The Curious Case of Daood Gilani alias David Headley & co

[sum]

It is not so hard to subvert a 'legal process'. The US continues to run the Guantanamo bay imprisonment centre. India need not buy that snakeoil. Where there is political will there will be a way.

Should the PMO make this an agenda an extradition is possible.

Boss, seeing the way our govt bends over backwards in front of anythign even remotely American and the "spine" it has shown so far i tackling terrorists, do you even keep 1% of a chance of any extradition happening or being requested for seriously by GoI?

[vasu_ray]

Chidu should pull up TSP for not giving information about the 2 arrested in US and about the 5 or more arrested in TSP, they have been silent so far, isn't it the common enemy, the terrorists ploy that saved their ass last time

[ramana]

Hi guys, instead of posting ianane two liners can you look for the info comng out and atleast posts that in this thread? There is flood of info coming in and all we ahve is silly to and fro betweeen newbies.

If all you want is about US and its co-operation or lack of go to other threads. Thanks, ramana

[vera_k]

Headley revelations may embarass Mumbai police

Home Minister Palaniappan Chidambaram is displeased with the Mumbai police's investigation skills, according to a senior source in the Union home ministry.

The ministry believes the newly-formed National Investigation Agency will have to re-investigate the 26/11 case if the David Headley-Tahawwur Rana probe produces unexpected links with the Mumbai terror attacks. This will be a serious matter and hit the Mumbai police's credibility.

[ramana]

Headley revelations may embarass Mumbai police

Home Minister Palaniappan Chidambaram is displeased with the Mumbai police's investigation skills, according to a senior source in the Union home ministry.

The ministry believes the newly-formed National Investigation Agency will have to re-investigate the 26/11 case if the David Headley-Tahawwur Rana probe produces unexpected links with the Mumbai terror attacks. This will be a serious matter and hit the Mumbai police's credibility.

Not really. All these foreigners entering India is an IB matter. Local police dont have insigth into this. The visas were issued to these duo by MEA bypassing MHA guidleines. These duo stayed all over India other than Mumbai: Kerala, Delhi etc. Realistically these are not in Mumbai police jurisdiction.

not to mention the intle about terrorsit attack was already known and the NSA didnt do much except to send circulars and attend Carnatic music concerts/katcheri.

Also there are nno winners in blame game.

Old Chinese saying "When you point finger, three fingers of your hand are pointed at yourself!"

I add the thumb is pointed upwards to god or chance!

[Jitendra]

I don't think the two guys can be extradited. they are US / Canadian citizen and have crimes registered in their countries. All NIA can hope for is access.

[Ananya]

{Please take a moment to read advice from ramana above. Don't leave your thinking to your fingers. Thanks}

[Jarita]

More Bollywood support for Terrorists. Does Bollywood even cater to Indian audiences anymore. They are testing waters in a big way with this movie

Kurbaan
Saif and Bebo now have an entire movie for themselves, and it looks like they're aiming high. Industry buzz claims the movie revolves around a plot similar to the recent New York, about individuals being wrongfully targeted by the stringent post-9/11 security measures.
However, Saif Ali Khan has defended his new movie and has said that Kurbaan, despite the terror link, is a fresh new plot.
Avantika (Kareena Kapoor) is happily married to Ehsaan Khan (Saif) and the couple now plan to make New York their abode. They soon move into the Big Apple and life looks good for the two.

However, trouble soon stirs in the neighbourhood as one of their neighbours arrive home one day to warn Avantika - that she's in grave danger.

Bebo's life spirals out of control as she realises, nothing is what it seems!

[Rishi]

More Bollywood support for Terrorists. Does Bollywood even cater to Indian audiences anymore. They are testing waters in a big way with this movie

Kurbaan
Saif and Bebo now have an entire movie for themselves, and it looks like they're aiming high. Industry buzz claims the movie revolves around a plot similar to the recent New York, about individuals being wrongfully targeted by the stringent post-9/11 security measures.
However, Saif Ali Khan has defended his new movie and has said that Kurbaan, despite the terror link, is a fresh new plot.
Avantika (Kareena Kapoor) is happily married to Ehsaan Khan (Saif) and the couple now plan to make New York their abode. They soon move into the Big Apple and life looks good for the two.

