26/11/2008: Never Forget. Never Forgive

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 27 Nov 2010 00:24

Please follow the instruction and give support

1.It is time to show that we have neither forgiven nor forgotten 26/11.
I just light a candle for 26/11.

It is time to show that we have neither forgiven nor forgotten 26/11.
It is time to remember those who paid with their lives for the fanaticism of
a few, to salute those who gave up their lives trying to shield others, and
to honor those who survived the ordeal of terror.
It is time to light a candle, to show that as we move on, we cherish their
memories, we value their sacrifice and we hail their courage.

Please Light a Candle Now at: http://www.indiajaiho.com/LightACandle.htm

ShivaS · Post by **ShivaS** » 27 Nov 2010 03:31

We at BRF are like Buzz Aldrin in toy story (1) infatuated with our Armed Forces and leadership to deliver justice to the TSP terror state sponsored attacks.

Sorry we dont have that leadership anywhere in sight
our armed forces leadership will always caution and council inaction this has happened all too often.

To an extent we have used armed forces to do police work an that's what they are getting better an better. The less we talk about RAW and IB the better

you know how and what our NSA does

that's why I said dreams one day one day some knight in shining armour will come may be Rahul baba and lift us to higher ground

Airavat · Post by **Airavat** » 27 Nov 2010 04:05

Times Now

Maharashtra Government has failed to equip anti-terror elite unit 'Force One'. Only 25 of the 250-member force have bullet-proof jackets and helmets. Even the land allotted to the elite force has been encroached upon.

Discussion on Times Now

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 27 Nov 2010 06:46

CRamS wrote: What makes me quiver in anger is that even after 26/11, terror against India sponsored by a nuke armed TSP is still considered a side show in international circles compared with this bogus, comical Al Queda shit.

Quivering in your dhoti I hope?

CRams - Indians do not have enough self esteem to respect ourselves. We consider our approach to problems as ineffective and we do not see ourselves as strong. This is us as a people. I see these attitudes all over, even on this forum. I have mentioned how promotional literature for doctors to use brands of drugs highlight the import component. On BRF we are scathing of non matching colors or non matching uniforms of our forces and say that they do not hold their guns at the same angle as US marines or Israelis. Others are bad ass. We are shoddy. Our planes take off (only to crash more often than anywhere else on earth). An American plane "tears off the runway". We watch videos of Chinese or Paki aircraft doing tame stuff and lament that we can't get anything to do that. Nothing we do is good, wholesome or uplifting.

We are an abject and miserable people who are in the process of building up an abject and miserable nation while being ready to give away chunks of it, lacking in self esteem and self confidence. It is no wonder that everyone else comes out with flying colors. Others' problems are more important than ours. Others' solutions are more innovative and successful than ours.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 27 Nov 2010 07:07

shiv wrote:
We are an abject and miserable people who are in the process of building up an abject and miserable nation while being ready to give away chunks of it, lacking in self esteem and self confidence. It is no wonder that everyone else comes out with flying colors. Others' problems are more important than ours. Others' solutions are more innovative and successful than ours.

LCA is total failure and is a joke. India is incapable of building anything successful. India is a total waste

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 27 Nov 2010 18:20

Shiv ji : We respect ourselves alright but when some of us are murdered in broad daylight by terrorists and we are asked to light a candle for them and hope it never happens again, How do you think we should react? Image management is as important as everything else and showing cojones is part of Image management.
When we see corruption all around, Leaders trying to kiss US and Chinese @ss, A sense of desperation with Political and Bureaucratic leadership creeps in. The PM does not even open his mouth lest Madam gets annoyed, Madam keeps quite for She knows not what to say.
Even if the rest of the world is failing and miserable, I wish to focus on what is happening in my country. Where is the sense of outrage among the people in power. For some of them, Mumbai incident was one of those things which happen in big cities. Too much Bollywood I guess!
Lament is because this is where India was while outsiders were pillaging during Gauri, Gazni , Tughlak ,Babar and Anglo raids.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 27 Nov 2010 18:58

VikasRaina wrote:Shiv ji : We respect ourselves alright but when some of us are murdered in broad daylight by terrorists and we are asked to light a candle for them and hope it never happens again, How do you think we should react? Image management is as important as everything else and showing cojones is part of Image management.

