People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby Hari Seldon » 16 Dec 2009 19:09

Can PRC sustain its cost advantage in years to come ?
Interview with Prof. Raef Lawson, Professor-in-Residence, and Vice President of Research, IMA (Institute of Management Accountants, US)


Well, will the Hon. Prof deign to mention the exchange rate cost advantage cheena implicitly happens to enjoy over all its competitors? And how long cheena can expect such cost advantage to hold? Does the Hon. Prof believe that the rest of the world will continue to generate demand for cheenese products when their own economies are at the brink of severe debt-service and unemployment crises?

Will the Hon. Prof at least wonder as to the state of overcapacity in the Cheenese nation in practically any sector the Hon. Prof cares to name? Overcapacity the likes of which the world has seldom seen. Surely, the Hon. Prof is aware that overcapacity leads to price wars and a steep fall in profitability of every industry and every sector the Hon Prof can care to think of in Cheenese manufacturing? And with such fall in profitability comes the advent of bank loans and the overexpansion of credit that made the overcapacity possible, gointo major defaults and deflate massively?

Am sure the Hon. Prof is right in his thinking and all. Just that names with even greater reputations than that of the Hon Prof in question have been shown to be wrong and misled by the crisis that unfolded last year. Wouldn't put too much faith in mere reputation anymore.

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby NRao » 16 Dec 2009 20:15

IMVVVHO, the Chinese are fudging.

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby putnanja » 17 Dec 2009 05:19

NEW STARS IN THE EAST - Why the Chinese are assertive on the tranquil border - Krishnan Srinivasan

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China as a one-party State is never given any credit by Indians for having, like us, a domestic constituency to placate. Most of China’s actions seen as intimidating by India are actually for the Chinese audience and other countries in Asia. What the Chinese fear most is social unrest; most dynasties were brought down not by invasions but by internal uprisings. Chinese admit to as many as 75,000 large and small social ‘disturbances’ each year, some of which require serious military interventions on the part of central and provincial authority. Tibet and Xinjiang are simmering with discontent and Xinjiang has seen the most violent riots in China in decades put down brutally. Some young Uighurs have indicated to the media that they will seek a better future by escaping to India, like the Tibetans.
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China can provoke India at little diplomatic or military cost, and its low-level intrusions are to keep India off-balance; thus the stapled visas and objection to the village road at Demchok. Beijing’s aim is to shrink India’s strategic frontiers, to stop India breaking out as a potential Asian power, as a warning to others that India cannot be used as a ‘balancer’ against China, to caution the Tibetans not to look to India for succour, and to posit a ‘balkanization’ threat. Its all-weather friend, Pakistan, was first used as a blocking agent, but as that country descends into chaos, more direct methods are needed. China has unsuccessfully opposed the nuclear deal at the Nuclear Suppliers Group and a $60 million loan for Arunachal alias ‘Southern Tibet’ at the Asian Development Bank. It has suggested to the US that it could be the main custodian of Indian Ocean sea-lanes, and opposes expansion of the security council to thwart Japan and India.
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China is India’s biggest trade partner, and has recently offered India a consulate at Lhasa. India is not likely to respond to this offer. It lost bargaining leverage from the very start by giving up its diplomatic mission, three trade marts and managing the communications system in Tibet as “imperialist sequels”, accepting that there were “unequal treaties” in the past and agreeing to the five principles of peaceful coexistence in 1954 without linking any of these to a settlement of the border. Yet Nehru had been informed as early as 1951 about Chinese surveys for the road in Aksai Chin by our trade agent in Gartok.
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India has learned some lessons from the past. It has taken a pragmatic and unemotional view of the relationship, kept calm while asserting its claim line in Ladakh and Arunachal, and does not conceal the dispute behind diplomatic courtesies. It has muffled any war hysteria and the converse — a 1950s-like complacency when it was thought “inconceivable” that China would attack us. It proved helpful to India that Obama postponed his meeting with the Dalai Lama till after Manmohan Singh’s visit. India is making preparations to enhance defence preparedness and to achieve greater strategic balance by more strenuous efforts at cooperation with nations bordering China. Following Oliver Cromwell’s dictum, we should trust in god, but keep our powder dry.