However, trouble soon stirs in the neighbourhood as one of their neighbours arrive home one day to warn Avantika - that she's in grave danger.

Bebo's life spirals out of chttp://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/posting.php?mode=quote&f=1&p=776433#ontrol as she realises, nothing is what it seems!

http://www.thevigilidiot.com/2009/11/21/kurbaan/

See the movie in above link in 5 min

Sorry for the OT, now back to regular programming

[Raju]

It now emerges that Rana worked in the Pakistan Army during the period he was married. This was disclosed by his relative in Chicago.

[Patni]

^^ well you can never be sure of DDM! they contradict themself...
'Rana joined Pak Army after his education'

21 Nov 2009, 1006 hrs IST
Even as Islamabad remains mum on the Headley-Rana's Pakistan link, LeT operative Tahawwur Rana's uncle Rana Abdul Latif confirmed that the terror suspect finished his education and joined the Pakistani Army. Rana's uncle also claimed that he got married to a doctor and after he quit the Army, he chose Chicago to settle where he set up a Halal butcher's shop.

Minister of State for Information Samsam Bukhari had earlier admitted Islamabad was awaiting a formal request from Washington to act on uncovering the Lashkar duo's terror trail in Pakistan. He had said, "No information on Headley & Rana. Officially the US has not given us information on the trial. So we can't comment or act on the case till we get information."

TIMES NOW also tracked down the childhood home of David Coleman Headley's partner and Lashkar operative Tahawwur Hussain Rana in Pakistan. Rana's home Chechawatni is located about 215 kilometers from Westside of Lahore and was built in 1923. Before partition there was majority population from Hindus. Rana Tahawwur Hussains' father Rana Wali Muhammad was a headmaster in the government Ray Niaz high school for 15 years.

The home is in 58W Housing Colony in Chechawatni where Rana lived with his father and two sons. Rana studied here till he joined the Hassan Abdal Cadet College. After his graduation, he left Pakistan. The family is now entirely out of Pakistan.

[Patni]

Rana keeps Headley's money: Relative

Times Now 20 November 2009, 01:08pm IST

Akthar, however, maintained that he never knew of Headley's personal life but that Rana was being treated unjustly.

"I have seen Headley once or twice. Rana told me they studied together. They were close friends. They studied together in school. He never talked of his private life. After a while Headley had some money, and he gave it to Rana. Rana's wife has the account of all of this. Whenever Headley wanted tickets or anything, we gave him his own money. What’s wrong with that?" said Akhtar.

He was clearly distraught by the way Rana and his family was being implicated in terrorist crimes, and said Rana was being falsely implicated. "The police haven't found anything by raiding his slaughter house. What bigger injustice is there than to frame an innocent man. We have done nothing wrong. By the massive operation they launched they are convinced that Rana is guilty. But they have no proof," he said.

He said he wanted to tell the world that the allegations are absolutely false. "If any one thinks otherwise, they should come to me. They can hang me if I'm wrong. Show me evidence, find proof that we have done something wrong," he said.

Akhtar maintained that Rana’s friendship with Headley was innocent "It is being blown out of proportion. Rana always worked for the poor. He spent his money for the betterment of his community. I have never seen or heard anything bad against him," he told TIMES NOW.

On being asked why Rana visited India, Akhtar claimed that there had been a death in Rana’s wife’s family and that he took her to India to seek advice. "My wife goes there, so do I. India is our home. We were born there. None of us will say anything against it," said Akhtar.

Curious and thats first I am reading about Rana's family having Indian connections? How closely this Indian born Akhtar is related with rana?