As a nation showing cojones is not only an alien word it is an alien concept. Barring a few. Showing cojones gets particularly difficult when your own people are continuously accusing you - which is what we do. We are constantly picking on and attacking other Indians with ideas that we think will work and ask why the other Indian is not implementing the bright ideas we get. We "respect ourselves" only as in "I respect me".

There is always some Indian who is mocking and criticizing another Indian no matter what is done. Nothing is ever perfect and although we understand that nothing can be perfect we have to wag our tongues and say why the other person is never perfect. This is a national characteristic and the entire country has to work in this environment.And that is how things are done in India. Some people worry about criticism and are extra cautious - like the LCA design team. Others don't give a flying fuk - like Telgi, Raja, Lalu and the shameless flaunting of Yuvraj and other dynasties.

If you are Indian you are inundated by a barrage of criticism from other Indians - leave alone others. Either you ignore it and do what you want or get blown by the gale in this direction or that because no Indian is ever uniformly happy with anyone or anything.

This is the way Indians work. This is us. If we were different we would be Americans or Pakis or Chinese.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 27 Nov 2010 19:10

How the priorities are set in public life is through such cacophony. Some Indians think the top priority should be X; others think it should be Y; there are opinions rivaling in number the 33 crore devas. And then there is the those who don't agree are unIndian, anti-Indian, sell-out Indians, etc. All normal. On a forum like BRF, simply ignore it.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 27 Nov 2010 20:24

India has been made toothless by the Gandhian politics

1. MK Gandhi and his 20 crores.
2. Morarji Desai and his seditional activity by exposing the RAW humint at Kahuta.
3. IK Gujral stopping all RAW operations in napak land.

Thus we are at this juncture where since 1980 averaging 10+ deadly terrorist attacks yearly., initially limited at Punjab, Kashmir but now all over India from Kashmiro Kanyakumari, Nagaland to Gujarat.

So!! only option is to support Sindhis, Baluchis and Pathans against Pakjabis!! Pakjabis are the scum of the earth., lowest life form with no guts and thus currently they are playing both USA and China against India. Just like their ancestors played Afghanis against Indians to keep their control in Punjab.

The problem is that India is being led by Grand old people who are ruling from their own funeral pyre (75+). All we need is a gutsy leader who take up to Pakjabis (who are trying to masquerade as a bully).

Pakistan that is stable is bad for India (thorn in its side). Pakistan that does not exists is best for the world.

ShivaS · Post by **ShivaS** » 27 Nov 2010 20:25

What Indian?, there is nothing called Indian, those who were Indian were decimated by Spanish and Americans.
The Resi(dent) Dual Indians are now converted to Italian Paganism where one and only one godess has enchanted the Congress Wallahs Aradia, (Italian witch goddess. She came to earth to teach her mother Diana's magic. Symbolizes the air element, the moon and money of late) The Congresswallahs are such pious worshippers of this another Godess Fortuna (Italian goddess of fortune, fate, destiny, blessings, luck, and fertility. Often invoked when one wants to receive money by chance, like in a lottery or contest. ), That they forgot the last of The Indian called Mahatma Gandhi, whose statues will pillaged soon like those of Saddam....

Long live the pagans and Warrior legions of Kalamdi, Randia, Brouhaha Dutt, Coward Sanghvi (vir chakara) Prabhu Chawalwallah who is actually a gulaam, Arun Kaam Poori, et al

Cry my beloved ....

JwalaMukhi · Post by **JwalaMukhi** » 27 Nov 2010 21:12

^ Martin Luther King was inspired by our M.K.Gandhi, maybe it is time for us to borrow from MLKing.
There are bunch of "house negroes" trying to lord over a whole lot of "field negroes". The emancipation is generally thought of as through the house route. Cry my beloved...

Mauli · Post by **Mauli** » 27 Nov 2010 22:00

^^

The Kshatriya dharma is first and foremost to protect the people, to fight against
internal and external conflict, to ensure a just and resolute society in order that the other
Varnas are free to create without fear.If the Kshatriya does not follow his true law, the
nation is at risk to all sorts of disaster and misery.This is why if the Kshatriya deemed
the use of violence necessary in order to protect the people, then it was used, whether in
response to provocation or not.

