbo?


Why are the Mumbai 26/11 investigations still in limbo?

August 11, 2011 01:21 PM |
Karan Kharb

The nation cannot depend on the US—and of course, Pakistan, to nab the terrorists. Security issues have to be dealt with directly by India through an efficient mechanism with an effective intelligence gathering system, swift combat response, hot pursuit and follow-up methods to effectively fight and eradicate the menace of terrorism

Pakistan's reluctance in prosecuting the sponsors of the 26/11 Mumbai attacks has angered us continually even though a few suspects including Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi, the LeT (Lashkar-e-Toiba) operations commander were arrested and put through trial under pressure of mounting world opinion. However, the Indian government, media and people—all have been fuming at the Pakistan government's unyielding attitude on the issue. Nevertheless, while an atmosphere of peace, friendship and cooperation is always the best option for both the countries, aren't we asking for too much in expecting Pakistan to prosecute the people who, it secretly believes, deserve gallantry awards? How naïve of India to expect that her tormenter would come to her rescue! As if we should have asked then President Musharraf to hand over or prosecute Pakistani Army officers and men guilty of the Kargil 1999 intrusion. Agreed, these are the times of outsourcing businesses; but outsourcing matters of national security to Pakistan or the United States would be simply preposterous with disastrous outcomes. Security issues have to be dealt with directly by us through an efficient mechanism with effective intelligence collection system, swift combat response, hot pursuit and follow up methods to effectively fight and defeat the menace of terrorism.

What is more dangerous for the national security is a corruption aided tendency in our officialdom to pass the buck and cover up the mounting inefficiency in police, local administration and intelligence agencies at all levels. Neither our intelligence agencies nor the Mumbai police had any clue about David Headley—the Lashkar member and lead scout of 26/11, who continued visiting and holidaying in Delhi, Mumbai and rest of India for years before and after the Mumbai attack until he was arrested by the FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation) sleuths in the United States.

And now we want him to be made over to us for 'further action'. The working of the police and intelligence agencies has been disappointing because blinded by rampant corruption they keep groping in the darkness without seeing much. Local suspects arrested from far-off places like Kolkata, Srinagar and Delhi have not led Mumbai police beyond primary level information like how the terrorists managed Indian SIM cards and little else. They did not examine their own surroundings and failed to penetrate the network in Mumbai that made 26/11 possible, no matter how well the ISI had trained and equipped them.

An operation like 26/11 could not have been possible without a prearranged foolproof support base in Mumbai. Typical, military operations in border areas may be carried out without a 'support base in situ' if the objective is clearly identifiable and covered approaches are available. 'Covered approach' in military parlance means a concealed route chosen by the attacker to obscure his movement from enemy observation. But navigating through the hustle and bustle of Mumbai roads and carrying out a simultaneous raid at 10 different targets including Taj Hotel, Oberoi Trident Hotel, Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus, Leopold Café, Nariman House Jewish Centre and Cama Hospital by terrorists coming ashore for the first time ever on an alien land humming with activity will be a foolish idea most unlikely to succeed unless intimately supported from the target end. A terrorist squad, howsoever well trained, leaving Karachi for Mumbai, not by air but by sea, would require pre-positioning of a reliable and well organised 'support base' with tentacles at sea, at the beach and in the city. It is understood that the overall coordination and monitoring controls would continue to function from Pakistan. And lo, we have not yet looked for those who constituted this support base for the terrorists and arranged for their reception, guidance, security/disguise, logistics, transport and, if possible, a get-away plan after the operation is over.

Having planned and participated in operations in the elite counter terrorist force, the National Security Guard (NSG), I have some idea about the functioning of Special Forces like ISI (Pakistan), Mossad (Israel), Delta Force (US), GSG-9 (Germany), SAS (UK), et al. While it might sound highly unethical and illegal, it is not unusual for the state secret services to recruit and utilise terrorists, smugglers and criminals to carry out covert operations deep inside enemy territory. Even assassinations and kidnappings are part of the game. Sometimes, victims also are grouped, armed and trained to fight insurgents on behalf of the state like the 'Salwa Judum' in Chhattisgarh. Therefore, it is no big revelation that Ajmal Kasab and his buddies were trained under the ISI's supervision. The manner in which Mumbai 26/11 was executed made it abundantly clear that the operation was planned and executed under expert supervision of the Pakistan Army and the ISI. The tactics, weaponry, grenades, composite survival provisions, medicines, steroids and communication system used by the terrorists pointed towards them unambiguously. Nevertheless, what has got overshadowed by the 'Headley confessions' is the need and urgency of home scrutiny that could have busted the 'in-city network' before it melted away.