[Rangudu]

I wish the reporters are more professional. The entire family is NOT out of TSP according to other reports. Two of his brothers are serving Brigadiers - so how can the entire family be outside TSP?

[Patni]

Arrests in Chicago drive home global nature of terrorism threat

By Peter Slevin and Spencer S. Hsu
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, November 20, 2009
CHICAGO -- David C. Headley, a peripatetic Chicagoan accused of scouting potential terrorism targets in India and plotting to kill two Danish journalists, was not always David C. Headley.

The case "stands our counterterrorism approach on its head," said Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.), chairman of a Homeland Security subcommittee on intelligence. "We've been looking for people who want to attack us, whether foreign or U.S. persons, in the United States. We haven't really been looking at U.S. persons who want to attack other countries."

Several American officials saw an echo of the case against Najibullah Zazi, a Denver airport shuttle driver accused in September of training with al-Qaeda in Pakistan and plotting a backpack bombing in New York.

A U.S. law enforcement official said investigators are tracking several suspects in the Zazi case, mostly in the United States. A counterterrorism official said the investigation into Headley's domestic contacts remains open and active.
Headley, 49, and Rana, 48, met as students in a military school in the Pakistani town of Hasan Abdal. Decades later on Chicago's far North Side, Rana is considered a well-connected businessman on Devon Avenue, a bustling corridor crowded with shops owned by residents of Pakistani and Indian heritage.

Before his October arrest, Rana ran his businesses, including a rural Illinois farm that slaughters lambs and goats according to Islamic law, from a cluttered storefront on Devon called First World Immigration Services. He provided space to Raymond J. Sanders, an American immigration lawyer.

"He's an excellent and all-around gentleman who has many business interests," said Sanders, who described Rana as a non-practicing medical doctor "very active in the community." He said Rana focused on clients seeking immigration status in Canada.

Headley appeared in the office sporadically, according to Sanders.

"He came in, talked to people, talked to Dr. Rana, worked on the computer a little bit and didn't say a lot," Sanders said. "He bounced in and out and did his business with Rana."

Well he marries a Doc wife and assumes the title himself?

[Mahendra]

Tahawwur Rana's Ahemdabad trip

[Mahendra]

Following the David Headley trail

[sum]

Even as Islamabad remains mum on the Headley-Rana's Pakistan link, LeT operative Tahawwur Rana's uncle Rana Abdul Latif confirmed that the terror suspect finished his education and joined the Pakistani Army. Rana's uncle also claimed that he got married to a doctor and after he quit the Army, he chose Chicago to settle where he set up a Halal butcher's shop.

So, was he a Non-official cover ISI man in the US?

[Patni]

Rana ran a flourishing immigration business :November 20, 2009 12:32 IST

Rana, who was born and raised in Pakistan, immigrated to Canada [ Images ] in 1997 and obtained Canadian citizenship in June, 2001. He and his wife, Samraz Akhtar Rana, live in Chicago with their two daughters and a son.

The time line shows he must have passed out of that abdal cadet college least 17-18 years before he migrated to Canada!

[Mahendra]

Doosra Daood (Headley)

[enqyoob]

Two (guess which nationality } terrorists arrested in Italy - transferred $229 worth to set up internet account for the terrorists in Mumbai circa 25/11/2008.

Apparently Indian police told the Italians in December 2008. Inspectore Maximo Lazi and C. Lumsi eventually got around after siesta and arrested the Pakis.

Two {Timbuctooan} men were arrested in Italy on Saturday for providing logistical support to terrorists who carried out last year's deadly attacks in India, police said.

They were arrested in the northern Italian city of Brescia, said Stefano Fonzi, head of Italy's Division of General Investigations and Special Operations.

On November 25, 2008, the day before the attacks in Mumbai, the pair allegedly transferred $229 that was used to activate Internet phone lines used by the suspects.

Two others connected with the long-standing money transfer agency in Brescia were also arrested for other illegal activity, Fonzi told CNN. Police are looking for a fifth man.