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby sanjaykumar » 17 Dec 2009 05:35

I have every confidence China will follow its all weather friend in a descent into chaos.

With wealth O Arjuna comes the yearning for liberty, with liberty comes independence.

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby Hiten » 17 Dec 2009 15:55

China's Nuclear Power Ambitions
The New York Times today reports that China is ramping up its nuclear power efforts in a big way. It plans to build three times as many nuclear power plants in the next decade as the rest of the world combined. The fear, of course, is that China doesn't take the necessary care to avoid accidents in constructing these plants. While that worry is understandable, the effort shows the nation's foresight{+1000}.

....Yet, I have to believe that China understands just how destructive a nuclear disaster could be for its people, so I find it hard to believe it's taking building these plants lightly. That's probably why, as the Times also reports, the country has asked for international help to train a force of nuclear inspectors......

....I think the U.S. should follow China's lead on this one. :)


NY Times article Nuclear Power Expansion in China Stirs Concerns
This month's ME Magazine has a nice article
Facts & Fission

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby SureshP » 17 Dec 2009 22:46

Its hyped a bit but the trend is real and unstoppable


China rapidly catching up in research impact
December 17, 2009


Data from a recent Thomson Reuters study show that Chinese research output has increased from just over 20,000 papers in 1998 to nearly 112,000 in 2008.

Faculty of 1000, which selects only the top 2% of the biomedical literature, has evaluated more than 530 papers from Chinese universities and institutes since 2001. While only 27 Chinese-authored papers were selected in 2004, this increased by over fourfold in 2008 and is set to be even higher in 2009.

Jane Hunter, Managing Director of Faculty of 1000, says,
"Recent statistics show that China could outstrip the US in terms of academic output in the next decade. Faculty of 1000 is excited to see the depth and quality of research coming out of the country."

Mark Danderson from the China Medical Tribune, a keen supporter of f1000, investigated the scope of Chinese research. He found
the number of PubMed articles by Chinese authors increased by nearly tenfold from 4,891 in 1999 to 46,842 in 2008
in 1999, 190 of these papers focused on human clinical trials; rising to 1264 by 2008
China had proportionally more papers classed as 'Changes clinical practice' in f1000 Medicine than the USA (7.9% vs 6.8%, respectively).
Recent evaluations of papers from China have received high numbers of views on f1000.com and have garnered widespread media attention. A review of The symbolic power of money: reminders of money alter social distress and physical pain by Xinyue Zhou et al. of Sun Yat-Sen University, Guangzhou featured in the Top 10 Most Viewed articles on f1000 Medicine articles in September, and was reported in the Wall Street Journal as well as the UK's Daily Telegraph and Daily Mail.


Professor Sun-Wei Guo, Faculty of 1000 Member for Women's Health and Director of the Institute of Obstetric and Gynecologic Research at Shanghai Jiao-Tong University School of Medicine, said,
"Universities and research institutions in China are increasingly publishing academic papers in English to show the quality of medical research in this country on an international stage."

Zhu Chen of the Samuel Waxman Cancer Research Foundation Laboratory, Shanghai Institute of Hematology, said,
"Faculty of 1000 is an important tool in promoting our institutions' papers and showcasing how much Chinese research is changing clinical practice around the world."

More information: -- The report on China's research output by Thomson Reuters is available at http://researchanalytics.thomsonreuters.com/grr/


http://www.physorg.com/news180269823.html

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby SSridhar » 18 Dec 2009 05:01

Diplomatic, trade ties with China conceivable: Bhutan
. . . but the current priority is to resolve all border issues, said Lyonpo Ugyen Tshering, the Foreign Minister of Bhutan

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby NRao » 18 Dec 2009 06:43

Oh. Someone forgot to tell China that EVERYTHING now a days needs MRV = Measure, Report and Verify. Chicom is spooked about MRV!!!!!! For climate control. The US is insisting on MRV and China cannot stand that - verification. Premier Wen: China's climate action not subject to international monitoring

So much for CTBT, NPT, ETC.