It was this right arm of the Kshatriya that Gandhi abhorred.Believing that the user of
violence invariably met his death by violence, Gandhi proposed a different route.In it,
the fighter of injustice, the Kshatriya, was not to lay a finger on the proponent of
adharma.Instead, the Kshatriya was to willfully allow himself to be attacked by the
enemy, accepting death without a fight, while the other party was spared.This was
Gandhi’s famous Satyagraha:

The Kshatriya, while having no fear of death, was supposed to value life –
his own and that of the people he was protecting.For if the Kshatriya put himself
submissively in the way of harm, who was to protect the masses in the aftermath?It was
this truth Gandhi ignored, refusing to acknowledge the great responsibility he held.For
despite the common view of him as the austere Saint living in an Ashram, Gandhi was
heavily involved in Kshatriya activities, having spent the majority of his life as either the
leader (official or de-facto) of both the Congress Party in India and the South African
Indian Congress.As a Kshatriya, it should have been his svadharma, his natural law, to
protect the lives of his people, instead of telling them to lay down their lives in a bizarre
idea of ‘self-defense”

The true Kshatriya would not put his hopes in a miraculous change of heart by an enemy
that knew the Kshatriya did not believe in fighting.In such an instance, the aggressor
would achieve his objective due to the foolishness of the ahimsa-following Kshatriya.
The true Kshatriya knew that counter-violence in such a case of direct confrontation was
necessary, because without it, a steeled heart and strong determination could have no
external result.The Kshatriya fought back because it was the law of his being to protect
the nation from suffering, to not expose his nation or himself to it.Indeed, not only
would the Kshatriya fight back in such circumstances, he would also be inclined to take
the war into the enemy’s home, to strike at their heart.A Kshatriya did not restrict
himself to one tactic such as ahimsa in the face of battle.In fact, ahimsa or mute self-
sacrifice in battle has never been anywhere close to a significant war strategy or tactic.
Meeting the enemy in battle, negotiating with the enemy (yet trying to achieve the best
possible terms for his nation), setting up defensive barriers, allying with enemies of the
enemy, were among the many tactics used by the Kshatriya.Ahimsa never crossed the
mind of the true Kshatriya because ahimsa was never considered part of the Kshatriya
dharma.It was a virtue of the Brahmana.

The Brahmana dharma was not actively involved in the protection of the nation through
physical means.It was not their dharma.For this reason, they were free to practice
ahimsa, non-violence or more appropriately, non-maliciousness.Their contribution to
the defense of the nation was through religious and intellectual activity, education, direct
guidance of the Kshatriya, or through occult or mystic avenues.In the occasions that the
Brahmana gave consistent guidance to the Kshatriya, it was rarely coming from a realized
Yogi, let alone a Sadhaka.This is especially true in modern politics which is replete with
forces hostile to the aspirations of the seeker, who in turn will likely avoid that field.
And if the Brahmana did advise the Kshatriya, he was wise to the distinctions between
the law of the Brahmana and the law of the Kshatriya – he did not force his law upon
someone else.

Ahimsa, a virtue of a section of Brahmanas, the Sannyasi, was undertaken to help move
the Sannyasi from rajasic (characterized by action, passion) impulses into a sattvic
(characterized by peace, harmony) state of mind, in order to make it easier for the
Sannyasi to obtain his individual spiritual aspiration.A strict following of ahimsa,
therefore, was not even meant for all Brahmanas; it was indicated for the individual who
aspired for liberation.It was also meant for those with the inherent will to practice it.It
was not supposed to be the mass movement Gandhi desired:

Ahimsa, unlike svadharma, was never ‘a way of life’ that all of India followed; it was a
means to an end for the spiritual seeker just as brahmacharya was.This abstaining from
violence, along with vegetarianism, celibacy, humility, elimination of intake of
intoxicants, and many other practices, was used by the Sannyasi to obtain a Sattvic state.
From this evolved mentality, the foundation was set for spiritual realization.These
practices were not done simply to become a person of high morals; they were done with
the penultimate purpose in mind.