Italian police started their investigation the following month after being alerted by Indian authorities and the FBI (yeah, yeah! same team that found water on the Moon 6 months after Chandrayaan data were published) that funds had been transferred from Italy, Fonzi said.

*** Or is this part of the Chicago Musical?**********

[SSridhar]

Two (guess which nationality } terrorists arrested in Italy - transferred $229 worth to set up internet account for the terrorists in Mumbai circa 25/11/2008.

Apparently Indian police told the Italians in December 2008. Inspectore Maximo Lazi and C. Lumsi eventually got around after siesta and arrested the Pakis.

It is becoming clearer by the hour. The Americans have learnt from Musharraf. Produce something before an imporatnt state visit. The Headley/Rana case, followed by the arrest of the mafiosi duo in Italy, non-revelation of the names of Member A & Member B in Pakistan are sufficient baits for India without jeopardizing Pakistni connections. Like the arrest of Hafeez Saeed before UN meet and his prompt release thereafter, like the dossier sent by Pakistan to India before Sharm-el-Sheikh and the case being dumped immediately thereafter, nothing much will happen in the Headley/Rana/Italy/Army officers case either.

[Muppalla]

Not really. All these foreigners entering India is an IB matter. Local police dont have insigth into this. The visas were issued to these duo by MEA bypassing MHA guidleines. These duo stayed all over India other than Mumbai: Kerala, Delhi etc. Realistically these are not in Mumbai police jurisdiction.

not to mention the intle about terrorsit attack was already known and the NSA didnt do much except to send circulars and attend Carnatic music concerts/katcheri.

Also there are nno winners in blame game.

Old Chinese saying "When you point finger, three fingers of your hand are pointed at yourself!"

I add the thumb is pointed upwards to god or chance!

Indian laws are little complicated with respect to foreigners in India. A foreigner enters India with a visa from some embassy/consulate. MEA's juridiction ends there. If that person is of Pak/BD origin and clearance from Indian Home Ministry also ends there. Once he enters India, it will be in the juridiction of the state he stays. For example if the visa expired the process is to apply for extension/exit visa from the local Police Commission. The Police Commissoner after verification sends to state Home Minsitry (not central Home) for approval. After the approval from the state government, the police commissioner office stamps extension/exit on the passport. There is no EAM or IB/Home involved here unless they have a communication between state home/police and central home/IB.

Interesting thing is there is a FRRO office everywhere in atleast main cities and where there is more foreigner population. However each FRRO is actually in the respective state government juridiction for all approvals. As things are changing there is clear need for changes. India needs some central agency/department on the lines of Homeland security and Immigration department that are sole authorites on all foreigners entering and leaving India. Legality/illegality of foreigners overstaying, crimes commited in any state also should be transferred to this single agency by the local administration.

At this time it is just real mess of rules. I don't think they expected this much of travel from abroad in India as it was a closed country for decades.

There are substantial number of foreigners at many ashrams where yoga or natural medicine are involved. These ashrams sometimes are not even in the main cities where there is some sort of check. Medical tourism is a huge business in Tier-1 cities and corporate hospitals are all having abundant number of foreigners.

Abduls have a lot of opportunities in India to use the loopholes in the jungle of messy rules and juridictions. Off cource they have beautifully built sleeper cells that are protected by the current ruling political party. There are two state governments that have honestly worked to remove sleeper cells. The first one was Digvijay Singh's Madhya Pradesh and later NaMo's Gujarat. The first one is now a political non-entity and the second one is a punch bag for all and sundry.

[Mahendra]

PM 'assures' Mahesh Bhatt of justice in son Rahul's case

[pgbhat]

An Accused Plotter With Feet in East and West

David Headley as a child, with his mother and younger sister.

Today, Mr. Headley is an Islamic fundamentalist who once liked to get high. He has a traditional Pakistani wife, who lives with their children in Chicago, but also an American girlfriend, a makeup artist in New York, according to a relative and friends. Depending on the setting, he alternates between the name he adopted in the United States, David Headley, and the Urdu one he was given at birth, Daood Gilani. Even his eyes — one brown, the other green — hint that he has roots in two places.