Some vital aspects that should have been explored on priority by the Mumbai police and intelligence agencies involved in investigations are:

1. An operation of the type of 26/11 has to be preceded by detailed reconnaissance and surveillance of the target area to assess its vulnerability vis-à-vis security status, suitable time of attack; communication, route, transport, navigational assistance and disguise required.

2. Contingency plans to strike at other targets in the event of initial plans becoming too difficult to execute.

3. Necessity to maintain total secrecy till the last moment.

4. An unobtrusive but tactically useful location near or at the target itself for reconnaissance/surveillance personnel to acquaint themselves with the profile of the target and routine activities, state of security vigilance, vulnerability level etc. Ideally, such surveillance would be mounted several days ahead of the D-day. These advance elements may either join the assault team or withdraw just prior to the H-hour for other tasks.

5. A suitable 'Safe House' for the advance elements and contingencies.

6. Elements who are assigned such missions also need local contacts to merge with the local milieu without rousing suspicions.

7. They might use more than one type of electronic network like satellite phones, mobile phones, radio, VoIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) etc.

8. It may sometimes become necessary for such terror teams to kill their supporters whom they consider might get caught and blow up in the operation before it is launched, for example the killing of the Captain of the fishing trawler 'Kuber' and taxi drivers.

9. Requirement of subsidiary support like planted media stories, flare up of communal violence, sympathetic political leaders diverting public attention, human rights activists blaming police and security forces, help line activists provoking help seekers etc., can tilt public mood adversely. We have live examples of this support extended by our own leaders like the Congress general secretary Digvijay Singh who blamed "the RSS inspired Hindu extremists for Hemant Karkare's death" and by AR Antulay, then a Union Minister who said "Hemant Karkare's death might be linked to his investigation of the 2006 Malegaon blasts believed to be handiwork of some Hindu extremists."

It is also important for the investigating agencies to understand the mechanics of planning and execution of such operations. Unlike the earlier blasts and shooting incidents in Mumbai, the attack of 26/11 was qualitatively different. Local assistance and coordination must have been provided by helpful elements at sea, on the beach and in the city, perhaps closer to designated targets. The investigating agencies should have focused on the distinct stages and phases of the operation that would have helped narrow down their search on matters of direct relevance rather than groping all over the globe, looking for a needle in a haystack. An analysis of how the events unfolded suggests that most probably the operation went through the following stages:

1. Preliminary Stage: Selection of volunteers, grouping, training, and other preparations.

2. Phase I: Movement requiring means of transport and navigation at sea from Karachi to Indian waters;

3. Phase II: Reception and marrying up with the advance elements, final briefing from a stand-off distance at sea; and landing on the beach;

4. Phase III: Quick dispersal of teams in pre-arranged vehicles for their designated targets;

5. Phase IV: Execution.

Normally, terrorists tasked for such operations are so deeply indoctrinated that they operate almost under a spell and will normally neither surrender nor get arrested alive. Kasab is a rare and lucky find for the Mumbai police.

But it is not only the Mumbai police; the entire system of our governance has been seriously damaged by corruption. It is because of corruption that failure in performance does not get punished and the inefficient and delinquent officers manoeuvre their way up the ladders without much hassle. Gratuitous returns have sickened our leaders, departments and forces that nothing seems to move us speedily in the direction required. We all are aware about the power base of the underworld in Mumbai, the finance capital of India. With Dawood's clout spread in Karachi, Dubai and Mumbai, it should have been possible to pick up more leads to reach more logical conclusions unless these leads led to someone too hot to touch.

Last week I ran into a Pakistani journalist at a seminar in Delhi and asked him why his government was sheltering the LeT operatives like Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi and other criminals wanted by India even when his country is suffering most from terrorism. He retorted, "You are quick to blame Pakistan for not proceeding strictly and swiftly enough against those who are accused of their role in the Mumbai attack of 26/11. Whereas we have proceeded against the suspects of the Mumbai attack despite India not sharing the evidence collected in this regard, aren't you sheltering Afzal Guru despite a death sentence by your own Supreme Court even after his review petition has been rejected and the sentence again confirmed? I'm happy you have not yet blamed Pakistan for this." (Afzal Guru was sentenced to death in 2004 for the attack on the Indian Parliament, was to be hanged on 20 October 2006 but lives on for no apparent reason. His mercy appeal for presidential clemency has been under consideration since 2006!). I tried to explain to him the legal rights of such convicts but he countered me yet again, "In another case, it was your cabinet minister who escorted Maulana Masood Azhar and his co-prisoners aboard a special flight and delivered them to freedom and safety in Kandahar and now you want Pakistan to arrest and send them to you. Isn't it funny?"

