The Curious Case of Daood Gilani alias David Headley & co

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 15 Nov 2009 21:54

One reason for running an immigration company is that you get to interact with the customs and immigration babus.

Having contacts => Ghoos being paid for small jobs initially so that symbiosis is established.

Then one fine day, some thing big is demanded, and the babus can't refuse, because the money is significant and because 'it worked well with this guy in the past'

The other reason I can think of is to do with passports and visa stamps, though I can't exactly piece together all my thoughts.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 15 Nov 2009 22:09

ramana wrote:How many more front companies / entities are there? Need to develop a profile to ferret its true purpose.

Every Pakistani business dealing with international links is a suspect. If they get the client list of Rana's company, they have many a lot of fronts covered.

Patni · Post by **Patni** » 15 Nov 2009 22:20

http://www.numberinvestigator.com/phone ... -5727.html

Above links shows the location in chicago most likely rana's usa office or home!

(773) 616-5727 to reach Dr. Rana Email: immigration@ameritech.net Images Kijiji: Looking for Trained Immigration Paralegal View larger... from Kijiji ...
payscale.simplyhired.com/a/jobs/list/q-Immigration+Paralegal+-

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 15 Nov 2009 23:00

http://frontpagemag.com/2009/11/02/al-q ... hen-brown/

It was all just a joke.

Humour will be the legal defense in the future trial for a Chicago man arrested last week on suspicion of planning terrorist attacks in Denmark and India. The lawyer for Tahawwur Hussain Rana, 48, a Canadian national originally from Pakistan, claims his client thought the terrorist plot was all just a lark and that he was fooled by his friend and co-accused David Coleman Headley, 49.

It is all joke guys... Our Paki man has PhD in terrorism errrr.... Humorology.

Just leave him alone...

also:

Another world headline-grabbing attack involving 313 Brigade was the Marriott Hotel bombing in Islamabad in September, 2008. Pakistani authorities believe al Qaeda sponsored the attack, which was carried out by Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and Harkatul Jihad al-Islami. The failed plot in 2006 to blow up airliners bound for the United States from Britain was also another terrorist operation involving the brigade.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 15 Nov 2009 23:06

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/333 ... -rana.html
Pak diplomat in Chicago knew Headley, Rana: FBI

Pakistan’s Consul General in Chicago personally knew both David Coleman Headley and Tahawwur Hussain Rana, nabbed by the FBI for planning to carry out a major terror attack in India at the behest of the Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT), the US authorities have claimed.

The FBI in its revised charge sheet filed before a Chicago court said the Consul General of Pakistan in Chicago personally knew both Rana and Headley alias ‘Daood Gilani’, as all three of them were from the same high school.

According to the website of the Pakistan Embassy here, Dr Aman Rashid is the Consul General in Chicago.

“On or about September 25, 2009, Rana spoke by telephone with the Consul General at the Pakistani Consulate in Chicago in an effort to obtain a five-year visa for Headley to travel to Pakistan. It is clear from the email traffic unrelated to terrorist plotting that the Consul General knows Rana and Headley personally as the three attended the same high school,” the FBI claimed.

Lets get the info on the Consul General terrorist Aman Rashid too.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 15 Nov 2009 23:37

Yes, the more one digs into this case, the more interesting things get.

The World Wide Immigration name was new to me - news reports had focused on First World Immigration. The former is said to be owned by an attorney. Their website makes no mention of Rana at all, and yet clearly there is/was a link. The disappearance of the link in that advertisement (see page three, this thread) is essentially an admission of guilt. As to what they are guilty of, I'd have to guess more than one thing, but time will tell.

In the meantime, the FBI is apparently making progress, and the prosecutor has now asked for more time before filing charges - the request for time came complete with new evidence that will be kept secret for now. From the latest court filing, 13 November 2009:

3. On October 18, 2009, federal agents executed four search warrants at four separate locations, and, among other items of evidence, seized a number of computers. Agents are diligently examining the evidence, including that contained in the seized computers. Details concerning the investigation and the volume and types of evidence recovered during this investigation are stated in the Attachment hereto, which the government respectfully requests be placed under seal. The government is requesting that this Attachment be sealed so as not to compromise the continuing investigation. Additionally, further investigation regarding the full scope of the two defendants’ activities is ongoing and includes gaining assistance from foreign authorities.

enqyoob · Post by **enqyoob** » 16 Nov 2009 00:01

Humor is the legal defense

I can see the Judge

already. For those who haven't read P.G. Wodehouse:

Your Honor, my client was just stretching his leg a little longer because Gilani was pulling it.