“Some of us are saying that ‘Terrorism’ is the weapon of the cowardly,” Mr. Headley wrote in an e-mail message to his high school classmates last February. “I will say that you may call it barbaric or immoral or cruel, but never cowardly.”

He added, “Courage is, by and large, exclusive to the Muslim Nation.”

Mr. Headley’s e-mail messages, including many that defend beheadings and suicide bombings as heroic, are among the evidence in the government’s case against him and his accused co-conspirator, Tahawwur Hussain Rana, who was born in Pakistan, is a citizen of Canada and runs businesses in Chicago.

The men, who became close friends in a military academy outside Islamabad, were arrested last month in Chicago. They are charged with plotting an attack they labeled the Mickey Mouse Project against Jyllands-Posten, the Danish newspaper whose cartoons had provoked outrage across the Muslim world.

Mr. Rana’s father is a former principal of a high school outside Lahore. One of his brothers is a Pakistani military psychiatrist who has written several books, and another is a journalist at a Canadian political newspaper, The Hill Times.

Trained as a physician, Mr. Rana immigrated to Canada in 1997 and became a citizen a few years later. Then he moved his wife and three children to Chicago, where he opened a travel agency that also provided immigration services on Devon Avenue, which cuts through the heart of the city’s Pakistani community. In 2002, he started a Halal slaughterhouse that butchers goats, sheep and cows according to Islamic religious laws.

“Most people have contradictions in their lives, but they learn to reconcile them,” said William Headley, an uncle who owns a day care center in Nottingham, Pa. “But Daood could never do that. The left side does not speak to the right side. And that’s the problem.”

In 1960, the couple and their infant son, Daood, left the United States bound for England aboard the ship America, and from there went on to Lahore. But the marriage quickly soured, friends said, as Mr. Gilani immersed himself in the traditions of his homeland and his bride refused to submit to them.

After Ms. Headley left Mr. Gilani and her son and a daughter, Syedah, in Pakistan, friends say, the details of her life become lost in a jumble of fact and fiction. Ms. Headley, a red-haired, green-eyed woman, told friends she married an “Afghan prince” but then had to flee Kabul after he was murdered.

She arrived back in Philadelphia, friends said, in the early 1970s, taking different office jobs and dating wealthy suitors until one of them lent her money to buy an old bar. She turned it into the Khyber Pass, decorated with billowing Afghan wedding tents and stocked with exotic beers.

“He has never been alone with, much less had a date with a girl, except the servant girls of his household,” the article said, referring to the teenage Daood Gilani. “But he has just this day found a cricket team to join. And he has just this day, after watching American TV, said to his mother in his soft Urdu-English that she is to him like the Bionic Woman.”

According to family friends, the teenager soon rebelled against his mother’s heavy drinking and multiple sexual relationships by engaging in the same behavior.

“Those were the days when girls, weed and whatever were readily available,” Jay Wilson, who worked at the Khyber Pass, wrote in an e-mail message from England. “Daood was not immune to the pleasures of American adolescence.”

“He would clearly state he had contempt for infidels,” Mr. Lacovara said in a telephone interview from New Mexico. “He kept talking about the return of the 14th century, saying Islam was going to take over the world.”

Earlier this year, Mr. Headley complained about “NATO criminal vermin dropping 22,000 lbs bombs on unsuspecting, unarmed Afghan villagers” or “napalming southeast Asian farmers.” Writing about Pakistan’s chief enemy, he said, “We will retaliate against India.”