Ahimsa and its role in Indian society was not the only exaggeration Gandhi placed on
certain aspects of Hindu religion and Hindu history.Gandhi took his view of ahimsa to
such an extreme that he claimed Hinduism itself had never permitted the use of violence.

To understand how Gandhi mistakenly took his ahimsa to be an act of love in accordance
with the Kshatriya dharma, we only need remember Shri Krishna’s words to follow ones
dharma.If Gandhi had a few tendencies that were harmonious with the Kshatriya
dharma, such as his willingness to support a cause he considered worthy, his obsession
with turning ahimsa into a Kshatriya trait was what made his actions adharmic.The
obscure impetus behind Gandhi’s fetish of ahimsa was well intentioned - that of bringing
spirituality into politics.However, making politicians and soldiers28 practice ahimsa or
even the spinning of cloth was not the way to spiritualize the Kshatriya varna. The
method of spiritualizing politics had already been revealed in the Gita in the path of
Karmayoga.In order to spiritualize politics and warfare, both being professions of high
activity, the surrender to God of both the fruit of the labor and the actual process of the
labor is the first step for the individual. For national polity, the Kshatriya’s aims of
upholding dharma and stamping out injustice internally or externally driven, can be
spiritualized by facilitating the national expression of the highest Truth, the Absolute, the
Divine, something far more luminous than the petty (in relation) and ego-dependent
moral or ethical truths of Gandhi.
In trying to spiritualize politics, Gandhi only succeeded in confusing the efforts of the
political and military classes of his and subsequent times, hindering their actions,
preventing them from fully acting according to their dharma, consequently impeding their
life-force and Will through his moral positions and fasts of blackmail.In trying to bring
the Brahmana principles into the Kshatriya varna, Gandhi would make declarations of the
most shocking variety, not befitting of one considered the Father of the Nation, nor one
granted the title of Mahatma.

Clearly there is nothing wrong with gentleness and toleration in proper relation to the
whole, except the same argument can be made about aggression, that there is nothing
inherently wrong with it as long as it is harmonious with other qualities a nation needs.
The argument against aggression is a mere opinion from minds such as Gandhi that
naturally quiver from it because it doesn’t suit their nature. People born with this sort of
nature would best remain in their field of social activism, or altogether avoid activities
meant for the Kshatriya, whose inner law, whose dharma demands he defend his nation.
Fortunately for India, there have always been enough men in India with the will to
champion the Kshatriya dharma, even when serving an enfeebled political class.
Unfortunately, these Kshatriyas, who have sacrificed far more than the decadent scions of
political dynasties, remain beholden to those incapable of securing lasting protection to
India.The likes of imitative statesmen at play with words while India’s neighbors East
and West silently plot, tentative chieftains who prevent the Kshatriya from carrying out
the destiny of his birth, capricious legislators vacillating from one peripheral aim to the
next, and duplicitous intellectuals who obfuscate the actual intentions of the adversary,
continue to grow bloated on the spoils of their positions as the enemy creeps nearer to its
goal of murdering the past and the future.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/29991057/Viol ... iya-Dharma

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 28 Nov 2010 01:09

Mauli wrote:
In trying to spiritualize politics, Gandhi only succeeded in confusing the efforts of the
political and military classes of his and subsequent times, hindering their actions,
preventing them from fully acting according to their dharma, consequently impeding their
life-force and Will through his moral positions and fasts of blackmail.In trying to bring
the Brahmana principles into the Kshatriya varna, Gandhi would make declarations of the
most shocking variety, not befitting of one considered the Father of the Nation, nor one
granted the title of Mahatma.

MKG actually approved of military action in Kashmir in 1947 to get back Kashmir free from the invaders.
He followed practical actions for needs of the time.

But others took his message wrongly and Gandhi propaganda reached too much inside the INC and inside India that one generation actually forgot practical statecraft in trying to emulate an ideology.
Statecraft got confused with ideology and social moral authority.

http://www.dawn.com/2010/11/27/pakistan ... shi-2.html
Pakistan wants to see Mumbai culprits punished: FM

negi · Post by **negi** » 28 Nov 2010 12:26

Anshul Chaturvedi as incisive as always.