Herronor:

Absolutely a looong stretch, say 40 years is what I had in mind too!

My client is a fine humorist, your Honor!

Herronor:

Certainly, Oh yes, a fine! Make it $2,500,000!

There was a case in Seattle circa 2002 where the clinching point of evidence was an air ticket. Evidence of Intent To Visit Pakistan. Found Guilty as charged, of being a terrorist.

BTW, the Chicago connection is very very interesting. Sooner or later someone should check on the connection to the Sterling Associates firm, based in nearby Michigan (name of the city escapes me, but check here for details).

Did u read that Guano Bay Resort is being moved to Chicago? Saves a lot on airline costs I guess, if the jail is brought to the criminals' hometown instead of the other way round.

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 16 Nov 2009 00:53

One thing to watch out for: Is the Pakistani consul who "knew" Headley still in Chicago and on deputation? IF he is, then it speaks volumes about this case... how come a person IDENTIFIED as having suspect links is still allowed to function?

Secondly, how many of us going to a gym meet LeT operatives? Do LeT operatives hang out in gyms, and if so perhaps Mahesh Bhatt should let the FBI know... This whole story "I met him in gym casually" seems so ridiculous... why isnt the media all over it? The silence on this is deafening... can you imagine the uproar if a BJP/SS/MNS/RSS member was caught this way? The media would have had a field day...

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 16 Nov 2009 01:05

Those people who are wondering what is the NIA, which is conducting raids in india in response to this case: Most of this info is from Wikipedia.

National Investigation Agency (NIA) is a new central agency approved by GoI to combat terror in India. This agency is empowered to deal with terror related crimes across states without special permission from the states. The National Investigation Agency Bill 2008 to create the agency was moved in Parliament by Union Home Minister on 16 December 2008

Radha Vinod Raju, Special Director General of Police in Jammu and Kashmir, is the Director General. He was previously involved in several high profile cases like the Rajiv Gandhi Assasination. He has served with the CBI in the past.

Some of its salient features are:

Some of the salient features of NIA are-
*The Bill for constitution of the National Investigation Agency (NIA) to be applicable to whole of India, citizens of India outside India and persons on ships and aircraft registered in India.
*Officers of the NIA to have all powers, privileges and liabilities which the police officers have in connection with investigation of any offence.
*The police officer in charge of a police station on receipt of the report of the offence shall forward it to the state government which in turn will send it to the Centre.
*If the Centre feels the offence is terror related, it shall direct the NIA for investigation.
*Provision for transfer of investigation and trial of offences to state government with Centre's prior approval.
*NIA may investigate other offences connected with terror-related offences.
*A state government shall extend all assistance to NIA for investigation of terror-related offences.
*Provisions of the Act with regard to investigation shall not affect powers of the state government to investigate and prosecute any terror crime or other offences.
*The Centre shall constitute special courts for trial of terror-related offences.
*Special Courts may sit at any place for any of its proceedings.
*For speedy and fair trial, the Supreme Court may transfer any case pending with the special court to another special court in the same state or any other state, and the High Court may transfer such cases to any other special court within the state.
*Offences punishable with imprisonment for less than three years may be tried summarily.
*Bill for federal agency tabled in Lok Sabha
*Special court to have all powers of the court of sessions under CrPC for trial of any offence under the Act.

{Here is where it gets interesting}
*Proceedings to be held 'in camera' if special court deems it necessary.
*Trial to be held on day-to-day basis on all working days and to have precedence over the trial of other offences.
*State governments empowered to constitute one or more special courts.
*No appeal shall be entertained after the expiry of 90 days. Highlights of Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Amendment Bill, 2008.