[g.sarkar]

An Accused Plotter With Feet in East and West

Most interestingly NYT goes on in this article to state:
"There, the family lived in a small second-floor apartment. Mr. Headley claimed to work for Mr. Rana’s immigration agency. The two men attended the Jame Masjid mosque on Fridays, then stopped at the nearby Zam Zam restaurant to eat and talk politics. Cricket, neighbors said, was their passion."
Had the FBI read the BR regularly, the reference to ZAM ZAM restaurant (where no doubt ZAM ZAM Cola is served) should have made them take a closer look at Mr. Headly.
Gautam

[Suppiah]

More Bollywood support for Terrorists. Does Bollywood even cater to Indian audiences anymore. They are testing waters in a big way with this movie

Kurbaan
Saif and Bebo now have an entire movie for themselves, and it looks like they're aiming high. Industry buzz claims the movie revolves around a plot similar to the recent New York, about individuals being wrongfully targeted by the stringent post-9/11 security measures.
However, Saif Ali Khan has defended his new movie and has said that Kurbaan, despite the terror link, is a fresh new plot.
Avantika (Kareena Kapoor) is happily married to Ehsaan Khan (Saif) and the couple now plan to make New York their abode. They soon move into the Big Apple and life looks good for the two.

However, trouble soon stirs in the neighbourhood as one of their neighbours arrive home one day to warn Avantika - that she's in grave danger.

Bebo's life spirals out of control as she realises, nothing is what it seems!

Can they not keep this sewage within India? Why does every Bollywood have to have a plot that somehow brings London, NY, Melbourne etc., into the picture? GOI should ban Bollywood crap from being shown in India if it has a frame shot overseas. The image of India and Indians suffers.

[Patni]

From the NY Times link posted above:
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 38#p776838

In 1998, Mr. Gilani, then 38, was convicted of conspiring to smuggle heroin into the country from Pakistan. Court records show that after his arrest, he provided so much information about his own involvement with drug trafficking, which stretched back more than a decade, and about his Pakistani suppliers, that he was sentenced to less than two years in jail and later went to Pakistan to conduct undercover surveillance operationsfor the Drug Enforcement Administration.

Does Drug Enforcement Administration have a sharing mechanism with CIA? I think he has been a US spy or least unkil knew about his frequent visits overseas since his jail term! I cant believe he could so easily pass through checks at various airports as a convicted felon that too on International Drug trafficking charge otherwise!

[Patni]

US shares info with India on Headley's ISI links

GENEVA: The US on Saturday disclosed to India new information linking the anti-terror plot hatched by expatriates David Coleman Headley and Tahawuur Rana with some elements in the ISI and said it will reveal the name of a key Pakistani national linked to the Mumbai carnage in a week's time.

The disclosure came when National Security Adviser M.K. Narayanan held talks with CIA chief Leon Panetta in New Delhi on Saturday, reliable sources said.

The latest disclosures nearly coincide with the first anniversary of the Mumbai carnage. Two key suspects in the Headley-Rana case have been arrested by Pakistan, the sources said.

The two officials also discussed finer details of a counter-terror plot that is expected to be signed after Prime Minister Manmohan Singh holds talks with US President Barack Obama in the White House Tuesday.

The counter-terror pact seeks to take existing cooperation in this area between India and the US to a new level by focusing on closer coordination of intelligence agencies and the US sharing the latest surveillance and interdiction technologies with India.

[Patni]

Rahul Bhatt did not train Headley, says Moksh gym management

By IANS
Saturday,21 November 2009, 09:10 hrs
Mumbai: The multimedia house, Pritish Nandy Communications Ltd, said Thursday that Rahul Bhatt, son of eminent filmmaker Mahesh Bhatt did not train Lashkar-e-Taiba suspect David Coleman Headley at its Moksh gym where he was a member.

Headley was a member of Moksh between October 2006 and October 2007 and sometimes came there for a workout, Bobbie Ghosh, chief operating officer of PNCL, said in a statement late Thursday evening.

Rahul Bhatt worked as a trainer at Moksh only between August 2001 and May 2002.

Hence, media reports that Bhatt had trained Headley at Moksh "are incorrect" and "any relationship they may have had or not had is not the knowledge of Moksh and its management", Ghosh said.