I had no answer. At the functional level of administration, we lack professionalism. At the national level, we do not know how to deal with serious situations at home or abroad. Result: no police or army officer knows about the 'government policy' in the event of a hijack or hostage situation because unlike Israel, India has no defined policy on it. Likewise, diplomatically, we are still in an ambivalent state while dealing with nations involved in the Arab Spring. Is India on the right path to assume her global role in the emerging world? Course correction in our governance was never needed more.

(The writer is a military veteran who commanded an Infantry battalion with many successes in counter-terrorist operations. He was also actively involved in numerous high-risk operations as second in command of the elite 51 Special Action Group of the National Security Guard (NSG.) He conducts leadership training and is the author of two bestsellers on leadership development that have also been translated into foreign languages).



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Postby SSridhar » 28 Aug 2011 08:20

Pak Court allows setting up of panel to visit India
A Pakistani anti-terrorism court on Saturday allowed the setting up of a commission to be sent to India to record the statements of key witnesses in the 2008 Mumbai attack case.

“Now the government of Pakistan will constitute the commission in the light of the court's order. The government will also speak to India and finalise modalities in this regard,” prosecutor Chaudhry Zulfiqar, who had filed the application, told PTI.

Mr. Zulifqar said the visit of a Pakistani commission to India was necessary to make a headway in the trial of the seven accused .

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Postby SSridhar » 10 Sep 2011 15:52

Trial in Pakistan adjourned until Sep. 17
The trial of seven Pakistanis charged with involvement in the 2008 Mumbai attacks was adjourned for a week after one of the key accused, Lashkar-e-Taiba commander Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi, filed a petition against the judge of the anti-terrorism court.

During a hearing held behind closed doors in Rawalpindi’s Adiala Jail, due to security reasons, Mr. Lakhvi’s lawyers submitted the petition in which he expressed dissatisfaction with Judge Shahid Rafique.

Mr. Lakhvi alleged the judge was working under the influence of Pakistan’s Interior Ministry, the prosecution and the Indian government.

Mr. Lakhvi asked for the judge to be changed, claiming he could not expect justice from him.

There were no proceedings after the petition was filed and the judge adjourned the case till September 17, sources said.

Three prosecution witnesses were expected to testify today.

The proceedings have already been marred by controversies and technical delays and the judge has been changed four times.

Chief prosecutor Chaudhry Zulfiqar said the defence lawyers became annoyed with Judge Rafique after he allowed the formation of a commission to go to India to interview key officials linked to the investigation of the Mumbai attacks.

The defence lawyers were now resorting to “delaying tactics”, he said.{The prosecution lawyer is also in it. He pretends otherwise. Delaying and scuttling this case is a national project of Pakistan.}

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Postby SSridhar » 20 Sep 2011 15:00

More delay in Pakistani trial, Judge transferred yet again
With reports from Pakistan suggesting that the judge handling 26/11 trial has been transferred yet again, government sources said that the delay in bringing the guilty to book was increasingly becoming a matter of concern. Speaking on condition of anonymity, officials said that there was no progress in the trial had become "as clear as daylight".

Pakistan is conducting the trial of seven men, including Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi, who have been charged with planning and facilitating the terror strike. Judge Shahid Rafique, who had earlier allowed formation of a panel that will visit India to record statements of important witnesses, was transferred on Saturday.

"We have said in the past that the trial is moving at a glacial pace. It is now clear as daylight that there is no progress at all and this is of very serious concern. We want to reiterate that the trial be expedited," said a government source on condition of anonymity.

According to reports from Pakistan, Rafique is the fifth judge to have been transferred since the trial began. What is interesting is that barely over a week ago, Lakhvi's lawyers had filed a petition in the Lahore High Court seeking removal of Rafique from the trial, saying he was acting at the behest of the Pakistan interior ministry and the Indian government.

There was no progress in the hearing on Saturday because of Rafique's transfer. The September 10 hearing too did not see any headway because of Lakhvi's petition seeking Rafique's transfer. LeT commander Lakhvi is one of the main accused in the case. He said in the petition that he could not expect justice from the judge. The prosecution believes that this petition was filed in anger after Rafique allowed the formation of panel, which is likely to visit India to examine eyewitnesses in the Mumbai attacks.