Forget Pakistan, nobody’s paid for 26/11 in India

RR Patil, the Home Minister of Maharashtra, who probably lost his job primarily over his callous perception that “Bade bade shaheron mein, aisi chhoti chhoti baatein hoti rehti hai,” who perhaps had an even more direct responsibility than the CM for the quantum of security failures, is, well, exactly where he was. He is back as the Home Minister of Maharashtra – and in the supreme irony, when he recently visited Arthur Road jail to find out if the facilities provided to inmates were good enough, he took out time to have a tete-a-tete with the most famous inmate there, one Ajmal Amir Kasab. It is his job, after all, to ensure that prisoners are treated well, is it not?

A couple of months back, his partymen went about frantically doing damage control exercises after a TV channel ran video recordings of Patil in illustrious company at an iftar party. The gentlemen he was chatting with included criminals such as Salim Patel alias Salim Goa Gutka, known to be a key aide of Dawood, blacklisted builder Irfan Qureshi and murder suspect Mobin Qureshi. The State NCP president at that point defended his party’s star by telling the media, “Political leaders often, at the invitation of a party leader or activist, attend iftar parties or other functions. They have no idea of the guests list.”

Yeah, right. And we have no idea what Patil is doing in this role.

We created the NIA shortly after 26/11. It was supposed to be our equivalent of the FBI, our premier trans-India anti terror agency. Either it has been doing its work in a remarkably low profile manner, or it has not quite taken over the mantle of leading the battle against activities of national magnitude. Your guess is as good as mine. We also had a panel set up to probe the lapses that led to 26/11. The Pradhan panel’s report is “classified”. Which means you, me, or anyone who isn’t privileged enough to be in the corridors of power can’t see what it is. And if you thought that meant that at least those responsible for stopping a recurrence of that day are clued in, think again. One of the two members of the panel, ex-IPS officer V Balachandran, recently said that he was “quite shocked when senior police officers from Maharashtra came and told me that they've not even seen the report.” He went on to ask, “What is the use of spending money over a committee on a report which you don't read at all?”

Airavat · Post by **Airavat** » 29 Nov 2010 07:43

Family members of 26/11 Mumbai terror attack martyrs paying tributes to the then Joint Commissioner of Mumbai Police, Hemant Karkare at Sarva Dharam prayers venue in Jammu on Sunday.—Excelsior/Rakesh

Hang Kasab in public

A total of 65 kith and kin of those soldiers, who attained martyrdom in 26/11 attacks, arrived here to take part in the Sarva Dharam Yagya for peace to the soul of martyrs. They were seen sharing their grief and agony with the kith and kin of martyrs from Jammu and Kashmir.

Kavita Karkare, wife of Joint Commissioner of Mumbai Police, Hemant Karkare, expressed dissatisfaction over the pace of investigation into 26/11 attacks and trial of the Pakistani national Mohd Ajmal Kasab. "Justice delayed is justice denied", she remarked and demanded that Kasab should be hanged, that too publicly, so that it could act as deterrent for other perpetrators of violence.

"The rehabilitation policy for the militants, who had gone for arms training in Pakistan-occupied-Kashmir (PoK) and Pakistan, is sheer disrespect to the martyrs", remarked Kanchan, wife of Havildar Rajinder Singh of Billawar, who attained martyrdom during Kargil war, while interacting with some media persons at Sarva Dharam Yagya organized for peace to the souls of martyrs.

"These are the persons, who with the help of their masters across the borders, had started war in the Kargil and are still planning and getting terror attacks carried out in different parts of the country", she said and wondered how Government could be so sympathetic towards perpetrators of the terror.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 01 Dec 2010 13:36

http://www.in.com/setkasabfree/

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 22 Jan 2011 03:37

From: The Philadelphia Enquirer: Mumbai's American dead continue to go unavenged

Two years later, despite clear evidence that the attack was carried out by the Pakistani terrorist group Lashkar-e-Taiba with the direct encouragement of Pakistan's intelligence agency, the United States has yet to press effectively for punishment of those responsible.