{Paklurkers: Here is where it gets really really interesting}
*Use of bombs, dynamite, poisons or noxious gases, biological radioactive nuclear substances are terror act.
*Aiding, abetting or committing a terrorist act shall be punishable with imprisonment up to ten years.
*Funding terror activities, organising training camps and recruiting persons for committing terror acts shall be punishable with at least five years' imprisonment.
*Detention of accused up to 180 days if investigation not completed.
*No bail shall be granted if accused is not an Indian citizen and has entered the country unauthorisedly.
*No accused, if in custody, to be released on bail or on his own bond.
*Court shall presume, unless contrary is shown, that accused has committed offence.

enqyoob · Post by **enqyoob** » 16 Nov 2009 01:28

I don't believe this ( I mean, who the heck wrote this "law"? )

*Aiding, abetting or committing a terrorist act shall be punishable with imprisonment up to ten years. {Hello? not 500,000 years? Why?}
*Funding terror activities, organising training camps and recruiting persons for committing terror acts shall be punishable with at least five years' imprisonment.
*Detention of accused up to 180 days if investigation not completed.
*No bail shall be granted if accused is not an Indian citizen and has entered the country unauthorisedly.
*No accused, if in custody, to be released on bail or on his own bond.
*Court shall presume, unless contrary is shown, that accused has committed offence.

Did these bozos ever hear of a thing called "Constitution"? IOW, first time this NIA actually "arrests" someone, how tough is it for a good lawyer to get the whole thing declared unconstitutional and have the case thrown out and the paki walk free? Of course he may be in condition to walk, but..

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 16 Nov 2009 03:58

Those were the two thing that struck me the most.

No death penalty for a terrorist? Not even life (13 years of being sarkari mehmaan)? If kasab were caught today, he would have sarkari biriyani and zam zam cola for 10 years and then get out with a loud burp.

Presumed guilty until proven innocent !

Wait till an election comes around, politicians will suddenly realize virtue and remember the constitution, funnily this is the congress which made this into law, BJP did the same with POTA and the congress usurped everything to demonize it because of just this provision.

That line will have arundirty crying draconian all the way to pindi.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Nov 2009 04:14

What are the antecedents of outfits like Amantel and Raza.com which seem to proliferate and offer telecom services to India and the neighborhood? How do we know these are not ISI fronts?

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 16 Nov 2009 04:27

Delhi not in hurry to give clean chit

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1091116/j ... 745735.jsp

enqyoob · Post by **enqyoob** » 16 Nov 2009 05:03

These quaint British terms in the desi media are really funny. I wonder what is the going rate for a "clean chit", and why it is the government and not courts that decide it. IOW, the presumption is that the GOVERNMENT decides whether someone is "clean" or "dirty". Who the heck appointed them Gawds to do that? Someone should sue the langotis off the "Delhi" that refuses to "issue clean chits" without proof of guilt, and then demand investigation of any babu who DOES issue a "clean chit" without thorough investigation.

We see clearly the utter confusion, pompous idiocy and lack of due process that cause Indian officials to be

out when they go ask for extradition etc. in other countries. This is what happened, apparently, in Argentina with Quattrochi, and it happened in the UQ with many terrorists. It's not that those places are so superior, but in any place where a well-paid ambu-chaser gets the opportunity to state a case before a non-corrupt, competent judge, the Indian Prosecutorial Competence has as much chance of survival as a virgin goat in a Pakistan Generals' Mess. They can show in seconds by the Indian Constitution that "Delhi" did not follow the Constitution. The judge's hands are tied.

Let's see again: How many terrorists have actually been hanged after trial, conviction etc. in India since 1965?

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 16 Nov 2009 05:34

I suspect the answer will be None.

But the netas and babus get together and the mafiose dons who wine and dine them, wine and dine them a little more and the dons get scot free.

wrt quattorochi, as per Indian law he did accept commissions, and was therefor guilty prima facie, it is a different matter that the government of the day deliberately scuttled the framing of charges.
I am sure some favored CBI guys were sent to Argentina on a junket at sarkari kharch of course, and told to enjoy the beaches and file a full report on the baywatching they did. They were supposed to ensure that OQ was NOT extradited to India, that they did.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 16 Nov 2009 05:54

ramana wrote:What are the antecedents of outfits like Amantel and Raza.com which seem to proliferate and offer telecom services to India and the neighborhood? How do we know these are not ISI fronts?

I am sure mos of these are ISI terror fronts. One more thing.. Imagine Rana's immigration company - They would have the copies of passports of thousands of Indians which they will use to get illegal visas for terrorists to commit terror all over the world. I hope FBI, NIA are looking into that angle. Imagine all innocent people who came for jobs to these guys and will be implicated in all kinds of crimes.

Johann · Post by **Johann** » 16 Nov 2009 05:57

N,

Well said.

I've said this many times to many people, but India's *strongest* weapon against terrorism is to have an independent, competitive and well funded prosecution service that has a say in how investigative bodies collect and handle evidence.