While the government refrained from going public with its reaction, sources said that the delay was in no way going to help the ongoing dialogue between the 2 countries. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh only last week said, without naming Pakistan, that cross-border terror camps had been reactivated.


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Postby chetak » 21 Sep 2011 05:56

In the meanwhile, back at the ranch, more biriyani for kasab :lol:

We really don't know when to quit. Due process, my @$$.

Why do our curiae have so much of amicus for kasab and afzal guru and that other JNU "professor" gilani??

Further, the Bench referred to Mr. Geelani's untruthful pleas about his contacts with Afzal and Shaukat and said the needle of suspicion pointed to him. However, "suspicion alone is not sufficient to convict a person."


Due process: SC asks top lawyer to defend Kasab

Wed Sep 21 2011,

Sending a strong signal of the supremacy of due process, the Supreme Court has approached senior advocate Raju Ramchandran to defend Ajmal Kasab in his death row appeal as amicus curiae of the court.



Kasab is the lone terrorist arrested for the Mumbai attacks that killed 164 people. His application for stay of execution of the death sentence is expected to come up in the apex court any time now.



The Bombay High Court had upheld the trial court’s award of death sentence in February.



Ramachandran, when contacted, confirmed the development.

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Postby SSridhar » 21 Sep 2011 19:36

Chetak, it doesn't really matter anymore. There won't be any hanging. Everybody suddenly seems to think in this wretched country that the State cannot extinguish any life even after all legal processes. Kasab, therefore, need not fear. As one Tamil political heavy-weight said in the context of the Rajiv killers, even condemned prisoners must be given an opportunity to turn a new life. Can there be a greater punishment than India releasing him thereby telling the worst doers that this is the way we are and that's how we punish benignly ?

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Postby RamaY » 04 Oct 2011 20:44

Quick question - What phones (make, model) mumbai attackers used?

For example if they are black-berries or VoIP phones, then they are given by unkil to hide the traces??? what kind of issues there will be once the phone technology moves into cloud-computing? In such a scenario, even having the access to the h/w will not yield much intelligence.....

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Postby ramana » 05 Oct 2011 00:07

Two contradictory reports

1 Wired magazine says Blackberries used:

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008/12/the-gagdets-of/

2. Ind Exp says expert witness says Nokia phones made in PRC were used:
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/cell- ... fr/502132/

Note Ind Exp says five mobiles (for abduls)were Nokia. Maybe the rest had BBs?


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Postby chaanakya » 10 Oct 2011 20:25

x-posting


Don't give me death, I was brainwashed like a robot: Kasab
NEW DELHI: Pakistani terrorist Ajmal Kasab facing death penalty for the 2008 Mumbai terror attack claimed in the Supreme Court he was brainwashed like a "robot" into committing the heinous crime in the name of "God" and that he does not deserve capital punishment owing to his young age.


What a disingenuous way of defending himself. I this argument is accepted then every Paki pig can come kill and plead same defense. The sooner he is hanged along with AG the better.

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Postby Lalmohan » 10 Oct 2011 20:32

maybe he will spill more beans?

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Postby chaanakya » 10 Oct 2011 20:45

we can always get other pigs to spill the beans which we already know but don't act, seemingly.

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Postby ramana » 10 Oct 2011 23:43

I think the SC two bench judges are making a mockery of due process. Is it their contention that Kasab did not get due process? If not then what is their contention? And pontificating while sitting on the bench is ridiculous.

Kasab is not an ordinary criminal. He is part of a terrorist gang sent from Pakistan that killed Indian citizens. At a minimum he is responsible for the massacre at the train station and shooting death of the two policemen. What due process was not followed that the justices in their high perch saw?

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Postby Virupaksha » 11 Oct 2011 00:09

Usually, all the death punishment cases are reviewed by the SC. It can be termed as SOP.

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Postby chaanakya » 11 Oct 2011 15:54

Virupaksha wrote:Usually, all the death punishment cases are reviewed by the SC. It can be termed as SOP.


No, if there is appeal by the convict/his lawyer then only.

After this there is mercy petition to Governor/President. and the all politicking that goes with it.

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Postby SSridhar » 04 Nov 2011 19:10

Pakistan judicial commission to visit India soon
Pakistan on Friday informed India that its Judicial Commission, to interview certain important persons connected with the 26/11 terror attack case probe, would visit here soon.

Pakistani High Commissioner to India Shahid Malik who met Union Home Minister P. Chidambaram conveyed to him that Islamabad would be soon sending the Judicial Commission to carry forward the process of bringing the conspirators of 26/11 terror attack in Mumbai to justice.