The evidence of the complicity of Islamabad's Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI, has been clearly established by the FBI through its interrogation of a Pakistani American, Daood Gilani, who pleaded guilty in federal court to playing a key role in Mumbai. The case against Gilani, who used the name David Headley and spent part of his youth in Philadelphia, was spelled out in an exhaustive Washington Post-Pro Publica investigative report in November, which traced Headley's links to the ISI. The report identified his ISI controller as a "Major Iqbal" who operated through Sajid Mir of Lashkar-e-Taiba.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 24 Jan 2011 05:18

Mumbai police silent on Headley's role in 26/11 attacks

If Mumbai Police is to be believed, American-born terrorist David Headley, who has confessed to conducting a recce of all 26/11 targets in the city, may have played no role in the carnage. The assessment by the Mumbai Police is reflected in its appeal before the Bombay High Court in which its elite Crime Branch is silent on the role of the Pakistan-origin LeT terrorist while contesting the acquittal of Fahim Ansari and Sabahuddin in the November 26, 2008 attack that left 166 people dead.

While the Ministry of Home Affairs burnt midnight oil over getting access to Headley after his role in the brazen attack emerged, the focus of Mumbai Police through its Special Public Prosecutor Ujjwal D Nikam was that the terrorists intruded into the country's financial capital with the help of hand-written maps drawn by Ansari.

A response was also sought from Joint Commissioner of Mumbai's Crime Branch Himanshu Roy to comment on role played by Headley in 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks. However, there was no immediate response from him.

Bhaskar · Post by **Bhaskar** » 24 Jan 2011 05:32

VinodTK wrote:From: The Philadelphia Enquirer: Mumbai's American dead continue to go unavenged

Two years later, despite clear evidence that the attack was carried out by the Pakistani terrorist group Lashkar-e-Taiba with the direct encouragement of Pakistan's intelligence agency, the United States has yet to press effectively for punishment of those responsible.

The evidence of the complicity of Islamabad's Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI, has been clearly established by the FBI through its interrogation of a Pakistani American, Daood Gilani, who pleaded guilty in federal court to playing a key role in Mumbai. The case against Gilani, who used the name David Headley and spent part of his youth in Philadelphia, was spelled out in an exhaustive Washington Post-Pro Publica investigative report in November, which traced Headley's links to the ISI. The report identified his ISI controller as a "Major Iqbal" who operated through Sajid Mir of Lashkar-e-Taiba.

Funny how it is from the Philadelphia Inquirer. Secularist Indian media will never have the balls to publish something like this.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 24 Jan 2011 05:57

Bhaskar wrote: Funny how it is from the Philadelphia Inquirer. Secularist Indian media will never have the balls to publish something like this.

The US is superior to India on all counts.

Bhaskar · Post by **Bhaskar** » 24 Jan 2011 11:55

shiv wrote:
Bhaskar wrote: Funny how it is from the Philadelphia Inquirer. Secularist Indian media will never have the balls to publish something like this.

The US is superior to India on all counts.

They invaded two countries on the other side of the planet which had very vague connections to the attacks in their soil.
We cant even put on a stern reply back to a nation which has repeatedly funded to destabilize our country and to kill our citizens. Shame on us. Either if it was BJP during the parliament attacks or the weak MMS govt after 26/11. Our government is too scared to fight for our Personal security and safety. Truth is ... We are inferior. Our leaders have shamed us all.
I still fail to understand why there was no military response after the 26/11 attacks, even after establishing clear links to the ISI and convincing the world community Of ISI's roll in the attacks. Even Obama supported that India had the right to do what it felt was best for it's safety.
MMS felt making pointless dossiers was going to make sure nothing like his would happen again.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 08 Apr 2011 02:41

Wounds of 26/11 have not healed: Nirupama Rao

Though it has re-engaged with Pakistan on a wide range of issues that need to be addressed, India has said the wounds of Mumbai terror attack have not healed as yet and stressed on Islamabad taking with “utmost seriousness” its request for voice samples of the 26/11 accused.

Yes and no. I think my answer would bridge both these concepts. The wounds of 26/11 have not healed as yet. I think we would do wrong to the people who lost their lives and the families that continue to grieve as a result of what happened so tragically in Mumbai, if we were to say that 26/11 is behind us,” Foreign Secretary Nirupama Rao said.