India produces a lot of good lawyers every year, but there's very little to attract them to government service. Its quite a contrast to the US and UK. In the US in particular being a district attorney is a major stepping stone to a political career. When combined with judges that dont accept nonsense the result is that legal concerns drive how terrorism cases are investigated and prosecuted.

Its not enough to get someone arrested, or even sentenced - cases have to stand up to the full legal appeals process.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Nov 2009 06:04

In India too the Public Prosecutor job is equally prestigious one.

enqyoob · Post by **enqyoob** » 16 Nov 2009 06:53

The problem is not lack of prestige: the problem is the culture of sloppiness, born of complacency.

This is one of the huge drawbacks of the verdict-by-judge system - not that I greatly admire the juries of the US. The judges and the lawyers, esp. the prosecutors, form a privileged class.

On the other hand, the police force is run by a bunch of macho bullies for the most part (YES, there are many dedicated and humble public servants there...), and their idea of guilt or innocence is based on all sorts of superstitions and legends.

So a good, professional, smart attorney can win every time on appeal, or bring in the Human Rights ppl to scare the judges. They can easily show that the investigation was sloppy, the suspect's human rights were grossly abused, his/her relatives and friends were abused/harassed, the trial was delayed unduly, the prosecutor was asleep on the job, and the judge was a blithering idiot. Faced with that, the Appeals courts have no choice but to release the suspect, and the trail is long gone cold to find the real crooks.

It IS mostly sheer laziness, ignorance, arrogance and incompetence, but the public assumes it is corruption, which in turn makes the incompetent public servants get on the high horse of Dedication... and the merry-go-round goes round and round.

One gets tired of continually defending the indefensible. This case is no different. How come they were so incompetent that they came all the way to the US and were unable to get to talk to the suspects? Why were these protocols not long-since settled between the Babus in Dilli, the Indian Embassy in DupleeCity, the Indian Consul in Chicago and the US Foggy Bottom, Fun Boys Institute etc etc? Let me guess.....

The point is, if Barney Fife and the Keystone Kops were shown in India, they would think these were supercops compared to the prevailing standards...

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 16 Nov 2009 08:24

The laziness and allround incompetence that you describe is the result of corruption and lack of punitive measures in the sarkari system.

There is intelligence at a certain level, hidden amongst all the sloth. It can speed up the wheels or put a cog in the process depending on 'ghoos' money or threat to 'jaan aur maal' or 'naukari chakri'.

Is the gilani chap on remand? I think a guy can be questioned when he is on remand, with the lair-lair present.

I wonder if the news report is incorrect, that if the Raa agints did interrogate him or saw the Funny Boys do so (Because of the fear of the legal system, presence of a defense lair from day 1, funny boys saying "Pardner, this aint the way things git done around 'ere, ya gotta go by the rooles, we know the rooles, so only we git to go into the room, you can watch from that window there")

Compare with kasab - a few months after all the interrogation was done, there was a search going on in full media glare for a lawyer for him. In the interim everyone from funny boys to bollywood B grade film makers had interviewed him.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 16 Nov 2009 08:32

ramana wrote:In India too the Public Prosecutor job is equally prestigious one.

But poorly paid, with unrealistic GOI pay scales, no?

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 16 Nov 2009 08:38

Gagan wrote:The laziness and allround incompetence that you describe is the result of corruption and lack of punitive measures in the sarkari system.

There is intelligence at a certain level, hidden amongst all the sloth. It can speed up the wheels or put a cog in the process depending on 'ghoos' money or threat to 'jaan aur maal' or 'naukari chakri'.

Is the gilani chap on remand? I think a guy can be questioned when he is on remand, with the lair-lair present.

I wonder if the news report is incorrect, that if the Raa agints did interrogate him or saw the Funny Boys do so (Because of the fear of the legal system, presence of a defense lair from day 1, funny boys saying "Pardner, this aint the way things git done around 'ere, ya gotta go by the rooles, we know the rooles, so only we git to go into the room, you can watch from that window there")

Compare with kasab - a few months after all the interrogation was done, there was a search going on in full media glare for a lawyer for him. In the interim everyone from funny boys to bollywood B grade film makers had interviewed him.

They should have known, before they made the trip, that these suspectss had the right to refuse to say anything at all to any investigating agency, least of all to Indian intelligence. And it is not just a right on paper. The latter could hardly expect to land up in Chicago and use whatever interrogation techniques they use on terrorism suspects. It is incredible that they didn't work out, together with the FBI, smarter ways to elicit needed by Indian security people.