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby Lilo » 18 Dec 2009 16:24

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby Hari Seldon » 18 Dec 2009 16:54



Aren't the JI(P) sarkari ulema anyway? As such, by having PA dog feeding off crumbs at the CPC table, the JI(P) are just fleas on the same dog, no? Or is the import deeper, of using JI(P) as a lever of influence in Central Asia and Xinijinag by the CPC? Or in J&K perhaps?

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby Lilo » 18 Dec 2009 17:14

Hari Seldon wrote:


Aren't the JI(P) sarkari ulema anyway? As such, by having PA dog feeding off crumbs at the CPC table, the JI(P) are just fleas on the same dog, no? Or is the import deeper, of using JI(P) as a lever of influence in Central Asia and Xinijinag by the CPC? Or in J&K perhaps?


JI(P) could be useful for china for shaping paki national opinion on xinijiang but iam not sure on central asia.
w.r.t J&K , J-e-I has always supported the PA position which is same as chinas position.

some digging on google got me this , may be it will make it more clear.
Is China Funding Pakistani Political Parties?


btw the news i posted is old as pointed out to me in another thread.

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby SSridhar » 20 Dec 2009 13:06

The Long Road to Justice
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Land rights and eviction are a problem in China today. Most Chinese have to quietly accept their fate. But Shanghai resident Ma Yalian fought the law. And what began as a fight to save her home led her to take on a far bigger battle.

Every year, tens of thousands of Chinese lose their homes to influential real estate companies. Evicted residents are routinely forced out of their houses with little or no compensation, and often have little recourse to justice. Every year, there are an estimated 90,000 “mass incidents” — officialspeak for protests — reported across China. The majority of them involve land rights issues. Most residents have to quietly accept their fate, intimidated by the influential real estate mafia and befuddled by opaque laws.

The People's Republic of China's judicial system has, since its founding in 1949, always functioned with inherent tensions. The Constitution guarantees human rights, the rule of law and an independent judiciary, as in any liberal democracy. But, given the nature of China's one-party political system, the courts have always functioned within limits firmly set by the ruling Communist Party.

The last decade has seen a slew of significant judicial reforms. Chinese enjoy more legal rights now than they have ever before in the country's history. However, there are limits to reform. Despite progressive changes in Central laws, their enforcement by local governments remains arbitrary at best.

China has a unique redressal system, a legacy from the Qing Dynasty (1644-1911). Citizens can appeal the verdicts of provincial courts — notorious for their willingness to bend Central laws for local interests — by petitioning the Central government. The petition system has in recent years come under strong criticism from lawyers and rights activists, who say it has grown into yet another mechanism which facilitates the silencing of dissenting voices.

Public resentment over land rights, scholars say, remains the single biggest cause of social unrest in China. Every week, local newspapers are littered with stories of aggrieved residents protesting the loss of their homes. Just last month, in Chengdu, Sichuan province, a 47-year-old woman died setting herself ablaze atop her home, in a confrontation with local officials who were set to demolish her house. Her story received widespread national attention and public sympathy. Even the usually staid State-run China Dailynewspaper warned in an editorial that the incident pointed to the increasing sensitivity with which land rights were viewed in China, and the urgent need for ensuring basic property rights.

Nicholas Bequelin, a China scholar at Human Rights Watch, argues that we may have now come close to reaching a point where any further reforms will begin to erode the ruling Communist Party's power. The Party, now more than ever, faces an increasingly tricky tightrope walk. It has to balance its persistent need to ensure its unchallenged political control with satisfying a growing demand from its citizens — a demand for the rule of law.