"I came to inform the Minister that the Government of Pakistan will be sending the Judicial Commission to carry the process forward and I have mentioned that to the Minister. We will formally be informing the Indian government shortly,’’ he told journalists outside the North Block office of the Home Ministry after the meeting. He added that dates of the proposed visit of the Judicial Commission were yet to be finalised.

The Judicial Commission from Pakistan is to take the statements of Additional Chief Metropolitan Magistrate R.V. Sawant Waghule and Investigating Officer Ramesh Mahale, who have recorded the confessional statement of Ajmal Kasab, the lone surviving terrorist of the 26/11 attacks, to pursue the case there. It also wants to take the statement of the doctor who carried out the post mortem of the terrorists killed during the attack.

"The Government of India has been informed. The Home Minister has been informed by me that we will be sending a Commission. Now it is the Indian government to give us certain details,’’ the Pakistan High Commissioner said without disclosing further details.

During the Home Secretary-level talks in March, India agreed to a Pakistani proposal to host a Judicial Commission of that country.

Asked how soon the Commission will visit India, Mr. Malik said: "I cannot put a date to it. Now the process has started. So, I am sure it will take place soon. At the moment, I have come to inform the Home Minister that we have decided to send a Commission.’’

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Postby sum » 04 Nov 2011 19:20

^^ In piskology type sentence:
the rapist is now coming over to conduct a investigation and wants to go to the victim's house to medically examine if the victim was indeed raped and just certify it and return back to his home.

And the victim and family seem to be eagerly looking forward to this visit instead of preparing to give a jhapad to the rapist.

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Postby SSridhar » 05 Nov 2011 18:03

ATC summons 4 witnesses
A Pakistani anti-terrorism court conducting the trial of seven suspects charged in the Mumbai attacks case summoned four prosecution witnesses on Saturday to record their statements at the next hearing on November 19.

Judge Shahid Rafique, who is conducting the trial in Rawalpindi's Adiala Jail for security reasons, summoned the witnesses to depose as proceedings got underway again following a delay of several weeks.

The case had been held up due to a petition filed in the Lahore High Court by Lashkar-e-Taiba commander Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi, the main accused in the case.

Lakhvi had sought the transfer of the case from Rawalpindi to Lahore, saying he had no confidence in Judge Rafique. The Lahore High Court dismissed Lakhvi's petition on October 31, saying the matter came under the jurisdiction of the Islamabad High Court. {Of course, the defence lawyers knew that they had to appeal to the newly created Islamabad High Court and yet they chose to appeal to the Lahore High Court in order to cause delay in the proceedings.}

The court said Lakhvi could approach the Islamabad High Court. Lakhvi's counsel Khwaja Sultan said his client had not yet decided whether to approach the Islamabad high court. {Of course, the Islamabad High Court will be approached}

Prosecution lawyer Chaudhry Zulfiqar said the anti-terrorism court had already dismissed Lakhvi's petition for shifting the case to Lahore.

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Postby ramana » 15 Nov 2011 05:43

For all those lamenting non-hanging of Kasab, recall that US hasn't even started trails of the 9/11 suspects that have been caught.

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Postby Austin » 19 Nov 2011 23:05

ramana wrote:For all those lamenting non-hanging of Kasab, recall that US hasn't even started trails of the 9/11 suspects that have been caught.


If US is the benchmark for us then we should also go in and take out known terrorist in Pakistan like US does .

US any ways is dealing with many figures involved in 9/11 , we are just dealing with a single individual caught by chance , hanging him will any way not solve our problem when the masterminds are free and we do precious little to get them overtly or covertly.

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Postby Aditya_V » 19 Nov 2011 23:11

ramana wrote:For all those lamenting non-hanging of Kasab, recall that US hasn't even started trails of the 9/11 suspects that have been caught.


But they have killed the mastermind? how many Paki Khaki officers have we killed? None,

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Postby rajsunder » 20 Nov 2011 00:44

ramana wrote:Two contradictory reports

1 Wired magazine says Blackberries used:

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008/12/the-gagdets-of/

2. Ind Exp says expert witness says Nokia phones made in PRC were used:
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/cell- ... fr/502132/

Note Ind Exp says five mobiles (for abduls)were Nokia. Maybe the rest had BBs?

there was a news item which said that the terrorists used BB's from the people they killed in taj hotel.