Obviously, the wounds of 26/11 will not heal easily. I think there is sentiment in this country in India and there is grief still which has not died. Let me put it this way. Our grief cannot die when it comes to 26/11,” she told Karan Thapar in an interview for CNBC. “The yes side is that.... we have to engage with each other across a wide range of issues that need to be addressed,” Ms. Rao said.

very clearly saying we will continue to engage with TSP without forgetting 26/11.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 14 Apr 2011 08:43

NO CRICKET WITH PAKISTAN

WHY SHOULD INDIAN SPORTSMEN RESCUE PAKISTAN'S REPUTATION?

i can never forgive this

http://www.youtube.com/cybersurg#p/u/30/QehgTIOmkmQ

Ramin · Post by **Ramin** » 15 Apr 2011 02:21

krisna wrote:Mumbai police silent on Headley's role in 26/11 attacks
If Mumbai Police is to be believed, American-born terrorist David Headley, who has confessed to conducting a recce of all 26/11 targets in the city, may have played no role in the carnage. The assessment by the Mumbai Police is reflected in its appeal before the Bombay High Court in which its elite Crime Branch is silent on the role of the Pakistan-origin LeT terrorist while contesting the acquittal of Fahim Ansari and Sabahuddin in the November 26, 2008 attack that left 166 people dead.

While the Ministry of Home Affairs burnt midnight oil over getting access to Headley after his role in the brazen attack emerged, the focus of Mumbai Police through its Special Public Prosecutor Ujjwal D Nikam was that the terrorists intruded into the country's financial capital with the help of hand-written maps drawn by Ansari.

A response was also sought from Joint Commissioner of Mumbai's Crime Branch Himanshu Roy to comment on role played by Headley in 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks. However, there was no immediate response from him.

most troubling indeed; with allies whose intel agencies produce informants who go rogue --who needs enemies?

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 15 Apr 2011 02:52

On a recent re-entry into USA; the immigration officer started chit-chatting with us on seeing our Indian passport. He inquired about the Mumbai blasts and wanted to know if the culprits were caught. We replied that one of them was caught. With a pained and puzzled look he asked "just one of them?". SHQ added the rest were killed. He visibly turned happy and said "good".

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 15 Apr 2011 03:01

Krishna, The Mumbai police case against the accused is a stand alone. it does not need DCH or any other things. So no need to comment on that. However the reporter is welcome to make is idotic comments which have o leagal bearing. Bringn in DCh now muddies the case.

Shankas · Post by **Shankas** » 15 Apr 2011 06:29

Its time India gets a PM from the South. Where they really don't have any connection with Pakjabis, thus there will be no Puppi Jhappi sessions. In the South TSP is remembered for 1971, Kargil and 26/11. Someone like Amma will do wonders to our collective psyche.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 15 Apr 2011 06:57

Shankas wrote:Its time India gets a PM from the South. Where they really don't have any connection with Pakjabis, thus there will be no Puppi Jhappi sessions. In the South TSP is remembered for 1971, Kargil and 26/11. Someone like Amma will do wonders to our collective psyche.

Don't be so sure about that. Just listen to the statement of power and fury coming from SM Krishna.

"<whine..mumble..fumble..) er aaah. we will er < cough cough >confront Pakistan with what Rana said, I apologise for using strong words like "confront""

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 15 Apr 2011 15:46

^^^ Exactly...

Guys, please let's not delude ourselves... This sort of knee-quaking has nothing to do with north or south, although it may be tempting to conclude so. DO NOT mistake the "pappi-jhappi" whatever that emerges from time to time. Ultimately, the hardest lines will come from the same place on our side (and theirs). Especially the next generations.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 10 Oct 2011 15:39

SC stays Kasab's death sentence, says he deserves to be heard

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 10 Oct 2011 20:25

Don't give me death, I was brainwashed like a robot: Kasab

NEW DELHI: Pakistani terrorist Ajmal Kasab facing death penalty for the 2008 Mumbai terror attack claimed in the Supreme Court he was brainwashed like a "robot" into committing the heinous crime in the name of "God" and that he does not deserve capital punishment owing to his young age.

What a disingenuous way of defending himself. I this argument is accepted then every Paki pig can come kill and plead same defense. The sooner he is hanged along with AG the better.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 26 Nov 2011 07:53

Airavat wrote:26/11 recalled

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 26 Nov 2011 07:54

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QehgTIOmkmQ

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 26 Nov 2011 07:58

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-new ... 74063.aspx

The attacks could have been prevented had the US authorities been forthcoming with the details they had about terrorist David Coleman Headley, who is being tried in a Chicago court, Pillai said in an interview.