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby Stan_Savljevic » 20 Dec 2009 13:13

Cambodia deports Uighurs despite criticism
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091220/wl_ ... na_uighurs

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby Avinash R » 20 Dec 2009 18:19

Hundreds protest in Macau on handover anniversary
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 358835.cms

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby Lalmohan » 20 Dec 2009 19:48

Stan_Savljevic wrote:Cambodia deports Uighurs despite criticism
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091220/wl_ ... na_uighurs


the khmer have long been in thrall to the forbidden city to guard against the viet... the emperor's reach is long. even now, 3000 virgins are sent as annual tribute from the far reaches of the realm to serve the royals courts. the more that things change... the more they remain the same.

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby SSridhar » 21 Dec 2009 06:51


That's exactly the scenario we had discussed here when this visa issue surfaced. Exemplary punishment must be given o those who travelled to China on stapled visa. GoI must insert advertisements in newspapers and TV channels about the illegality and the likely punishment awaiting those who travel like this. They should be encouraged to inform GoI if they are issued such visas.

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby csharma » 23 Dec 2009 20:03

Sounds ominous coming from ex-NSA. Politicians will be responsible when India gets the next kick from China.

India cannot trust China: Former NSA

http://news.rediff.com/report/2009/dec/ ... er-nsa.htm

Mishra blamed the country's electoral politics and corruption for the country's weak position. There is a "lack of national security culture amongst politicians," he said.

Weapon procurement takes long time in India, the former NSA said, adding that even if India did place an order for the 126 fighter jets next year as planned, they will be delivered only after 10 years.

However, he said, "It is unlikely that the order will be placed next year and when the aircraft are delivered, they will be outdated."


Mishra conceded that China had "full control" over Asia today, and that India should defend itself through its policies and diplomacy, and should continue to rise economically.


Brigadier (retired) Gurmeet Kanwal, director of the Centre for Land Warfare Studies, said though there was a strategic stability along the India-China border, there was aggressiveness at the tactical level.

Noting that the gap between the capabilities of India and China were growing in favour of "our big neighbour", he opined that it would be better to resolve the border disputes quickly because "China will be capable of dictating terms in 15 years from now".

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby Hari Seldon » 24 Dec 2009 18:04

China Lashes Out at 'Interference'

The lawd knows moi no fan of China. However, am no fan of western states staking high ground and creating drama-bazi. This is a tactic that could next be tried in India for the humanaitarian/just/fair release from prison of the likes of a Binayak Sen, a chatrabar Mahto, a khobad ghandy, an Afzal Guru or a Ajmal Kasab next, who knows?

BEIJING -- China on Thursday accused some diplomats of interfering in its internal affairs because they criticized the detention and trial of a prominent dissident who faces up to 15 years in jail for calling for political reform.
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Accused of subversion, Liu had a two-hour hearing Wednesday. A dozen diplomats, including from the United States, Britain, Germany, Australia and Canada, stood outside the Beijing courthouse in freezing weather after they were barred from entering.

"We call on the government of China to release him immediately," Gregory May, first secretary with the U.S. Embassy, said outside the courthouse. The European Union made a similar appeal.


Yup, I can imagine what havoc a drama like that in front of our Supreme court in Dilli would have. What havoc the likes of ndtv will create by magnifying and broadcasting the tamasha. I shudder at the very thought. We are not yet strong or self-assured enough to show middle ungli to the western types. Not just yet, seems like.
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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby Singha » 24 Dec 2009 18:15

China sentences five to death over riots
Chinese security outside court in Urumqi, Xinjiang. File photo - 12 September 2009
Urumqi has been under heavy security since the July unrest

A court in China's Xinjiang region has sentenced a further five people to death for their role in July's deadly ethnic riots, the worst in decades.

The sentences bring the number of people condemned to die over the riots to a total of 22.


Five more were sentenced to death with a two-year reprieve, a sentence often commuted to life in prison.

