karthik wrote:If your wrong, you must know your insulting your own country men and cheating him out of an honest debate! <snip>
This is dumbness beyond repair.
Exactly who is insulting whom? And who is dumb? Could you clarify please.
Who is cheating whom?
I had not seen this reply when I read your question but your question is the classic "You farted" allegation. I presume that you on BR are familiar with the "You farted" game. In case you are not, let me educate you:
The "You farted" game.
The "game" or trick is to get a person on the defensive with an unprovoked accusation. The agenda and tone is set by the accuser and the passive personality goes on the defensive right from the start.
A group of people are sitting together - say 6 or 7 friends in a dorm. Suddenly the foul smell of a fart wafts up.
An accuser personality (call him 'A') picks out a passive personality ('P') and says "Hey P, you farted"
P protests "No I did not"
A: "Yes you did"
P: "Shut up and stop accusing me"
A:"Heh Heh. It's OK. No need to cover your guilt by getting angry. I know you farted. We don't mind - just warn us next time.
What happens in this exchange is that the Accuser 'A' has the initiative all the time. He sets the pace, and he sets the Agenda. He may actually have farted himself, but he gets away giving the impression that "P" is guilty.
In this case, you have intruded on this thread to accuse the Indian army.
Any reply made to your post is a rhetorical victory for you because any reply serves as a successful derailing of the topic of the thread as well as a calling to attention and increasing debate about the primary "You farted" accusation that you made - that is "The India army is guilty of wanton murder". Your topic gets discussed by force because of the exquisite timing and wording you use, backed by a healthy pretence of pompous innocence on your part.
You take the initiative and position yourself in a way by which you are protected from criticism ("Oh I know people are going to sling mud at me") while holding the moral high ground, even as you play victim an claim that YOU are being "cheated" out of an honest debate.
No my dear friend. It does not work that way.
It is you who are trolling. It is still possible to discuss your doubts about the Indian army's murders in an appropriate thread but I put it to you that your intention was never to actually have a debate but to corner people into a rhetorical box by introducing a new topic into an existing discussion and then claiming that YOU are being cheated.
Shush troll. Don't do that. I promise to out-troll you.
If you really have the guts to go beyond "deafening silence" please take your question to the Indian Army thread in the other forum minus the "prophylactic" emotional trash about "knowing that you will be critcized". The minute you say that you are once again setting up rhetorical victory for yourself - because when you are criticised - you can say "See - I told ya!". This is trolling. Not debate.