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Postby Aditya_V » 21 Nov 2011 14:26

Mahesh Bhatt gets adult film actress for Murder 3

he Bhatts have decided to bring together ex-Bigg Boss housemate Rahul Bhatt


So people who were either injured or had their relatives killed on 26/11 can now reward this SOB with millions of rupees for helping David Headley in his recce activities. Wonderful how things for you if your are close to the INC hierarchy.

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Postby Sushupti » 22 Nov 2011 01:12

Frenchman who could have stopped 08 Mumbai attacks | Bruguiere traced LeT links to US, France & Oz

Could This Man’s Warnings Have Prevented the Mumbai Attacks?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... i-attacks/

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Postby chaanakya » 22 Nov 2011 10:29

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 822552.cms

So far, Rs 5.29 crore has been spent on setting up a special cell for Kasab. The expenditure on the deployment of ITBP has been Rs 10.87 crore; Rs 27,520 has been spent on food and Rs 26,953 on medicines. "The cost of food has been steadily rising but we are able to keep it roughly about Rs 25 per day," said the official.

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Postby ramana » 22 Nov 2011 21:05

chaanakya wrote:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Maharashtra-has-spent-Rs-16-crore-on-Kasab-so-far/articleshow/10822552.cms

So far, Rs 5.29 crore has been spent on setting up a special cell for Kasab. The expenditure on the deployment of ITBP has been Rs 10.87 crore; Rs 27,520 has been spent on food and Rs 26,953 on medicines. "The cost of food has been steadily rising but we are able to keep it roughly about Rs 25 per day," said the official.


Shouldn't he worry about cost cutting for the large ITBP deployment! Does Kasab need such high level of security? The special cell is useful for future malcontents.

Looks like misplaced concern on the costs structure.

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Postby ramana » 23 Nov 2011 00:04

Folks Nov 26th is the third anniversary of the attack. Please do whatever to spread the awareness and have a moment of prayer for the victims and wish the dead terrorists are enjoying the jahliya.

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Postby Upendra » 23 Nov 2011 22:04

abhishek_sharma wrote:Views from the left

Talk under pressure

The CPI argues the “verbal duel” between India and Pakistan over resumption of dialogue shows that the rulers of both the countries are increasingly depending on the US even for an improvement in bilateral relations, which “is a bad omen for the entire region.” The editorial in New Age says that, till some time ago, sections within the Indian government had adopted a tough posture vis-a-vis Pakistan, claiming Islamabad is not serious about prosecuting the perpetrators of 26/11. “But the chorus was diluted when the FBI arrested someone who happens to be a US citizen of Pakistani origin as the mastermind of the Mumbai attack. Though our intelligence agencies have not been allowed access to the arrested American, despite a visit to the USA, we are now in two minds: whether to depend on our own investigations or rely on what the Americans are giving out,” it claims.

The editorial claims this confusion was reflected when New Delhi all of a sudden proposed the resumption of dialogue. It goes on to attack the US’s motives: “We must realise that American imperialists have their own agenda for this region. The growing difficulties in Afghanistan for the occupying forces have forced the Obama administration to drag in new allies... The USA needs both India and Pakistan. That should explain American interest in a resumption of dialogue,” it argues.

It, however, adds that for peace and political stability and to fight terrorism and religious fundamentalism, “a sustainable peace process between India and Pakistan is inevitable.” It calls for de-linking dialogue with prosecution of the “presumed culprits” of 26/11.


Commies proving again why they are always a threat to people's lives, this time shielding the pakistani terrorist establishment. Shows the contempt in which the commies hold the life of a common man.

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Postby arun » 27 Nov 2011 10:20

Excerpt from the Times of India interview of our Home Minister Mr. P. Chidambaram on the third anniversary of the Islamic Terrorist 26/11 attack of Mumbai instigated by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

Q. Pakistan is supposed to send a judicial commission to India in connection with the 26\11 probe? Pakistan says it is ready. When is it happening? Where is the delay?

A. There is no delay in our part. We had always said that the judicial commission can be sent to India. Then, they wanted to know the name of the judge and the venue. Both of which have been communicated to them. Now, they will have to indicate the date and send the commission.

Q. Pakistani judicial commission is supposed to take statements from the magistrate, investigating officer of the case and doctors. It will then submit its report to the court. What if, the court there does not accept all this as evidence to prosecute the accused? What will be the next step then?