Under the Indian system, it is easier to interrogate a suspect, so it was possible to give access to Kasab to the FBI etc., but not the other way round.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 16 Nov 2009 08:39

Hey I am not blaming the americans, they have a system in place and they follow it when there is not undue reasons to get around the system. In this instance I believe that the US and India are cooperating in all seriousness, this issue is very dangerous for the US also - to have one of the 26/11 planners living and doing his job in the US! He could easily be planning a similar operation on a US city for all they knew.

KV Rao wrote:
ramana wrote:In India too the Public Prosecutor job is equally prestigious one.
But poorly paid, with unrealistic GOI pay scales, no?

Have you seen the 6th pay commission pay scales? The must be making a cool ~ Rs 80-90,000/- as pay. (Rest of the money comes from elsewhere)

The public prosecutor's job in India is a much sought after one. Think of the army of lawyers that graduate and join the field each year. Most of the lawyers are unemployed, engage in other profession after a few frustrated years, or act as apprentices of successful lawyers indefenitely.

A Public prosecutor makes a lot of moolah, is very well connected with the police and the judges, and is the center of attention of the media wallahs often.

samuel · Post by **samuel** » 16 Nov 2009 08:45

Would people here be really that surprised if there were a few Pakistani agents resident, visiting or traveling in every city in India?
I find that hard to believe.

I mean it's great that NIA is tarting up and looking busy trailing gilani and co. but thinking of this guy as they guy responsible for all our unsolved mysteries, I don't know. Is that possible?

S

enqyoob · Post by **enqyoob** » 16 Nov 2009 09:42

My take on all the Red Corner Alerts etc. is that they have just realized that they have only been looking for names of "foreigners" of "one community" and with "Made In Pakistan" stamped on the passport. Sudden realization that "John Walker" may in fact be Abdul Bin Kabul, and "David G. Lane" may in fact be Dawood Geelani.

Now I wonder how long it will take them to realize that the Saudi Princess Ayesha in the flowing burkha with the nice Size 16 boots is really Imran of Gujranwala, Pakistan Army.

Guys, about the Fun Boys not asking questions without Lairs present, well... dream on. Their style is that they don't charge "persons of interest" until months after they have destroyed them. So they may "pick up" someone for "interviewing", and then "leak" the info that s(he) is a "person of interest" (POI). Equivalent to GOI saying "we are not giving Clean Chit yet onlee". Then they follow the person 24 hours a day, ransack his home and office, ride in with all these fleets of black vans, take away most of the stuff in boxes with the TV crews alerted to the raids, etc. etc. Meanwhile they bark at the POI and try to browbeat him/her.

Until formally arrested, there is no "Miranda Rights" statement. Before that, they will explain to the POI that refusal to answer questions brings additional charges, etc. etc.

You guys should read the trial transcripts of the two desi Darwin Winners from New York. On 9/11/2001, they were to board a plane, and they were moving their company from NYC to Texas to escape the loan sharks out looking for them in NYC. With all the terror attacks, etc., they decided to take the train instead. When they got off the train, the police detained them because they were "South Asian" and coming from NYC. Box-cutters were found in their baggage (along with staplers, pens, pencils, etc., I am sure - because they were moving their business).

Anyway, 2 or 3 years later they were freed, and the Judge apologized in deep shame about how the GOTUS had treated them. Forced to sit out in the cold in winter without adequate clothing, shut up in isolation cells, not allowed to sleep for days........ etc. etc.

No charges filed. No lawyer to help. No one knew where they were.

And the point is, they were completely, totally innocent.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 16 Nov 2009 09:53

Suggestion for this thread:

Can we keep this thread to news/analysis about Gilani/Rana and their associates and other Paki owned companies instead of discussing Indian justice system?

Patni · Post by **Patni** » 16 Nov 2009 11:21

Headley-Rana terror plot: Woman's role suspected

nvestigations into the visits of the two terror suspects have led sleuths to know about the presence of a woman who claims to be the wife of the latter and had visited India along with him, official sources said here today.

Samraz Rana, a Canadian national born in Bahawalpur of Pakistan, had accompanied Rana to Kochi on November 16, 2008.