Nine people were executed last month over the riots, in which nearly 200 people were killed.

Chinese officials have said most of the victims were members of China's majority Han ethnic group who were attacked by ethnic Uighurs.

Reports suggest that the five sentenced to death were Uighurs - members of a Turkic minority in China that calls Xinjiang their homeland.

Ethnic tensions exploded on 5 July as Uighurs in Urumqi protested over clashes at a factory in southern China that had left two Uighurs dead.

Shops were smashed and vehicles set alight, with passers-by being set upon by Uighur rioters.

Two days later, groups of Han went looking for revenge as police struggled to restore order.

Officials say 197 people were killed and about 1,700 people injured in the rioting.

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby Gagan » 26 Dec 2009 05:44

Xinjiang violence: Views from China
As the situation in Xinjiang calms down, people from across China discuss the cause of the unrest and the impact it might have on social stability in the future.

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby Jarita » 27 Dec 2009 08:18

China has 60% of worlds supply of rare earth minerals

http://www.newsweek.com/id/215544

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby Jarita » 27 Dec 2009 08:28

Nepali PM will visit Lhasa as part of CHina visit

http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=26289

(what the eff is our govt doing other than keeping gaddi warm_)

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby Sanjay M » 29 Dec 2009 09:57

China Executes UK Abdul:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8433285.stm

aka. Abdul Generously Offers to Donate Organs for Pork Fried Rice Menu

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

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China, Britain clash over heroin case execution


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091229/ts_ ... tion_uk_10

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby Gerard » 31 Dec 2009 01:17

China floats idea of first overseas naval base
A senior Chinese naval officer has suggested that China establish a permanent base in the Gulf of Aden to support its anti-piracy operations.

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby NRao » 31 Dec 2009 07:35

Pacific contest grows over rule of waves

“History shows how the maritime balance of power can shift suddenly, re-arranging [the] global order,” he writes. “The political fallout from the disaster ended 75 years of US dominance in the Pacific Ocean and cemented China’s position as the Asian hegemon.”

Defence literature is full of fantasies about imminent battles, and China has always attracted this sort of attention. But for all that, the article does illustrate one of the most important and least observed points about China’s dramatic rise, as well as raising a key question about the coming decade.

During the past 10 years, China has embarked on a rapid modernisation of its armed forces – with the navy at the forefront of its expansion drive. During the next decade, Chinese leaders will start to make important decisions about the country’s navy. These will provide an insight into what sort of global power China hopes to become and whether it really intends to present a challenge to US military dominance.

“In the next three to five years, Chinese Communist party elites probably will make the decisions determining the direction of naval power projection for the next two to three decades,” says Cortez Cooper, an analyst at the US-based Rand Corporation think-tank.

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby SSridhar » 31 Dec 2009 09:18

India-China Trade Talks
India-China trade stands at over $40.6 billion.

India will take up the widening trade deficit to over $20 billion with China when the Commerce Minister, Anand Sharma, visits Beijing on January 19. Mr. Sharma and his Chinese counterpart Chen Dimng will attend the meeting of the Joint Economic Group (JEG) where the issue of the large trade gap would be discussed. The Commerce Ministry had already expressed its concern over the increasing trade gap between India and China. India’s imports from China are over three times its exports to that country, according to the 2008-09 data.

In the JEG meeting, which is being convened after three years, India would also seek access for its fruits and vegetables in the Chinese market, the official said.

China, on its part, is likely to seek market economy status from India and may reiterate its concerns on India resorting to large number of anti-dumping cases against the neighbouring country.

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby abhishek_sharma » 31 Dec 2009 11:28

Obama's suck-up to China isn't working

http://shadow.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/12/30/obamas_suck_up_to_china_isnt_working

The "kick Japan kiss China approach" is indicative of a larger Obama problem: the inability to distinguish friends from rivals. The administration has frozen sales to Taiwan. Reports out of India indicate that the Obama administration "has signaled its intent to abandon elements in its ties with New Delhi that could rile China, including a joint military drill in Arunachal and any further Indo-U.S. naval maneuvers involving Japan or more parties like Australia."