He also denied certain media reports that Moksh had terminated the services of its staffer, Vilas Warak.

So it was more lies spread by Bhatts about Rahul just casually bumping into Headley at Gym when he was a trainer there!

[SSridhar]

US probing Pakistani's links to Headley

U.S. investigators have zeroed in on a Pakistani national who is suspected to be a key link between Lashkar-e-Taiba operatives David Coleman Headley and Tahawwur Hussain Rana.

The U.S. also believes that some elements in Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence could be linked to Headley, while agencies in India have been suspecting that the two Lashkar operatives could have been involved in the 2008 Mumbai attacks.

Washington has conveyed to New Delhi that within a week there could be “authentic” information whether they were involved in the 26/11 attacks, sources said.

The Pakistani national, whose identity has been kept secret, is believed to have been in Pakistan at the time of 26/11.

[enqyoob]

Had the FBI read the BR regularly, the reference to ZAM ZAM restaurant (where no doubt ZAM ZAM Cola is served) should have made them take a closer look at Mr. Headly.

While on the subject,

David Headley as a child, with his mother and younger sister.

And who is the woman shown in the picture?

[SSridhar]

Major lapse by the Chicago Consulate in issuing visa: Probe

An internal inquiry has shown that the residential address provided in the visa applications by Rana couple does not exist. Moreover, an immigration service company where Rana claimed to have been employed told the Indian authorities that he was never employed by them nor did they have a branch in Mumbai as stated by him, official sources said today.

Senior Government officials said there was a circular of 2004 under which the visa applications of people of Pakistan, Iran and Bangladesh origin should be referred to Union Home Ministry for clearance. However, the circular gave discretion to ambassadors and consuls general to give visas to such nationals which the Consular General in Chicago had utilised, the sources said.

[BSR Murthy]

So when is the movie coming out? Where does this Headley Chase lead? Who's playing this spy/terrorist?

[Pranav]

Police sources claim a lawyer-turned-politician has been calling up senior officers every day and asking them to not pressure Rahul.

Who is this Politician ?

Sounds like Ram Jethmalani

Jethmalani's latest meltdown in front of the Saudi Ambassador could be an effort to compensate. Not that it will do much good.

[Atri]

I have a question.. may be a naive one.. Mumbaikars, please answer..

David headley dude rented a house on wardon road.. The gym is on wardon road...Mahesh Bhatt lives in Juhu.. If Rahul bhatt stays in juhu/andheri as well, why the phuck he went to join a wardon road gym?

Is there any info available on where is rahul's residence?

[Tanaji]

Maybe he wanted a gym close to his house?

Juhu and Warden road are too far apart... Warden road is/was true blue blood area residences... Juhu was comparatively nouveau riche, film stars hangout

[Atri]

Maybe he wanted a gym close to his house?

Juhu and Warden road are too far apart... Warden road is/was true blue blood area residences... Juhu was comparatively nouveau riche, film stars hangout

That's exactly my question is.. AFAIK, most of the filmy guys live on western suburbs - Bandra onwards.. Only actors (most of them) who lived in city were Marathi stage actors (who were too poor to have a home in warden road )

Warden road is for true rich people who are the economic powerhouses of India.. hence I am asking, do we know where Rahul stayed? filmy guys tend to buy property in suburbs (usually). So even if he was not living with his parents, the trend goes that the star kids stay in suburbs as well..

If this is the case, why then join a warden road gym? its at least hour's drive in peak-hour from Juhu to Warden road.. OTOH, if he lived in warden road, do we know that for sure?

[BSR Murthy]

Rahul Bhatt apparently is an employed trainer at the gym.

[sreeji]

Unbelievable! Just saw Butts actually giving advice and comforting the 26/11 survivors and kin of dead policemen in a talk show on NDTV hosted by B Dutt.

[ArmenT]

Rahul Bhatt apparently is an employed trainer at the gym.

According to the owners of the gym, he only worked as a trainer there from August 2001 to May 2002. See Patni's post above for the details.