Patni · Post by **Patni** » 16 Nov 2009 11:34

Rana was in Mumbai before 26/11 attacks

Rana was helped by a local named Sameer. Local intelligence has records of Sameer which show that he had terror links. Interestingly, Rana's wife Samraj Akhtar also accompanied him during the visit.

Patni · Post by **Patni** » 16 Nov 2009 12:06

More leads in Headley-Rana's Dhaka link

Intelligence agencies on Monday (November 16) identified Shameer, the Keralite, who has helped LeT operatives Tahawwur Rana, who was arrested along with Headley in Chicago for alleged involvement in terror activities. According to agencies, Shameer is an immigration specialist, who could have helped Rana in his recruitment drive.

However, intelligence sources said that Shameer was also in touch with Sheikh Abdul Rahman Saeed, the Pakistan-based LeT commander, who was in touch with Headley and Rana. This comes after sources added that investigating agencies recovered some details of a conversation between Shameer and Saeed.

From an earlier linked report http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 67#p771667:
" Police in Bangladesh have arrested three LeT operatives on charges of plotting to bomb the High Commission of India in Dhaka. The three men, Mufti Harun Izhar, Shahidul Islam and Saiful Amin were held in Chittagong, after India’s intelligence services intercepted phone conversations linking them to LeT commanders in Pakistan."

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 67#p771367 " The physical execution of the attack, the sources said, was assigned to Lahore-based Sheikh Abdul Rehman Saeed, the long-standing commander of the Lashkar networks in Bangladesh that have often been used as staging posts for strikes inside India.

Saeed is believed to have been in close contact with Sajid Mir, the Lashkar’s overall commander for transcontinental operations —and Headley’s controller."

Patni · Post by **Patni** » 16 Nov 2009 12:16

Travel agency manages fake passport, visa

A travel agency helped three Pakistani Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) leaders who came here with a mission to attack the US embassy and Indian High Commission in Dhaka get fake Bangladeshi passports, said detective branch officials.
DB officials suspect that the travel agency has links with militant organisations as it assisted the LeT men obtain passports and hajj visas.

Requesting anonymity, a senior DB official involved in the investigation said, "We suspect that there are one or two travel agencies which work for militant outfits.

"Hajj visas were managed so that soon after carrying out the mission the men could leave the country as pilgrims," said the DB official, adding that, "Though they failed to make the attack before hajj, their mission is still on."

He said, "We are waiting to take action against the travel agency. But first, we are trying to net the Pakistani nationals and their Bangladeshi cohorts who are still at large."

Another senior DB official said, "We have identified some Bangladeshi people, including Huji men, involved in the attack-attempt. The LeT men came to Dhaka to directly instruct the militants here on how to carry out the operation.

Assistant Commissioner (AC) of DB Sanwar Hossain, who led the drive to arrest Mufti Harun and his associates Shahidul Alam and Al Amin alias Saiful in connection with plotting the attack, said DB has specific information and evidence that the suspects, including the foreigners, frequently visit Jama'atul Ulum Madrasa at Lalkhan Bazar in Chittagong.

Mufti Harun is a son of Islami Oikya Jote (IOJ) faction chief Mufti Izaharul Islam Chowdhury who established the madrasa on a hilltop.

Harun and his two associates are now on a fresh three-day remand.

Talking to The Daily Star, AC Sanwar Hossain said, "We suspect that the LeT leaders did not come to Bangladesh directly from Pakistan. They came via Dubai and London to dodge the intelligence personnel."

AC Sanwar also said they have evidence against Harun having close link with another Pakistani LeT leader Saiyeed and that he visited at least four Middle East countries.

DB also found evidence of money transaction in the account of Faizur Rahman, younger brother of detained Harun.

Mufti Harun and his two associates were arrested on November 4 following the arrests of David Coleman Headley alias Gilani Daud, an Indian born US citizen, and Tahawur Hussain Rana, a Pakistan born Canadian citizen, on October 3 in Chicago and Abdur Rahman Saiyeed in Pakistan last week.

The US authorities have charged them with plotting terror attacks abroad, including on a Danish newspaper that published cartoons of Prophet Mohammad (Pbuh) in 2005.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 16 Nov 2009 13:07

Patni wrote:Travel agency manages fake passport, visa

Mufti Harun and his two associates were arrested on November 4 following the arrests of David Coleman Headley alias Gilani Daud, an Indian born US citizen,

Note that The Daily Star claims that David Headley is Indian born, instead of Paki. Article is written by one Kailash Sarkar.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 16 Nov 2009 13:43

ArmenT wrote:Note that The Daily Star claims that David Headley is Indian born, instead of Paki. Article is written by one Kailash Sarkar.