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby SSridhar » 31 Dec 2009 17:26

Do not check-in passengers with stapled Chinese Visa: GoI to Airlines

The instruction, issued late last evening, asks all airlines to "ensure that they do not check-in any passenger with stapled Chinese visa on their passports," official sources said here.

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby Prasad » 01 Jan 2010 05:47

China jails senior Tibetan lama for 8 1/2 years


BEIJING: China has sentenced a respected Tibetan lama to 8 1/2 years in jail for illegal land occupation and ammunition possession, possibly the first senior Buddhist leader tried on serious charges linked to riots in 2008 in the Tibetan capital, a lawyer said on Thursday.

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby KaranR » 01 Jan 2010 15:15

Gerard wrote:China floats idea of first overseas naval base
A senior Chinese naval officer has suggested that China establish a permanent base in the Gulf of Aden to support its anti-piracy operations.




Indian should trust the Chinese! :roll: In the event of conflict with Pakistan or China, how would they use this base?
Another spy location to keep an eye on the Indian navy and pass information to the Pak’s. :twisted:

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby harbans » 01 Jan 2010 18:06

India to overtake China by 2020

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India will overtake China as the fastest-growing economy in the world. China will start ageing and suffering from a declining workforce, and will be forced to revalue its currency.

India will become the largest English-speaking nation in the world, overtaking the US. So, the global publishing industry will shift in a big way to India. Rupert Murdoch's heirs will sell his collapsing media empire to Indian buyers. The New York Times will become a subsidiary of an Indian publishing giant.

In the 2000s, India finally gained entry into the nuclear club, and sanctions against it were lifted. By 2020, Indian companies will be major exporters of nuclear equipment, a vital link in the global supply chain. So, India will be in a position to impose nuclear sanctions on others.

Meanwhile, Iran's mullahs will be overthrown, and a new democratic regime will usher in rapid economic growth that creates a shortage of gas in Iran by 2020. So, the Iran-India pipeline will be recast, but in reverse form: India will now export gas to Iran.

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby Vipul » 01 Jan 2010 19:10

China's shortage of arable land is very serious problem.

Excerpts from the article:

China is now gradually falling victim to the Japan syndrome, and that is clearly worrying. Perhaps the most alarming recent world agricultural event is the precipitous fall in China's grain production since 1998. After an impressive climb from 90 million tonnes in 1950 to a peak of 392 million tonnes in 1998, China's grain harvest fell in four of the last five years, dropping to 322 million tonnes in 2003. For perspective, this decline of 70 million tonnes exceeds the entire grain harvest of Canada.

China is losing grainland to expanding deserts and it is faced with spreading water shortages that are shrinking the grain harvest. China's population of 1.3 billion is impressive, but even more impressive is the fact that 1.193 billion of them live in 46% of the country. The five sprawling provinces of Tibet, Qinghai, Xinjiang, Gansu, and Inner Mongolia, have only 81 million people - just 6% of the national total. Thus industrial and residential construction and the land paved for roads, highways, and parking lots will be concentrated in less than half the country, where 94% of the people live. People are crowded in this region simply because this is where arable land and water are.

If China had Japan's automobile ownership rate of one car for every two people, it would have a fleet of 640 million, a forty-fold increase from the 16 million today. Such a fleet would require paving almost 13 million hectares of land -- again, most of it likely cropland. This figure is equal to two thirds of China's 21 million hectares of riceland -- land that produces 120 million tonnes of rice -- the country's principal staple food.

Several countries whose food requirements are dependent on imports are farming land in other countries. How do you see that working out?
This massive acquisition of land to grow food in other countries is one of the largest geopolitical experiments ever conducted. The land-buying countries are mostly those whose populations have outrun their own land and water resources. Among them are Saudi Arabia, South Korea, China, Kuwait, Libya, India, Egypt, Jordan, the United Arab Emirates, and Qatar. In contrast, countries selling or leasing their land are often low-income countries and, more often than not, those where chronic hunger and malnutrition are commonplace. Some depend on the World Food Programme for part of their food supply.