For instance, Headley's bank details would have revealed whether his financiers were the Lashkar-e-Taiba, the ISI or some American agency, the former senior bureaucrat said.

"So they (Americans) were partially fair to us, not fully," Pillai said.

Headley visited India and Mumbai several times before the strikes and collected information for the Lashkar. His role is considered significant in planning of the attack that left 166 people dead.

"It's quite possible we can (prevent such attacks) provided we are lucky - if the opponent makes some mistake or we catch some intercepts or communication."

As regards Pakistan's complaint that India gave "information but no evidence", Pillai said: "I think we have given enough evidence ... They know the people involved. Since it is their own people, they do not want to take action. For example, the voice samples of the Pakistan handlers who were in touch with the terrorists are available."

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 26 Nov 2011 08:14

Mumbai Remembered. RIP to victims.
Perpetrators are still out in Pakistan. No rest till we get them. The crime needs a closure and not a " just move on with life".

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 26 Nov 2011 10:05

A message on Facebook! With a picture of Tukaram Omble. A true martyr

Do you know who this guy is? No idea??

Ok, let me introduce him..

This is Mr.Tukarama Omble..

Still you do not know him??

hmmm..

Hope you all know "Ajmal Kasab"?

Good.. How popular Ajmal is.. but only a few know about Tukarama Omble.. Let me give you some more details..
"On the day terrorists attacked Mumbai, ASI Tukaram Omble, 48, was on the night duty. At 12.30 am on 27 November he had called his family and spoken to them.
Omble's senior told him to take up position on Marine Drive on Wednesday night, after the news of firings at Leopold Cafe, Oberoi and Taj Hotels came in. Around 12.45 am, he got an alert on his walkie-talkie that two terrorists had hijacked a Skoda car and were heading for Girgaum Chowpatty. Just minutes later, the Skoda whizzed past him.
Omble jumped on to his motorcycle and chased the car. A team from DB Marg police station was setting up a barricade at the chowpatty signal. As the car approached the signal, the terrorists opened fire on the police, but had to reduce speed because of the barricades. Omble overtook the Skoda and stopped in front of it, forcing the driver of the car to swerve right and hit the divider. With the terrorists momentarily distracted, Omble sprang toward one of them, Ajmal Kasab, and gripped the barrel of the AK47 rifle with both hands. With the barrel pointing towards Omble, Kasab pulled the trigger, hitting Omble in the abdomen. Omble collapsed, but held on to the gun till he lost consciousness, which likely stopped Kasab from shooting others."

Now you got him, right?? He was the Lionheart who sacrificed himself to save many lives and surrender Kasab alive..
Do you know where his family is? Do you know what his family does?
No body wants to know that!!
Just try to compare what Govt. spend for Omble's family and what govt. spends for the mighty terrorist Kasab..

Shouldn't we feel ashamed??

Omble should be awarded the posthumous Bharat Ratna and his name to be etched in golden letters for future generations who may know that it does not take someone big to do a great thing for the nation as Omble clearly did.

Share it. This is the least you can do as a respect to this braveheart !!!

None of these heroes have been avenged....or even given due respect. Shameful!

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 26 Nov 2011 10:14

Three years after 26/11, we’re still waiting for a closure

More true then people imagine, the woulds of all the terror attacks since 93 onwards are unhealed, as not one of the serious attacks have been solved.

PratikDas · Post by **PratikDas** » 26 Nov 2011 10:48

Cybersurg, I thank you for two videos that needed making.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 26 Nov 2011 12:56

25 despatched to meet their 72s by NATO helicopters.Porkistan echandee in tatters.I am savouring the moment.

Is it Divine Justice?

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 26 Nov 2011 13:16

Why do we need this? and why does an Indian official have to make a statement about this on Nov 25?

Liberal visa regime for India, Pakistan business travel soon

NEW DELHI: India and Pakistan are expected to liberalise visa rules for business travel soon and a " broad agreement" has been reached between the two countries, a senior government official said on Friday.