A. See, what they are coming here for is to gather what we call formal evidence...talk to the magistrate who recorded the confession, two doctors who did the post-mortem and the investigating officer. This is not the substantial evidence to prosecute the accused there. They must first arrest the real accused. I have pointed out to my counterpart that among the persons who have been accused in the case only two are key players. The others are only the foot-soldiers. The real culprits are still at large. They will have to be arrested. I have given them (Pakistan) names. The accused have to be interrogated, chargesheet has to be filed against them, and the evidence has to be presented against them. I don't think we should allow ourselves to be deluded by the argument that the evidence that they'll collect in India will convict those accused. The evidence that is collected in India is purely formal evidence.

Q. There have been anti-India rallies in Pakistan this week where Jamaat-ud-Dawa ( JuD) chief Hafiz Saeed openly gave inflammatory speeches. Pakistan continues to allow him to do that. He is roaming free as the country's interior minister Rehman Malik says there is no evidence against him.

A. Free speech does not extend to threatening another country. Do we allow free speech in this country that threatens Pakistan, that threatens that militants or young men will enter Pakistan and commit acts of violence? A separate dossier has been given to them on Hafiz Saeed with a CD containing his speeches. The United States has named JuD as a terrorist organization and asked Pakistan to name it as a terrorist organization. I think it is completely unacceptable for Pakistan to say they have no evidence against Hafiz Saeed. Hafiz Saeed must be investigated. He must be interrogated. But, if you treat him as a state guest for a while and then let him go and do whatever he does and say whatever he says, it only brings into the question the credibility of the Pakistan government.

Q. What is your take on reports that the 26\11 terror attack case accused Zaki-ur-Rehman-Lakhvi and others are freely using mobile phones in jail there?

A. I am inclined to believe it (the reports) because I know that jail security all over the world is extremely porous and very poor. Even in Indian jails, hardened criminals have access to mobile phones. I am inclined to believe that Lakhvi and others had access to mobile telephones in Pakistani jails.

Q. What about the promise of Pakistan to give 'voice samples' of the 26\11 terror attack case accused to India. You had raised the issue when you were in Pakistan in June last year. What happened to that promise made by your counterpart Rehman Malik?

A. They haven't (given voice samples). We have several times asked for it ...through our high commissioner, through home secretary level talks...we have asked for the voice samples. We have given names of persons that they should arrest, who we think are the key persons. But they have not arrested them. They have not given us their voice samples. I have raised it with the Pakistan high commissioner who called on me about three weeks ago. I asked him what happened to the offer of voice samples, what happened to my request that the six or seven persons should be arrested. He had no answer.


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Pakistan treats Hafiz Saeed as a state guest instead of interrogating him: Chidambaram

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Re: Mumbai Terrorist Attack-News stories and timeline

Postby SSridhar » 27 Nov 2011 10:29

Rehman Malik hopeful of sending judicial panel
As India marked the third anniversary of the Mumbai terror attacks with demands for credible and speedy action against Pakistan-based masterminds, Pakistan's Interior Minister Rehman Malik expressed the hope that his country would send a Judicial Commission to India within a week.

According to local media reports, Mr. Malik on Friday said the Pakistan government was awaiting court clearance for the names it had suggested for the Commission that would record the testimonies of the magistrate and investigating officer who recorded the confessional statement of Ajmal Kasab, lone surviving terrorist.

The Pakistan government has also sought access to the doctor who carried out the post mortem on the terrorists killed in the attack so as to record his statement for presenting it in the anti-terrorism court (ATC), which is hearing the case in the high-security Adiala Jail in Rawalpindi. India's contention is that only two of the seven arrested by Pakistan in the case are of any consequence.

The issue of a Judicial Commission has been hanging fire for over a year now. Pakistan first mooted the Judicial Commission after India refused its request to send Kasab to testify in the ATC since the dossiers sent by New Delhi were inadmissible. As a way out of this stalemate, Pakistan decided to invoke the provisions of Chapter XL of Pakistan's Code of Criminal Procedure which provides for setting up such a Commission.

New Delhi agreed to a visit by the Judicial Commission in March this year at the Home/Interior Secretary-level talks after Islamabad conveyed its readiness, in principle, to entertain a Commission from India to Pakistan in connection with the case on the basis of the principle of comity and reciprocity, according to the joint statement issued at the end of the talks.

About the long-drawn out process, Pakistan Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar said that at the Prime Minister-level bilateral engagement in the Maldives “I told them that if you get exasperated on the Mumbai trial, Samjhauta happened months earlier than that. How come we are not showing our exasperation as you are? Because we have a reality check that the judicial process in India is very similar to the judicial process in Pakistan; and we know how these processes work.”