What about China?
For sheer size of investment, China stands out. The Chinese firm ZTE International has secured rights to 2.8 million hectares (6.9 million acres) in the Democratic Republic of the Congo on which to produce palm oil, which can be used either for cooking or to produce biodiesel fuel--indicating that the competition between food and fuel is also showing up in land acquisitions. This compares with the 1.9 million hectares used by the Congo's 66 million people to produce corn, their food staple. Congo depends on a WFP lifeline. China is also negotiating for 2 million hectares in Zambia on which to produce jatropha, an oilseed-bearing perennial. Among the other countries in which China has acquired land or has plans to do so are Australia, Russia, Brazil, Kazakhstan, Myanmar, and Mozambique.

What are the problems with this trend?
These bilateral land acquisitions raise many questions. To begin with, these negotiations and the agreements they lead to lack transparency. Typically only a few high-ranking officials are involved and the terms are confidential. Not only are many stakeholders such as farmers not at the table when the agreements are negotiated, they do not even learn about the deals until after they have been signed. And since there is rarely idle productive land in the countries where the land is being purchased or leased, the agreements suggest that many local farmers will simply be displaced. Their land may be confiscated or it may be bought from them at a price over which they have little say. This helps explain the public hostility that often arises within host countries.

China, for example, signed an agreement with Philippines to lease over a million hectares of land on which to produce crops that would be shipped home. Once word leaked out, the public outcry forced the government to suspend the agreement. China is also running into on-the-ground opposition over its quest for 2 million hectares in Zambia. This new approach to achieving food security also raises questions about the effects on employment. At least two countries, China and South Korea, are planning in some cases to bring in their own farm workers.

The government of Pakistan, which is trying to sell or lease 400,000 hectares, is offering to provide a security force of 100,000 men to protect the land and assets of investors. Who will these security forces be protecting the invested assets from? :mrgreen: Another disturbing dimension of many land investments is that they are taking place in countries like Indonesia, Brazil, and Congo where expanding cropland typically means clearing tropical rainforests that sequester large quantities of carbon. This could measurably raise global carbon emissions, increasing the climate threat to world food security.

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Defence Secretary to head team to Beijing
As part of annual dialogue, Defence Secretary Pradeep Kumar will leave for Beijing on Tuesday for a meeting with his Chinese counterpart and discussions to carry forward the ties between the two militaries.

The Sino-Indian Defence Dialogue will be held on January 6 and 7. Mr. Kumar will lead a delegation that includes Major-General Munish Sibal from the Eastern Command and officers of the Navy and the Air Force.

“We will be sharing our perception of issues in the region and world while looking at exchange programmes between the personnel of the three services and joint exercises,” a top official in the Ministry told The Hindu.
While New Delhi has maintained that there is no increase in the number of incursions on the Sino-Indian border, the issue is expected to figure during next week’s dialogue.

Recently, during his visit to New Delhi, the PLA Deputy Chief of General Staff, General Ge Zhen Feng, told Defence Minister A.K. Antony that the present generation of political leadership in both countries would solve the border dispute through political negotiations and dialogue.

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Very nice read NRao garu!

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Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009

Postby Jarita » 03 Jan 2010 22:39

Did we miss this
http://www.rapidtrends.com/2009/02/13/r ... rom-china/

Rio Tinto Gets $19.5B Infusion from China
Chinalco investment gives some liquidity breathing room to a company saddled with $39 billion in debt from a prior acquisition.

Stephen Taub – CFO.com | US
February 12, 2009

The Aluminium Corporation of China has agreed to invest $19.5 billion in Rio Tinto, a deal that gives the mining giant desperately needed liquidity and provides China access to a major supply of natural resources.


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