May be his parents migrated to TSP after he was born In India and when they realized that his full potential can bloom only in the enabling environment offered by TSP. He probably had the halo as a baby or a kid perhaps.

Patni · Post by **Patni** » 16 Nov 2009 17:00

Headley case: Search ops in five locations in Mumbai

The NIA also seized documents from a chawl in Motilal Nagar, Goregaon, where Fahim Ansari, who allegedly prepared maps for the 26/11 attackers, lived.

The premises in Lokhandwala, Pali Hill and Khar belong to three individuals with suspected Bollywood links, with whom Headley had contact.

The NIA will question filmmaker Mahesh Bhatt’s son Rahul, sources said. The Centre pn Sunday said no one had been given a clean chit in the case

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 16 Nov 2009 18:59

Good summary here:
Decoding the Headley-Rana case (by Wilson John) : http://news.rediff.com/column/2009/nov/ ... a-case.htm

Apparently Hafeez Saeed is directly implicated, and was giving terror instructions on phone to the people operating from Bangladesh.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 16 Nov 2009 20:33

Pranav wrote:Good summary here:
Decoding the Headley-Rana case (by Wilson John) : http://news.rediff.com/column/2009/nov/ ... a-case.htm

Apparently Hafeez Saeed is directly implicated, and was giving terror instructions on phone to the people operating from Bangladesh.

Lashkar operations in Bangladesh, incidentally, draw large funding from some top businessmen dealing in pharmaceuticals.

Check this out.. Who could be that scum?

R Vaidya · Post by **R Vaidya** » 16 Nov 2009 21:03

Who is this Dude in our consulate in Chicago?

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/viola ... na/542180/

Violation of rules by Indian Consulate in US in visa for Rana?
Tags : Tahawwur Rana, US, India
Posted: Monday , Nov 16, 2009 at 1656 hrs
New Delhi:

Generosity of the Indian Consulate in Chicago appears to have facilitated the entry into India of Tahawwur Rana, arrested by the FBI in connection with a terror plot against India.
Copies of visas issued to Pakistani-Canadian Rana and a woman Samraz Rana Akhthar, who he claimed to be his wife, show that both were issued multiple entry visas by the Indian Consulate in October 2008.
Both the visas were issued "under the discretion of the Consul General" in apparent violation of rules under which clearance of Ministry of Home Affairs is required for any person born in Pakistan. Rana is born in Chichawatni and woman is born Bahawalpur. Both the places are in Pakistan's Punjab province.
The two were exempted even from registering with the police if their stay did not exceed 180 days. Rana was given a year-long business visa and Samraz was here on a tourist visa valid for five years. Both of them arrived at Mumbai airport on November 12 last year after which they travelled to Kochi in Kerala on November16.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 16 Nov 2009 22:22

Headley, Rana were in Pakistan during 26/11 : http://www.ndtv.com/news/india/headley_ ... g_2611.php

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 16 Nov 2009 22:32

http://chicago.indianconsulate.com/1Abo ... neral.html

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 16 Nov 2009 23:52

This is how terrorists operate. They will use cultural proximity to make friendship. Most Paki sympathizers, Indian culture or Hindu hating crowd love these Pakis. Look at Butts (Mahesh/Pooja/Rahul). Look at out SAJA crowd. Look at our press. Some are gullible. Some think that all the cause of India's problems is right-wing not Paki terrorists. They start to believe in their own bull sh1t. They start opposing anything right-wing did to please anti-national crowd and a section of aggressive Indian minorities. That is why they keep ignoring all the evidence of Chinese proliferation, Pakistani bomb and their intent to nuclear bomb us 1990 and blame it all on right-wing for bomb. Their hatred towards right-wing or their attitude to please minority vote banks makes them help Pakis even if it hurts India. No matter what evidence you present, they ignore it and blame it on right-wing or 2002 riots. They choose to close their eyes even if they see all the evidence of Rana or Gilani. They can't connect dots or don't want to.

{Er... weren't you the one who was concerned about extraneous content in this thread?}

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 17 Nov 2009 01:22

vijayk wrote:

{Er... weren't you the one who was concerned about extraneous content in this thread?}

Yep. My bad.