Further, she said, India did not raise the Mumbai terror attacks case in the Maldives the way it was raised in New Delhi at the Foreign Minister-level talks. “The Indians and the Indian media also were fairly satisfied on Mumbai.”

The case in Pakistan has seen delays because of frequent changes of judges and various parallel cases filed by the accused. At least five judges have been changed, one of them reportedly under threat. As to why the main accused, Hafiz Saeed of the Jama'at-ud-Da'wah, was still free, Mr. Malik's contention was that no credible evidence had been presented by India against him.

“In the case of Hafiz Saeed, they gave information, not evidence. We arrested Zaki-ur Rehman Lakhvi and he is still in jail. He is a senior member of the Lashkar-e-Taiba. We arrested Hafiz Saeed in the beginning, but he got relief from the High Court and later from the Supreme Court, and we could not keep him in jail. He had delivered fiery speeches and three cases were registered in Faisalabad which were quashed by the court. Even today he is under observation.''{Liar. All these are half truths. No independent investigation was done by Pakistan and the 'facts' were presented in such a fashion that Hafeez Saeed was released. Pakistan did not ban JuD though it promised to do so after the UN ban. It even claimed it had banned but the truth came out in the court. His house arrest was a farce as he was freely moving about and meeting all sorts of visitors. Immediately after his release, Hafeez Saeed attended the iftaar at Lahore Corps HQ upon invitation from the top brass. The Pakistani judges themselves acted in a very biased manner as can be seen from the type of question they asked the prosecutor. All in all, it was farcical to say the least}

See here for a chronology of court drama in Pakistan

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Re: Mumbai Terrorist Attack-News stories and timeline

Postby arun » 27 Nov 2011 10:47

Excerpt from the Hindustan Times interview of our Home Minister Mr. P. Chidambaram on the third anniversary of the Islamic Terrorist 26/11 attack of Mumbai instigated by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

Pakistan has not done much on punishing the culprits of 26/11. Is it unwillingness or inability?

Both. Before we try to answer that, we must ask the question, who is in charge of Pakistan. ISI and the army have significant control over security matters. The civilian government is unable to decide the course of action; is weak and unwilling to risk any confrontation with army or ISI. That's why it is unable to keep its promises to us.

There have been talks about a joint mechanism between India and Pakistan to fight terrorism. You think it can help?

I have not supported the idea. How can we share intelligence with a country that we know has state actors, non-state actors and rogue elements who are acting against India. I think any joint effort with Pakistan on the terror front is very far away until we have a government in that country that is in control and is willing to fight terrorism.


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AT&T hackers have terrorist connections, say Philippines police
The hackers in the Philippines were raising funds for a terrorist group in Saudi Arabia

By John Ribeiro
November 27, 2011 10:49 PM ETAdd a comment
IDG News Service - The U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation and police in the Philippines have jointly busted a ring of four alleged hackers in Manila with connections to a terrorist group in Saudi Arabia, the Criminal Investigation and Detection Group of the Philippines police said last week.

FBI agents, who have been investigating hacking of telecommunication companies in the U.S. and in the country since 1999, have uncovered a "paper trail" of various bank transactions allegedly linking the local hackers to the cell in Saudi Arabia, whose activities include financing terrorist activities, CIDG said in a statement.

The operation last week followed a complaint from AT&T, which suffered losses of up to US$2 million as a result of a hack of its system, the Philippines police agency said.

The Philippines police said that Muhammad Zamir, a Jemaah Islamiyah member, paid the suspects to hack the trunk-line of different telecommunication companies including AT&T. Revenue derived from the hacking was diverted to the account of the terrorists, who paid the Filipino hackers on a commission basis through local banks, CIDG said.

Jemaah Islamiyah is an Islamic militant group that has been active in South East Asia and is said to be linked to some terrorist attacks in the region, including the Bali bombing in 2002.

AT&T and the FBI were not immediately available for comment. AT&T said last week that there was an attempt to obtain information on a number of AT&T customer accounts, but said it did not believe that the perpetrators of the attack obtained access to users' online accounts.

Zamir was arrested in Italy in 2007 by FBI operatives but his group continues to be active, and was later tagged by the FBI to be the financial source of the terrorist attack in Mumbai, India on Nov. 26, 2008. After Zamir's arrest, an unnamed Saudi national took charge of the operation of the group, and also maintained links with the group of hackers in Manila, CIDG said.

In March, FBI requested the assistance of CIDG Anti-Transnational and Cyber Crime Division after it found that the terrorist group had targeted AT&T in the U.S., and the same group of Filipino hackers was involved, CIDG said.


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